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stormy0...@my-dejanews.com

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Apr 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/12/99
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How did you create a fake picture with ghost in it?

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Eric Hocking

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>How did you create a fake picture with ghost in it?

I'd say creating a fake picture with a ghost in it would be harder than
creating a picture with a fake ghost in it.

Double exposure'd do it.
Bulb setting in low light with illuminated person(s) moving quickly in front
of the lens'd do it.
Digital manipulation would be even simpler.


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W. Ivey

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Apr 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/12/99
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Eric Hocking wrote in message <7essd2$n...@atbhp.corpmel.bhp.com.au>...

>stormy0...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
><7esbno$7cb$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>
>>How did you create a fake picture with ghost in it?
>
>I'd say creating a fake picture with a ghost in it would be harder than
>creating a picture with a fake ghost in it.
>
>Double exposure'd do it.
>Bulb setting in low light with illuminated person(s) moving quickly in
front
>of the lens'd do it.
>Digital manipulation would be even simpler.


Digital manipulation is the easy way out. In the good ol' days...

We did figure out a way to make ghost images on the supposedly
un-fakable Polaroid SX-70, et al, film. In a dark room, you slip
the cover sheet off of the top of the pack. Then place an
appropriate transparancy on top of the pack and expose it to a
dim or brief light (get creative, use various colors). Finally,
replace the cover sheet onto the pack (this can be tricky in the
dark). Now you can reload the camera (which will spit out the
cover sheet, positioning your pre-doctored film at the top).
The best part is letting someone else take a picture and
discover the "ghost." -Wm

Eric Hocking

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Apr 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/14/99
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W. Ivey wrote in message ...

>We did figure out a way to make ghost images on the supposedly
>un-fakable Polaroid SX-70, et al, film.

Aaah.

The sublime combination of anorak-like tinkering with a perverse sense of
practical jokery!

Who could ask for more?

Tom Asquith

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Apr 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/14/99
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On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:20:43 +0100, "Eric Hocking"
<ehoc...@twofromoz.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>stormy0...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
><7esbno$7cb$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>
>>How did you create a fake picture with ghost in it?
>
>I'd say creating a fake picture with a ghost in it would be harder than
>creating a picture with a fake ghost in it.
>
>Double exposure'd do it.
>Bulb setting in low light with illuminated person(s) moving quickly in front
>of the lens'd do it.
>Digital manipulation would be even simpler.

You missed the old trick of Pepper's Ghost (most frequently used in
theatre--e.g., Phantom of the Opera's mirror scene, swimming mermaids in
restaurants, girl becomes gorilla). Have one subject stand in blackened area
where the reflection is cast onto a glass sheet. If lighting is roughly equal
(or greater for the "ghost" in the box), the ghost subject will seem to be
present in the scene behind the glass. Picture is taken without flash. This
trick also works for video. [Good for teaching about Lens' Law, BTW, for
schoolteachers out there]

Double exposure is easiest (watch the shutter speeds though), as will a leaky
camera (number of ghost pics in the 1930s had camera that were poor at keeping
stray light away from the film).

An image on the lens is another trick that has been used (for both ghosts and
psychic photography).

If none of these work, try cheesecloth for some ectoplasm (one picture is all
that is necessary). :-)

Cheers,
Tom Asquith

Eric J. Korpela

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Apr 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/14/99
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In article <7esbno$7cb$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
<stormy0...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:

>How did you create a fake picture with ghost in it?

The most common method is one that occurs accidentally some times.
Take your snapshot camera, turn on the flash. Point it at a stairway
Dangle the camera strap 3 to 6 inches in front of the camera lens. Press
the button. Make up a story about seeing a spectral figure descending
the stairs. Explain how you're suprised the features are so blurry on
film, because they were so sharp in "reality". Take more pictures on
other occasions. Spiral telephone cords make great ghosts. Build fake
scientific equipment to prove the existance of ghosts. Go on talk shows.
Run tours.

Eric

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John Wright

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Apr 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/14/99
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W. Ivey wrote in message ...
>Eric Hocking wrote in message <7essd2$n...@atbhp.corpmel.bhp.com.au>...
>>stormy0...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
>><7esbno$7cb$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>>
>>>How did you create a fake picture with ghost in it?
>>
>
>We did figure out a way to make ghost images on the supposedly
>un-fakable Polaroid SX-70, et al, film. In a dark room, you slip
>the cover sheet off of the top of the pack. Then place an
>appropriate transparancy on top of the pack and expose it to a
>dim or brief light (get creative, use various colors). Finally,
>replace the cover sheet onto the pack (this can be tricky in the
>dark). Now you can reload the camera (which will spit out the
>cover sheet, positioning your pre-doctored film at the top).
>The best part is letting someone else take a picture and
>discover the "ghost." -Wm
>
>

The other way to fake it with Polaroid film is to take the picture, then as
it's developing, rub your finger hard over part of the surface. This alters
the rate of the developing, as chemicals are moved and released at the wrong
time. So you get coloured smears over the image - a ghost! Some artistic
photographers use this method to make interesting weird coloured images,
tearing off the cover and manipulating parts of the image as they see it
being formed.

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W. Ivey

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Apr 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/14/99
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John Wright wrote in message <7f2tu0$gan$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>...

>
>The other way to fake it with Polaroid film is to take the picture, then as
>it's developing, rub your finger hard over part of the surface. This
alters
>the rate of the developing, as chemicals are moved and released at the
wrong
>time. So you get coloured smears over the image - a ghost! Some artistic
>photographers use this method to make interesting weird coloured images,
>tearing off the cover and manipulating parts of the image as they see it
>being formed.


Ahh, this takes me back... Another fun-with-Polaroid trick was to wait
until it had developed, but not too long (within an hour I think it
was), then cut three edges off the film (a little messy). Then you
could actually grab the emulsion and peel it from the plastic cover.
It was flexible enough to stretch and distort quite a bit, we even
wrapped one around an egg once. I don't know if the current versions
of SX-70/600 film will allow this though. -Wm

Kevin D. Quitt

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Apr 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/15/99
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On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:52:54 GMT, "W. Ivey" <wi...@flash.net> wrote:
>We did figure out a way to make ghost images on the supposedly
>un-fakable Polaroid SX-70, et al, film.

The equipment to do this easily is available at any good magic supply shop.
It's used in mental magic. Force a card, have the volunteer concentrate on the
card, take their picture - and the card is a ghostly image over their picture.

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Francis J Knepper

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Apr 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/18/99
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In Message-ID: <371a60cf....@news.pacificnet.net> Ke...@Quitt.net
(Kevin D. Quitt) writes:

>On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:52:54 GMT, "W. Ivey" <wi...@flash.net> wrote:
>>We did figure out a way to make ghost images on the supposedly
>>un-fakable Polaroid SX-70, et al, film.
>
>The equipment to do this easily is available at any good magic supply
shop.
>It's used in mental magic. Force a card, have the volunteer concentrate
on the
>card, take their picture - and the card is a ghostly image over their
picture.

Pictures have been lying ever since photography was invented. One can
fake all kinds of images on Polaroid instant-print pictures, using a
sheet of glass at a 45-degree angle to the lens. Check any book on
special effects written back before it was all done digitally for more
ideas. Amaze your friends! Be printed in "Weekly World News!" Your
home town can be the next Roswell!!

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W. Ivey

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Francis J Knepper wrote in message
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>
>Pictures have been lying ever since photography was invented. One can
>fake all kinds of images on Polaroid instant-print pictures, using a
>sheet of glass at a 45-degree angle to the lens. Check any book on
>special effects written back before it was all done digitally for more
>ideas. Amaze your friends! Be printed in "Weekly World News!" Your
>home town can be the next Roswell!!
>
>Francis Knepper


I know, but there were claims made in the 70s and 80s that pictures
taken on SX-70 style film were somehow immune to in-camera tampering.
Whereas, in reality, it's much easier to tamper with than the
style Polaroid film due to its nice unit packaging. -Wm

Kevin D. Quitt

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Apr 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/18/99
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On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:17:20 -0500, Francis J Knepper <fkne...@juno.com> wrote:
>One can
>fake all kinds of images on Polaroid instant-print pictures, using a
>sheet of glass at a 45-degree angle to the lens.

Yes, but that's hard to do in the field. It's easy enough to jigger the film
first, so that you can take the picture when people can see you snap it (and
ideally can't see what you're shooting at).

Syd Midnight

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"Kevin D. Quitt" wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:17:20 -0500, Francis J Knepper <fkne...@juno.com> wrote:
> >One can
> >fake all kinds of images on Polaroid instant-print pictures, using a
> >sheet of glass at a 45-degree angle to the lens.

Appropriately enough, the book "Penn and Teller Play in Traffic" contains a magic
trick that INVOLVES making an image appear on Polaroid film. No ghosts, that
wouldn't be quite as fun.. one of their tricks was to predict a person's "guardian
vegetable", then take a Polaroid of them, and lo and behold a mysterious ghostly
carrot with wings and a halo appears in the image!

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