[Leslie et al] WINNERS: December 1997 LMA honors
Cognitee
Thought you all might like to see how Peter, Leslie Packer and John Price
spend their time elsewhere (see voting described in post below). What
great people !!
P.S. To Leslie:
Nice [self-serving] role model, Leslie Packer !! What a mom !! <
LAUGHING > Surely you aren't having Justin vote in your behalf in
alt.usenet.kooks, are you ??? Are you teaching him to hate? Those who do
also hate themselves !!! (IF this is what you are doing: No wonder he has
had serious emotional problems !!)
P.S. I see no other Justins in the newsgroup !!!! Bending a YOUNG child
to your will. Is this ethical??
In article <libel-ya02408000...@news.concentric.net>,
li...@wilhelp.TAKEthisOUT.com (Phoenix) wrote:
[snip]
>
> AND THE WINNER IS: BARD JESNESS & TIM BROWN!!
>
> As if it were a surprise. One voted for another candidate just to *try* and
> make it look even remotely fair:
>
> (1st) Brad Jesness - Larry C. Lyons, Loren, Justin, Leslie Packer, ME,
Catfish,
> Wiz, s302728, Dave Ratcliffe, Kurt Lewin, Patricia, Cipher, John
Davis, Jee,
> Peter Hood, John Price
> Tim Brown - Leslie Packer, Bobby Tendinitis, ME, Catfish, Wiz,
s302728,
> Dave Ratcliffe, Patricia, Cipher, John Davis, Jee, Peter Hood,
John Price,
> Raoul Xemblinosky, John, David Farrar
> (2nd) Steve Keohane - Kevin Podsiadlik, Taylor
> (3rd) Antispam.org -
>
[snip]
> Here's how the vote for the Bobo Award went down:
>
> (1st) Earl Curley - ME, Catfish, Wiz, Dave Ratcliffe, Patricia, Kevin
Podsiadlik,
> Cipher, John Davis, Jee, Peter Hood, John Price
>
>
> Oh, and Bard is the 2nd winner of the John M. Goober Memorial Award. He
> happened to gain this with the most votes of any singular candidate in
the history
> of the LMA family:
>
> YES - Leslie Packer, Larry C. Lyons, Edna, Loren, Justin, ME, Catfish, Wiz,
> s302728, Dave Ratcliffe, Kurt Lewin, Patricia, Kevin
Podsiadlik, Cipher,
> John Davis, Jee, Taylor, Seymour J. Metz, Peter Hood, John Price
> NO -
>
>
> --HISTORY--
>
> LOONEY MAROON AWARD
[snip]
Cognitee
P.S. Leslie et al,
Expect more post labeled especially with your names UNTIL you relent
that harassing practice with me. I HAVE JUST BEGUN !!! You will find out
what it is like UNLESS you stop. It isn't nice (take my word for it).
P.P.S. ALSO: Expect your juiciest alt.usenet.kooks posts to appear here
to, unless you stop the harassment.
In article <good_brad-230...@ts001d08.min-mn.concentric.net>,
Cognitee
Yeh, Leslie,
I'm sure young children decided to HATE and participate in
alt.usenet.kooks. Speaks for who (or what) you really are. No wonder
your child had troubles. What a disturbed family !!!
In article <34d864b2...@news.pipeline.com>, lpa...@pipeline.com wrote:
> Since you posted the same message in auk as below, I will repost my
> reply from auk here.
>
> good...@hotmail.com (Cognitee) wrote:
>
> >Thought you all might like to see how Peter, Leslie Packer and John Price
> >spend their time elsewhere (see voting described in post below). What
> >great people !!
>
> Yes, we know.
>
> >To Leslie:
> > Nice [self-serving] role model, Leslie Packer !! What a mom !! <
> >LAUGHING > Surely you aren't having Justin vote in your behalf in
> >alt.usenet.kooks, are you ???
>
> Of course not. He's voting on his own behalf. So did Loren. They
> learned that there is an acceptable way of expressing their repugnance
> over your comments about Tourette and about their mother, and that
> they can do something -- vote. So I allowed them to, just as I
> allowed Loren to publicly tell you what she thought of you last year.
> I haven't raised my kids to be victims.
>
> > Are you teaching him to hate?
>
> Not at all. He is quite capable of making up his own mind.
>
> > Those who do
> >also hate themselves !!! (IF this is what you are doing: No wonder he has
> >had serious emotional problems !!)
>
> Projecting again?
>
>
> >
> >P.S. I see no other Justins in the newsgroup !!!! Bending a YOUNG child
> >to your will. Is this ethical??
>
> All parents influence their children. It's called "parenting," if
> you've never had the experience.
>
> But no child is being 'bent' to his or her parent's will. They're
> being allowed to express themselves. There's a big difference.
>
> And the "YOUNG child" is now 15. And the "youngest child" who just
> wandered in and saw your post on the screen says to tell you that
> she's 13 and can kick your a**. And she really wants me to send this
> message with just that comment from her, so I will.
Cognitee
P.S. Leslie,
I see in the portion of the post (quoted below) that you are getting a
thirteen year old involved *in each step* of your HATRED. Leave the
newsgroups for the sake of your family, Leslie !!! For the love of God
!!!
In article <34d864b2...@news.pipeline.com>, lpa...@pipeline.com wrote:
[snip]
Peter
No comment is necessary. Your own remarks do you justice, oh Venal One.
In article <good_brad-230...@ts011d19.min-mn.concentric.net>,
Cognitee <good...@hotmail.com> writes
>Yeh, Leslie,
> I'm sure young children decided to HATE and participate in
>alt.usenet.kooks. Speaks for who (or what) you really are. No wonder
>your child had troubles. What a disturbed family !!!
In article <good_brad-040...@ts003d10.min-mn.concentric.net>,
Cognitee <good...@hotmail.com> scrawled, using his bluntest, most
therapeutic,
libellous and inhumane jackhammer
> YOU JUST WORSHIP DEGREES, LESLIE, SO YOU CAN WORSHIP YOURSELF. Your
>blanket statements are in fact extrordinarily ignorant, unscientific, and
>irresponsible.
>CHILD KILLER !!!
>On Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:46:01 -0500, Cognitee/Brad Jesness wrote:
><snip>
>:P.S., though, it does seem a person whose child attemptes suicide a 7
y.o.
>:is likely a KOOK, right along with Peter Hood !!!!!
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Subject: 7 y.o. Tourette child attempts suicide
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Readers -- I am mentioning the following case because of the
lack of understanding of the parent involved. A 7 y.o.
Tourette child has attempted suicide. The mother is
convinced that it is mainly because of the Tourettes.
I am sure that the problem is
with the parenting. I think it is important to inform
people about what Tourettes can and cannot do typically
While not wanting to blame parents, I do think that
responsibility must be accepted to a reasonable degree. In
a child that young certainly the biggest problem with
adaptation involves the parent and not Tourettes. This
parent is clearly in my observation a disturbed
individual yet accepts no responsibilty. While I would like
to be sympathetic to this mother, this is just plain sick.
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In article <good_brad-290...@dial006.future.net>, Cognitee
<good...@hotmail.com> writes
> Hey, now I find out your some of your "patients" may bark like dogs
>!!! Too bad your undesirable behaviors are not that "tame" or
appropriate
<!!!
In article <no-200896...@198.22.19.209>, "L." <n...@way.jose>
writes
>What are you a doctor, lawyer, therapist and (what you really have a
>degree in:) an old-fashioned experimental psychologist that works with
>retards?
In article <good_brad-281...@ts006d14.min-mn.concentric.net>,
Cognitee
<good...@hotmail.com> politely remarked
>Dear Larry,
<snip>
> I never called tourette's people "retards", directly *OR* indirectly. I
>inquired whether Leslie's clients (in her paid work) were "retards." It
>happens they are NOT; they are also NOT typically (IF EVER) tourette's
>victims. The record would show that what you claim is only a
>misrepresentation on your part (and that of malicious others) of the
>context where that word came up (it actually came up in a REASONABLE query
>about Leslie's "brain-damaged" clients).
--
Peter
In article <good_brad-040...@ts003d10.min-mn.concentric.net>,
Cognitee <good...@hotmail.com> writes
>I stand by all my statements in the newsgroup, proudly. Please restrict
>your comments to those
Cognitee
Dear Peter,
"Child killer" was an EXPRESSION *clearly defined* in MANY posts IN THE
CONTEXT where it occured. It was also immediately explained and clarified
(as needed, whenever needed) and OBVIOUSLY was not literal. Looking at
the matter in context makes my statement CLEARLY is **NOT** libelous. I
characterized many as being "child killers" in some real sense (in fact,
in general, I characterized the whole Amer. Psycho. Assoc. as such !! --
why won't they sue me ???!!)
<<< *** LAUGHING *** >> For more on the "child killers" see:
http://www.future.net/~bradj/it.html
I make my assertions proudly: ORGANIZED [CLONICAL] PSYCHOLOGY (e.g. the
APA) is IN EFFECT KILLING OUR CHILDREN THROUGH THEIR DEFENSIVENESS, GREED
AND NEGLIGENCE (in not doing certain basic foundation research that may
well not be in the interest of maintaining all their *business* -- simple
greed over people). I have clearly outlined how the APA could be sued
!!!!
In article <Ug0R33BL...@wharton.demon.co.uk>, Peter
Cognitee
Dear Readers:
It is interesting to note that ONLY 10 people (*OTHER* than 6 hateful
people connected to the abuse of me in THIS newsgroup) voted for me for
the "award" they want to advertize !! EVERYONE CAN SEE HOW YOU ARE
REACHING (and desperate). (It is also interesting to note that 3 of the
16 votes were ALL basically Leslie Packer (when you factor in how she is
**using** her children !!).
In article <good_brad-230...@ts001d08.min-mn.concentric.net>,
good...@hotmail.com (Cognitee) wrote:
> Thought you all might like to see how Peter, Leslie Packer and John Price
> spend their time elsewhere (see voting described in post below). What
> great people !!
>
> P.S. To Leslie:
> Nice [self-serving] role model, Leslie Packer !! What a mom !! <
> LAUGHING > Surely you aren't having Justin vote in your behalf in
> alt.usenet.kooks, are you ??? Are you teaching him to hate? Those who do
> also hate themselves !!! (IF this is what you are doing: No wonder he has
> had serious emotional problems !!)
>
> P.S. I see no other Justins in the newsgroup !!!! Bending a YOUNG child
> to your will. Is this ethical??
>
Cognitee
Nope.
In article <34CB0DD6...@binus.com>, st...@binus.com wrote:
> Cognitee wrote:
>
> > REACHING (and desperate). (It is also interesting to note that 3 of the
> > 16 votes were ALL basically Leslie Packer (when you factor in how she is
> > **using** her children !!).
> >
>
> But didn't you bring them into this yourself by the things you said
about them?
>
> Nancy
Cognitee
P.S. I know. Good. This forum is NOT only YOU and replies do not go
only to you. Too bad you haven't learned that; personal business might
have been kept personal.
In article <34fd3f67...@news.pipeline.com>, lpa...@pipeline.com wrote:
> good...@hotmail.com (Cognitee) wrote:
>
> >P.S. Leslie et al,
>
> [snip] I don't read P.S.'s
Daniel V. Stone/Nancy Alvarado
Peter
In article <good_brad-240...@ts002d06.min-mn.concentric.net>,
Cognitee <good...@hotmail.com> writes
Yes. He tried to use Leslie's children against her.
FWIW I wouldn't put Brad in charge of a box of lucifers.
>> Nancy
--
Peter
<To respond remove the "+" from my address; minor spam block.>
Cognitee
Peter,
***Only*** in the post of mine YOU quote below have I "tried to use
Leslie's children against her" (and on NO other occassion WHATSOEVER).
Obviously (looking at that post of mine) to so say that I have "used her
children against her" is to mean it in only the loosest and most atypical
(and rather meaningless) sense. I think it would be MUCH more accurate
(and meaningful) to say that Leslie has used her children *against me*.
THIS IS HOW SICK SHE IS !! She has had the children e-mail me or post
against in a newsgroup me AND has had them voting against me in slimy
abusive newsgroups to try to assassinate my character and she has done so
repeatedly. NOW WHO IS REALLY "USING" THESE CHILDREN ???
P.S. In a few weeks, though, you PETER shall be saying: "And Brad even
tries to turn peoples' children against them." And you will say all this
ALL based on the one post of mine *quoted below*. This is all an
excellent example of the sort of gross intentional misrepresentation you
engage in to try to falsely, and often libelously, assassinate my
character. Fortunately we have caught you at the begining of one of your
gross intentional malicious misrepresentations with THIS INSTANCE !! All
can see what you do here and can judge you character and ethics for
themselves.
In article <2YWZZTACS0y0Ew$X...@wharton.demon.co.uk>, Peter
kd
As a consumer of the mental health industry (currently in CBT for
depression), I am curious about the professional aspect of this field.
I wanted to see things from the perspective of the "professionals".
With this in mind, I decided to check out some newsgroups (I'm new to
newsgroups for the most part) and happened upon this one. I have to say
I was quite surprised to see so many messages slamming each other. I
guess I was a little naive and thought that the professionals would be
more civil. Only reading the last few days worth of messages, I
certainly can't pretend to understand the dynamics of this group.
If Cognitee is such a pest, then why do people even bother to engage him
in conversation? Is it an ego thing? Don't let anyone insult you
without defending yourself? Seems cognitive theory says that other
people can't effect your emotions without your consent. It depends on
how you interpret things. In this case, I don't think self-defense is
neccessary. Anyone with half a brain can tell that this guy likes to
bait people. Why do people take the bait? Isn't it common sense to
ignore a child throwing a tantrum in order to get attention? Negative
reinforcement, I think it's called from Psych 101?
From my perspective, and it is of course an opinion, what appears to be
going on here is a bunch of people trying to protect their egos and
acting like children....well educated children hiding behind the cover
of words and feigned civility (barely). I ask you all...what would you
suggest to a client who came to you feeling insulted by something that
someone had said?
Just an outsider's view,
kd
Peter
In article <good_brad-250...@ts009d21.min-mn.concentric.net>,
Cognitee <good...@hotmail.com> writes
>Peter,
> ***Only*** in the post of mine YOU quote below have I "tried to use
>Leslie's children against her" (and on NO other occassion WHATSOEVER).
It is good to see at least a partial admission of guilt. This is going
on CD ROM with expedition.
Here are two more examples of "use":
-"-
On Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:46:01 -0500, Cognitee/Brad Jesness wrote:
<snip>
>:P.S., though, it does seem a person whose child attemptes suicide a 7 y.o.
>:is likely a KOOK, right along with Peter Hood !!!!!
-"-
In article <good_brad-211...@ts006d13.min-mn.concentric.net>,
Cognitee <good...@hotmail.com> writes
>Go back and take care of your kids, if you can. Look for a husband and
>start wishing you were under 50. Sicko. Try to keep your children from
>becoming suicidal -- i.e. seek help. Hey : and go to hell
-"-
>Obviously (looking at that post of mine) to so say that I have "used her
>children against her" is to mean it in only the loosest and most atypical
>(and rather meaningless) sense.
Spell this out, Professor Jesness. It looks as though you are trying the
trick of dictators; to acknowledge and simultaneously minimise your
offences... ...almost to the point of denial... ..."well she/they
deserved what I did... ...all can see".
>I think it would be MUCH more accurate
>(and meaningful) to say that Leslie has used her children *against me*.
>THIS IS HOW SICK SHE IS !!
You keep telling me that Leslie is sick. What evidence will you advance
in favour of your argument? Please recall that this is a public forum
and that Leslie is by definition a public figure - visible in
courtrooms, on television, in TS meetings at national and state level,
heard on the radio, read in print... ...I think you need to consider
very carefully how you would fare in a libel suit.
>She has had the children e-mail me
Prove this. Prove it. Mind you, I certainly wouldn't blame them
following the things that you have said of them and their mother. In
fact, I'd do what one of them suggested; I'd kick your arse into hell
and back.
>or post
>against in a newsgroup me AND has had them voting against me in slimy
>abusive newsgroups to try to assassinate my character and she has done so
>repeatedly. NOW WHO IS REALLY "USING" THESE CHILDREN ???
Her children decided to vote for you, because you publicly insulted
them and their mother too.
They are old enough it would seem to make their own decisions. You
deserved their vote, on account of your disgusting, filthy and userous
behaviour.
>P.S. In a few weeks, though, you PETER shall be saying: "And Brad even
>tries to turn peoples' children against them."
Quite obviously you do. You admitted this, and I am archiving this and
everything else to date on CD ROM.
About 24 megs of data so far. Smoke that.
>And you will say all this
>ALL based on the one post of mine *quoted below*. This is all an
>excellent example of the sort of gross intentional misrepresentation you
>engage in to try to falsely, and often libelously, assassinate my
>character. Fortunately we have caught you at the begining of one of your
>gross intentional malicious misrepresentations with THIS INSTANCE !! All
>can see what you do here and can judge you character and ethics for
>themselves.
Keep digging, Jesness. Soon you'll get back to your home in the sewers.
>In article <2YWZZTACS0y0Ew$X...@wharton.demon.co.uk>, Peter
><Pe...@wharton.demon.co.uk+> wrote:
>
>> In article <good_brad-240...@ts002d06.min-mn.concentric.net>,
>> Cognitee <good...@hotmail.com> writes
>> >Nope.
>> >
>> >In article <34CB0DD6...@binus.com>, st...@binus.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> Cognitee wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > REACHING (and desperate). (It is also interesting to note that 3 of the
>> >> > 16 votes were ALL basically Leslie Packer (when you factor in how she is
>> >> > **using** her children !!).
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> But didn't you bring them into this yourself by the things you said
>> >about them?
>>
>> Yes. He tried to use Leslie's children against her.
>>
>> FWIW I wouldn't put Brad in charge of a box of lucifers.
>>
>> >> Nancy
>> --
>> Peter
>> <To respond remove the "+" from my address; minor spam block.>
--
Peter
<To respond remove the "+" from my address; minor spam block.>
In article <good_brad-290...@dial006.future.net>, Cognitee
Peter
>only to you. Too bad you haven't learned that; personal business might
>have been kept personal.
You want to go to /e-mail/? You must be mad. Remember these?:
-"-
In message <1996073017...@dream.future.net>, Cognitee
<Cogn...@aol.com> writes
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>Message-Id: <1996073017...@dream.future.net>
>Date: Tue, 30 Jul 96 19:55:54 0700
>From: Cognitee <Cogn...@aol.com>
>Organization: Client Advocates
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>MIME-Version: 1.0
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>Subject: (no subject)
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>
>Dear Peter,
> If you can encourage a bit of civility from the fuckin' bitch
>(Leslie) I shall desist.
-"-
> In article <4tjd6l$o...@stratus.skypoint.net>, Cognitee
> <Cogn...@aol.com> writes
> >Yes, Leslie,
> > I am too important and busy to look up the papermill where you
> >received your rag.
> > I will get back to you on effect sizes and the citation. It was NOT
> >common two decades ago.
>
> >(P.S. I am a masocist, how about a date? *we seem to have become
> >close, dear)
-"-
> In article <4tjiid$r...@stratus.skypoint.net>, Cognitee
> <Cogn...@aol.com> writes
> >Leslie,
> > You sultry sexy woman among women... (just trying to imagine
> >something good about you).
-"-
> In article <4tjn8l$t...@stratus.skypoint.net>, Cognitee
> <Cogn...@aol.com> writes
> >Dear Leslie,
> > What did you say: Your a tart? (requisite insult complete)
-"-
> In article <4tjne0$t...@stratus.skypoint.net>, Cognitee
> <Cogn...@aol.com> writes
> >Go screw yourself at least once this year; do us all a favor.
-"-
>Hi Leslie,
> Thanks for your open offer of e-mail. Someone wrote to me telling me
>I've been right on with my characterization of you (GREATLY OPINIONATED,
>BUT IMPERVIOUS AND CLOSED TO INPUT) . I hate pushy women too, BTY. I more
>often "aggress" against them more. Worthless ******, dependent as
>convenient, emasculating othertimes. Leaders almost never. Terrible
>deans, often can't handle dominace properly (research shows). Maybe we
>can meet for a date sometime. Let's talk penis envy. -- bj
-"-
In article <4tt5n8$f...@stratus.skypoint.net>, Cognitee
<Cogn...@aol.com> writes
>And MS. Leslie "oh, <laughing with feigned modesty>, not-that-kind"
>Packer:
> I love these threats from you: "And just to remind you -- any email
>you might send me will be displayed publicly if I see fit."
> What if I mailed you a note to your <snip> _____ address? Would you
[snipped by me, Peter]
>publish that here? What if I called you on the phone at you <snip>
[snipped by me, Peter]
>phone nuber, would you tape it and transcribe the content to post it?
>What if I wrote or called you at your other place? Just curious. How
>abusive of persoan communication would you be?? -- b jesness
-"-
>In article <34fd3f67...@news.pipeline.com>, lpa...@pipeline.com wrote:
>
>> good...@hotmail.com (Cognitee) wrote:
>>
>> >P.S. Leslie et al,
>>
>> [snip] I don't read P.S.'s
--
Peter
In article <good_brad-220...@ts007d09.min-mn.concentric.net>,
Cognitee <good...@hotmail.com> writes
>Peter,
<snip>
>you are a delusional psychopath.
Cognitee
Dear kd,
It is indeed helpful for some of the professionals in this newsgroup to
hear your perspective. But, unfortunately, they may not even read it --
they've got so much other "important work" to do convincing everyone that
I am "bad" !! It is astonishing how many interesting posts never get
responded to at all here.
John Morlock
Bravo! But don't expect much in return. Been there, done that.
kd <mess...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<34CB9482...@hotmail.com>...
kd
John Morlock wrote:
> Bravo! But don't expect much in return. Been there, done that.
John,So it seems. (I did get a response via e-mail and I thank that
person for taking the time to reply) I guess I would have to be more
inflammatory to get more of a response. Looking around a little more, I
see that this question has been asked before. Maybe my status as a
client has left with me less credibility as an intelligent person and
therefore my post is unworthy of a response. (Not that I believe this
is true). I suppose I can't fairly ascribe motives to other people's
actions (or inaction in this case).
Luckily for me, I know that a few characters never define a group as a
whole. I hope people remember, however, that any group is often
defined by it's most outrageous members and many people are willing to
accept that assessment. The profession of psychotherapy is not shed in
a favorable light when a newsgroup dedicated to that topic is filled
with a majority of hateful, hurtful, vengeful, defensive, childish
(excuse the paraphrasing...."you said that I did X...take it back or I
will tell my mommy " (i.e 'retract that statement or I will take the
proper course of action and report you to some governing body or sue you
for libel' .......give me a break!!), egotistical posts.
Psychotherapist's are, in a sense, working in the service industry. In
this industry it is known that it's often the people who remain silent
and do not complain to the management that take their complaints to the
people who matter the most....other customers. That type of negative
advertisement is what hurts any business the most. Just because people
are silent does not mean that they are satisfied with or supportive of
what they see.
I'm just very glad that a number of these people are not my therapist.
-kd
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The permanent temptation of life is to confuse dreams with reality.
The permanent defeat of life comes when dreams are surrendered to
reality.
James Michner
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Jamie E. Eimermann
In article <34D1F6BC...@hotmail.com>, kd <mess...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>John Morlock wrote:
>
>> Bravo! But don't expect much in return. Been there, done that.
We've all been there and done that ad naseum which is probably why no
one bothered to reply to your post. Speaking for myself, I'm bored to
tears by newcomers waltzing into this newsgroup and telling the
regulars how awful their behavior is. If you'd lurked a little longer
you might have found out that few of the people who post here are
actually therapists. There are a number of people with Ph.D.s in
other types of psychology and people who are just interested in the
field.
>John,So it seems. (I did get a response via e-mail and I thank that
>person for taking the time to reply) I guess I would have to be more
>inflammatory to get more of a response. Looking around a little more, I
>see that this question has been asked before. Maybe my status as a
>client has left with me less credibility as an intelligent person and
>is true). I suppose I can't fairly ascribe motives to other people's
>actions (or inaction in this case).
Nope. Clients who make a contribution are generally well received here
as are those who have questions.
Jamie
(client, not therapist)
kd
Thanks for the info, someone else also pointed out to me the
distribution of this newsgroup and I apologize for the mistake.
I'm terribly sorry if I bored you. Maybe I should learn a dance more
interesting than a waltz....like maybe a nice salsa number. :-)
-kd
Jamie E. Eimermann wrote:
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Jamie E. Eimermann
In article <34D2BBA4...@hotmail.com>, kd <mess...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Thanks for the info, someone else also pointed out to me the
>distribution of this newsgroup and I apologize for the mistake.
>
>I'm terribly sorry if I bored you. Maybe I should learn a dance more
>interesting than a waltz....like maybe a nice salsa number. :-)
No apology necessary. I only brought it up so you could understand why
you might not be getting much response.
Jamie