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Jan 7, 2010, 11:42:40 PM1/7/10
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/weather/article6980077.ece

With temperatures dropping to -20C, Britain needs to burn
more fossil fuels to combat global cooling. The situation is
grave, the snow cover is reflecting energy back into space
and increasing the cooling effect. We are doing all we can
to reduce Earth's albedo by clearing snow from our roads
and driving on them to keep them snow free, but we need to
get rid of Gordon Brown and his AGW cranks who are busy
taxing the fuel we so desperately need to save the Earth.
Al Qaeda members can help. Please come and stand in the
middle of open, snow covered fields and detonate yourselves
to move the snow. We'll supply the fertiliser and diesel fuel.
Thank you.

Surfer

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Jan 8, 2010, 2:06:43 AM1/8/10
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On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 15:42:40 +1100, " n0 b o" <m...@nnn.com> wrote:

> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/weather/article6980077.ece
>
>With temperatures dropping to -20C, Britain needs to burn
>more fossil fuels to combat global cooling.
>

That is not what the article says.

However, the enhanced greenhouse effect means that warming of the
earths surface must be accompanied by cooling of the upper atmosphere.

A greater temperature difference between the two means there must be
greater convection.

Greater convection means that polar air can be pushed further towards
temperate regions in winter.

n0 b o

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Jan 8, 2010, 9:09:02 PM1/8/10
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"Surfer" <n...@spam.net> wrote in message
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ROTFLMAO
Squirm in the face of global cooling, you leftie whacko, squirm!

Warmest Regards

Bon_0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."
Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville


leona...@gmail.com

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Jan 9, 2010, 11:50:34 AM1/9/10
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On Jan 8, 2:06 am, Surfer <n...@spam.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 15:42:40 +1100, " n0 b o" <m...@nnn.com> wrote:
>
> >  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/weather/article6980077.ece
>
> >With temperatures dropping to -20C, Britain needs to burn
> >more fossil fuels to combat global cooling.
>
> That is not what the article says.
>
> However, the enhanced greenhouse effect means that warming of the
> earths surface must be accompanied by cooling of the upper atmosphere.

• Surfer with logic like that you would make
a wonderful apologist for Algore

> A greater temperature difference between the two means there must be
> greater convection.

• Convection of what, Fool?

> Greater convection means that polar air can be pushed further towards
> temperate regions in winter.

• Bullshit!!!!!!!!!!

Surfer

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Jan 9, 2010, 1:47:03 PM1/9/10
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On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 08:50:34 -0800 (PST), "leona...@gmail.com"
<leona...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jan 8, 2:06�am, Surfer <n...@spam.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 15:42:40 +1100, " n0 b o" <m...@nnn.com> wrote:
>>
>> > �http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/weather/article6980077.ece
>>
>> >With temperatures dropping to -20C, Britain needs to burn
>> >more fossil fuels to combat global cooling.
>>
>> That is not what the article says.
>>
>> However, the enhanced greenhouse effect means that warming of the
>> earths surface must be accompanied by cooling of the upper atmosphere.
>
>� Surfer with logic like that you would make
> a wonderful apologist for Algore
>
>> A greater temperature difference between the two means there must be
>> greater convection.
>
>� Convection of what, Fool?
>

Convection of warm air upward.

Polar Cell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_circulation#Polar_cell

<Start extract>

Though cool and dry relative to equatorial air, air masses at the 60th
parallel are still sufficiently warm and moist to undergo convection
and drive a thermal loop. Air circulates within the troposphere,
limited vertically by the tropopause at about 8 km. Warm air rises at
lower latitudes and moves poleward through the upper troposphere at
both the north and south poles. When the air reaches the polar areas,
it has cooled considerably, and descends as a cold, dry high pressure
area, moving away from the pole along the surface but twisting
westward as a result of the Coriolis effect to produce the Polar
easterlies.

<End extract>

>
>> Greater convection means that polar air can be pushed further towards
>> temperate regions in winter.
>
>� Bullshit!!!!!!!!!!

No. Greater convection in the polar cell would increase the flow of
cold air from the pole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_circulation#Polar_cell
<Start extract>

It can be argued that the Polar cell is the primary weathermaker for
regions above the middle northern latitudes. While Canadians and
Europeans may have to deal with occasional heavy summer storms, there
is nothing like a winter visit from a Siberian high to give one a true
appreciation of real cold. In fact, it is the polar high which is
responsible for generating the coldest temperature recorded on Earth:
-89.2�C at Vostok II Station in 1983 in Antarctica.

<End extract>

Surfer

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Jan 9, 2010, 2:18:24 PM1/9/10
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On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 13:09:02 +1100, " n0 b o" <m...@nnn.com> wrote:

>
>"Surfer" <n...@spam.net> wrote in message
>news:7bldk5t438idgsrrc...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 15:42:40 +1100, " n0 b o" <m...@nnn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/weather/article6980077.ece
>>>
>>>With temperatures dropping to -20C, Britain needs to burn
>>>more fossil fuels to combat global cooling.
>>>
>> That is not what the article says.
>>
>> However, the enhanced greenhouse effect means that warming of the
>> earths surface must be accompanied by cooling of the upper atmosphere.
>>
>> A greater temperature difference between the two means there must be
>> greater convection.
>>
>> Greater convection means that polar air can be pushed further towards
>> temperate regions in winter.
>
>
>ROTFLMAO
>Squirm in the face of global cooling, you leftie whacko, squirm!
>

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071216123341AAA3lgy

".....In the winter months Britain is almost wholly within the Polar
Cell....."

So greater convection within the cell will move a larger quantity of
cold polar air over areas such as Britain.

This is only a local cooling effect.

leona...@gmail.com

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Jan 9, 2010, 4:32:18 PM1/9/10
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On Jan 9, 1:47 pm, Surfer <n...@spam.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 08:50:34 -0800 (PST), "leonard7...@gmail.com"

>
>
>
> <leonard7...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 8, 2:06 am, Surfer <n...@spam.net> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 15:42:40 +1100, " n0 b o" <m...@nnn.com> wrote:
>
> >> >  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/weather/article6980077.ece
>
> >> >With temperatures dropping to -20C, Britain needs to burn
> >> >more fossil fuels to combat global cooling.
>
> >> That is not what the article says.
>
> >> However, the enhanced greenhouse effect means that warming of the
> >> earths surface must be accompanied by cooling of the upper atmosphere.
>
> >• Surfer with logic like that you would make
> >    a wonderful apologist for Algore
>
> >> A greater temperature difference between the two means there must be
> >> greater convection.
>
> >• Convection of what, Fool?
>
> Convection of warm air upward.
>
> Polar Cellhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_circulation#Polar_cell

>
> <Start extract>
>
> Though cool and dry relative to equatorial air, air masses at the 60th
> parallel are still sufficiently warm and moist to undergo convection
> and drive a thermal loop. Air circulates within the troposphere,
> limited vertically by the tropopause at about 8 km. Warm air rises at
> lower latitudes and moves poleward through the upper troposphere at
> both the north and south poles. When the air reaches the polar areas,
> it has cooled considerably, and descends as a cold, dry high pressure
> area, moving away from the pole along the surface but twisting
> westward as a result of the Coriolis effect to produce the Polar
> easterlies.
>
> <End extract>
>
>
>
> >> Greater convection means that polar air can be pushed further towards
> >> temperate regions in winter.
>
> >• Bullshit!!!!!!!!!!
>
> No. Greater convection in the polar cell would increase the flow of
> cold air from the pole.

• You are not very convincing and neither of
your Wikipedia bullshit pieces (written by an
AGW alarmist) can change that.

When that warm air coming north from the tropics
meets the frigid air coming south from the pole, it
creates violence. And the hotter the air from the south
and the colder the air from the north, the more violent
the collision will be. Tornadoes, violent storms, and
blizzards are some of the results.

This process feeds on itself. As the amount of
atmospheric moisture increases more precipitation
is sent poleward, resulting in more snowfall to build
heavier and heavier polar ice packs which fail to
decrease in summertime because the cloud cover
created by the moisture-laden air transported from
the tropics prevents any thawing.

— —
| In real science the burden of proof is always
| on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
| neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
| iota of valid data for global warming nor have
| they provided data that climate change is being
| effected by commerce and industry, and not by
| natural phenomena

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Jan 9, 2010, 10:23:50 PM1/9/10
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"Surfer" <n...@spam.net> wrote in message
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Just l;ike the LOCAL heating effect on Adelaide and Melbourne from hot
northerly desert air streams.
And greenie whackos continue to bleat that this is "consistent with global
warmong"!!
Nothing to do with CO2!

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