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Glyd

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Nov 25, 2011, 8:14:30 AM11/25/11
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According to Nobel Prizer Steve Weinberg (from Morgan Freeman Through
the Wormhole TV series), there may a second dimension of time in the
quantum realm. Instead of a particle being “spread out” occupying no
address in space until the wave function is collapsed, it rather does
have an address but not necessarily in our time. Is this possible? Can
you refute it?

G=EMC^2

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Nov 25, 2011, 9:10:18 AM11/25/11
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Weinberg was telling that Planck time in the quantum realm is its
time. Best clock in quantum Planck space is a "photon clock" Reason
for that is a pendulum has no room to swing. Ooops here is a thought
on photon clocks. "they give virtual time" Nobel thought O ya
Planck time is almost instantaneos for its only 10^-43 of a second.
That measurement is how long it takes a photon to cross a Planck
length. Small is so hard for imperial thinkers to grasp. Not I
TreBert

richard

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Nov 25, 2011, 9:37:06 AM11/25/11
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Well, as you may have noticed from my Compactifcation posts this week,
each excess jth dimension (in URMT anyhow, see below) higher than
three has an 'evolutionary time' Tj, j=4..n for n dimensions. The
first three spatial dimensions also have a single time T3. None of
these necessarily have to be the same. I don't see why an evolutionary
time must relate to an interval. Likely it does, but there is no
compelling requirement, at least bot yet in n-dimensional URMT.

For the full paper

http://www.urmt.org/urmt_dimensional_compactification.pdf

If this doesn't work, try

http://www.microscitech.com/urmt_dimensional_compactification.pdf

For a quick read, see page 31, section 11, for the 5D Eigenvector
solution - you will soon see how it works (first digit in the
subscript is the dimension, t is evolutionary time).

An overview of URMT

http://www.urmt.org/presentation_URMT_shortform.pdf

Good Day

Richard Miller
www.urmt.org

Sam Wormley

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Nov 25, 2011, 10:07:51 AM11/25/11
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More or less than one time dimension: insufficient predictability

If time were two dimensional--the planets would not have predictable
orbits.

Look at figure 1 on page L70
http://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark/dimensions.pdf

Figure 1. When the partial differential equations of nature are elliptic
or ultrahyperbolic, physics has no predictive power for an observer. In
the remaining (hyperbolic) cases, n > 3 may fail on the stability
requirement (atoms are unstable) and n < 3 may fail on the complexity
requirement (no gravitational attraction, topological problems).


Stable orbits ==> three spatial dimensions and one time dimension

Glyd

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Nov 25, 2011, 10:21:01 AM11/25/11
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btw.. it was claimed by physics professor Steve Weinstein.. not Steve
Weinberg... one can see the Morgan Freeman episode and Weinstein
describing it at 37:00 minutes at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Gy2xwD5LI

article at http://fqxi.org/community/articles/display/139

Glyd

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Nov 25, 2011, 10:24:45 AM11/25/11
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his exact paper about it at http://www.fqxi.org/data/essay-contest-files/Weinstein_FQXI2.pdf
refute it.

john

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Nov 25, 2011, 11:59:37 AM11/25/11
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> his exact paper about it athttp://www.fqxi.org/data/essay-contest-files/Weinstein_FQXI2.pdf
> refute it.

Refutation: Kant was right- there are
only three spacial dimensions.
Show me the fourth.

john

Glyd

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Nov 25, 2011, 6:08:39 PM11/25/11
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In superstring theory... there is another 3 spatial dimension just 1mm
from us connected by a cord. If you can send signal thru the cord,
then they say you can communicate with the other world.

G. L. Bradford

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Nov 26, 2011, 12:06:26 AM11/26/11
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"Sam Wormley" <swor...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:V92dnUqbQK7aMlLT...@mchsi.com...
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You're wrong, Sam. There is the *unobservable* time, there and now (0),
onsite. And the *observable* time ((-) (history)) here and now (0), onsite.
That is two dimensions of time *"NOW"!* and six dimensions of space, not
including the four dimensions of *observed* there and then (-) belonging to
our here and now (0). And, not including the four dimensions of OUR OWN
there and then ((-) (history)) belonging to that *unobservable* there and
now (0).

Total, immediately existing *NOW!*, that is four dimensions of time and
twelve dimensions of space.

GLB

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