Types of Personalities
Alain Figer
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> Personality is a description of how you are likely to behave. We are all
> common. Even if you are 1 in a million there are about 6 thousand people in
> your category.
Hello John,
You are referring to *categories* that are rather *arbitrarily* defined,
so that the number you gave above cannot have any real meaning.
> Actuatlly the situation is even worse.
Worse ? What do you mean !
> The five-factor model is currently quite popular. This would allow a permutations
> of about 125 combinations.
You have to understand this figure of 125 is quite *arbitrary* (being
moreover the result of an incorrect calculation of yours, but that's not
the point).
In the five-factor model, you may for example consider :
. either 2 possible values for each factor (such as Agreeable/Not
Agreeable), resulting in 32 differing combinations of the 5 factors
. or 3 possible values (such as Agreeable/average Agreeableness/Not
Agreeable), resulting in 243 combinations
. or 4, using a 4-step scale => 1024
. or 5, using the more standard 5-step scale => 3125
. or 6, or more, or whatever ...
Using a 10-step scale will result in no less than 100 000 differing
"categories".
> My personal preference is based on 4 factors producing 24 combinations.
From my own experience, a more convenient typing system for accounting
for the human diversity would allow for a number of 50 to 200 differing
categories. Below 50, the temperamental variability is too large inside
each category, such as in the Myers-Briggs system for example. Above
200, it seems to be too difficult to define (and remember !) as many
meaningful psychological portraits, each characterizing accurately the
temperament exhibited in each category.
Best Regards
Alain, INtj (or INTJ-INFP)
Extraversion 2 Agreeableness 2 Neuroticism 3 Openness 4-5
Conscientiousness 4-5 (using a 5-step scale)
fu2 sci.psy.per
David Prince
I really think that one of the problems with any variance of a typing
system, is that the types are identified by pencil and paper assessment
tools. As such they are a sample of verbal behavior only. Although there is
some indication that verbal behavior may be linked to actual behavior,
obviously this isn't entirely the case and creates problems of both validity
and reliability.
Staffan Andersson
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In article <7_pJ5.4691$KE5....@news4.atl>, "David Prince"
<depr...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Well there are probably ways that types could be meassured, for instance
neurological meassurements. Unfortunately there seems to be some money in
typing people and anyone who will tell you that you are extraverted sensing
rather than introverted intuitive will have a problem. The MBTI flatters
people by first hinting that some types are more clever and then asking some
slightly disguised questions about it. It's like having an IQ-test where you
ask people if they´re smart or stupid.
Staffan Andersson
David Prince
Staffan Andersson wrote in message ...
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>Well there are probably ways that types could be meassured, for instance
>neurological meassurements.
Do you mean identifying certain neurological compositions associated with a
specific pattern of behavior? I don't really understand what you mean by
neurological measurement.
Rolf Marvin Bře Lindgren
| I really think that one of the problems with any variance of a typing
| system, is that the types are identified by pencil and paper
| assessment tools. As such they are a sample of verbal behavior only.
personality testing is in fact a highly developed science - there are
answers to more objections than you can think of.
in _real_ personality tests, as opposed to the ones you find in
magazines and on the internet, questions that don't predict behavior are
removed. also, in real assessment situations, the test-taker is also
rated by other people (in business settings typically peers and
superiors and subordinates).
the process is not perfect, but it's more involved than you think.
that's why it's so expensive to develop real personality tests.
--
Rolf Lindgren, | http://www.roffe.com/
cand.psychol. |
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>From: "David Prince" <depr...@bellsouth.net>
>Date: Wed, Oct 25, 2000 01:49 EDT
>Message-id: <EiuJ5.5529$Dq4....@news3.atl>
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>Staffan Andersson wrote in message ...
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>>Well there are probably ways that types could be meassured, for instance
>>neurological meassurements.
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>Do you mean identifying certain neurological compositions associated with a
>specific pattern of behavior?
I suspect he means certain MBTI (or other) types have distinctive PET or CAT
scan or MRI patterns, or that these or similar tests could be used to determine
type...
I don't really understand what you mean by
>neurological measurement.
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Staffan Andersson
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In article <EiuJ5.5529$Dq4....@news3.atl>, "David Prince"
<depr...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I was mainly thinking about Eysencks claim that extraversion has to do with
activity in the reticular formation. But I'd be surprised if that was the
only dimension that could be detected that way.
Staffan Andersson
Rolf Marvin Bře Lindgren
| I was mainly thinking about Eysencks claim that extraversion has to do with
| activity in the reticular formation. But I'd be surprised if that was the
| only dimension that could be detected that way.
I think Eysenck, the behaviorist, would be the first to point out that
one is not caused by the other, and neither is more real than the
other. the neural activity is _part_ of extravert behavior, not a cause
of it.
rasmotte
And what sort of books deals with this?
Ras
rasmotte
where did you guys learn about this?
What sort of books deal with personality categories ?
Ras
Rolf Marvin Bře Lindgren
| This stuff sounds really interesting, where did you guys learn about that?
learnt it in school.
| And what sort of books deals with this?
Handbook of Personality (1990), Handbook of Personality Psychology
(1997), The Psychology of Personality at Work (1998), Journal of
Personality, Journal of Personality and Occupation, Journal of Personnel
Psychology...
Steve
Let me know...I can make someone a deal on some that I no longer need
Thanks
Steve
On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:57:11 +0100, Alain Figer
<fg...@club-internet.fr> wrote: