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Doug Weller

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Feb 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/4/96
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In article <4f1m3e$f...@maureen.teleport.com>,
rfr...@teleport.com ("Dr. Richard Frager") wrote:

> Nobel Prize Winners Ask The Remaining UFO Debunkers to "Come Out Of The
> Closet"/Debunkers Should Be "Horsewhipped."
>
> Feb. 4, 1996 (AP)- Meeting today at Geneva, Switzerland, over 100 of
>
[SNIPPED the hoax article]

> "We must learn the truth. And proceed to cover-up the truth from the
> general public. We will tell them what they should know and what they
> shouldn't know. We know better than the public about the truth.
> --- Doug Weller

Hm, our fake 'Dr' says the #1 tactic of ufo debunkers (I'm not one,
by the way, I stay out of that argument) is lying. Yet this whole
article is a lie! Love the tactic of putting my name on something
I never wrote, quite typical. :-)

--
Doug Weller
"We must know the truth, and we must love the truth we know,
and we must act according to the measure of our love." Thomas Merton
***'De Chelonian Mobile!'***

Ericrow

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Feb 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/4/96
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Hope you don't think that we're all like the idjit who hoaxed up this
article and falsely quoted you - I believe that some UFO reports are not
conventionally explicable (are they spacecraft? I dont know) but I am NOT
opposed to skepticism. SKeptics help us separate the wheat from the chaff
- there's always a lot more chaff than wheat in this field. Way more.

I apologize for reputable ufologists.

Dr. Richard Frager

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Feb 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/5/96
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Maybe it's another Doug Weller!

Even it wasn't, it would be something you would say now, wouldn't it,
Doug!!

Have you gone through your hypno-therapy sessions yet, Doug. Perhaps
your rabid debunking is a sign of latent alien abductions. There is
always hope, even in you case. Trust me Doug, I'm a Doctor and my only
concern is with the patient. But Doug, you are trying my patients and
those ofthe nice alien race, the Nordics!!!

I know they don't look like us, but golly, they do know a few things we
don't. And isn't that worth taking the time to get to know them better?
The World says "yes," the "useful idiot debunkers" say no.
Come out of the closet, Doug, it is never to late to join the honest
researchers to find the truth. The time is now, will you wait to long??


We must distort, manipulate, destroy and demolish the truth before the
public gets it. Or they will demolish us!! ---- Doug Weller.

Dan Pressnell

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Feb 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/5/96
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dwe...@ramtops.demon.co.uk (Doug Weller) wrote:
>In article <4f1m3e$f...@maureen.teleport.com>,
> rfr...@teleport.com ("Dr. Richard Frager") wrote:
>
>> Nobel Prize Winners Ask The Remaining UFO Debunkers to "Come Out Of The
>> Closet"/Debunkers Should Be "Horsewhipped."
>>
>> Feb. 4, 1996 (AP)- Meeting today at Geneva, Switzerland, over 100 of
>>
>[SNIPPED the hoax article]
>
>> "We must learn the truth. And proceed to cover-up the truth from the
>> general public. We will tell them what they should know and what they
>> shouldn't know. We know better than the public about the truth.
>> --- Doug Weller
>
>Hm, our fake 'Dr' says the #1 tactic of ufo debunkers (I'm not one,
>by the way, I stay out of that argument) is lying. Yet this whole
>article is a lie! Love the tactic of putting my name on something
>I never wrote, quite typical. :-)
>

There you go, trying to cover up again. :)

Dan

Doug Weller

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Feb 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/5/96
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In article <4f453t$1...@maureen.teleport.com>,

rfr...@teleport.com ("Dr. Richard Frager") wro
[drivel SNIPPED]
> We must distort, manipulate, destroy and demolish the truth before the
> public gets it. Or they will demolish us!! ---- Doug Weller.

Come on now, whoever you are, show me where I've lied, distorted, etc?
Or is it just easier to claim I have -- why bother with proof?
And you don't seem to be able to explain why you posted that article
claiming that there was a US regulation that meant that touching
an alient could get you sent to jail without due process -- it
didn't take me much research to find out it was nonsense, but then
you don't care eh?
And you still don't seem able to remember what kind of 'Dr' you are.

Unknown

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Feb 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/6/96
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In article <19960205....@ramtops.demon.co.uk>, dwe...@ramtops.demon.co.uk says...

Doug, in reference to the AP email address, it is we...@well.sf.ca.us
I didn't take into account that you're in the U.K. and that the AP has
most of its offices in the U.S. No matter, the AP is probably going
through Dr.Frager's messages as you read this. ;)

_ ._. .._ _ .... Courbet


Brian Zeiler

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Feb 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/6/96
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(Courbet) wrote:

Why is everybody getting so bent out of shape over Frager's article? It
should be obvious to anybody that reads his posts that it was simply a
humorous parody or satire, and he clearly had no intention of passing off
a false representation of a real AP article. Any AP lawsuit would be
totally meritless for this reason, and I can't imagine that anybody
around here would think that Frager was really trying to fool anybody.

--
Brian Zeiler

rob

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Feb 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/6/96
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Brian, I wonder if you would be so tolerant, so accepting, so unconcerned,
if it was me or Doug or one of the other non-Believers that posted a fake
AP article? I'm not saying that Frager is the spawn of the devil, just
that he's a misguided loon who NEVER posts anything useful.

Many of the Believers here post thoughtful and interesting arguments. You
do yourself. Others, like Frager, just waste our time with name-calling,
blue-sky accusations and downright crap.

Both Believers AND skeptics who don't add to the discussion, but instead
waste our time with nonsense should be ignored. This isn't a radical
notion, we've been doing it for years.

Doug Weller

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Feb 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/6/96
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In article <4f6n8a$j...@ionews.ionet.net>,
(Courbet (Courbet) wrote:

>
> Doug, in reference to the AP email address, it is we...@well.sf.ca.us
> I didn't take into account that you're in the U.K. and that the AP has
> most of its offices in the U.S. No matter, the AP is probably going
> through Dr.Frager's messages as you read this. ;)

Thanks a lot, might be useful! You forgot the quotes around 'Dr.'. :-)

viewer

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Feb 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/6/96
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Brian Zeiler <bdze...@students.wisc.edu> wrote:

>(Courbet) wrote:
>
>Why is everybody getting so bent out of shape over Frager's article? It
>should be obvious to anybody that reads his posts that it was simply a
>humorous parody or satire, and he clearly had no intention of passing off
>a false representation of a real AP article. Any AP lawsuit would be
>totally meritless for this reason, and I can't imagine that anybody
>around here would think that Frager was really trying to fool anybody.

Then again, if he's collectible, anything goes.

Dr. Richard Frager

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Feb 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/7/96
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Thank you both, Brian and Mr. Courbet for pointing out the obvious.
Although the post about Dean's whipping was true.

Why the UFO debunkers could not recognize parody makes me suspicious
that these UFO Debunkers are alien-human hybrid clones!!!!

LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE:

1) The World has seen an alien autopsy film but never any footage of an
autopsy of an UFO debunker. WHY??

2) The World has seen implants being taken out of abductees but never
UFO debunkers. WHY?

3) UFO debunkers talk very slowly and process information very
haphazardly, like clones are reported to do. WHY?

4) UFO Debunkers miss very obvious parodies of themselves but are very
preoccupied with Mars, Venus, Swamp Gas and Ball Lightning. WHY?

5) The vast majority of UFO debunkers have a Military background, which
they will not divulge. WHY?

6) UFO debunkers always, without fail, use Rule #1 of the Debunkers:
Attack the person and not the evidence. WHY?

7) UFO Debunkers are both "useful idiots" and "alien-hench-men" WHY????
Except, in your case, Andrea - that would be an alien-henchwoman!!!


Grantland

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Feb 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/7/96
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>LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE:

I like you, "Doktor". You remind me greatly of another ostensible
lunatic with a sense of humour, the great "Le Compte de Saint
Germain". O please come back, Le Compte! And while I'm
reminiscing(sp?), where are James McGowan and Nancy. I miss them
greatly.

Keep it up, "Doktor"!

Grantland
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Dr. Richard Frager

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Feb 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/8/96
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Doug,

Okay, you got out of your horse-whipping. But it was thanks to ME,
that you did!! After that terrible beating your brother Deanno took, I
couldn't stand to see anymore useless violence. (Although we still have
to stand these useful idiots!)

And this is the THANKS I get, some more blasphemy and slandering.
That's okay, I can take it, I've learned well from the debunkers!

I still have not recieved any confirmation from you about researching
the crop circles this spring over there in England. Let me know.
Perhaps I can drag old Deano over and a few other debunkers and we can
debunk the day away with Doug (the OTHER Doug) and Dave. Hope to hear
from you soon, and take care!!

Happy Debunking,

Cheers.

Blue Resonant Human

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Feb 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/10/96
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Brian Zeiler <bdze...@students.wisc.edu> wrote:

>Why is everybody getting so bent out of shape over Frager's article? It
>should be obvious to anybody that reads his posts that it was simply a
>humorous parody or satire, and he clearly had no intention of passing off
>a false representation of a real AP article. Any AP lawsuit would be
>totally meritless for this reason, and I can't imagine that anybody
>around here would think that Frager was really trying to fool anybody.

I agree. It was hilarious. Humor can be a very effective antidote to
the ambient "psychic toxicity" of this field of research.

We asked the Kryon(tm) and he/she/it was in full agreement with us on
this.

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