Any Updates on Mark Morin?
George Orwell
Linda
George Orwell wrote:
> Does anyone have any news or updates about Mark Morin?
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.psychology.psychotherapy/msg/987b97d92acdb73f?dmode=source
hoofprints
I didn't think he would succeed on Appeal, but hey he did have the right
to an appeal.
So what did Squawk have to say about it this time?
Was it the jilted mixed up woman defense, or has she finally seen the
light and the error of her mentors ways??
Hoof
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Linda
hoofprints wrote:
> Linda wrote:
> >
> > George Orwell wrote:
> > > Does anyone have any news or updates about Mark Morin?
> >
> >
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.psychology.psychotherapy/msg/987b97d92acdb73f?dmode=source
>
>
> I didn't think he would succeed on Appeal, but hey he did have the
right
> to an appeal.
> So what did Squawk have to say about it this time?
As you can see for yourself, SPP's lying stalking filth posted no
replies to the person who posted the news to SPP on Mar. 22, 2005,
> Was it the jilted mixed up woman defense, or has she finally seen
the
> light and the error of her mentors ways??
What causes you to think they are her mentors rather than vice versa?
>From what I have seen, it's her sociopathy that's corrupted SPP and all
it's denizens all these years.
hoofprints
Linda wrote:
>
> hoofprints wrote:
> > Linda wrote:
> > >
> > > George Orwell wrote:
> > > > Does anyone have any news or updates about Mark Morin?
> > >
> > >
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.psychology.psychotherapy/msg/987b97d92acdb73f?dmode=source
> >
> >
> > I didn't think he would succeed on Appeal, but hey he did have the
> right
> > to an appeal.
> > So what did Squawk have to say about it this time?
>
> As you can see for yourself, SPP's lying stalking filth posted no
> replies to the person who posted the news to SPP on Mar. 22, 2005,
>
> > Was it the jilted mixed up woman defense, or has she finally seen
> the
> > light and the error of her mentors ways??
>
> What causes you to think they are her mentors rather than vice versa?
That wasn't meant to be plural, it was meant to be mentor's, as in MM
being her mentor.
She relied on MM for many things, and they were friends, he had his
Ph.D. and he posted to me once, that I would give my eye teeth to be
accepted into the same program that she was in psychology. ( these are
not verbatim his response to me before this stuff hit the fan). It has
been awhile but the post was made in some thread about child development
and he mentioned some professors that he had studied under. I believe
one of them was Piaget and since my computer has crashed so many times,
I don't have the name of the other renowned child psychologist who he
looked up too.
hoof
>
> >From what I have seen, it's her sociopathy that's corrupted SPP and all
> it's denizens all these years.
--
Linda
I bet your encounters with usenet's rogue's psychologists made you glad
you had chosen a career as a psych technician working alongside
psychiatrists, rather than a career in a field full of charlatans and
frauds.
It has
> been awhile but the post was made in some thread about child
development
> and he mentioned some professors that he had studied under. I
believe
> one of them was Piaget and since my computer has crashed so many
times,
> I don't have the name of the other renowned child psychologist who he
> looked up too.
hmmm
It seems to me that my college course work in psychology included
Piaget's theories.
And, I attended college 30 years ago.
It's possible, but highly unlikely that Morin would have studied under
Piaget 5 years ago.
FYI, all my college courses in psychology were taught by a professor
named Atwood.:)
Card XII
> Linda wrote:
...
>> >From what I have seen, it's her sociopathy that's corrupted SPP and all
>> it's denizens all these years.
>
You are such a putz, Linda. Now you say she is a sociopath, yesterday you
said she was a narcissist. Can't be both. They are mutually exclusive.
Well hell, the whole world is waiting for your definitive diagnosis, so
which is it?
Your's is easier:
Obnoxoid slut.
Luv ya, twatty-girl!!
Card XII
hoofprints
My career choice back then had more to do with housing, food and
clothing, then what I thought about this field.
Any classes in psych that I took later on in college had more to do with
meeting graduation requirements, and since those classes were in a field
that I where I was currently working, I took them. some of them were
used as continuing ed. units, and some out of curiosity of some theory
that was being proffered as new or better.
the truth is Linda, that 'most', not all, psychologists have more units
in psych then some medical doctors holding psychiatrist status.
>
> It has
> > been awhile but the post was made in some thread about child
> development
> > and he mentioned some professors that he had studied under. I
> believe
> > one of them was Piaget and since my computer has crashed so many
> times,
> > I don't have the name of the other renowned child psychologist who he
> > looked up too.
>
> hmmm
>
> It seems to me that my college course work in psychology included
> Piaget's theories.
>
> And, I attended college 30 years ago.
>
> It's possible, but highly unlikely that Morin would have studied under
> Piaget 5 years ago.
Morin made the claim, and at the time, I doubted him because I was
unaware of how old he was until he was arrested. His photo that was a
part of his sig line, was misleading that way. It showed him tossing
his cap in the air after graduating.
>
> FYI, all my college courses in psychology were taught by a professor
> named Atwood.:)
My classes in psych were taught at the jr. college level, so no notables
were teaching their theories of psych. However, if I had gone to
university level course work in psych., I would apply at Cal State
Sonoma as it is my understanding that their dept. ascribes to the
humanistic approach. ( Maslow)
Without Maslows hierarchy of needs being met, Piagets child development
scales couldn't exist. JMHO.
hoof
hoofprints
Why are you stating that they are mutually exclusive of one another
Danny??
A narcissist put their needs before anyone else's needs, and a sociopath
does the same.
So narcissist's can also be sociopaths.
hoof
>
> Card XII
+-
you have yet to explain your defending of bullis to me.
Linda
Card XII wrote:
> > Linda wrote:
> ...
>
> >> >From what I have seen, it's her sociopathy that's corrupted SPP
and all
> >> it's denizens all these years.
> >
> You are such a putz, Linda. Now you say she is a sociopath,
yesterday you
> said she was a narcissist. Can't be both. They are mutually
exclusive.
Says you.
Respected members of your profession have concluded otherwise.
According to them, narcissism is a less severe form of psychopathy.
Therefore, a socialized narcissist/psychopath like Kali is a
sociopath---to my way of thinking.
Linda
Card XII wrote:
>
> Obnoxoid slut.
>
I know you are.
And, your constant projection of your sluttiness onto me, a total
stranger, evidences you know people in your profession are referred to
as Whores of the Court.
http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume9/j9_1_br12.htm
Whores of the Court: The Fraud of Psychiatric Testimony and the Rape of
American Justice by Margaret A. Hagen
Linda
What good does that do, in a field founded on self-serving "beliefs"
rather than scientific evidence?
> > It has
> > > been awhile but the post was made in some thread about child
> > development
> > > and he mentioned some professors that he had studied under. I
> > believe
> > > one of them was Piaget and since my computer has crashed so many
> > times,
> > > I don't have the name of the other renowned child psychologist
who he
> > > looked up too.
> >
> > hmmm
> >
> > It seems to me that my college course work in psychology included
> > Piaget's theories.
> >
> > And, I attended college 30 years ago.
> >
> > It's possible, but highly unlikely that Morin would have studied
under
> > Piaget 5 years ago.
>
> Morin made the claim, and at the time, I doubted him because I was
> unaware of how old he was until he was arrested. His photo that was
a
> part of his sig line, was misleading that way. It showed him tossing
> his cap in the air after graduating.
Did you see the photo posted after his conviction?
It didn't look anything like the photo's he posted of himself.
>
> >
> > FYI, all my college courses in psychology were taught by a
professor
> > named Atwood.:)
>
> My classes in psych were taught at the jr. college level, so no
notables
> were teaching their theories of psych. However, if I had gone to
> university level course work in psych., I would apply at Cal State
> Sonoma as it is my understanding that their dept. ascribes to the
> humanistic approach. ( Maslow)
> Without Maslows hierarchy of needs being met, Piagets child
development
> scales couldn't exist. JMHO.
You obviously have an abiding interest in the field after 30 years of
working in it.
Perhaps, you should go get your masters and phd.
You have the I.Q.
You have the time.
If you don't have the $$$, I bet you could get a scholarship devoted
to older woman desiring second careers.
You will be three years older, in three years, anyway.
It's never too late.
Linda
Why would I explain anything to a Frogger who distorts my position?
hoofprints
Organic brain functioning vs. DSM IV dx. materials for one.
>
> > > It has
> > > > been awhile but the post was made in some thread about child
> > > development
> > > > and he mentioned some professors that he had studied under. I
> > > believe
> > > > one of them was Piaget and since my computer has crashed so many
> > > times,
> > > > I don't have the name of the other renowned child psychologist
> who he
> > > > looked up too.
> > >
> > > hmmm
> > >
> > > It seems to me that my college course work in psychology included
> > > Piaget's theories.
> > >
> > > And, I attended college 30 years ago.
> > >
> > > It's possible, but highly unlikely that Morin would have studied
> under
> > > Piaget 5 years ago.
> >
> > Morin made the claim, and at the time, I doubted him because I was
> > unaware of how old he was until he was arrested. His photo that was
> a
> > part of his sig line, was misleading that way. It showed him tossing
> > his cap in the air after graduating.
>
> Did you see the photo posted after his conviction?
No, I was posting in here prior to 2k2, and saw it around 4 yrs ago.
>
> It didn't look anything like the photo's he posted of himself.
The latest photo I saw posted was around the time of his arrest and
conviction, I don't recall when, but he was in his 40's and his sig line
photo prior looked like he was in his 20's.
>
> >
> > >
> > > FYI, all my college courses in psychology were taught by a
> professor
> > > named Atwood.:)
> >
> > My classes in psych were taught at the jr. college level, so no
> notables
> > were teaching their theories of psych. However, if I had gone to
> > university level course work in psych., I would apply at Cal State
> > Sonoma as it is my understanding that their dept. ascribes to the
> > humanistic approach. ( Maslow)
> > Without Maslows hierarchy of needs being met, Piagets child
> development
> > scales couldn't exist. JMHO.
>
> You obviously have an abiding interest in the field after 30 years of
> working in it.
>
> Perhaps, you should go get your masters and phd.
No thank you, it is not a pleasant field to work in, too damn depressing
and volatile.
>
> You have the I.Q.
>
> You have the time.
>
> If you don't have the $$$, I bet you could get a scholarship devoted
> to older woman desiring second careers.
>
> You will be three years older, in three years, anyway.
>
> It's never too late.
I'd rather be a divorce lawyer then a psych
Indomi...@netzero.com
hoofprints wrote:
> Linda wrote:
> > > the truth is Linda, that 'most', not all, psychologists have
more
> > units
> > > in psych then some medical doctors holding psychiatrist status.
> >
> > What good does that do, in a field founded on self-serving
"beliefs"
> > rather than scientific evidence?
>
> Organic brain functioning vs. DSM IV dx. materials for one.
I am not certain what you mean by "organic brain functioning".
I have an physiological condition that effects my brain functioning.
But, I see medical doctors about it because they treat a large number
of thyroid patients and know what's attributable to thyroid disease vs.
what isn't.
Maybe it was the youth of the first picture--vs the second...as I
didn't think the second picture was of the same person that first
picture had been.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > FYI, all my college courses in psychology were taught by a
> > professor
> > > > named Atwood.:)
> > >
> > > My classes in psych were taught at the jr. college level, so no
> > notables
> > > were teaching their theories of psych. However, if I had gone to
> > > university level course work in psych., I would apply at Cal
State
> > > Sonoma as it is my understanding that their dept. ascribes to the
> > > humanistic approach. ( Maslow)
> > > Without Maslows hierarchy of needs being met, Piagets child
> > development
> > > scales couldn't exist. JMHO.
> >
> > You obviously have an abiding interest in the field after 30 years
of
> > working in it.
> >
> > Perhaps, you should go get your masters and phd.
>
> No thank you, it is not a pleasant field to work in, too damn
depressing
> and volatile.
>
yeah, it's gotta be rough on anyone who cares.
> >
> > You have the I.Q.
> >
> > You have the time.
> >
> > If you don't have the $$$, I bet you could get a scholarship
devoted
> > to older woman desiring second careers.
> >
> > You will be three years older, in three years, anyway.
> >
> > It's never too late.
>
> I'd rather be a divorce lawyer then a psych
And, that wouldn't be volatile and depressing? :)
Kali
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, posted 31 Mar 2005 20:16:41 -
0800, Linda adinl...@aol.com says...
>
>Card XII wrote:
>> > Linda wrote:
>> ...
>>
>> >> >From what I have seen, it's her sociopathy that's corrupted SPP
>and all
>> >> it's denizens all these years.
>> >
>> You are such a putz, Linda. Now you say she is a sociopath,
>yesterday you
>> said she was a narcissist. Can't be both. They are mutually
>exclusive.
>
>
>Says you.
>
>Respected members of your profession have concluded otherwise.
>
>According to them, narcissism is a less severe form of psychopathy.
Do you have any evidence to back up the claim that 'narcissism
is a less severe form of psychopathy'? Who is the researcher,
where was the article published, that sort of thing. Otherwise
you're FOS.
Do you have any knowledge of psychology or criminology at all?
The term psychopathy has special meaning and the condition has
been distinguished from personality disorders. It should not be
confused with anti-social personality disorder.
>Therefore, a socialized narcissist/psychopath like Kali is a
>sociopath---to my way of thinking.
You don't even know what one is. Sociopath is no more than a
common insult, not a diagnosis. A "socialized narcissist"? Are
you kidding?
Not that I don't appreciate your effort to post on topic for
once in your trolling of spp.
Kali
--
"But I don't want to go among mad people,'
Alice remarked. Oh, you can't help that,'
said the Cat, we're all mad here. I'm mad.
You're mad." -Lewis Carroll
Kali
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, posted 31 Mar 2005 23:42:20 -
0800, Linda adinl...@aol.com says...
>
Here we have the classic IKYABWAI (not even an attempt to cover
it up or make a joke of it), followed by the typical PKB. And
then, in true kook fashion, you try to lend credence to your
impotent invective by posting a link to something that is
completely irrelevant.
I don't know if you're a slut, but you sure are obnoxious. And
stupid, too.
+-
Listen bitch,
Bullis is a likely pedophile whom YOU have defended, all I asked is why you
defend such a scumbag. The problem with you is your lack of an answer.
Frogger that you strumpet of the amd
Indomi...@netzero.com
A lie is a lie no matter how many times you repeat it.
Persons objecting to the criminal activities the SPP stalkers engage in
are NOT, nor will they ever be defending any of the SPP stalkers crime
victims.
Persons objective to the criminal activities the SPP stalkers engage
are only objecting to the crimes of the SPP stalkers.
Alleging another person is committing a crime is NOT an affirmative
defense to the SPP stalkers committing a crime.
Two wrongs don't make a right, and they never have and never will.
So, if you seeking social acceptance for a criminal ring engaging in
criminal activity against others, anytime the criminal ring "says"
another person is a nogood SOB...you have come to the wrong place.
Indomi...@netzero.com
Profiler wrote:
> Indomi...@netzero.com wrote:
>
> >> Organic brain functioning vs. DSM IV dx. materials for one.
> >
> > I am not certain what you mean by "organic brain functioning".
> >
> > I have an physiological condition that effects my brain
functioning.
> >
>
More ambient abuse and gaslighting by usenet Doktors endeavoring to
cover up the wrongdoing of their peers?
Indomi...@netzero.com
Profiler wrote:
> Indomi...@netzero.com wrote:
>
> > Two wrongs don't make a
right, and they never have and never will.
>
>
> --
The SPP stalkers cannot defend their aggression against me based upon
their confabulations about me or my life.
Indomi...@netzero.com
Kali wrote:
> In article <1112329001.883406.29520
> @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, posted 31 Mar 2005 20:16:41 -
> 0800, Linda adinl...@aol.com says...
>
> >
> >Card XII wrote:
> >> > Linda wrote:
> >> ...
> >>
> >> >> >From what I have seen, it's her sociopathy that's corrupted
SPP
> >and all
> >> >> it's denizens all these years.
> >> >
> >> You are such a putz, Linda. Now you say she is a sociopath,
> >yesterday you
> >> said she was a narcissist. Can't be both. They are mutually
> >exclusive.
> >
> >
> >Says you.
> >
> >Respected members of your profession have concluded otherwise.
> >
> >According to them, narcissism is a less severe form of psychopathy.
>
> Do you have any evidence to back up the claim that 'narcissism
> is a less severe form of psychopathy'? Who is the researcher,
> where was the article published, that sort of thing. Otherwise
> you're FOS.
I can't recall.
I suspect it was Chekley-(Mask of Sanity) Rather than "Hare"
(Psychopaths amongst us).
Indomi...@netzero.com
The problem with psychiatric diagnoses is..
that they are swung as semantic blackjacks:
cracking the subject's dignity and respectability
destroys him just as effectively as cracking his
skull.
The difference is that the man who wields a blackjack
is recognized by everyone as a thug, but one who wields
a psychiatric diagnosis is not."
Thomas Szasz, M.D., 1991
Indomi...@netzero.com
Listen, prick...
Objecting to the SPP stalkers criminal harassment of a person is NOT
the equivalent of defending the target.
The SPP stalkers criminal harassment of others includes stripping them
of their anonymity, posting all their personal information to inicte
fear for their personal and financial safety, posting libelous lies
and false accusations without a shred of evidence, morally harassing
them for years to erode their personal identity, all while attempting
to brainwash them into copping to mental illness the target doesn't
have, so the the sociopathic stalkers can maintain the delusion that
their aggression is altruistic rather than sadistic and psychopathic
behavior it is.
Furthermore, the underlying motive of teh SPP stalkers criminal
harassment of people, is one and the same as the underlying motive of
child molestation.
Both the SPP stalkers and child molester are power tripping on their
possessing the capacity to destroy other human beings.
So---stop feigning righteous aggression as an excuse to do the same
things child molseters do, destroy another human being.
If sociopathic stalkers are seeking approval to engage in aggression
whose underlying motive is one and the same as child molestewrs---they
best look to someone other than me for approval.
Stalking filth and child molesters are equally disgusting human beings.
Nomen Nescio
wrote:
> Bullis is a likely pedophile whom YOU have defended
Hey +- , Why is it you are concerned about people maybe 'being friends'
with
"likely pedophiles" (who have never been convicted), while you show
NO CONCERN for all the sppm moderators who ARE both FRIENDS AND
IRRATIONAL DEFENDERS of an actual convicted and sentenced child
molester, Mark Morin (another sppm moderator).
And, how about the closer relationship of the AUK-tards and the
CONVICTED CHILD MOLESTER, Gary Lee Burnore.
Why are these friendships with actual, real, convicted child molesters
not a matter of your concern, moron?
Indomi...@netzero.com
Kali wrote:
> In article <1112341340.112892.29130
> @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, posted 31 Mar 2005 23:42:20 -
> 0800, Linda adinl...@aol.com says...
>
> >
> >Card XII wrote:
> >>
> >> Obnoxoid slut.
> >>
> >
> >I know you are.
> >
> >And, your constant projection of your sluttiness onto me, a total
> >stranger, evidences you know people in your profession are referred
to
> >as Whores of the Court.
> >
> >http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume9/j9_1_br12.htm
> >
> >Whores of the Court: The Fraud of Psychiatric Testimony and the Rape
of
> >American Justice by Margaret A. Hagen
>
> Here we have the classic IKYABWAI (not even an attempt to cover
> it up or make a joke of it), followed by the typical PKB. And
> then, in true kook fashion, you try to lend credence to your
> impotent invective by posting a link to something that is
> completely irrelevant.
Wrong, Kali.
What we have here is a licensed psychologist calling total strangers
sluts every chance he gets.
Since they are total strangers, his calling them sluts can only be
self-revelatory.
Knowing that forensic psychologists are viewed as whores of the
court---allows one to theorize that his calling strangers sluts is a
projection of his own feelings about himself onto strangers.
duh!
Kali
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, posted 2 Apr 2005 06:34:17 -
0800, Indomi...@netzero.com says...
>BTW, go to hell!
>
>
> The problem with psychiatric diagnoses is..
> that they are swung as semantic blackjacks:
Is that why you're so fond of diagnosing people?
> cracking the subject's dignity and respectability
> destroys him just as effectively as cracking his
> skull.
That's what your real issue is, isn't it?
You're holding a grudge against someone who diagnosed you. That
would seem to explain why you are obsessed with psychologists.
> The difference is that the man who wields a blackjack
> is recognized by everyone as a thug, but one who wields
> a psychiatric diagnosis is not."
>
> Thomas Szasz, M.D., 1991
Kali
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, posted 2 Apr 2005 04:33:10 -
0800, Indomi...@netzero.com says...
Maybe you were mistaken.
>I suspect it was Chekley-(Mask of Sanity) Rather than "Hare"
>(Psychopaths amongst us).
Sorry - I've read both and I have engaged in seminars and
formal course work in criminal psychology and psychopathology,
and what you are saying is simply not supported by the
evidence. I believe it is possible for them to co-exist in an
individual, but there is absolutely no evidence - none - that
narcissism is a less severe form of psychopathy.
Not only do you lie, but you pretend to know things you do not
know, and you are brazen enough to try to pull it off with
people who know more than you do about it.
Indomi...@netzero.com
I doubt it.
The theme of the moral support group on MSN for targets of narcissists
is that Narcissism is a less severe form of psychopathy.
>
> >I suspect it was Chekley-(Mask of Sanity) Rather than "Hare"
> >(Psychopaths amongst us).
>
> Sorry - I've read both
Proof?
>and I have engaged in seminars
Proof?
and
> formal course work in criminal psychology and psychopathology,
proof?
> and what you are saying is simply not supported by the
> evidence.
Sorry, but I don't place any credence in the self-serving opinions of
a professional student aka bum whose claim to fame is her sociopathy.
I possess extensive knowledge about psychopaths and narcissists as a
result of my personal acquaintance with so called psychopaths and
narcissists, and as a result of having read all the works of persons
who have devoted their life to study of psychopaths and narcissists.
I agree with the theorists who assert that NPD is a less severe form of
psychopathy.
The main reason I agree with the theory that NPD is a lesser form of
psychopathy, is because Narcissists aren't unable; Narcissists are
UNWILLING to view others as autonomous human beings, possessed of their
own agency, rather than as objects for the narcissists use and abuse.
snip --- Barnard the Bum's grandiose prattle.
Ryan Lankford, Libertarian Warrior
>Sorry, but I don't place any credence in the self-serving opinions of
>a professional student aka bum whose claim to fame is her sociopathy.
What do you do for a living again? Oh yeah, that's right; you collect
a government check. You have no room to call *anyone* a bum.
>I possess extensive knowledge about psychopaths and narcissists as a
>result of my personal acquaintance with so called psychopaths and
>narcissists, and as a result of having read all the works of persons
>who have devoted their life to study of psychopaths and narcissists.
>
>I agree with the theorists who assert that NPD is a less severe form of
>psychopathy.
>
>The main reason I agree with the theory that NPD is a lesser form of
>psychopathy, is because
it supports your delusions. Gotcha.
Indomi...@netzero.com
Profiler wrote:
> Indomi...@netzero.com wrote:
>
> > BTW, go to hell!
> >
>
> It would seem that you do have enough
> sanity to yet recover fully.
>
Recover from what?
I am neither diagnosed, nor being treated for any mental illness.
Therefore, there is nothing to recover from.
The only thing that the lying SPP stalking filth accomplished by their
successfully recruiting Peter J. Ross and the AUK stalking filth to
engage in aggression against me is to energize me into creating a
website which documents what filthy liars the extremely narcissistic
and/or psychopathic lying stalking filth all are.
I already have several pages complete.
What do you think of the title "The World's Second Most Famous Blow
Job" for the web page containing the letters and Fax's regarding
Jeffrey Thorpe's alleged blow job in the park?
Kimberly Barnards non-stop lying and threatening of people is such that
I will have to create several webpages if I hope to document all her
filthy lies and baseless claims about all her many targets.
And, I will include your bullshit posts in a webpage devoted to
unethical "professionals" attempting to win flame wars by invalidating
their ideological opponent by libeling them as having fictitious mental
illness,
replete with DSM labels, and, on occasion multiaxial diagnosis.
The lying SPP stalking filth and their army of supporters, appeaser,
apologists, and deniers will NEVER succeed in their efforts to have me
cop to mental illness I don't have because I dare to post about the SPP
stalkers non-stop lying, criminal harassment, and their playing
dirty pool with mentally vulnernable persons life and liberty on the
mental health support groups.
Indomi...@netzero.com
Profiler wrote:
> Indomi...@netzero.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Profiler wrote:
> >> Indomi...@netzero.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > BTW, go to hell!
> >> >
> >>
> >> It would seem that you do have enough
> >> sanity to yet recover fully.
> >>
> >
> > Recover from what?
> >
> > I am neither diagnosed, nor being treated for any mental illness.
> >
>
Yes and No, Liceman.
The medical clinic treating my thyroid condition was badly hit by the
medical crisis in Nevada at the time owing to the medical malpractice
insurers pulling out of the state all at once.
The clinic was scrambling for doctors to stay afloat.
Everytime I called for an appointment with *my* doctor---the doctor was
no longer there.
Unbeknowst to me, each of the three doctors who saw me for my 6 month
thyroid check up in 2000 and 2001, had quit the practice before my
laboratory tests come back.
Nobody from the clinic called me and my pharmacist, as they weere
supposed to--if the test results indicated a change in dose was
necessary because all the tests showing I was extremly hypothyroid had
all gotten filed UNREAD.
Since the medical clinic behaved as if all was fine wrt thyroid---I
believed my problem may be psychiatric.
I went to a psychiatrist, but he evaluated me and said, NO, all my
symptoms were attributable to hypot...I argued with him since I was
regularly tested for thyroid disorder, and, the medical clinic had
behaved in a manner suggested everything was AOK...but, he said--no my
problem was thyroid and referred me back to the medical clinic.
Wt the clinic, I had yet another doctor, the fourth one in two years,
and I told him that I wasn't well and I had gone to see a pdoc who
INSISTED my symptoms were those of hypothyroidism.
the new doctor got my records, and read all the test results for the
period of time in question and said flat out, "You have been being
inadequately treated for your thyroid disease."
Hence, all the posts I wrote during the period of time that I believed
I was euthroid, but was actualy hypothyroid,that contained all my
speculating or self diagnosing myself were true in the sense I believed
what I was saying, but, were not true because what I believed was all
based on the FALSE belief that my thyroid condition was being
adequately treated.
Nowadays, I get my test results sent to me AND my doctors.
Card XII
<Indomi...@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:1112510054.6...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Profiler wrote:
>> Indomi...@netzero.com wrote:
>>
>> > BTW, go to hell!
>> >
>>
>> It would seem that you do have enough
>> sanity to yet recover fully.
>>
>
> Recover from what?
>
> I am neither diagnosed, nor being treated for any mental illness.
You said that you are. Posted it yourself. Several different things.
Lately, it has been your claim that you suffer from depression that results
from Hashimoto's disease.
Kali
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, posted 2 Apr 2005 20:45:59 -
0800, Indomi...@netzero.com says...
>
>Kali wrote:
>> In article <1112445190.781417.5190
>> @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, posted 2 Apr 2005 04:33:10 -
>> 0800, Indomi...@netzero.com says...
snip
>> >> Do you have any evidence to back up the claim that 'narcissism
>> >> is a less severe form of psychopathy'? Who is the researcher,
>> >> where was the article published, that sort of thing. Otherwise
>> >> you're FOS.
>> >
>> >I can't recall.
>>
>> Maybe you were mistaken.
>
>I doubt it.
I am certain of it.
>The theme of the moral support group on MSN for targets of narcissists
>is that Narcissism is a less severe form of psychopathy.
Not Cleckley, then?
>> >I suspect it was Chekley-(Mask of Sanity) Rather than "Hare"
>> >(Psychopaths amongst us).
Or was it something you read on the internet that was put there
by someone as ignorant as yourself?
>> Sorry - I've read both
>
>Proof?
>
>>and I have engaged in seminars
>
>Proof?
>
>and
>> formal course work in criminal psychology and psychopathology,
>
>proof?
The onus of proof is on you. Your citation is worthless.
>> and what you are saying is simply not supported by the
>> evidence.
>
>Sorry, but I don't place any credence in the self-serving opinions of
>a professional student aka bum whose claim to fame is her sociopathy.
You choose to follow along on your fool's errand.
>I possess extensive knowledge about psychopaths and narcissists as a
>result of my personal acquaintance with so called psychopaths and
>narcissists, and as a result of having read all the works of persons
>who have devoted their life to study of psychopaths and narcissists.
Cleckley and Hare do not agree with you.
>I agree with the theorists who assert that NPD is a less severe form of
>psychopathy.
You haven't cited a theorist, you've cited something that
someone else like you made into a support group mantra.
Did you happen to notice the "sci" in the newsgroup name here?
>The main reason I agree with the theory that NPD is a lesser form of
>psychopathy, is because Narcissists aren't unable; Narcissists are
>UNWILLING to view others as autonomous human beings, possessed of their
>own agency, rather than as objects for the narcissists use and abuse.
This mapping breaks down in a couple of crucial places and
doesn't even begin to address the comparison.
>snip --- Barnard the Bum's grandiose prattle.
There is absolutely no evidence -none- that
narcissism or narcissistic personality disorder are less severe
forms of psychopathy. I asked you to provide evidence to back
up your claim. There isn't any. What someone in a support group
on the net claims is not evidence.
Not only do you lie, but you pretend to know things you do not
know, and you are brazen enough to try to pull it off with
people who know more than you do about it. When asked to back
up your claims with evidence, you refuse to do so.
Kali
Sat, 02 Apr 2005 23:47:39 -0600, Ryan Lankford, Libertarian
Warrior lank...@NOSPAMnewsguy.comNOSPAM says...
>On 2 Apr 2005 20:45:59 -0800, Indomi...@netzero.com wrote:
>
>
>>Sorry, but I don't place any credence in the self-serving opinions of
>>a professional student aka bum whose claim to fame is her sociopathy.
>
>What do you do for a living again? Oh yeah, that's right; you collect
>a government check. You have no room to call *anyone* a bum.
Harassing psychologists and mentally ill people on the net is
her claim to fame.
>>I possess extensive knowledge about psychopaths and narcissists as a
>>result of my personal acquaintance with so called psychopaths and
>>narcissists, and as a result of having read all the works of persons
>>who have devoted their life to study of psychopaths and narcissists.
>>
>>I agree with the theorists who assert that NPD is a less severe form of
>>psychopathy.
>>
>>The main reason I agree with the theory that NPD is a lesser form of
>>psychopathy, is because
>
>it supports your delusions. Gotcha.
Yeah, and she read it on the net, so it must be true.
ThePsyko
made their contribution to mankind by stating in
news:1112503559.4...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Proof?
--
/(bb|[^b]{2})/ that is the Question
ThePsyko
Public Enemy #7
http://prozac.iscool.net
ThePsyko
>
> Profiler wrote:
>> Indomi...@netzero.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Profiler wrote:
>> >> Indomi...@netzero.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > BTW, go to hell!
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> It would seem that you do have enough
>> >> sanity to yet recover fully.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Recover from what?
>> >
>> > I am neither diagnosed, nor being treated for any mental illness.
>> >
>>
>> Then your postings regarding such are untrue?
>
> Yes and No, Liceman.
>
> The medical clinic treating my thyroid condition was badly hit by the
> medical crisis in Nevada at the time owing to the medical malpractice
> insurers pulling out of the state all at once.
>
Oh really.. and what year was this?
Indomi...@netzero.com
The state of Nevada medical crisis began brewing in the late 90's.
By 2000, the medical community was in the state of crisis because the
malpractice companies got rate increases that made malpractice
insurance unaffordable to a significant number of medical doctors with
less profitable practices and specialties.
By 2001, the crisis worsened owing to major malpractice insurance
announcing they would no longer renew or issue malpractice insurance to
Nevada doctors and were pulling out of state, altogether.
The medical crisis in Nevada peaked in the spring or summer of 2002
when the doctors in charge of the UMC trauma center closed the states
only trauma center because it could no longer staff the trauma center
with qualified doctors.
In July 2002, the governor of the state of Nevada called for a special
session of the legislature owing to "The inability of Nevada's
doctors to obtain reasonable malpractice insurance rates is
...endangering the ability of our hospitals to operate with full
services," Gov. Guinn said.
The crisis ended when the legislature in the The State of Nevada voted
to provide medical malpractice insurance to any Nevada Doctor who
couldn't get insurance.
Of course, the crisis was probably an orchestrated one to get the
legislature to put caps on malpractice suits...
But, the exorbitant rate increases in malpractice insurance in
1999-2000, followed by the refusal to insure doctors in Nevada at all
in 2001 and 2002, created a crisis in Nevada medical community from
2000 to 2002 that negatively impacted medical care of citizens like
yours truly.
Indomi...@netzero.com
Card XII wrote:
> <Indomi...@netzero.com> wrote in message
> news:1112510054.6...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Profiler wrote:
> >> Indomi...@netzero.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > BTW, go to hell!
> >> >
> >>
> >> It would seem that you do have enough
> >> sanity to yet recover fully.
> >>
> >
> > Recover from what?
> >
> > I am neither diagnosed, nor being treated for any mental illness.
>
> You said that you are.
By repeatedly stating that I am NOT diagnosed with, nor being treated
for any mental illness? :)
> Posted it yourself.
In all the posts where I repeatedly stated I am not diagnosed with,
nor being treated for any mental illness? :)
Several different things.
> Lately, it has been your claim that you suffer from depression that
results
> from Hashimoto's disease.
Duh!
Those are symptoms of my thyroid disease, which the DSM specifically
precludes assholes like you from diagnosing as mental illness.
So, quit LIBELING me...
Ryan Lankford, Libertarian Warrior
Where did anyone say they were "diagnosing" you? All I see is
constitutionally protected opinion.
Indomi...@netzero.com
You are supportive of criminal harassment of me by persons like the
following:
Pablo---mental patient who "says" he is a therapist, engaging in and
inspiring other mentally ill people to engage in illegal activities
against other participants of support groups.
Deborah Bentley, 30 plus year mental patient, bipolar disorder,
inadequately treated for her malady despite taking a cocktail of up to
6 medications daily, probably cause there is not treatment for her
madness cause of the psychopathy that underlies it.
LostboyinNC, 8 year mental patient, formally diagnosed with ASPD,
NPD, depression with psychotic features.
Peter V'yllkers, mental patient, filthy little liar
Lynda Cunningham, alleged ex-stripper, self-confessed alchoholic, 25
year plus mentally ill bipolar who rejects all drug treatment for her
mental disease after 25 years of drug therapy, insulin shock
treatments, did nothing to relieve her symptoms.
Mark Morin, mental patient, convicted child molester
George of the Jungle, mental patient, filthy little liar, tall tale
teller.
Jo Cohen, life long mental patient, BANNED from the TSA, despite
being on Anti-psychotics, owing to her self-serving, skewed and
non-factual views, then, permitted to participate under SUPERVISION
of mentally well people.
Kimberly Barnard, mental patient--DID, filthy little liar,
sociopathic stalker, criminal harasser.
Liceman, apparent untreated mental illness severe axis I OCD, a
cluster B personality disorder and, lord knows what else..
Dan Rogers, posts posts evidencing either undiagnosed and untreated
Psychosis, or, MDBP, or ???
Having noted Ryan Lankford runs with denizens of usenet with
psychiatric and criminal histories---I, layman, have concluded that
it's hightly likely that Ryan Lankford is suffering the same or
similiar mental illnesses and sociopathy as the persons Ryan chooses to
run with.
My concluding that Ryan lankford's running with people with psychiatric
and criminal histories indicates he's a NUTJOB---means didly squat
because I am a layperson, not a professional whom a state licensing
agency has empowered me to diagnose mental illness.
The same is not true where persons LICENSED by state agencies, which
empower them to diagnose mental illness in the populace, troll the WWW
and, engage in aggressive activities to usher in a subculture of
stalking, harassment and defamation, where licensed professionals
post hundreds and thousands of posts diagnosing as mentally ill all
those who express any dissent to the illegal activites the
professionals are engaging in to control the flow of information on the
www.
because the professionals are licensed by state licensing agencies and
empowered to diagnose mental illness in the populace.
The authority "professionals" have to diagnose mental illness in
members of the citzery is invested in them by state licensing agencies.
Usenet's state licensed professionals have been unethically and
unlawfully making a mockery of constitution and the bill of rights, by
thier misusing the power invested in them by the state, to intimidate
the populace into posting only what is pleasing to the MHPs, by the
MHP's defaming citizens as mentally ill who post any opinions, views,
beliefs or fact displeasing to state licensed MHP's.
Indomi...@netzero.com
Peter V'ylliki wrote:
> Indomi...@netzero.com wrote in news:1112583164.458800.117470
> @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> <http://tinyurl.com/4ujag>
It's hardly uncommon for mentally ill people like "Peter" to assert the
mentally well are the one's who are insane.
Peter V was amongst the MENTAL PATIENTS who posted all manner of filthy
lies to support Pablo and Mark Morin's posting of lies that Andrew had
"untreated mental illness".
Andrew did finally agree to a psych exam, where he was found to have
NO mental illness.
Peter, Pablo and the gang hve been falsely depicting me as having
mental illness ever since.
The professionals engage in ILLEGAL activities to stalk andrew into
real life.
Then, the professionals, attempt to scapegoat one of their victims on
the support group for what the professionals did, WHILE, libeling the
scapegoat as having untreated mental illness to try to invalidate and
discredit the designated fall guy.
Might have worked, IF the professionals hadn't been stalking Andrew
all over usent and in his real life for months before I even
encountered him in ASD-med, and many many months before my falling out
with him, AND, if I really had a mental illness.
But, the professionals were stalking andrew on usenet and into his real
life months before I encountered him, and, I am not diagnosed with,
nor being treated with any mental illness...
Nearly all the persons criminally harassing me are---though!
Card XII
<Indomi...@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:1112576176.4...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>> > BTW, go to hell!
...>
> By repeatedly stating that I am NOT diagnosed with, nor being treated
> for any mental illness? :)
>
>> Posted it yourself.
>
> In all the posts where I repeatedly stated I am not diagnosed with,
> nor being treated for any mental illness? :)
>
>
> Several different things.
>> Lately, it has been your claim that you suffer from depression that
> results
>> from Hashimoto's disease.
>
> Those are symptoms of my thyroid disease, which the DSM specifically
> precludes assholes like you from diagnosing as mental illness.
>
> So, quit LIBELING me...
Boy, are you ever wrong! Mental illnesses due to thyroid dysfunction could,
per DSM, include: Delirium due to thyroid disease; Personality disorder due
to thyroid disease; Mood disorder (or depression) due to thyroid disease;
Impulse control disorder due to thyroid disease.
Those are all "mental illness." I am not saying that you suffer from any of
those, only that you are incorrect.
You are also incorrect in your use of the term "libel."
You are also a moron. Put your foil beanie back on!
Card XII
Stalking Filth #12
Card XII
<Indomi...@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:1112586526....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> It's hardly uncommon for mentally ill people like "Peter" to assert the
> mentally well are the one's who are insane.
>
> Peter V was amongst the MENTAL PATIENTS who posted all manner of filthy
> lies to support Pablo and Mark Morin's posting of lies that Andrew had
> "untreated mental illness".
>
> Andrew did finally agree to a psych exam, where he was found to have
> NO mental illness.
>
> Peter, Pablo and the gang hve been falsely depicting me as having
> mental illness ever since.
>
> The professionals engage in ILLEGAL activities to stalk andrew into
> real life.
>
> Then, the professionals, attempt to scapegoat one of their victims on
> the support group for what the professionals did, WHILE, libeling the
> scapegoat as having untreated mental illness to try to invalidate and
> discredit the designated fall guy.
>
> Might have worked, IF the professionals hadn't been stalking Andrew
> all over usent and in his real life for months before I even
> encountered him in ASD-med, and many many months before my falling out
> with him, AND, if I really had a mental illness.
>
> But, the professionals were stalking andrew on usenet and into his real
> life months before I encountered him, and, I am not diagnosed with,
> nor being treated with any mental illness...
>
> Nearly all the persons criminally harassing me are---though!
This post scares the heck out of me. Just look at the style: does it mean
that Linda and brad have bred? Was this posted by their spawn?
Run!! RUN!!!
Card XII
Ryan Lankford, Libertarian Warrior
>
>Ryan Lankford, Libertarian Warrior wrote:
>> On 3 Apr 2005 17:56:16 -0700, Indomi...@netzero.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Where did anyone say they were "diagnosing" you? All I see is
>> constitutionally protected opinion.
>
>You are supportive of criminal harassment of me by persons like the
>following:
You're lying again, Linda...I haven't even heard of half of the people
you've mentioned below.
>Pablo---mental patient who "says" he is a therapist, engaging in and
>inspiring other mentally ill people to engage in illegal activities
>against other participants of support groups.
I've heard of Pablo.
>Deborah Bentley, 30 plus year mental patient, bipolar disorder,
>inadequately treated for her malady despite taking a cocktail of up to
>6 medications daily, probably cause there is not treatment for her
>madness cause of the psychopathy that underlies it.
Never heard of Deborah.
>LostboyinNC, 8 year mental patient, formally diagnosed with ASPD,
>NPD, depression with psychotic features.
Never heard of this guy.
>Peter V'yllkers, mental patient, filthy little liar
Just read one of his posts for the first time a few seconds ago; not
enough info for me to give an opinion.
>Lynda Cunningham, alleged ex-stripper, self-confessed alchoholic, 25
>year plus mentally ill bipolar who rejects all drug treatment for her
>mental disease after 25 years of drug therapy, insulin shock
>treatments, did nothing to relieve her symptoms.
Never heard of Lynda.
>Mark Morin, mental patient, convicted child molester
I've heard of Morin, but never posted to him. Either way, I don't
know enough about Dr. Morin to form an opinion.
>George of the Jungle, mental patient, filthy little liar, tall tale
>teller.
Never heard of George.
>Jo Cohen, life long mental patient, BANNED from the TSA, despite
>being on Anti-psychotics, owing to her self-serving, skewed and
>non-factual views, then, permitted to participate under SUPERVISION
>of mentally well people.
Never heard of Jo.
>Kimberly Barnard, mental patient--DID, filthy little liar,
>sociopathic stalker, criminal harasser.
I know of Kali; she's good people. You just hate her because she's
critical of your posts.
>Liceman, apparent untreated mental illness severe axis I OCD, a
>cluster B personality disorder and, lord knows what else..
Who's "Liceman?"
>Dan Rogers, posts posts evidencing either undiagnosed and untreated
>Psychosis, or, MDBP, or ???
Dr. Dan lives up I-35 from me. He's good people, too.
>Having noted Ryan Lankford runs with denizens of usenet with
>psychiatric and criminal histories---
Most of your notes are erroneous, as I've just demonstrated.
>I, layman, have concluded that
>it's hightly likely that Ryan Lankford is suffering the same or
>similiar mental illnesses and sociopathy as the persons Ryan chooses to
>run with.
>
>My concluding that Ryan lankford's running with people with psychiatric
>and criminal histories indicates he's a NUTJOB---means didly squat
>because I am a layperson, not a professional whom a state licensing
>agency has empowered me to diagnose mental illness.
Exactly...your word means exactly dick. Now you're catching on,
Linda.
>The same is not true where persons LICENSED by state agencies, which
>empower them to diagnose mental illness in the populace, troll the WWW
>and, engage in aggressive activities to usher in a subculture of
>stalking, harassment and defamation, where licensed professionals
>post hundreds and thousands of posts diagnosing as mentally ill all
>those who express any dissent to the illegal activites the
>professionals are engaging in to control the flow of information on the
>www.
Gee, maybe you should file suit or press charges...but you won't,
because you're too cowardly to put any walk behind your talk.
>because the professionals are licensed by state licensing agencies and
>empowered to diagnose mental illness in the populace.
>
>The authority "professionals" have to diagnose mental illness in
>members of the citzery is invested in them by state licensing agencies.
>
>Usenet's state licensed professionals have been unethically and
>unlawfully making a mockery of constitution and the bill of rights, by
>thier misusing the power invested in them by the state, to intimidate
>the populace into posting only what is pleasing to the MHPs, by the
>MHP's defaming citizens as mentally ill who post any opinions, views,
>beliefs or fact displeasing to state licensed MHP's.
People making fun of you has nothing to do with our Constitution.
Please cite exactly what "rights" are being denied to you due to being
pointed at and laughed at on Usenet.
Indomi...@netzero.com
Card XII wrote:
> <Indomi...@netzero.com> wrote in message
> news:1112576176.4...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> >> > BTW, go to hell!
> ...>
> > By repeatedly stating that I am NOT diagnosed with, nor being
treated
> > for any mental illness? :)
> >
> >> Posted it yourself.
> >
> > In all the posts where I repeatedly stated I am not diagnosed
with,
> > nor being treated for any mental illness? :)
> >
> >
> > Several different things.
> >> Lately, it has been your claim that you suffer from depression
that
> > results
> >> from Hashimoto's disease.
>
>
> >
> > Those are symptoms of my thyroid disease, which the DSM
specifically
> > precludes assholes like you from diagnosing as mental illness.
> >
> > So, quit LIBELING me...
>
> Boy, are you ever wrong!
No, I'm not.
Snip...the bait and switch of the intellectually dishonest Dr. Dan
Rogers.
Ryan Lankford, Libertarian Warrior
wrote:
She knows she's incorrect, otherwise her poor, impoverished ass would
have filed suit or charges by now and attempted to cash in on the
success of her "tormentors."
Ryan Lankford, Libertarian Warrior
How was he intellectually dishonest? He provided cites to back up his
opinion.
--
Ryan Lankford, Tom Sneddon Agent
http://www.ryan-lankford.tk
Is MJ guilty? Take the poll at my website, and leave your comments.
Poll is active until 4/11/05.
Indomi...@netzero.com
Ryan Lankford, Libertarian Warrior wrote:
Because it doesn't rebut what it purported to rebut, my symptoms of
depression being anergiac, endogenous, and physiological owing to my
thyroid disorder, rather than a "mental disease", IOW, the actual
subject under discussion?
Whether or not the frauds and charlatans in the psychology profession
attempt to pathologize every man, woman, and child in america as
mentally ill, have succeeded in inventing mental illnesses, whose
etiology is manifestation of other symptoms of endocrine or
physicological disease, is MOOT to this discussion
Indomi...@netzero.com
LOL
Ok, fine.
IMO, I possess extensive knowledge about psychopaths and narcissists
as a result of my personal acquaintance with people whom experts I
consulted opined are psychopaths and/or narcissists, and, as a
result of my having read all the works of persons who have devoted
their life to study of psychopaths and narcissists.
If you choose to disbelieve a person who has been advised they are
being stalked by psychopaths and/or narcissists would read everything
that experts on psychopaths and narcissist have to say about such
human-like cretin's, that's your choice.
Indomi...@netzero.com
Kali wrote:
> In article <1112503559.465833.100410
> @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, posted 2 Apr 2005 20:45:59 -
> 0800, Indomi...@netzero.com says...
>
> >
> >Kali wrote:
> >> In article <1112445190.781417.5190
> >> @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, posted 2 Apr 2005 04:33:10 -
> >> 0800, Indomi...@netzero.com says...
> snip
>
> >> >> Do you have any evidence to back up the claim that 'narcissism
> >> >> is a less severe form of psychopathy'? Who is the researcher,
> >> >> where was the article published, that sort of thing. Otherwise
> >> >> you're FOS.
> >> >
> >> >I can't recall.
> >>
> >> Maybe you were mistaken.
> >
> >I doubt it.
>
> I am certain of it.
Your asserting you are certain of something means diddly squat.
>
> >The theme of the moral support group on MSN for targets of
narcissists
> >is that Narcissism is a less severe form of psychopathy.
>
> Not Cleckley, then?
Yes, Cleckley is the author whom the victims of narcissists on the MSN
support group most often refer to as having characterized Narcissism as
a less severe form of psychopathy.
>
> >> >I suspect it was Chekley-(Mask of Sanity) Rather than "Hare"
> >> >(Psychopaths amongst us).
>
> Or was it something you read on the internet that was put there
> by someone as ignorant as yourself?
Ignorant?
I have forgotten more than you will ever know about the propaganda,
err, I mean research, the mental health industry has published over
the last 5 decades.
If I am talking to adherents of psychiatry--I might do so from within
their framework of reference, but, I personally became disillusioned
with the propaganda of the mental health industry, over the decades,
because I found it a bit hard to keep embracing "current thinking"
decade after decade, when the "current thinking" in the mental health
industry undergoes such sweeping swings of the pendulum---as a function
of the charisma of individual adherents of "psychiatry".
>
> >> Sorry - I've read both
> >
> >Proof?
> >
> >>and I have engaged in seminars
> >
> >Proof?
> >
> >and
> >> formal course work in criminal psychology and psychopathology,
> >
> >proof?
>
> The onus of proof is on you.
Ridiculus.
usenet's filthiest little liar, Kimberly Barnard, asserted she read
Cleckley and Hare, has engaged in seminars, and formal courseword in
psychology and psychopathology.
If usenet's filthiest little liar expects me to believe a word she
says, then the liar best post proof supporting her claims--otherwise I
will dismiss them as more of barnards' LIES.
> >> and what you are saying is simply not supported by the
> >> evidence.
> >
> >Sorry, but I don't place any credence in the self-serving opinions
of
> >a professional student aka bum whose claim to fame is her
sociopathy.
>
> You choose to follow along on your fool's errand.
Au contraire
The fools are all those whom you have taken for a ride.
>
> >I possess extensive knowledge about psychopaths and narcissists as a
> >result of my personal acquaintance with so called psychopaths and
> >narcissists, and as a result of having read all the works of
persons
> >who have devoted their life to study of psychopaths and narcissists.
>
> Cleckley and Hare do not agree with you.
Usenet's filthiest little liar's claims about what Cleckly or Hare
agree with or don't agree with is worth didly squat.
>
> >I agree with the theorists who assert that NPD is a less severe form
of
> >psychopathy.
>
> You haven't cited a theorist,
Nor do I need to since only a complete ignoramous doesn't know that
some theorists believe Narcissism is a less severe form of psychopathy.
Snip...usenet's filthiest little liars untrue BS...
Kali
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, posted 3 Apr 2005 17:56:16 -
0700, Indomi...@netzero.com says...
>
>Card XII wrote:
>> <Indomi...@netzero.com> wrote in message
>> news:1112510054.6...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
snip
>Those are symptoms of my thyroid disease, which the DSM specifically
>precludes assholes like you from diagnosing as mental illness.
Actually, it doesn't. There's just a different code used that
indicates 'cause', which means that you are clinically
depressed but the first line of treatment is thyroid before
other interventions. It's okay if you don't believe Dan, who
has years and years of experience as a clinician, or if you
don't belive me, as a student. Just read the DSM. Just saying
it's one way in Linda's World doesn't make it so.
>So, quit LIBELING me...
Libel involves lying. You have said that you have suffered mood
symptoms secondary to a thyroid condition. People are just
going by what you've said.
It's really sickening the way you talk about mentally ill
people as being beneath you. Anyone ever tell you that? It
seems you think it's "not something to be ashamed of" if the
origin is organic, or "not the person's own fault." One easily
infers from your posts on this issue that you therefore blame
mentally ill people for their own conditions, find them
deficient or weak, and that you find them therefore
contemptible and perhaps worthy of the worst you can dish out.
Such a nice gal!
Kali
Sun, 03 Apr 2005 22:16:35 -0500, Peter V'ylliki
vyl...@remove.gmail.com says...
>Indomi...@netzero.com wrote in news:1112583164.458800.117470
>@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
>
>
><http://tinyurl.com/4ujag>
Definitely.
Kali
Apr 2005 04:23:29 GMT, Card XII dlro...@frontiers.net says...
LOL, really, there are some brad signs here. Not good!
Kali
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, posted 3 Apr 2005 22:05:27 -
0700, Indomi...@netzero.com says...
You are wrong.
Kali
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, posted 3 Apr 2005 23:07:10 -
0700, Indomi...@netzero.com says...
...is still depression, which is technically a mental illness.
Horrors, huh? How will you ever reconcile your hatred for the
mentally ill with the fact that you, yourself have been
diagnosed in the past? Maybe you'll try to work it out on
Usenet by harassing psychologists and everyone else who you
don't like.
Kali
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, posted 4 Apr 2005 02:38:32 -
0700, Indomi...@netzero.com says...
Who have I "taken for a ride"? Is this a new lie? It's hard to
keep track of them.
>> >I possess extensive knowledge about psychopaths and narcissists as a
>> >result of my personal acquaintance with so called psychopaths and
>> >narcissists, and as a result of having read all the works of
>persons
>> >who have devoted their life to study of psychopaths and narcissists.
>>
>> Cleckley and Hare do not agree with you.
>
>Usenet's filthiest little liar's claims about what Cleckly or Hare
>agree with or don't agree with is worth didly squat.
Page number?
>> >I agree with the theorists who assert that NPD is a less severe form
>of
>> >psychopathy.
>>
>> You haven't cited a theorist,
>
>Nor do I need to since only a complete ignoramous doesn't know that
>some theorists believe Narcissism is a less severe form of psychopathy.
I would take serious issue with it, because it goes against
what is commonly understood about personality and
psychopathology. If you can't provide a page number or cite, a
rational argument, explaining how the two constructs come
together, and why the brain and other evidence for psychopathy
is missing in the narcissist, would be a start.
>Snip...usenet's filthiest little liars untrue BS...
When trapped in a lie, insult the person and call them a liar.
Nice tactic.
bluemoon
I've told her that so many times I can't count them anymore.
I wonder who from her family of origin you represent, I know she focuses
on me like her mother. Had a long thread about that once, google for
cripple fuckers.....
Kali
posted Tue, 05 Apr 2005 00:30:03 GMT, bluemoon
blue...@milkyway.net says...
>Kali wrote:
>> In article <1112576176.447655.279880
>> @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, posted 3 Apr 2005 17:56:16 -
>> 0700, Linda Gore as Indomi...@netzero.com says...
snip
>> It's really sickening the way you talk about mentally ill
>> people as being beneath you. Anyone ever tell you that? It
>> seems you think it's "not something to be ashamed of" if the
>> origin is organic, or "not the person's own fault." One easily
>> infers from your posts on this issue that you therefore blame
>> mentally ill people for their own conditions, find them
>> deficient or weak, and that you find them therefore
>> contemptible and perhaps worthy of the worst you can dish out.
>>
>> Such a nice gal!
>>
>> Kali
>
>I've told her that so many times I can't count them anymore.
Is it just me, or is there something fundamentally fucked up
about spending 5 years being nasty to people in support groups
because one feels contempt for them for having a mental
disorder?
>I wonder who from her family of origin you represent, I know she focuses
>on me like her mother. Had a long thread about that once, google for
>cripple fuckers.....
Cripple fuckers? It brings up some interesting threads; then,
as now. So that's her idea of support. Like calling domestic
abuse survivors "pain sluts", and people with bipolar disorder
"raving mad lunatics", and calling for them to be banned from
the internet.
Card XII
<Indomi...@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:1112591127.6...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
I'll repeat the reality you avoided:
Card XII
"Kali" <Ka...@lart.meow> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cbb78ab5...@news.west.earthlink.net...
No! Tell me it can't happen. Next you'll say that brad and Ehrenfels are
jealous wannabees.
I can't believe that Linda Gore would be the poster girl for Freud's
displacement construct.
Sigh.
Card XII
<Indomi...@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:1112605103.8...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
...
> IMO, I possess extensive knowledge about psychopaths and narcissists
> as a result of my personal acquaintance with people whom experts I
> consulted opined are psychopaths and/or narcissists, and, as a
> result of my having read all the works of persons who have devoted
> their life to study of psychopaths and narcissists.
So, you admit that the only people you can attract in your life are
psychopaths and narcissists. Figures.
You real "all the works" regarding psychopaths and narcissists? So tell us
all, then, how narcissists and psychopaths contrast on a circumplex, such as
Leary's.
You read Bandura's stuff, too? You are amazing.
> If you choose to disbelieve a person who has been advised they are
> being stalked by psychopaths and/or narcissists would read everything
> that experts on psychopaths and narcissist have to say about such
> human-like cretin's, that's your choice.
You have only read portions, and you pick and choose the parts of sentences
that fit with your whacked-out delusions.
You just don't know what you're talking about. Never have, never will.
Kali
Apr 2005 03:09:50 GMT, Card XII dlro...@frontiers.net says...
And several others, too. You might even want to call her Bertha
B., but I'm partial to "Brunhilda" myself. It kind of captures
the way her face contorts in some of her kickin'-ass posts.
Card XII
<Indomi...@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:1112607512....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
...
> Ignorant?
Yes, ignorant. Very ignorant.
> I have forgotten more than you will ever know about the propaganda,
> err, I mean research, the mental health industry has published over
> the last 5 decades.
You forgot it, for sure, but she still knows what she learned.
> If I am talking to adherents of psychiatry--I might do so from within
> their framework of reference, but, I personally became disillusioned
> with the propaganda of the mental health industry, over the decades,
> because I found it a bit hard to keep embracing "current thinking"
> decade after decade, when the "current thinking" in the mental health
> industry undergoes such sweeping swings of the pendulum---as a function
> of the charisma of individual adherents of "psychiatry".
Maybe that's why you are so far off base. Psychiatrists have had very
little influence on the theories of psychopathology and psychotherapy for
the past 60 years. Just psychologists and social workers.
>> The onus of proof is on you.
>
> Ridiculus.
You made the claims, you have to provide the proof.
> usenet's filthiest little liar, Kimberly Barnard, asserted she read
> Cleckley and Hare, has engaged in seminars, and formal courseword in
> psychology and psychopathology.
>
> If usenet's filthiest little liar expects me to believe a word she
> says, then the liar best post proof supporting her claims--otherwise I
> will dismiss them as more of barnards' LIES.
How the heck would she be in grad school without studying those areas?
...
> Au contraire
>
> The fools are all those whom you have taken for a ride.
Oh, great. The 'neener neener' gambit.
...
>> >I agree with the theorists who assert that NPD is a less severe form
> of
>> >psychopathy.
>>
>> You haven't cited a theorist,
>
> Nor do I need to since only a complete ignoramous doesn't know that
> some theorists believe Narcissism is a less severe form of psychopathy.
The only reason you don't "need to" is that you can't. No major theorist
has made such a claim. Your only reading is in Cosmopolitan or in Redbook.
> Snip...usenet's filthiest little liars untrue BS...
Ah, little mole, you get so upset when you are outed. You spoke out of
turn, without supporting facts, and you got called out. Look like a moron,
you moron.
Card XII
Laughing at Linda Gore
Ryan Lankford, Libertarian Warrior
wrote:
>
><Indomi...@netzero.com> wrote in message
>news:1112605103.8...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>...
>> IMO, I possess extensive knowledge about psychopaths and narcissists
>> as a result of my personal acquaintance with people whom experts I
>> consulted opined are psychopaths and/or narcissists, and, as a
>> result of my having read all the works of persons who have devoted
>> their life to study of psychopaths and narcissists.
>
>So, you admit that the only people you can attract in your life are
>psychopaths and narcissists. Figures.
>
>You real "all the works" regarding psychopaths and narcissists? So tell us
>all, then, how narcissists and psychopaths contrast on a circumplex, such as
>Leary's.
>
>You read Bandura's stuff, too? You are amazing.
I doubt she read any of the credible authors you just mentioned. A
lot of her cites are from writers that seem to have an ax to grind.
She's cited Scientologists before to prop up her delusions, so don't
be too surprised...
>> If you choose to disbelieve a person who has been advised they are
>> being stalked by psychopaths and/or narcissists would read everything
>> that experts on psychopaths and narcissist have to say about such
>> human-like cretin's, that's your choice.
>
>You have only read portions, and you pick and choose the parts of sentences
>that fit with your whacked-out delusions.
>
>You just don't know what you're talking about. Never have, never will.
>
>Card XII
>Stalking Filth #12
>
>