Re: 6-foot Sea-level Rise Called Inevitable
bon-o
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> Horry Hope wrote:
>
>>"6-foot Sea-level Rise Called Inevitable
>
>>The world warmed by about 0.7 degrees Celsius
>>(1.26 Fahrenheit) over
>>the past century, and most scientists expect it
>>will rise another
>>degree or two in the next century. "
>
>
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Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
You should sever your ties with the Universities backed insanity
called Fraudulent Geology aka Gogology .... it will destroy you &
millions others in the short term !
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Founder of the True Geology
kangarooistan
<australia.mining-pion...@neuf.fr> wrote:
> On Oct 9, 5:20 am, "bon-o" <y...@x.com> wrote:
>
> You should sever your ties with the Universities backed insanity
> called Fraudulent Geology aka Gogology .... it will destroy you &
> millions others in the short term !
>
> Australia Mining Pioneer
> Founder of the True Geology
Anybody who can read knows that NOTHING can now stop a 6 meter sea
level rise at any time the ice sheets slide into the oceans off
Antarctica or Greenland
several times 6 meters are almost guaranteed thus century
Those who choose to ignore the evidence will pay for their ignorance
mother Nature and GOD has warned EVERYBODY loud and clear
those who choose to drown their babies can not blame anybody but
themselves
kanga
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•• When you write "the ice sheets slide into the
oceans off Antarctica" it is proof positive of
your ignorance.
Spring will soon be coming to Antarctica. The
ice sheets are floating on the sea and in a few
months th e outer parts will break off from the
mass and float away. The bits breaking off have
zero effect on the sea levels because the ice
displaces water equivalent to its weight.
•• Get a life, fool
– –
Either way short term or long term the data
doesn't support man made global warming?
short term
http://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/RSSglobe.html
long term
http://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Moberg2005.html
kangarooistan
PLEASE , Go back to school mate
ice sheets cover the entire aprox 14 million sq km
Ice shelves cover the sea around Antarctica, they come and go and dont
alter sea levels
When the next earth quake hits Antarctica , the ice sheets slide
faster and faster as water under the ice is lubricating them , try
sliding a block of ice on dry then wet concrete to see the massive
difference a tiny film of liquid water makes to the dynamics
next big quake near Lake Vostok will send vast ice sheets sliding into
the sea
Sea levels WILL rise many many meters in minutes
PLEASE educate yourself mate
Ignorance can be cured , even you might still be able to save YOUR
babies mate
kanga
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Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
> •• When you write "the ice sheets slide into the
> oceans off Antarctica" it is proof positive of
> your ignorance.
>
> Spring will soon be coming to Antarctica. The
> ice sheets are floating on the sea and in a few
> months th e outer parts will break off from the
> mass and float away. The bits breaking off have
> zero effect on the sea levels because the ice
> displaces water equivalent to its weight.
>
> •• Get a life, fool
Mr Kanga is correct since as well as you, is aware the pack ice
melting does add very little to the seas level ( only that part above
the water line) .
...he is correctly making reference to the Inlandsis, and his
assertions are further backed by the recent observations of strong
underwater activities both in the North & South.
Once the ice-floe is attacked from underneath, the inland Glaciers
have not buffers to keep them in place and slide to the sea at faster
pace. This is the case of the ominous Pine Island Glacier, one of the
greatest recorded.
Now contrarily to what you probably assume*, the swarm of killer
Quakes in the Pacific let anticipate the awakening of major Volcanoes
in the Antarctica, and there are quite a few large ones surveyed.
The drama would be that such non recorded one or ones, under the 3000
m ice sheet, becomes active.
In that case you will find the estimates of Mr Kanga, as well as mine,
quite optimistic
* Stability of Earth on Ecliptic on the said Geology Time Column
( which is false incidentally)
With best regards
jpturcaud
kangarooistan
You are INDEED right Sir JPT
Your timing may be out, but the EVIDENCE is sitting there for ALL to
see , your assessment is 100% correct , its ONLY a question f timing
until the NEXT big Quake in Antarctica , once the ice sheets STAR
moving nothing will stop them
Ignorance is now optional
Those to care about their babies lives will LIVE , those who dont care
WILL be culled
The next big antarctic Quake Will see massive Tsunami hit the south
facing continents and sea levels world wide WILL rise by MANY MANY
MANY MANY meters
a max of 67 meters if it ALL melts , but it will probably be less than
that IMHO
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
Dear Mr Kanga,,
We are both optimistic indeed.
...and I am sorry to say, that for unknown reason, I am trying to save
that remorseless & ungrateful Antipodean sheeple !
Go figure !!!
Here is down below one of my last warning... I can do no more since
being barred for life from the land I loved best once
***********************
Yep !
Tomorrow night you must be up in the hills !
You will have plenty of time to thank me after that, just the same way
that you have thanked me for the Discoveries of the Great Sandy Desert
Mines, and I look forward to your noted ingratitude & lack of
recognition to services rendered !
Quite used to it !
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold Mine)
Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Founder of the True Geology
~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~
for background info.
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm
"True Geology" Foundation Document
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/69327
"Turcaud Bath" as a free gift to Suffering Humanity
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/107947
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> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:11:53 -0700, Bob Eld wrote :
>
> >> and most scientists expect it will rise another degree or two in the
> >> next century.
>
> > snip....
>
> > Wrong! It's not what they can prove that counts, it's what is actually
> > happening that counts. Now, you can open your eyes and see what is
> > actually happening if you choose or you can keep your head up your butt
> > and ignore reality.
>
> So let's have a look at reality from a world top level expert:
>
> http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2007/2007_20-29/2007-25/
> pdf/33-37_725.pdf
>
> Interview: Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner : Claim That Sea Level Is
> Rising Is a Total Fraud.
>
> Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner is the head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics
> department at Stockholm University in Sweden. He is past president
> (1999-2003) of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal
> Evolution, and leader of the Maldives Sea Level Project. Dr. Mörner has
> been studying the sea level and its effects on coastal areas for
> some 35 years.
>
> Excerpts :
> You have Vanuatu, and also in the Pacific, north of New Zealand and Fiji—
> there is the island Tegua. They said they had to evacuate it, because the
> sea level was rising. But again, you look at the tide-gauge record: There
> is absolutely no signal that the sea level is rising. If anything, you
> could say that maybe the tide is lowering a little bit, but absolutely no
> rising.
>
> If you go around the globe, you find no rise anywhere.
>
> So, for example, those people in the IPCC choose Hong Kong, which has six
> tide gauges, and they choose the record of one, which gives 2.3 mm per
> year rise of sea level. Every geologist knows that that is a subsiding
> area. It's the compaction of sediment; it is the only record which you
> shouldn't use.
> ... Not even ignorance could be responsible for a thing like that. ...
•• One error in your post: Dr. Mörner has retired
from Paleogeophysics and Geodynamic dept.
at Stockholm University in Sweden
Leonard
On 10/11/09 6:38 PM, in article
91613c9b-19ef-4d47...@m3g2000pri.googlegroups.com,
"kangarooistan" <kangaro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 9, 1:31�pm, Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
> <australia.mining-pion...@neuf.fr> wrote:
>> On Oct 9, 5:20�am, "bon-o" <y...@x.com> wrote:
>>
>> You should sever your ties with the Universities backed insanity
>> called Fraudulent Geology aka Gogology .... it will destroy you &
>> millions others in the short term !
>>
> Hi Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
>> Australia Mining Pioneer
>> Founder of the True Geology
>
> Anybody who can read knows that NOTHING can now stop a 6 meter sea
> level rise at any time the ice sheets slide into the oceans off
> Antarctica or Greenland
>
> several times 6 meters are almost guaranteed thus century
** ROTFLMAO
It just is not happening and will not happen for
100,000 years. Of course, then there will be a
whole lot more ice.
** In the fall of 1988 a journalist interviewed
James Hansen, who pontificated that NYC
would be flooded in 20 years. Two weeks
ago, the same journalist asked Hansen why
the sea levels have neither risen nor fallen,
he feebly said "well maybe in another 29
or 30 years." Then he went off in a long
and stupid gloom and doom scenario
suitable for a dungeons and dragons game.
If you believe that guy, I would recommend
you see your mental heath professional
right away.
� �
. In real science the burden of proof is always
. on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
. neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
. iota of valid data for global warming nor have
. they provided data that climate change is being
. effected by commerce and industry, and not by
. natural phenomena.
hhc...@yahoo.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
Actually, both the summers and winters, and oceans, are becoming
colder. Perhaps Global Warming is not up to the task it was intended
to perform.
Dhuh! (...And Al Gore received a Nobel Prize for doing precisely
what? Hell, the also gave one to Community Organizer Obam for doing
even less. What in the world are these guys smoking!)
Harry C.
Cwatters
<hhc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>Actually, both the summers and winters, and oceans, are becoming
>colder.
Nope.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/26/tech/main5423035.shtml
Quote:
In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent
statisticians and asked them to look for trends, without telling them what
the numbers represented. The experts found no true temperature declines over
time.
leona...@gmail.com
> > - -
> > . In real science the burden of proof is always
> > . on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
> > . neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
> > . iota of valid data for global warming nor have
> > . they provided data that climate change is being
> > . effected by commerce and industry, and not by
> > . natural phenomena.
> Actually, both the summers and winters, and oceans, are becoming
> colder. Perhaps Global Warming is not up to the task it was intended
> to perform.
>
> Dhuh! (...And Al Gore received a Nobel Prize for doing precisely
> what? Hell, the also gave one to Community Organizer Obam for doing
> even less. What in the world are these guys smoking!)
>
> Harry C.
•• Harry— Sorry to prick your balloon, but
warmer seas in the tropics are a forecast of the
coming glaciation.
---===0===---
The mechanics here are simple. The earth is getting
warmer in some areas thanks to the heat being given
off by the seas – picture standing next to a pot of
boiling water – you'll feel the heat. Stand next to a
heated ocean and you'll feel the warmth. That melting
ice in part of the arctic regions is probably the result of
hydro-thermal activity in the Gakkel Ridge under the
Arctic Ocean.
When that warm air coming north from the tropics
meets the frigid air coming south from the pole, it
creates violence. And the hotter the air from the south
and the colder the air from the north, the more violent
the collision will be. Tornadoes, violent storms, and
blizzards are some of the results.
This process feeds on itself. As the amount of
atmospheric moisture increases more precipitation is
sent poleward, resulting in more snowfall to build
heavier and heavier polar ice packs which fail to
decrease in summertime because the cloud cover
created by the moisture-laden air transported from the
tropics prevents any thawing.
As the ice packs grow deeper and heavier, more
magma is squeezed out and sent toward the equators,
creating more volcanic activity, which spews more
and more volcanic ash into the upper atmosphere,
along with enormous quantities of greenhouse gasses.
This results in greater and greater amounts of
moisture-laden clouds being sent poleward. And so on.
As the glaciation process continues, winters will get
longer and longer; that's colder air reaches farther and
farther toward the equator. Summers will get shorter
and shorter, and growing seasons will slowly vanish.
Areas previously blessed with temperate climates are
transformed into subarctic regions, and the subtropics
turn colder and colder.
And all this can happen in a matter of a very few years.
So few, that the world may very well learn that the
interglacial period has been replaced by the glaciation
process before the end of the next decade — or even
earlier.
— —
leona...@gmail.com
<colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
> <hhc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:bfd4f368-c4f2-4070...@f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >Actually, both the summers and winters, and oceans, are becoming
> >colder.
>
> Nope.
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/26/tech/main5423035.shtml
>
> Quote:
>
> In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent
> statisticians
Check to whom they asked --
The people that gave them the cooked and baked numbers
in the first place
> and asked them to look for trends, without telling them what
> the numbers represented.
> The experts found no true temperature declines over
> time.
•• If you are that gullible I have a frew briges to sell —
one in the desert
leona...@gmail.com
wrote:
•• What!! No takers for those lovely bridges??? <GG>
Cwatters
<leona...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 9, 1:33 pm, "Cwatters"
<colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
> <hhc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:bfd4f368-c4f2-4070...@f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >Actually, both the summers and winters, and oceans, are becoming
> >colder.
>
> Nope.
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/26/tech/main5423035.shtml
>
> Quote:
>
> In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent
> statisticians
>Check to whom they asked --
>The people that gave them the cooked and baked numbers
>in the first place
They were..
Professor John Grego of University of South Carolina, David Peterson,
retired from Duke University; Mack Shelley, director of public policy and
administration at Iowa State University; and Edward Melnick from New York
University.
leona...@gmail.com
<colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
> <leonard7...@gmail.com> wrote in message
•• It doesn't matter who read it
What matters is who wrote it.
Cwatters
<leona...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>�� It doesn't matter who read it
>
> What matters is who wrote it.
In which case you will have to go collect your own temperature data as I'm
sure you won't believe any other source.
leona...@gmail.com
<colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
> <leonard7...@gmail.com> wrote in message
•• ROTFLMAO
Your real problem is that I WILL believe them