Of the largest 500 companies in the world how many are Indian?
Michael Newman
Arthur Sowers
There have been one or two articles in the Wall Street Journal in the last
2-3 years on this. In Silicon Valley, actually dozens of medium size
companies are all or almost all Indian. Some are Korean, Some
Taiwanese. Of the 500 largest in the world, I don't know. About half of
the top 10 or so are Japanese. Several in the top 20 are British. This
information is given at least once per year in the WSJ. I usually don't
look much farther down than the first 20, but I do remembber that when you
look farther down, a surprizingly widening geography shows up. You might
be interested to know that the 3rd largest insurance/re-insurance industry
in the world is entirely contained on the island of Bermuda.
Arthur E. Sowers, PhD
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Michael Newman
Arthur Sowers <arth...@magpage.com> wrote:
>
> There have been one or two articles in the Wall Street Journal in the
last
> 2-3 years on this. In Silicon Valley, actually dozens of medium size
> companies are all or almost all Indian.
I assume you mean based out of India. Can you name a few of these?
> Some are Korean, Some
> Taiwanese. Of the 500 largest in the world, I don't know. About half
of
> the top 10 or so are Japanese. Several in the top 20 are British. This
> information is given at least once per year in the WSJ. I usually
don't
> look much farther down than the first 20, but I do remembber that
when you
> look farther down, a surprizingly widening geography shows up.
To some extent. However, not surprisingly its mostly confined to
Europe, the United States, Japan, and the Asian tiger countries. All of
this information can be found at the Fortune web site:
From what I can tell there are no companies based out of India on this
list, but I was looking for confirmation.
> You might
> be interested to know that the 3rd largest insurance/re-insurance
industry
> in the world is entirely contained on the island of Bermuda.
Huh?
> Arthur E. Sowers, PhD
> ----------------------------------------
> | Science career information websites: |
> | http://freeshell.org/~advocacy |
> | http://www.magpage.com/~arthures |
> ----------------------------------------
>
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Michael Newman wrote:
>
> > 0? 1? 2?
> >
> > Just curious.
> >
> > --
> > Michael Newman
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
> >
>
>
You didn't answer my question. Your ignorance is astounding, and yet
you feel the need to answer every question posted to this newsgroup.
Marc
Michael Newman <michael...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8li7cs$6kk$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> 0? 1? 2?
>
> Just curious.
>
Indian Oil would be one.
Some recent merger in telecommunications would be number 2, but I can't
remember the name.
Marc
> In article <8lir1l$1qp$0...@216.155.0.50>,
> Arthur Sowers <arth...@magpage.com> wrote:
> > You might
> > be interested to know that the 3rd largest insurance/re-insurance
> industry
> > in the world is entirely contained on the island of Bermuda.
>
> Huh?
Art is right, historically Bermuda has been one of the top "off-shore"
insurance and banking centers, combining low taxes with a stable British
legal system.
> You didn't answer my question. Your ignorance is astounding, and yet
> you feel the need to answer every question posted to this newsgroup.
Welcome to s.r.c., but remember you get what you paid for. You were the one
who posted the question to this group, remember? What did you expect to get
back -- informed and knowledgable opinion?
It's your own fault.
Michael Newman
"Marc" <mlam...@yawho.com> wrote:
>
> Michael Newman <michael...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:8lj0ho$p7n$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > In article <8lir1l$1qp$0...@216.155.0.50>,
> > Arthur Sowers <arth...@magpage.com> wrote:
> > > You might
> > > be interested to know that the 3rd largest insurance/re-insurance
> > industry
> > > in the world is entirely contained on the island of Bermuda.
> >
> > Huh?
>
> Art is right
My 'Huh?' had a set of meanings associated with it -- as in 'huh, you
don't what you're talking about', 'huh, please provide a
reference', 'huh, I don't believe you Art because you're often a
babbling idiot', and finally 'huh, the sentence you wrote above doesn't
make sense'. Sorry for the confusion.
So, as I stated previously the sentence given above doesn't seem to
make sense:
'...the 3rd largest insurance/re-insurance industry in the world is
entirely contained on the island of Bermuda'
Is he saying the third largest industry (insurance) in the world is
contained on the island of Bermuda? Doubtful. That the third largest
insurance/re-insurance company in the world is located on the island of
Bermuda? Again doubtful. So what exactly is he right about?
>, historically Bermuda has been one of the top "off-shore"
> insurance and banking centers
No doubt a top "off-shore" center in banking, but we were talking about
*world* comparisons. I'm still confused about what he was trying to
state.
>, combining low taxes with a stable British
> legal system.
>
> > You didn't answer my question. Your ignorance is astounding, and yet
> > you feel the need to answer every question posted to this newsgroup.
>
> Welcome to s.r.c.,
I've lurked for a number of years.
> but remember you get what you paid for.
Not really -- most newsgroups are helpful, and they don't have an
egotistical dominating personality associated with them. Usually these
people are called trolls.
> You were the one
> who posted the question to this group, remember?
What does this have to with anything?
> What did you expect to get
> back
Just what I get from most normal newsgroups -- either an answer or some
pointers toward getting answers. Not the personal ramblings of
Art's 'inner-mind' as he recollects one of his days reading the Wall
Street Journal.
-- informed and knowledgable opinion?
Of course -- since most newsgroups provide something approximating
this. My only fault would be that the question is off topic.
> It's your own fault.
Huh? [see above]
Arthur Sowers
Michael,
I just gave a "conversational" answer to your question. I don't
follow in any detail the subject line issue and I have no idea what your
agenda is.
Of course the largest companies will have strong relationships with
countries with large economies, but I recall seeing some rather small
countries ( or "country entities" eg. the Bermuda-insurance
connection) with dominant industries, if not companies.
Art
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Michael Newman wrote:
> In article <8lir1l$1qp$0...@216.155.0.50>,
> Arthur Sowers <arth...@magpage.com> wrote:
> >
> > There have been one or two articles in the Wall Street Journal in the
> last
> > 2-3 years on this. In Silicon Valley, actually dozens of medium size
> > companies are all or almost all Indian.
>
> I assume you mean based out of India. Can you name a few of these?
>
> > Some are Korean, Some
> > Taiwanese. Of the 500 largest in the world, I don't know. About half
> of
> > the top 10 or so are Japanese. Several in the top 20 are British. This
> > information is given at least once per year in the WSJ. I usually
> don't
> > look much farther down than the first 20, but I do remembber that
> when you
> > look farther down, a surprizingly widening geography shows up.
>
> To some extent. However, not surprisingly its mostly confined to
> Europe, the United States, Japan, and the Asian tiger countries. All of
> this information can be found at the Fortune web site:
>
> www.fortune.com
>
> From what I can tell there are no companies based out of India on this
> list, but I was looking for confirmation.
>
> > You might
> > be interested to know that the 3rd largest insurance/re-insurance
> industry
> > in the world is entirely contained on the island of Bermuda.
>
> Huh?
>
> > Arthur E. Sowers, PhD
> > ----------------------------------------
> > | Science career information websites: |
> > | http://freeshell.org/~advocacy |
> > | http://www.magpage.com/~arthures |
> > ----------------------------------------
> >
> > On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Michael Newman wrote:
> >
> > > 0? 1? 2?
> > >
> > > Just curious.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael Newman
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.
> > >
> >
> >
>
> You didn't answer my question. Your ignorance is astounding, and yet
> you feel the need to answer every question posted to this newsgroup.
>
Arthur Sowers
Michael:
Newsgroups are not sources of absolutely perfect and free knowledge
(see your own comments below). You expect correct and in depth answers,
and for free. If you don't like what you are getting, then pay a library
consultant hundreds of dollars per hour to get what is available.
As far as Bermuda is concerned, I read in a "fact brochure" while there on
vacation that, of all money flowing through the insurance/financial
markets, the third largest concentration (among a number co comapanies),
is on the island of Bermuda. This is not one company, but it is one very
small island and it DOES wag the tail of the world.
Now, what, in a number of YOUR posts, have YOU contributed to the
discussion of ANYTHING?
Art Sowers
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Michael Newman wrote:
> In article <p79f5.45371$DJ2.2...@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>,
> "Marc" <mlam...@yawho.com> wrote:
> >
> > Michael Newman <michael...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> > news:8lj0ho$p7n$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > > In article <8lir1l$1qp$0...@216.155.0.50>,
> > > Arthur Sowers <arth...@magpage.com> wrote:
> > > > You might
> > > > be interested to know that the 3rd largest insurance/re-insurance
> > > industry
> > > > in the world is entirely contained on the island of Bermuda.
> > >
> > > Huh?
> >
> > Art is right
>
> My 'Huh?' had a set of meanings associated with it -- as in 'huh, you
> don't what you're talking about', 'huh, please provide a
> reference', 'huh, I don't believe you Art because you're often a
> babbling idiot', and finally 'huh, the sentence you wrote above doesn't
> make sense'. Sorry for the confusion.
>
> So, as I stated previously the sentence given above doesn't seem to
> make sense:
>
> '...the 3rd largest insurance/re-insurance industry in the world is
> entirely contained on the island of Bermuda'
>
> Is he saying the third largest industry (insurance) in the world is
> contained on the island of Bermuda? Doubtful. That the third largest
> insurance/re-insurance company in the world is located on the island of
> Bermuda? Again doubtful. So what exactly is he right about?
>
> >, historically Bermuda has been one of the top "off-shore"
> > insurance and banking centers
>
> No doubt a top "off-shore" center in banking, but we were talking about
> *world* comparisons. I'm still confused about what he was trying to
> state.
>
> >, combining low taxes with a stable British
> > legal system.
> >
> > > You didn't answer my question. Your ignorance is astounding, and yet
> > > you feel the need to answer every question posted to this newsgroup.
> >
> > Welcome to s.r.c.,
>
> I've lurked for a number of years.
>
> > but remember you get what you paid for.
>
> Not really -- most newsgroups are helpful, and they don't have an
> egotistical dominating personality associated with them. Usually these
> people are called trolls.
>
> > You were the one
> > who posted the question to this group, remember?
>
> What does this have to with anything?
>
> > What did you expect to get
> > back
>
> Just what I get from most normal newsgroups -- either an answer or some
> pointers toward getting answers. Not the personal ramblings of
> Art's 'inner-mind' as he recollects one of his days reading the Wall
> Street Journal.
>
> -- informed and knowledgable opinion?
>
> Of course -- since most newsgroups provide something approximating
> this. My only fault would be that the question is off topic.
>
> > It's your own fault.
>
> Huh? [see above]
>
lamp...@my-deja.com
Michael Newman <michael...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> Not really -- most newsgroups are helpful, and they don't have an
> egotistical dominating personality associated with them. Usually these
> people are called trolls.
Art is not a troll. He sincerely believe in what he says.
> > You were the one
> > who posted the question to this group, remember?
>
> What does this have to with anything?
>
> > What did you expect to get
> > back
>
> Just what I get from most normal newsgroups -- either an answer or
some
> pointers toward getting answers.
But if you've really been lurking you'd have already known this is not a
normal newsgroup and that Art indeed does respond to every question
regardless of what he knows -- ergo sum it's your own fault.
Anyway, Indian Oil I think is the one answer to your question, I read
some story about it a year ago and it then ranked 200-something on the
global 500 li
Halpern
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 lamp...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > Art is not a troll. He sincerely believe in what he says.
>
> Thats OK. Josh Halpern thinks I'm a troll (and a lot of other
> things).
No I believe you are an incubus.
josh halpern
Arthur Sowers
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 lamp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <8lj9tk$vcl$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Michael Newman <michael...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > Not really -- most newsgroups are helpful, and they don't have an
> > egotistical dominating personality associated with them. Usually these
> > people are called trolls.
>
> Art is not a troll. He sincerely believe in what he says.
Thats OK. Josh Halpern thinks I'm a troll (and a lot of other
things). Yes, I believe in what I say. I think you do, too. Truth may be
somewhere in between...or...somewhere else....or...wherever the eyes of
the beholder wishes it to be.
>
> > > You were the one
> > > who posted the question to this group, remember?
> >
> > What does this have to with anything?
> >
> > > What did you expect to get
> > > back
> >
> > Just what I get from most normal newsgroups -- either an answer or
> some
> > pointers toward getting answers.
>
>
> But if you've really been lurking you'd have already known this is not a
> normal newsgroup and that Art indeed does respond to every question
> regardless of what he knows -- ergo sum it's your own fault.
Hah! What is a "normal" newsgroup? I've seen the same range in quality of
answers on practically every newsgroup I've spent any time on.
No, I don't respond to every question. ..."regardless of what he
knows"...can be said about a lot of posters.
> Anyway, Indian Oil I think is the one answer to your question, I read
> some story about it a year ago and it then ranked 200-something on the
> global 500 li
They also have the only Taj Mahal in the world. ;-)
Art Sowers
R. Martin
>
> Arthur Sowers wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 lamp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > > Art is not a troll. He sincerely believe in what he says.
> >
> > Thats OK. Josh Halpern thinks I'm a troll (and a lot of other
> > things).
>
>
> josh halpern
incubus - 1. a spirit supposed to work evil on persons in their sleep
2. nightmare
3. a person or thing that oppresses or burdens like a
nightmare
4. a warm mass transit vehicle used to hatch chickens
I assume you're using the third definition.
Regards,
Russell
--
At the helm of Science, steering the ship of Progress away
from the reef of Ignorance.
Marc
Halpern <the...@erols.com> wrote in message
news:397E5275...@erols.com...
> Arthur Sowers wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 lamp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > > Art is not a troll. He sincerely believe in what he says.
> >
> > Thats OK. Josh Halpern thinks I'm a troll (and a lot of other
> > things).
>
> No I believe you are an incubus.
http://www.pantheon.org/mythica/gallery/folklore/incubus.html
rick++
Arthur Sowers
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Halpern wrote:
> Arthur Sowers wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 lamp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > > Art is not a troll. He sincerely believe in what he says.
> >
> > Thats OK. Josh Halpern thinks I'm a troll (and a lot of other
> > things).
>
> No I believe you are an incubus.
>
> josh halpern
>
>
>
>
Oh? OK! Josh Halpern once thought I was a troll. Now, he "believes" I am
an incubus.
But....
He didn't say anything about the "lot of other things," though.
Yours truly,
Art Sowers
Chris LaRosa
> > >
> > > > Art is not a troll. He sincerely believe in what he says.
> > >
> > > Thats OK. Josh Halpern thinks I'm a troll (and a lot of other
> > > things).
> >
> > No I believe you are an incubus.
> >
> > josh halpern
> >
>
Please define troll.
Perhaps some of you are succubii??? >
Arthur Sowers
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, R. Martin wrote:
> Halpern wrote:
> >
> > Arthur Sowers wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 lamp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Art is not a troll. He sincerely believe in what he says.
> > >
> > > Thats OK. Josh Halpern thinks I'm a troll (and a lot of other
> > > things).
> >
> > No I believe you are an incubus.
> >
> > josh halpern
>
> incubus - 1. a spirit supposed to work evil on persons in their sleep
> 2. nightmare
> 3. a person or thing that oppresses or burdens like a
> nightmare
> 4. a warm mass transit vehicle used to hatch chickens
>
> I assume you're using the third definition.
>
> Regards,
> Russell
> --
> At the helm of Science, steering the ship of Progress away
> from the reef of Ignorance.
>
Ah.... Russ ..... ah..... you didn't cite a refernce and page number for
those four definition/daffynitions.
Art-the-incubus
Arthur Sowers
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Marc wrote:
>
> Halpern <the...@erols.com> wrote in message
> news:397E5275...@erols.com...
> > Arthur Sowers wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 lamp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Art is not a troll. He sincerely believe in what he says.
> > >
> > > Thats OK. Josh Halpern thinks I'm a troll (and a lot of other
> > > things).
> >
> > No I believe you are an incubus.
>
>
> http://www.pantheon.org/mythica/gallery/folklore/incubus.html
>
>
>
Do you expect me to log off my DOS-based terminal connection (and thus
infinitely resistant to hackers, viruses, and OS bugs) to a ISP unix
server running PINE so I can log back in over a ppp-connection and launch
my Netscape (all this would take about 2-3 minutes of my valuable time) to
check this out?
..
.
.
..
.
...
.
... of course I could go to the unix prompt and launch LYNX.....
..which would be very fast, by the way.
Art S.
Arthur Sowers
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, R. Martin wrote:
> Halpern wrote:
> >
> > Arthur Sowers wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 lamp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Art is not a troll. He sincerely believe in what he says.
> > >
> > > Thats OK. Josh Halpern thinks I'm a troll (and a lot of other
> > > things).
> >
> > No I believe you are an incubus.
> >
> > josh halpern
>
> incubus - 1. a spirit supposed to work evil on persons in their sleep
> 2. nightmare
> 3. a person or thing that oppresses or burdens like a
> nightmare
> 4. a warm mass transit vehicle used to hatch chickens
>
> I assume you're using the third definition.
^^^^^^
Art's 1st law of Real Life: Don't make assumptions (you could get into
deep trouble).
by the way....
Art's 2nd law of Real Life: Don't buy junk (get the better stuff; junk
just falls appart sooner and you'll be sorry)
Art's 3rd law of Real Life: Whatever the world runs on, its not brains.
Art's 4th law of Real Life: If anything can go wrong, it will (no
guarantees or warranties that this is original).
Art's two corrollaries of Art's 4th law: i) Things will get worse before
they will get better, ii) Who told you they will get better? (no
guarantees or warranties that this is original, either).
Those are the free "samplers."
Art
Halpern
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Halpern wrote:
> > Arthur Sowers wrote:
> > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 lamp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > > > Art is not a troll. He sincerely believe in what he says.
> > > Thats OK. Josh Halpern thinks I'm a troll (and a lot of other
> > > things).
> > No I believe you are an incubus.
> Oh? OK! Josh Halpern once thought I was a troll. Now, he "believes" I am
> an incubus.
>
> But....
> He didn't say anything about the "lot of other things," though.
Well, pick your poison, though not original with me, I enjoyed it
josh halpern.
PS to R. Martin. Four....definately four with nuts and whipped cream!!!!!!
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Subject: Types of Posters
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:54:06 -0400
From: "Scott D. Erb" <scot...@maine.edu>
Organization: University of Maine System/MSLN
We've all heard about "lurkers" who don't post but read posts, and "trolls"
who
post only to arouse a reaction. What about the others? Here's some ideas:
VENTERS: Venters post to vent. They are angry at people who think
differently
than they do, perhaps over a particular issue or the state of the nation.
This
is their chance to actually tell off others and be heard. They aren't
really
concerned with discussion, and if they can get the other side angry, they've
achieved their goal. They generally have a good perspective on this, they
know
this isn't serious stuff, mostly just fun, and if they get "flamed" back,
they
roll with it. They are close to trolls, but have more content and more of a
purpose.
PLAYFULL POSTERS: Playfull posters have a keen sense of perspective. They
realize that in the thousands of posts (tens of thousands) to newsgroups
every
day, none of these threads are really that important, and most posts don't
even
get read (especially if its a flame war or people who say the same things
over
and over). Playfull posters tend to goad people they disagree with, bring
in
humor, and treat this as a meaningless but fun distraction. They are able
to
avoid getting too upset or emotional because they realize that none of this
is
real world stuff.
PROVOCATEURS: Some like to provoke, but not just to vent. They want to
discuss ideas and issues, but to get heard and noticed, they'll be very
provocative, overstating a position, and exaggerating criticism of the other
side. They differ from trolls in that they are serious, and tend not to
delve
into pure flame wars as long as the other side responds to the provocation
without a pure flame. Provocateurs can be the most "successful" posters
online, getting noticed and responded to.
ZEALOTS: Zealots lack the sense of perspective that playful posters have.
They see this as dead serious business, they are involved in a propaganda
war
where they support the cause of truth and justice, while the other side is
evil
or causing the destruction of American society. They imagine very negative
personal traits to those they disagree with (since they see them as
promoting
evil), and have little sense of humor, unless its to mock someone they
disagree
with. They see this as a war, and believe their attacks can hurt others.
As
long as they stick with the newsgroups and don't take their zealotry into
the
real world, posting is for them therapeutic.
ARISTOCRATS: The Aristocrats are posters who try to stay aloof from flame
wars, and interject opinions now and then with an air of judgemental
certainty. The tend to come off as arrogant, and seem convinced that they
have
a superior view of what's happening than other posters out there. They tend
to
be very annoying, but that is part of what makes them effective.
EXPLORERS: Explorers post now and then, have no real purpose in that they
aren't emotionally connected to the issues or the topics, but are interested
in
what is going on and seeing what others think. They tend to shy away from
flame wars, and post infrequently, easily dropping a group if it gets
boring.
They are more detached, and usually have a sense of perspective.
STALKERS: Stalkers are posters who get obsessed with another poster,
and follow another poster around thread to thread or even between
newsgroups. (And, of course, if posters start obsessing on each other,
you can get a very long thread which has absolutely no content.)
BULLIES: Bullies differ from venters in that they really want to get
other people mad and attack others. They are driven by some kind of
need to cut down people whom they perceive as too arrogant or smug, or
people who they believe have a wrong ideology. Like Zealots, they tend
to imagine personality traits to opponents that are especially bad, but
unlike zealots their focus is personal attacks, rather than promoting a
position. Bullies often get a lot of response because people don't like
being personally attacked, but in this forum a sense of perspective
suggests the best response is to ignore them.
Arthur Sowers
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Halpern wrote:
> Arthur Sowers wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Halpern wrote:
> > > Arthur Sowers wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 lamp...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > > > > Art is not a troll. He sincerely believe in what he says.
> > > > Thats OK. Josh Halpern thinks I'm a troll (and a lot of other
> > > > things).
> > > No I believe you are an incubus.
> > Oh? OK! Josh Halpern once thought I was a troll. Now, he "believes" I am
> > an incubus.
> >
> > But....
> > He didn't say anything about the "lot of other things," though.
>
> Well, pick your poison, though not original with me, I enjoyed it
Yeah, me too. Stuff below is good too. Buuuuut, YOU (not me) are supposed
to pick MY poison.
> josh halpern.
>
> PS to R. Martin. Four....definately four with nuts and whipped cream!!!!!!
P.S. To josh, _MY_ idea along these lines is more like "Josh as the
coyotte, Art as the Roadrunner"
Art
(beep-beep, .... Vooooooooooom)
;-)
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Flavius Vespasian
> 0? 1? 2?
>
>Just curious.
>
I believe it is ONE. I think the national Oil company is there.
John - N8086N
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