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HVAC
Nov 6, 2012, 1:18:09 PM11/6/12
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On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:
> ‘Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image’
> http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>
Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
> “This technique revealed the dark matter in Abell 520 had collected
> into a “dark core,” containing far fewer galaxies than would be
> expected if the dark matter and galaxies were anchored together. Most
> of the galaxies apparently have sailed far away from the collision.
> “This result is a puzzle,” said astronomer James Jee of the University
> of California in Davis, lead author of paper about the results
> available online in The Astrophysical Journal. “Dark matter is not
> behaving as predicted, and it’s not obviously clear what is going on.
> It is difficult to explain this Hubble observation with the current
> theories of galaxy formation and dark matter.”"
>
> The dark matter core does not defy explanation. The dark matter core
> is not a puzzle. The dark matter core is not difficult to explain. It
> is obviously clear what is going on.
>
> Non-baryonic dark matter and galaxies are not anchored together. There
> is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Matter moves through and
> displaces the aether.
>
> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
> Aether is physically displaced by matter.
>
> The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether.
>
> The Milky Way's halo is what Einstein referred to as curved spacetime.
>
> The geometrical representation of gravity as curved spacetime
> physically exists in nature as displaced aether.
>
> Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
> matter is gravity.
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> ‘Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image’
> http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>
Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
> “This technique revealed the dark matter in Abell 520 had collected
> into a “dark core,” containing far fewer galaxies than would be
> expected if the dark matter and galaxies were anchored together. Most
> of the galaxies apparently have sailed far away from the collision.
> “This result is a puzzle,” said astronomer James Jee of the University
> of California in Davis, lead author of paper about the results
> available online in The Astrophysical Journal. “Dark matter is not
> behaving as predicted, and it’s not obviously clear what is going on.
> It is difficult to explain this Hubble observation with the current
> theories of galaxy formation and dark matter.”"
>
> The dark matter core does not defy explanation. The dark matter core
> is not a puzzle. The dark matter core is not difficult to explain. It
> is obviously clear what is going on.
>
> Non-baryonic dark matter and galaxies are not anchored together. There
> is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Matter moves through and
> displaces the aether.
>
> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
> Aether is physically displaced by matter.
>
> The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether.
>
> The Milky Way's halo is what Einstein referred to as curved spacetime.
>
> The geometrical representation of gravity as curved spacetime
> physically exists in nature as displaced aether.
>
> Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
> matter is gravity.
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On 11/6/2012 12:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
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> "space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein
>
You haven't stripped off enough the context to support your thesis yet.
>
> "space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein
>
"ether is" -- Albert Einstein
There. Does that help?
mpc755
Nov 6, 2012, 2:08:52 PM11/6/12
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The relativistic ether wave passes through both slits in a double slit
experiment. The particle travels through a single slit.
Wave-particle duality is a moving particle and its associated
relativistic ether wave.
HVAC
Nov 6, 2012, 2:51:33 PM11/6/12
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On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
> On Nov 6, 1:17 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>> On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:
>>
>>> ‘Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image’
>>> http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>>
>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>>
>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>>
>
> On Nov 6, 1:17 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>> On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:
>>
>>> ‘Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image’
>>> http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>>
>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>>
>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>>
>
> "space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein
Times change.
mpc755
Nov 6, 2012, 3:31:16 PM11/6/12
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On Nov 6, 2:50 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
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> > On Nov 6, 1:17 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >> On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:
>
> >>> ‘Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image’
> >>>http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>
> >> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>
> >> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
> >> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>
> > "space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein
>
> Times change.
>
And mainstream physics is so screwed up it can't understand displaced
> On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > On Nov 6, 1:17 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >> On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:
>
> >>> ‘Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image’
> >>>http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>
> >> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>
> >> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
> >> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>
> > "space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein
>
> Times change.
>
aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is
gravity and in a double slit experiment the particle travels through a
single slit and the associated wave in the aether through both.
"It is ironic that Einstein's most creative work, the general theory
of relativity, should boil down to conceptualizing space as a medium
when his original premise [in special relativity] was that no such
medium existed [..] The word 'ether' has extremely negative
connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association
with opposition to relativity. This is unfortunate because, stripped
of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most
physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually
says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading
the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic
symmetry. [..] It turns out that such matter exists. About the time
relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began
showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure
similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent
studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand
that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian
emptiness. It is filled with 'stuff' that is normally transparent but
can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a
part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day
by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this
because it is taboo." - Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics,
endowed chair in physics, Stanford University
Big Dog
Nov 6, 2012, 3:55:28 PM11/6/12
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On 11/6/2012 2:31 PM, mpc755 wrote:
> On Nov 6, 2:50 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>> On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>
>>> "space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein
>>
>> Times change.
>>
>
> And mainstream physics is so screwed up it can't understand displaced
> aether [blah-de-blah-blah]
> On Nov 6, 2:50 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>> On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>
>>> "space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein
>>
>> Times change.
>>
>
> And mainstream physics is so screwed up it can't understand displaced
So I'm trying to figure out if Cavedon is pissed because people don't
accept his [blah-de-blah-blah] ideas or because he hates that things
change. Somehow I imagine him pulling really really hard on a door
handle that has a "Push" sign on it, and getting increasingly pissed off
about it. Maybe Einstein said "pulled the door open", or maybe
door-makers are so screwed up they can't understand that doors are meant
to be pulled open.
HVAC
Nov 6, 2012, 4:11:01 PM11/6/12
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On 11/6/2012 3:31 PM, mpc755 wrote:
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>>>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>>
>>>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
>>>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>
>>
>
>
>>>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>>
>>>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
>>>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>
>>
>
> And mainstream physics is so screwed up it can't understand displaced
> aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is
> gravity and in a double slit experiment the particle travels through a
> single slit and the associated wave in the aether through both.
As I said above, ether can be treated EXACTLY as if it does not exist at
> aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is
> gravity and in a double slit experiment the particle travels through a
> single slit and the associated wave in the aether through both.
all. End of story.
Brad Guth
Nov 6, 2012, 4:10:41 PM11/6/12
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hiding behind the HVAC cloak. He couldn't think inside or outside of
the box, even if he were the box.
mpc755
Nov 6, 2012, 4:15:54 PM11/6/12
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You understand a relativistic ether wave propagates a photon.
Wave-particle duality is a moving particle and its associated
relativistic ether wave.
relativistic ether wave.
The relativistic ether wave passes through both slits in a double slit
experiment. The particle travels through a single slit.
mpc755
Nov 6, 2012, 4:16:58 PM11/6/12
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On Nov 6, 4:10 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> On 11/6/2012 3:31 PM, mpc755 wrote:
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>
>
> >>>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>
> >>>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
> >>>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>
> > And mainstream physics is so screwed up it can't understand displaced
> > aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is
> > gravity and in a double slit experiment the particle travels through a
> > single slit and the associated wave in the aether through both.
>
> As I said above, ether can be treated EXACTLY as if it does not exist at
> all. End of story.
>
Then explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity and the
> On 11/6/2012 3:31 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
>
> >>>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>
> >>>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
> >>>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>
> > And mainstream physics is so screwed up it can't understand displaced
> > aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is
> > gravity and in a double slit experiment the particle travels through a
> > single slit and the associated wave in the aether through both.
>
> As I said above, ether can be treated EXACTLY as if it does not exist at
> all. End of story.
>
observed behaviors in a double slit experiment.
You can't because displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward matter IS gravity and the wave in the aether passes
mpc755
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gravity.
HVAC doesn't understand if there were no ether there would be no
interference pattern in a double slit experiment.
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jump in and out of those funny little cars. His understanding of
anything is immaterial to any given topic, because his job is to make
certain that K12s and the general public media doesn't pick up on
anything you might have to say. Harlow has never supported a fresh
new interpretation of anything in his pathetic life, especially when
it's coming form an outsider like yourself.
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On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:31:16 -0800 (PST), mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com>
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For some odd reason, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.
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HVAC
Nov 6, 2012, 4:54:06 PM11/6/12
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On 11/6/2012 4:10 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
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>
> Pay no attention to our resident brown-nosed clown that's always
> hiding behind the HVAC cloak. He couldn't think inside or outside of
> the box, even if he were the box.
Ya, that makes sense. LOL On planet Goth-Venus.
>
>
> Pay no attention to our resident brown-nosed clown that's always
> hiding behind the HVAC cloak. He couldn't think inside or outside of
> the box, even if he were the box.
HVAC
Nov 6, 2012, 4:55:29 PM11/6/12
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On 11/6/2012 4:18 PM, mpc755 wrote:
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> HVAC doesn't understand if there were no ether there would be no
> gravity.
Gravity does just fine without your bogus ether.
>
> HVAC doesn't understand if there were no ether there would be no
> gravity.
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Nov 6, 2012, 4:55:27 PM11/6/12
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> "Life's greatest risk is never daring to risk."
And then they deny that's what happened.
Einstein said, "According to the general theory of relativity space
without ether is unthinkable".
Interpret that as you may. It certainly is NOT Einstein doing away
with the ether.
There is physical evidence 'non-baryonic dark matter' is not anchored
to matter. This means matter moves through 'non-baryonic dark matter'.
If matter moves through 'non-baryonic dark matter' then that means
aether has mass.
It is so simple it is ridiculous.
Once you understand aether has mass you understand displaced aether
pushing back toward matter is gravity.
Once you understand aether has mass you understand the wave of wave-
particle duality is a wave in the aether.
Once you understand aether has mass you understand Einstein's
gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave. They are both waves in
the aether.
HVAC
Nov 6, 2012, 4:57:24 PM11/6/12
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On 11/6/2012 4:16 PM, mpc755 wrote:
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>> As I said above, ether can be treated EXACTLY as if it does not exist at
>> all. End of story.
>>
>
> Then explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity and the
> observed behaviors in a double slit experiment.
No.
>
>> As I said above, ether can be treated EXACTLY as if it does not exist at
>> all. End of story.
>>
>
> Then explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity and the
> observed behaviors in a double slit experiment.
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On Nov 6, 4:56 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> On 11/6/2012 4:16 PM, mpc755 wrote:
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>
>
> >> As I said above, ether can be treated EXACTLY as if it does not exist at
> >> all. End of story.
>
> > Then explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity and the
> > observed behaviors in a double slit experiment.
>
> No.
>
Because you can't.
> On 11/6/2012 4:16 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
>
> >> As I said above, ether can be treated EXACTLY as if it does not exist at
> >> all. End of story.
>
> > Then explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity and the
> > observed behaviors in a double slit experiment.
>
> No.
>
Without ether there is no gravity.
Without ether there is no wave of wave-particle duality.
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On Nov 6, 4:54 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> On 11/6/2012 4:18 PM, mpc755 wrote:
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>
>
> > HVAC doesn't understand if there were no ether there would be no
> > gravity.
>
> Gravity does just fine without your bogus ether.
>
Then explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity.
> On 11/6/2012 4:18 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
>
> > HVAC doesn't understand if there were no ether there would be no
> > gravity.
>
> Gravity does just fine without your bogus ether.
>
You can't.
HVAC
Nov 6, 2012, 5:04:28 PM11/6/12
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On 11/6/2012 4:59 PM, mpc755 wrote:
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>>>> As I said above, ether can be treated EXACTLY as if it does not exist at
>>>> all. End of story.
>>
>>> Then explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity and the
>>> observed behaviors in a double slit experiment.
>>
>> No.
>>
>
> Because you can't.
Because I've engaged you in this same conversation before, only to
>
>>>> As I said above, ether can be treated EXACTLY as if it does not exist at
>>>> all. End of story.
>>
>>> Then explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity and the
>>> observed behaviors in a double slit experiment.
>>
>> No.
>>
>
> Because you can't.
discover that you were a raving kook. I don't want to hurt your
feelings, but it was YOU who pushed me to answer further.
Brad Guth
Nov 6, 2012, 5:04:43 PM11/6/12
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HVAC
Nov 6, 2012, 5:05:41 PM11/6/12
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On 11/6/2012 4:46 PM, Painius wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:31:16 -0800 (PST), mpc755<mpc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 6, 2:50 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>> On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 6, 1:17 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> ‘Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image’
>>>>>> http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>>>
>>>>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>>>
>>>>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
>>>>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>>>
>
>
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:31:16 -0800 (PST), mpc755<mpc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 6, 2:50 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>> On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 6, 1:17 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> ‘Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image’
>>>>>> http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>>>
>>>>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>>>
>>>>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
>>>>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>>>
>
>
> For some odd reason, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.
Yup....And neither one was missed.
mpc755
Nov 6, 2012, 5:05:31 PM11/6/12
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On Nov 6, 5:03 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> On 11/6/2012 4:59 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
>
> >>>> As I said above, ether can be treated EXACTLY as if it does not exist at
> >>>> all. End of story.
>
> >>> Then explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity and the
> >>> observed behaviors in a double slit experiment.
>
> >> No.
>
> > Because you can't.
>
> Because I've engaged you in this same conversation before, only to
> discover that you were a raving kook. I don't want to hurt your
> feelings, but it was YOU who pushed me to answer further.
>
> On 11/6/2012 4:59 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
>
> >>>> As I said above, ether can be treated EXACTLY as if it does not exist at
> >>>> all. End of story.
>
> >>> Then explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity and the
> >>> observed behaviors in a double slit experiment.
>
> >> No.
>
> > Because you can't.
>
> Because I've engaged you in this same conversation before, only to
> discover that you were a raving kook. I don't want to hurt your
> feelings, but it was YOU who pushed me to answer further.
>
Without ether there is no gravity.
Without ether there is no wave of wave-particle duality.
Displaced ether pushing back toward matter is gravity.
Without ether there is no wave of wave-particle duality.
What waves in a double slit experiment is the ether.
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Nov 6, 2012, 5:15:39 PM11/6/12
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Another one who can't explain anything yet insists there is no ether.
Displaced aether pushing back toward matter is gravity.
What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.
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> "Big Dog" <big.fing....@gmail.com> wrote in message
Displaced aether pushing back toward matter is gravity.
What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.
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>>>>> Then explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity and the
>>>>> observed behaviors in a double slit experiment.
>>
>>>> No.
>>
>>> Because you can't.
>>
>> Because I've engaged you in this same conversation before, only to
>> discover that you were a raving kook. I don't want to hurt your
>> feelings, but it was YOU who pushed me to answer further.
>>
>
> Without ether there is no gravity.
>
> Without ether there is no wave of wave-particle duality.
>
> Displaced ether pushing back toward matter is gravity.
>
> What waves in a double slit experiment is the ether.
Once a kook, always a kook.
>
>>>>> Then explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity and the
>>>>> observed behaviors in a double slit experiment.
>>
>>>> No.
>>
>>> Because you can't.
>>
>> Because I've engaged you in this same conversation before, only to
>> discover that you were a raving kook. I don't want to hurt your
>> feelings, but it was YOU who pushed me to answer further.
>>
>
> Without ether there is no gravity.
>
> Without ether there is no wave of wave-particle duality.
>
> Displaced ether pushing back toward matter is gravity.
>
> What waves in a double slit experiment is the ether.
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Nov 6, 2012, 5:51:32 PM11/6/12
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Upleft frigthening.
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Nov 6, 2012, 6:13:48 PM11/6/12
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What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.
Big Dog
Nov 6, 2012, 10:46:39 PM11/6/12
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> Another one who can't explain anything yet insists there is no ether.
"Want me to believe there is no ether? Then the price is explaining
>
> Another one who can't explain anything yet insists there is no ether.
things to me. Otherwise I believe in ether. Nyah."
Y.Porat
Nov 7, 2012, 1:38:13 AM11/7/12
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On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:17:31 PM UTC+2, HVAC wrote:
> On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:
>
> > ‘Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image’
>
> > http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>
>
>
> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
>
> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>
>
>
>
>
> > “This technique revealed the dark matter in Abell 520 had collected
> On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:
>
> > ‘Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image’
>
> > http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>
>
>
> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
>
> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > into a “dark core,” containing far fewer galaxies than would be
>
> > expected if the dark matter and galaxies were anchored together. Most
>
> > of the galaxies apparently have sailed far away from the collision.
>
> > “This result is a puzzle,” said astronomer James Jee of the University
>
> > of California in Davis, lead author of paper about the results
>
> > available online in The Astrophysical Journal. “Dark matter is not
>
> > behaving as predicted, and it’s not obviously clear what is going on.
>
> > It is difficult to explain this Hubble observation with the current
>
> > theories of galaxy formation and dark matter.”"
>
> >
>
> > The dark matter core does not defy explanation. The dark matter core
>
> > is not a puzzle. The dark matter core is not difficult to explain. It
>
> > is obviously clear what is going on.
>
> >
>
> > Non-baryonic dark matter and galaxies are not anchored together. There
>
> > is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Matter moves through and
>
> > displaces the aether.
>
> >
>
> > Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
>
> > Aether is physically displaced by matter.
>
> >
>
> > The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether.
>
> >
>
> > The Milky Way's halo is what Einstein referred to as curved spacetime.
>
> >
>
> > The geometrical representation of gravity as curved spacetime
>
> > physically exists in nature as displaced aether.
>
> >
>
> > Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
>
> > matter is gravity.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo .. 变亮
>
> http://www.richardgingras.com/tia/images/tia_logo_large.jpg
----------------------
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo .. 变亮
>
> http://www.richardgingras.com/tia/images/tia_logo_large.jpg
and now comes the punch question (copyrighted ) by Y.Porat)
How many kilograms of Aether mass are in one cubic meter
of space ???!!!
and not accidentally i never got an answer for that !!..
TIA
Y.Porat
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mpc755
Nov 7, 2012, 9:09:08 AM11/7/12
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You understand a relativistic ether wave propagates a photon.
The wave of wave-particle duality is the relativistic ether wave
propagating the photon.
In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit
and the relativistic ether wave passes through both.
Dirk Van de moortel
Nov 7, 2012, 1:03:15 PM11/7/12
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"mpc755" <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Displaced aether pushing back toward matter is gravity.
Dispushed gravity placing back toward gravity is matter aether.
>
> What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.
What experiments in a double aether wave is the slit.
Dirk Vdm
news:4402ab5e-4e45-402e...@j10g2000yqc.googlegroups.com
> On Nov 6, 5:15 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"
> <dirkvandemoor...@hotspam.not> wrote:
>> "Big Dog" <big.fing....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:k7bm7v$jqr$3...@speranza.aioe.org
>>
>>> On 11/6/2012 12:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>
>>>> "space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein
>>
>>> You haven't stripped off enough the context to support your thesis
>>> yet.
>>
>>> "ether is" -- Albert Einstein
>>
>>> There. Does that help?
>>
>> Good one :-)
>>
>> Dirk Vdm
>
> Another one who can't explain anything yet insists there is no ether.
Another one who can explain everything with ether.
> <dirkvandemoor...@hotspam.not> wrote:
>> "Big Dog" <big.fing....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:k7bm7v$jqr$3...@speranza.aioe.org
>>
>>> On 11/6/2012 12:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>
>>>> "space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein
>>
>>> You haven't stripped off enough the context to support your thesis
>>> yet.
>>
>>> "ether is" -- Albert Einstein
>>
>>> There. Does that help?
>>
>> Good one :-)
>>
>> Dirk Vdm
>
> Another one who can't explain anything yet insists there is no ether.
>
> Displaced aether pushing back toward matter is gravity.
>
> What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.
Dirk Vdm
Big Dog
Nov 7, 2012, 1:27:00 PM11/7/12
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On 11/6/2012 3:18 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> HVAC doesn't understand if there were no ether there would be no
> gravity.
Prove that. Don't take Einstein's word for it. He was wrong.
>
> HVAC doesn't understand if there were no ether there would be no
> gravity.
You claim it is so, all on your own. So prove it.
Big Dog
Nov 7, 2012, 1:27:10 PM11/7/12
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On 11/6/2012 3:59 PM, mpc755 wrote:
> On Nov 6, 4:56 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>> On 11/6/2012 4:16 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>> Then explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity and the
>>> observed behaviors in a double slit experiment.
>>
>> No.
>>
>
> Because you can't.
>
> Without ether there is no gravity.
Prove it.
> On Nov 6, 4:56 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>> On 11/6/2012 4:16 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>> Then explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity and the
>>> observed behaviors in a double slit experiment.
>>
>> No.
>>
>
> Because you can't.
>
> Without ether there is no gravity.
Why don't you?
Because you can't.
>
> Without ether there is no wave of wave-particle duality.
>
Prove it.
Why don't you?
Because you can't.
mpc755
Nov 7, 2012, 1:53:10 PM11/7/12
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On Nov 7, 1:03 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"
Displaced aether pushing back toward matter is gravity.
<dirkvandemoor...@hotspam.not> wrote:
> "mpc755" <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4402ab5e-4e45-402e...@j10g2000yqc.googlegroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 6, 5:15 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"
> > <dirkvandemoor...@hotspam.not> wrote:
> >> "Big Dog" <big.fing....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:k7bm7v$jqr$3...@speranza.aioe.org
>
> >>> On 11/6/2012 12:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> >>>> "space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein
>
> >>> You haven't stripped off enough the context to support your thesis
> >>> yet.
>
> >>> "ether is" -- Albert Einstein
>
> >>> There. Does that help?
>
> >> Good one :-)
>
> >> Dirk Vdm
>
> > Another one who can't explain anything yet insists there is no ether.
>
> Another one who can explain everything with ether.
>
>
>
> > Displaced aether pushing back toward matter is gravity.
>
> Dispushed gravity placing back toward gravity is matter aether.
>
>
>
> > What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.
>
> What experiments in a double aether wave is the slit.
>
> Dirk Vdm
It's good to see you try and explain what occurs physically in nature
> "mpc755" <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4402ab5e-4e45-402e...@j10g2000yqc.googlegroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 6, 5:15 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"
> > <dirkvandemoor...@hotspam.not> wrote:
> >> "Big Dog" <big.fing....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:k7bm7v$jqr$3...@speranza.aioe.org
>
> >>> On 11/6/2012 12:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> >>>> "space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein
>
> >>> You haven't stripped off enough the context to support your thesis
> >>> yet.
>
> >>> "ether is" -- Albert Einstein
>
> >>> There. Does that help?
>
> >> Good one :-)
>
> >> Dirk Vdm
>
> > Another one who can't explain anything yet insists there is no ether.
>
> Another one who can explain everything with ether.
>
>
>
> > Displaced aether pushing back toward matter is gravity.
>
> Dispushed gravity placing back toward gravity is matter aether.
>
>
>
> > What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.
>
> What experiments in a double aether wave is the slit.
>
> Dirk Vdm
to cause gravity and the observed behaviors in a double slit
experiment. That is better than most on this forum.
Displaced aether pushing back toward matter is gravity.
mpc755
Nov 7, 2012, 1:53:44 PM11/7/12
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mpc755
Nov 7, 2012, 1:53:56 PM11/7/12
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G=EMC^2
Nov 7, 2012, 3:55:59 PM11/7/12
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Big Dog
Nov 7, 2012, 4:08:07 PM11/7/12
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Idiot.
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mpc755
Nov 7, 2012, 6:56:22 PM11/7/12
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the photon passes through both slits in a double slit experiment.
There is no amount of evidence which will remove you from your
ignorance.
Painius
Nov 8, 2012, 1:22:12 AM11/8/12
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:05:41 -0500, HVAC <hv...@physisist.net> wrote:
>On 11/6/2012 4:46 PM, Painius wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:31:16 -0800 (PST), mpc755<mpc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 6, 2:50 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>>> On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 6, 1:17 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> ‘Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image’
>>>>>>> http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>>>>
>>>>>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>>>>
>>>>>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
>>>>>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>>>>
>>
>>
>> For some odd reason, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.
>
>
>Yup....And neither one was missed.
If you only knew how fucking stupid and inane that sounds.
>On 11/6/2012 4:46 PM, Painius wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:31:16 -0800 (PST), mpc755<mpc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 6, 2:50 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>>> On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 6, 1:17 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> ‘Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image’
>>>>>>> http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>>>>
>>>>>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>>>>
>>>>>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
>>>>>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>>>>
>>
>>
>> For some odd reason, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.
>
>
>Yup....And neither one was missed.
--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Life's greatest risk is never daring to risk."
HVAC
Nov 8, 2012, 8:02:24 AM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 1:22 AM, Painius wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
>>>>>>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For some odd reason, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.
>>
>>
>> Yup....And neither one was missed.
>
>
> If you only knew how fucking stupid and inane that sounds.
Perhaps to a religious freak like you.
>
>>>>>>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
>>>>>>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For some odd reason, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.
>>
>>
>> Yup....And neither one was missed.
>
>
> If you only knew how fucking stupid and inane that sounds.
Brad Guth
Nov 8, 2012, 8:31:01 AM11/8/12
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On Nov 7, 10:22 pm, Painius <starswir...@aol.com> wrote:
going after the next tasty treat.
Why do you even bother to read his crap, much less responding to it?
Humans need to belong to something, and so for most of us it's
religion or the faith in something greater than our molecular
existence, that happens to fill that intellectual and even somewhat
biological need. For many of us it's a desire as to being an accepted
club or mafia member in good standing. Harlow is only here to disrupt
this harmony of what humans created for themselves, and it's why he
has no family or friends outside of hell or someplace worse off. Of
course devout Semites don't believe in hell, nor in anything offered
by the likes of Jesus Christ that they helped to get placed on a
stick, while always blaming others.
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/
http://groups.google.com/groups/search
http://translate.google.com/#
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> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:05:41 -0500, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >On 11/6/2012 4:46 PM, Painius wrote:
> >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:31:16 -0800 (PST), mpc755<mpc...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> On Nov 6, 2:50 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >>>> On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Nov 6, 1:17 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image
> >>>>>>>http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>
> >>>>>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>
> >>>>>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
> >>>>>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>
> >> For some odd reason, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.
>
> >Yup....And neither one was missed.
>
> If you only knew how fucking stupid and inane that sounds.
>
> --
> Indelibly yours,
> Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
> >On 11/6/2012 4:46 PM, Painius wrote:
> >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:31:16 -0800 (PST), mpc755<mpc...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> On Nov 6, 2:50 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >>>> On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Nov 6, 1:17 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image
> >>>>>>>http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>
> >>>>>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>
> >>>>>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
> >>>>>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>
> >> For some odd reason, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.
>
> >Yup....And neither one was missed.
>
> If you only knew how fucking stupid and inane that sounds.
>
> --
> Indelibly yours,
> "Life's greatest risk is never daring to risk."
He does, and he thinks it's funny how it makes you respond like a dog
going after the next tasty treat.
Why do you even bother to read his crap, much less responding to it?
Humans need to belong to something, and so for most of us it's
religion or the faith in something greater than our molecular
existence, that happens to fill that intellectual and even somewhat
biological need. For many of us it's a desire as to being an accepted
club or mafia member in good standing. Harlow is only here to disrupt
this harmony of what humans created for themselves, and it's why he
has no family or friends outside of hell or someplace worse off. Of
course devout Semites don't believe in hell, nor in anything offered
by the likes of Jesus Christ that they helped to get placed on a
stick, while always blaming others.
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/
http://groups.google.com/groups/search
http://translate.google.com/#
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Brad Guth
Nov 8, 2012, 8:40:01 AM11/8/12
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On Nov 6, 1:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >And mainstream physics is so screwed up it can't understand displaced
> > >single slit and the associated wave in the aether through both.
>
> > >"It is ironic that Einstein's most creative work, the general theory
> > >of relativity, should boil down to conceptualizing space as a medium
> > >when his original premise [in special relativity] was that no such
> > >medium existed [..] The word 'ether' has extremely negative
> > >connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association
> > >with opposition to relativity. This is unfortunate because, stripped
> > >of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most
> > >physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually
> > >says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading
> > >the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic
> > >symmetry. [..] It turns out that such matter exists. About the time
> > >relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began
> > >showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure
> > >similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent
> > >studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand
> > >that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian
> > >emptiness. It is filled with 'stuff' that is normally transparent but
> > >can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a
> > >part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day
> > >by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this
> > >because it is taboo." - Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics,
> > >endowed chair in physics, Stanford University
>
> Einstein said, "According to the general theory of relativity space
> without ether is unthinkable".
>
> Interpret that as you may. It certainly is NOT Einstein doing away
> with the ether.
>
> There is physical evidence 'non-baryonic dark matter' is not anchored
> to matter. This means matter moves through 'non-baryonic dark matter'.
> If matter moves through 'non-baryonic dark matter' then that means
> aether has mass.
>
> It is so simple it is ridiculous.
>
> Once you understand aether has mass you understand displaced aether
> particle duality is a wave in the aether.
>
> Once you understand aether has mass you understand Einstein's
> gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave. They are both waves in
> the aether.
Perhaps you'll need to make aether much more complex, rather than "so
simple it is ridiculous".
For myself, it's that aether push of representing gravity that doesn't
fly, because that makes molecular stuff as representing antigravity.
> On Nov 6, 4:47 pm, Painius <starswir...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:31:16 -0800 (PST), mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >On Nov 6, 2:50 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> > >> On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > >> > On Nov 6, 1:17 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> > >> >> On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:
>
> > >> >>> Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image
> > >> >>>http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>
> > >> >> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>
> > >> >> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
> > >> >> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:31:16 -0800 (PST), mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >On Nov 6, 2:50 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> > >> On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > >> > On Nov 6, 1:17 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> > >> >> On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote:
>
> > >> >>> Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image
> > >> >>>http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html
>
> > >> >> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>
> > >> >> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
> > >> >> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>
> > >> > "space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein
>
> > >> Times change.
>
>
> > >And mainstream physics is so screwed up it can't understand displaced
> > >aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is
> > >gravity and in a double slit experiment the particle travels through a
> > >single slit and the associated wave in the aether through both.
>
> > >"It is ironic that Einstein's most creative work, the general theory
> > >of relativity, should boil down to conceptualizing space as a medium
> > >when his original premise [in special relativity] was that no such
> > >medium existed [..] The word 'ether' has extremely negative
> > >connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association
> > >with opposition to relativity. This is unfortunate because, stripped
> > >of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most
> > >physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually
> > >says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading
> > >the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic
> > >symmetry. [..] It turns out that such matter exists. About the time
> > >relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began
> > >showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure
> > >similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent
> > >studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand
> > >that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian
> > >emptiness. It is filled with 'stuff' that is normally transparent but
> > >can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a
> > >part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day
> > >by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this
> > >because it is taboo." - Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics,
> > >endowed chair in physics, Stanford University
>
> > For some odd reason, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.
>
> > For some odd reason, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.
>
> > --
> > Indelibly yours,
> > Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
> > "Life's greatest risk is never daring to risk."
>
> And then they deny that's what happened.
> > Indelibly yours,
> > Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
> > "Life's greatest risk is never daring to risk."
>
>
> Einstein said, "According to the general theory of relativity space
> without ether is unthinkable".
>
> Interpret that as you may. It certainly is NOT Einstein doing away
> with the ether.
>
> There is physical evidence 'non-baryonic dark matter' is not anchored
> to matter. This means matter moves through 'non-baryonic dark matter'.
> If matter moves through 'non-baryonic dark matter' then that means
> aether has mass.
>
> It is so simple it is ridiculous.
>
> Once you understand aether has mass you understand displaced aether
> pushing back toward matter is gravity.
>
> Once you understand aether has mass you understand the wave of wave-
>
> particle duality is a wave in the aether.
>
> Once you understand aether has mass you understand Einstein's
> gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave. They are both waves in
> the aether.
Perhaps you'll need to make aether much more complex, rather than "so
simple it is ridiculous".
For myself, it's that aether push of representing gravity that doesn't
fly, because that makes molecular stuff as representing antigravity.
HVAC
Nov 8, 2012, 8:46:16 AM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 8:31 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> On Nov 7, 10:22 pm, Painius<starswir...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
> He does, and he thinks it's funny how it makes you respond like a dog
> going after the next tasty treat.
So Goth is saying that I have Painus trained like my bitch?
> On Nov 7, 10:22 pm, Painius<starswir...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
> He does, and he thinks it's funny how it makes you respond like a dog
> going after the next tasty treat.
What a nice thing to say, Goth.
> Why do you even bother to read his crap, much less responding to it?
> Humans need to belong to something, and so for most of us it's
> religion or the faith in something greater than our molecular
> existence,
> biological need. For many of us it's a desire as to being an accepted
> club or mafia member in good standing. Harlow is only here to disrupt
> this harmony of what humans created for themselves
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mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 9:16:31 AM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 8:40 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It is so simple it is ridiculous.
>
> > Once you understand aether has mass you understand displaced aether
> > pushing back toward matter is gravity.
>
> > Once you understand aether has mass you understand the wave of wave-
> > particle duality is a wave in the aether.
>
> > Once you understand aether has mass you understand Einstein's
> > gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave. They are both waves in
> > the aether.
>
> Perhaps you'll need to make aether much more complex, rather than "so
> simple it is ridiculous".
>
> For myself, it's that aether push of representing gravity that doesn't
> fly, because that makes molecular stuff as representing antigravity.
It doesn't make molecular stuff represent anti-gravity. Particles of
>
> > It is so simple it is ridiculous.
>
> > Once you understand aether has mass you understand displaced aether
> > pushing back toward matter is gravity.
>
> > Once you understand aether has mass you understand the wave of wave-
> > particle duality is a wave in the aether.
>
> > Once you understand aether has mass you understand Einstein's
> > gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave. They are both waves in
> > the aether.
>
> Perhaps you'll need to make aether much more complex, rather than "so
> simple it is ridiculous".
>
> For myself, it's that aether push of representing gravity that doesn't
> fly, because that makes molecular stuff as representing antigravity.
matter displace the aether. This is not anti-gravity. Particles of
matter displacing the aether does not cause particles of matter to
move away from one another.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect#Vacuum_energy
"a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with
interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the
field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest
position"
A 'field' in physics is space filled with aether and the strength of
the field is the displacement of the aether from its rest position.
Each of the plates in the Casimir effect displace the aether. The
displaced aether which exists between the plates is pushing back
toward each of the plates which causes the aether displaced by each of
the plates which exists between the plates to offset. This aether is
more at rest than the aether which is displaced by the plates which
encompasses the plates. The reduced force associated with the aether
which exists between the plates along with the displaced aether which
encompasses the plates which is pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the plates causes the plates to be forced together.
What is occurring physically in nature in the Casimir effect is not
anti-gravity.
What occurs physically in nature in the Casimir effect is the same
phenomenon as gravity.
Displaced aether pushing back toward matter is gravity.
A close approximation to anti-gravity would be dark energy.
Dark energy is the aether emitted into the Universal jet we exist in.
The analogy are a bunch of floats flowing down a river. When the
floats exit the mouth of the river most of the floats will move away
from one another.
This is what is occurring physically in nature in the Universal jet we
exist in.
Painius
Nov 8, 2012, 11:31:48 AM11/8/12
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>> And then they deny that's what happened.
>>
>> Einstein said, "According to the general theory of relativity space
>> without ether is unthinkable".
>>
>> Interpret that as you may. It certainly is NOT Einstein doing away
>> with the ether.
>>
>> There is physical evidence 'non-baryonic dark matter' is not anchored
>> to matter. This means matter moves through 'non-baryonic dark matter'.
>> If matter moves through 'non-baryonic dark matter' then that means
>> aether has mass.
>>
>> It is so simple it is ridiculous.
>>
>> Once you understand aether has mass you understand displaced aether
>> pushing back toward matter is gravity.
>>
>> Once you understand aether has mass you understand the wave of wave-
>> particle duality is a wave in the aether.
>>
>> Once you understand aether has mass you understand Einstein's
>> gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave. They are both waves in
>> the aether.
>
>Perhaps you'll need to make aether much more complex, rather than "so
>simple it is ridiculous".
>
>For myself, it's that aether push of representing gravity that doesn't
>fly, because that makes molecular stuff as representing antigravity.
There's another reason...
>>
>> Einstein said, "According to the general theory of relativity space
>> without ether is unthinkable".
>>
>> Interpret that as you may. It certainly is NOT Einstein doing away
>> with the ether.
>>
>> There is physical evidence 'non-baryonic dark matter' is not anchored
>> to matter. This means matter moves through 'non-baryonic dark matter'.
>> If matter moves through 'non-baryonic dark matter' then that means
>> aether has mass.
>>
>> It is so simple it is ridiculous.
>>
>> Once you understand aether has mass you understand displaced aether
>> pushing back toward matter is gravity.
>>
>> Once you understand aether has mass you understand the wave of wave-
>> particle duality is a wave in the aether.
>>
>> Once you understand aether has mass you understand Einstein's
>> gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave. They are both waves in
>> the aether.
>
>Perhaps you'll need to make aether much more complex, rather than "so
>simple it is ridiculous".
>
>For myself, it's that aether push of representing gravity that doesn't
>fly, because that makes molecular stuff as representing antigravity.
It has to be explained how and why that "aether mass" does not
generate heat through the atmosphere as it "drops" toward the ground
to result in gravitation.
"To live a creative life, you must lose your fear of being wrong."
Painius
Nov 8, 2012, 11:38:11 AM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:02:24 -0500, HVAC <hv...@physisist.net> wrote:
>On 11/8/2012 1:22 AM, Painius wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
>>>>>>>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For some odd reason, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yup....And neither one was missed.
>>
>>
>> If you only knew how fucking stupid and inane that sounds.
>
>
>Perhaps to a religious freak like you.
You think you've recovered? You just made a statement that implies
>On 11/8/2012 1:22 AM, Painius wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated
>>>>>>>> exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For some odd reason, they threw the baby out with the bathwater.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yup....And neither one was missed.
>>
>>
>> If you only knew how fucking stupid and inane that sounds.
>
>
>Perhaps to a religious freak like you.
that when the baby is thrown out with the bathwater, that's okay. It's
okay to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just go ahead and
throw the baby out with the bathwater.
If you want to make it about your god or your religion, that's your
business, but you really gotta trust me on this, Harlow: It's NEVER
okay to throw the baby out with the bathwater. never
Where others often need a reality check, you always seem to need an
imagination check.
lmbo !
HVAC
Nov 8, 2012, 11:41:26 AM11/8/12
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mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 11:48:58 AM11/8/12
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> "To live a creative life, you must lose your fear of being wrong."
The aether is, or behaves similar to, a supersolid.
By definition there is no loss of energy, as in heat, when an object
interacts with a supersolid.
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 11:50:19 AM11/8/12
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"It is ironic that Einstein's most creative work, the general theory
of relativity, should boil down to conceptualizing space as a medium
when his original premise [in special relativity] was that no such
medium existed [..] The word 'ether' has extremely negative
connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association
with opposition to relativity. This is unfortunate because, stripped
of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most
physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually
says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading
the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic
symmetry. [..] It turns out that such matter exists. About the time
relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began
showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure
similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent
studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand
that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian
emptiness. It is filled with 'stuff' that is normally transparent but
can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a
part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day
by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this
because it is taboo." - Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics,
endowed chair in physics, Stanford University
Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
of relativity, should boil down to conceptualizing space as a medium
when his original premise [in special relativity] was that no such
medium existed [..] The word 'ether' has extremely negative
connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association
with opposition to relativity. This is unfortunate because, stripped
of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most
physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually
says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading
the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic
symmetry. [..] It turns out that such matter exists. About the time
relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began
showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure
similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent
studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand
that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian
emptiness. It is filled with 'stuff' that is normally transparent but
can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a
part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day
by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this
because it is taboo." - Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics,
endowed chair in physics, Stanford University
matter is gravity.
A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated aether wave through both.
HVAC
Nov 8, 2012, 12:15:04 PM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 11:38 AM, Painius wrote:
>
>> Perhaps to a religious freak like you.
>
>
> You think you've recovered? You just made a statement that implies
> that when the baby is thrown out with the bathwater, that's okay. It's
> okay to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just go ahead and
> throw the baby out with the bathwater.
When the baby is ether and the bathwater is god, both should be thrown
>
>> Perhaps to a religious freak like you.
>
>
> You think you've recovered? You just made a statement that implies
> that when the baby is thrown out with the bathwater, that's okay. It's
> okay to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just go ahead and
> throw the baby out with the bathwater.
out like 3 day old fish. Neither has ANY basis in reality and neither
need be factored into any equations.
Since you have absolutely NOTHING to refute my statement, all I can do
is accept your apology.
> If you want to make it about your god or your religion, that's your
> business, but you really gotta trust me on this, Harlow: It's NEVER
> okay to throw the baby out with the bathwater. never
Starbucks during rush hour.
> Where others often need a reality check, you always seem to need an
> imagination check.
foolishness such as ether and/or god.
HVAC
Nov 8, 2012, 12:21:03 PM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 11:50 AM, mpc755 wrote:
Let me say this ONE MORE TIME.
Ether, much like god, need not be factored into ANY equations.
Do you understand that, MP3?
Let me say this ONE MORE TIME.
Ether, much like god, need not be factored into ANY equations.
Do you understand that, MP3?
HVAC
Nov 8, 2012, 12:24:12 PM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 11:48 AM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
> The aether is, or behaves similar to, a supersolid.
>
> By definition there is no loss of energy, as in heat, when an object
> interacts with a supersolid.
Hmmmmm...So it interacts exactly as if it doesn't exist at all.
>
>
> The aether is, or behaves similar to, a supersolid.
>
> By definition there is no loss of energy, as in heat, when an object
> interacts with a supersolid.
Excellent.
Brad Guth
Nov 8, 2012, 12:25:20 PM11/8/12
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> "To live a creative life, you must lose your fear of being wrong."
No doubt mpc755 will eventually explain that in detail, though as of
yet I'm not convinced aether represents gravity, at least not
directly.
Brad Guth
Nov 8, 2012, 12:29:01 PM11/8/12
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to?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersolid
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 12:36:55 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 12:20 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> On 11/8/2012 11:50 AM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> Let me say this ONE MORE TIME.
>
> Ether, much like god, need not be factored into ANY equations.
>
> Do you understand that, MP3?
>
"space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein
> On 11/8/2012 11:50 AM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> Let me say this ONE MORE TIME.
>
> Ether, much like god, need not be factored into ANY equations.
>
> Do you understand that, MP3?
>
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 12:43:56 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 12:24 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> On 11/8/2012 11:48 AM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
>
> > The aether is, or behaves similar to, a supersolid.
>
> > By definition there is no loss of energy, as in heat, when an object
> > interacts with a supersolid.
>
> Hmmmmm...So it interacts exactly as if it doesn't exist at all.
>
> Excellent.
>
If you roll a bowling ball in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid
> On 11/8/2012 11:48 AM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
>
> > The aether is, or behaves similar to, a supersolid.
>
> > By definition there is no loss of energy, as in heat, when an object
> > interacts with a supersolid.
>
> Hmmmmm...So it interacts exactly as if it doesn't exist at all.
>
> Excellent.
>
you are able to understand the rolling bowling ball displaces the
supersolid, correct?
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 12:47:27 PM11/8/12
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resulting in what the article refers to as gravitational aether caused
by pressure (or vorticity).
'Phenomenology of Gravitational Aether as a solution to the Old
Cosmological Constant Problem'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.3955
"One proposal to address this puzzle at the semi-classical level is to
decouple quantum vacuum from space-time geometry via a modification of
gravity that includes an incompressible fluid, known as Gravitational
Aether. In this paper, we discuss classical predictions of this theory
along with its compatibility with cosmological and experimental tests
of gravity. We argue that deviations from General Relativity (GR) in
this theory are sourced by pressure or vorticity."
The following article describes gravity as a pressure exerted by
aether toward matter.
'The aether-modified gravity and the G ̈del metric'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1109.5654v2
"As for the pressure, it is equal to p = 53−αg,6a2 so, it is positive
if αg < 3 which is the weaker condition than the previous one. One
notes that the results corresponding to the usual gravity are easily
recovered. Also, it is easy to see that the interval αg < 15
corresponds to the usual matter."
The following article describes a gravitating vacuum where aether is
the quantum vacuum of the 21-st century.
'From Analogue Models to Gravitating Vacuum'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1111.1155
"The aether of the 21-st century is the quantum vacuum, which is a new
form of matter. This is the real substance"
The following article describes what is presently postulated as dark
matter is aether where the aether has mass.
'Quantum aether and an invariant Planck scale'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.3753
"this version of aether may have some bearing on the abundance of Dark
Matter and Dark Energy in our universe."
"mass of the aether"
The following article describes what is presently postulated as dark
matter is aether.
'Scalars, Vectors and Tensors from Metric-Affine Gravity'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1110.5168
"the model obtained here gets closer to the aether theory of , which
is shown therein to be an alternative to the cold dark matter."
The following article describes the aether as superfluid dark matter.
'Unified model for dark matter and quintessence'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0610135
"Superfluid dark matter is reminiscent of the aether and modeling the
universe using superfluid aether is compatible."
The following article describes the background field as the aether
which is responsible for gravity.
'Vainshtein mechanism in Gauss-Bonnet gravity and Galileon aether'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1107.1892
"the perturbations of the scalar field do not propagate in the
Minkowski space-time but rather in some form of ”aether” because of
the presence of the background field"
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 12:47:41 PM11/8/12
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HVAC
Nov 8, 2012, 1:33:37 PM11/8/12
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"I would consider someone who believes in something that does not exist
to be a sucker" -HVAC
HVAC
Nov 8, 2012, 1:39:21 PM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 12:43 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>>> The aether is, or behaves similar to, a supersolid.
>>
>>> By definition there is no loss of energy, as in heat, when an object
>>> interacts with a supersolid.
>>
>> Hmmmmm...So it interacts exactly as if it doesn't exist at all.
>>
>> Excellent.
>>
>
> If you roll a bowling ball in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid
> you are able to understand the rolling bowling ball displaces the
> supersolid, correct?
Just so I understand, now you wish to discuss bowling alleys and NOT
>
>>> The aether is, or behaves similar to, a supersolid.
>>
>>> By definition there is no loss of energy, as in heat, when an object
>>> interacts with a supersolid.
>>
>> Hmmmmm...So it interacts exactly as if it doesn't exist at all.
>>
>> Excellent.
>>
>
> If you roll a bowling ball in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid
> you are able to understand the rolling bowling ball displaces the
> supersolid, correct?
spectral ether?
I believe in bowling alleys. Ether? Not so much.
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 1:41:16 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 1:33 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> On 11/8/2012 12:36 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > On Nov 8, 12:20 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >> On 11/8/2012 11:50 AM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> >> Let me say this ONE MORE TIME.
>
> >> Ether, much like god, need not be factored into ANY equations.
>
> >> Do you understand that, MP3?
>
> > "space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein
>
> "A sucker is born every minute" -Attributed to PT Barnum
>
> "I would consider someone who believes in something that does not exist
> to be a sucker" -HVAC
>
You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
> On 11/8/2012 12:36 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > On Nov 8, 12:20 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >> On 11/8/2012 11:50 AM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> >> Let me say this ONE MORE TIME.
>
> >> Ether, much like god, need not be factored into ANY equations.
>
> >> Do you understand that, MP3?
>
> > "space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein
>
> "A sucker is born every minute" -Attributed to PT Barnum
>
> "I would consider someone who believes in something that does not exist
> to be a sucker" -HVAC
>
bowling ball toward the pins.
You are able to understand the bowling ball displaces the supersolid,
correct?
You are able to understand there is no loss of energy between the
bowling ball and the supersolid because that's what supersolid means,
correct?
You are able to understand the bowling ball will roll forever through
the supersolid, correct?
The interaction of an object and a supersolid does not mean no
interaction. It means no loss of energy in the interaction. The
bowling ball requires energy to displace the supersolid. The
supersolid returns to the bowling ball the same amount of energy as
the supersolid 'displaces back'.
Q. Is the bowling ball displacing the supersolid or is the supersolid
displacing the bowling ball?
A. Both occur simultaneously with equal force.
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 2:02:59 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 1:39 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> On 11/8/2012 12:43 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
>
> >>> The aether is, or behaves similar to, a supersolid.
>
> >>> By definition there is no loss of energy, as in heat, when an object
> >>> interacts with a supersolid.
>
> >> Hmmmmm...So it interacts exactly as if it doesn't exist at all.
>
> >> Excellent.
>
> > If you roll a bowling ball in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid
> > you are able to understand the rolling bowling ball displaces the
> > supersolid, correct?
>
> Just so I understand, now you wish to discuss bowling alleys and NOT
> spectral ether?
>
> I believe in bowling alleys. Ether? Not so much.
>
>
>
>
> >>> The aether is, or behaves similar to, a supersolid.
>
> >>> By definition there is no loss of energy, as in heat, when an object
> >>> interacts with a supersolid.
>
> >> Hmmmmm...So it interacts exactly as if it doesn't exist at all.
>
> >> Excellent.
>
> > If you roll a bowling ball in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid
> > you are able to understand the rolling bowling ball displaces the
> > supersolid, correct?
>
> Just so I understand, now you wish to discuss bowling alleys and NOT
> spectral ether?
>
> I believe in bowling alleys. Ether? Not so much.
>
You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
bowling ball toward the pins.
You are able to understand the bowling ball displaces the supersolid,
bowling ball toward the pins.
correct?
HVAC
Nov 8, 2012, 2:21:32 PM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 2:02 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>> Just so I understand, now you wish to discuss bowling alleys and NOT
>> spectral ether?
>>
>> I believe in bowling alleys. Ether? Not so much.
>>
>
> You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
> bowling ball toward the pins.
You believe in god, right MP3?
>
>> Just so I understand, now you wish to discuss bowling alleys and NOT
>> spectral ether?
>>
>> I believe in bowling alleys. Ether? Not so much.
>>
>
> You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
> bowling ball toward the pins.
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 2:33:20 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 2:21 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> On 11/8/2012 2:02 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
>
> >> Just so I understand, now you wish to discuss bowling alleys and NOT
> >> spectral ether?
>
> >> I believe in bowling alleys. Ether? Not so much.
>
> > You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
> > bowling ball toward the pins.
>
> You believe in god, right MP3?
>
Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
> On 11/8/2012 2:02 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
>
> >> Just so I understand, now you wish to discuss bowling alleys and NOT
> >> spectral ether?
>
> >> I believe in bowling alleys. Ether? Not so much.
>
> > You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
> > bowling ball toward the pins.
>
> You believe in god, right MP3?
>
You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
bowling ball toward the pins.
HVAC
Nov 8, 2012, 2:56:58 PM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 2:33 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>>> You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
>>> bowling ball toward the pins.
>>
>> You believe in god, right MP3?
>>
>
> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>
>>> You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
>>> bowling ball toward the pins.
>>
>> You believe in god, right MP3?
>>
>
> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
Do you believe in god?
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 3:08:02 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 2:56 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> On 11/8/2012 2:33 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
>
> >>> You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
> >>> bowling ball toward the pins.
>
> >> You believe in god, right MP3?
>
> > Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>
> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>
> Do you believe in god?
>
Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
bowling ball toward the pins.
> On 11/8/2012 2:33 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
>
> >>> You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
> >>> bowling ball toward the pins.
>
> >> You believe in god, right MP3?
>
> > Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>
> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>
> Do you believe in god?
>
Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
bowling ball toward the pins.
Big Dog
Nov 8, 2012, 3:21:02 PM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 2:08 PM, mpc755 wrote:
> On Nov 8, 2:56 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>>> You believe in god, right MP3?
>>
>>> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>>
>> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>>
>> Do you believe in god?
>
> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>
Cavedon exhibits symptoms of Asperger's or high-functioning autism. He
> On Nov 8, 2:56 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>>> You believe in god, right MP3?
>>
>>> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>>
>> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>>
>> Do you believe in god?
>
> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>
compulsively repeats to assert control over a conversation. He will not
respond to questions or comments. Unless you like engaging with people
with mental handicaps, I think you'll find this goes nowhere.
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 3:41:54 PM11/8/12
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The wave of wave-particle duality is the relativistic ether wave
propagating the photon.
In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit
and the relativistic ether wave passes through both.
Big Dog
Nov 8, 2012, 3:46:51 PM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 2:41 PM, mpc755 wrote:
> On Nov 8, 3:21 pm, Big Dog <big.fing....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/8/2012 2:08 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2:56 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>>>>> You believe in god, right MP3?
>>
>>>>> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>>
>>>> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>>
>>>> Do you believe in god?
>>
>>> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>>
>> Cavedon exhibits symptoms of Asperger's or high-functioning autism. He
>> compulsively repeats to assert control over a conversation. He will not
>> respond to questions or comments. Unless you like engaging with people
>> with mental handicaps, I think you'll find this goes nowhere.
>
> You understand a relativistic ether wave propagates a photon.
>
I love it when you point out someone's compulsion, and their compulsion
> On Nov 8, 3:21 pm, Big Dog <big.fing....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/8/2012 2:08 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2:56 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>>>>> You believe in god, right MP3?
>>
>>>>> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>>
>>>> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>>
>>>> Do you believe in god?
>>
>>> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>>
>> Cavedon exhibits symptoms of Asperger's or high-functioning autism. He
>> compulsively repeats to assert control over a conversation. He will not
>> respond to questions or comments. Unless you like engaging with people
>> with mental handicaps, I think you'll find this goes nowhere.
>
> You understand a relativistic ether wave propagates a photon.
>
forces them to exhibit it.
I bet if you ring a bell, he salivates.
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 3:56:45 PM11/8/12
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mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 4:08:44 PM11/8/12
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Inertial Backreaction'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.3458
"We hypothesize that space itself resists such surges according to a
kind of induction law (related to inertia); additionally, we provide
further evidence of the “fluidic” nature of space itself."
The aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfluid with properties of
a solid, a supersolid, which is described in the article as the
'fluidic' nature of space itself. The 'back-reaction' described in the
article is the displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the matter.
HVAC
Nov 8, 2012, 4:24:24 PM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 3:08 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>>
>> Do you believe in god?
>>
>
> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
What does that have to do with you believing in god?
>
>> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>>
>> Do you believe in god?
>>
>
> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 4:30:44 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 4:24 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> On 11/8/2012 3:08 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
>
> >> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>
> >> Do you believe in god?
>
> > Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>
> What does that have to do with you believing in god?
>
Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
> On 11/8/2012 3:08 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
>
>
> >> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>
> >> Do you believe in god?
>
> > Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>
> What does that have to do with you believing in god?
>
Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
HVAC
Nov 8, 2012, 4:44:26 PM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 4:30 PM, mpc755 wrote:
> On Nov 8, 4:24 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>> On 11/8/2012 3:08 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>>
>>>> Do you believe in god?
>>
>>> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>>
>> What does that have to do with you believing in god?
>>
>
> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
Why should I even deal with someone that isn't honest and forthcoming?
> On Nov 8, 4:24 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>> On 11/8/2012 3:08 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>>
>>>> Do you believe in god?
>>
>>> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>>
>> What does that have to do with you believing in god?
>>
>
> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 4:52:26 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 4:44 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> On 11/8/2012 4:30 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > On Nov 8, 4:24 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >> On 11/8/2012 3:08 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> >>>> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>
> >>>> Do you believe in god?
>
> >>> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>
> >> What does that have to do with you believing in god?
>
> > Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>
> Why should I even deal with someone that isn't honest and forthcoming?
>
Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
> On 11/8/2012 4:30 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > On Nov 8, 4:24 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >> On 11/8/2012 3:08 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> >>>> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>
> >>>> Do you believe in god?
>
> >>> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>
> >> What does that have to do with you believing in god?
>
> > Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>
> Why should I even deal with someone that isn't honest and forthcoming?
>
Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
Big Dog
Nov 8, 2012, 5:07:51 PM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 3:52 PM, mpc755 wrote:
> On Nov 8, 4:44 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>> On 11/8/2012 4:30 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 8, 4:24 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>>> On 11/8/2012 3:08 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>
>>>>>> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>>
>>>>>> Do you believe in god?
>>
>>>>> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>>
>>>> What does that have to do with you believing in god?
>>
>>> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>>
>> Why should I even deal with someone that isn't honest and forthcoming?
>>
>
> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>
Uh oh. Fifteen minutes to Judge Wapner. Judge Wapner. Fifteen minutes.
> On Nov 8, 4:44 pm, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>> On 11/8/2012 4:30 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 8, 4:24 pm, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>>> On 11/8/2012 3:08 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>>
>>>>>> I will answer your question after you answer mine.
>>
>>>>>> Do you believe in god?
>>
>>>>> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>>
>>>> What does that have to do with you believing in god?
>>
>>> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>>
>> Why should I even deal with someone that isn't honest and forthcoming?
>>
>
> Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?
>
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 5:20:57 PM11/8/12
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G=EMC^2
Nov 8, 2012, 6:21:55 PM11/8/12
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partition and creating interference pattern emerging from each slit.
Its simple Its reality. When can I pick up my Nobel..? TeBet
Brad Guth
Nov 8, 2012, 7:55:54 PM11/8/12
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GogoJF
Nov 8, 2012, 8:33:00 PM11/8/12
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"effects" that the double-slit (two aperture) opening does. There are
a set of rules which are necessary in order to produce a double-slit
effect:
1. the aperture size is critical to producing a interference
pattern. Too large or too small of an opening- the effect will not
happen.
2. the space distance between each aperture opening. The fact that
there is a required aperture opening of a specific size coupled with
the fact that each aperture is separated "almost ideally- or
advantaged geometrically- there is established a physical triangle-
that being the size of each aperture, the distance between each
aperture, and the power of the impinging, original light source.
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 8:35:40 PM11/8/12
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double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether passes through both.
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 8:36:09 PM11/8/12
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I was able to get the following added.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_theories#Pilot_waves
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 8:37:38 PM11/8/12
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587
'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a
limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I
feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really
is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've
learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've
lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any
natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to
make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new
systems ought to behave."'
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=new-double-slit-experiment-skirts-uncertainty-principle
"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an
unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave
theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that
takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through
both slits."
A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an
associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the
particle enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated aether
displacement wave which enters and exits both slits. As the aether
wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle
exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave
interference. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave
theory. Strongly detecting the particle turns the associated aether
wave into chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop and
continues on the path it is traveling.
What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.
GogoJF
Nov 8, 2012, 8:57:22 PM11/8/12
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>
> "Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an
> unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave
> theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that
> takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through
> both slits."
>
> A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an
> associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the
> particle enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated aether
> displacement wave which enters and exits both slits. As the aether
> wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle
> exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave
> interference. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave
> theory. Strongly detecting the particle turns the associated aether
> wave into chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop and
> continues on the path it is traveling.
>
> What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.
The interference pattern which is ideally produced is specific in its
> "Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an
> unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave
> theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that
> takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through
> both slits."
>
> A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an
> associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the
> particle enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated aether
> displacement wave which enters and exits both slits. As the aether
> wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle
> exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave
> interference. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave
> theory. Strongly detecting the particle turns the associated aether
> wave into chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop and
> continues on the path it is traveling.
>
> What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.
dimensions. It seems to me the "effect" of the double-slit experiment
is the fact that there is an overwhelming force from the source. It
is not a matter of whether a single photon travels through both slits-
it is more of a pressurized result where the ideal dimension produces
the desired result.
GogoJF
Nov 8, 2012, 9:02:45 PM11/8/12
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hole. The photons could multiply- giving a smaller scintillation of
the interference pattern.
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 9:06:19 PM11/8/12
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single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 9:06:33 PM11/8/12
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single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.
GogoJF
Nov 8, 2012, 9:09:49 PM11/8/12
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"view" that nothing is created without a very good reason.
GogoJF
Nov 8, 2012, 9:14:59 PM11/8/12
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and the result is a subset of photons- instead of space I rely more on
the interactions of the concrete.
GogoJF
Nov 8, 2012, 9:19:36 PM11/8/12
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does in ideal situations restrict illumination.
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 9:30:17 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 9:09 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.
>
> > In a double slit experiment the photon 'particle' travels through a
> > single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.
>
> You have a "space" view and that is a very legitimate view. I have a
> "view" that nothing is created without a very good reason.
'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory -
>
> > A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.
>
> > In a double slit experiment the photon 'particle' travels through a
> > single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.
>
> You have a "space" view and that is a very legitimate view. I have a
> "view" that nothing is created without a very good reason.
Louis de BROGLIE'
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf
“When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics I was
looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles,
of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in
his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the
physical reality of waves and particles.”
“any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous
“energetic contact” with a hidden medium”
The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the aether. The
“energetic contact” is the state of displacement of the aether.
"the particle, precisely located in space at every instant, forms on
the v wave a small region of high energy concentration, which may be
likened in a first approximation, to a moving singularity."
"the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave"
In de Broglie wave mechanics there is a particle AND a wave. The
particle occupies a very small region of the wave.
'Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587
'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a
limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I
feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really
is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've
learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've
lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any
natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to
make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new
systems ought to behave."'
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...inty-principle
"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an
unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave
theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that
takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through
both slits."
A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an
associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the
the aether which passes through both. As the aether wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single
slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference.
This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Strongly
detecting the particle turns the aether wave into chop. The particle
slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference.
This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Strongly
mpc755
Nov 8, 2012, 9:32:11 PM11/8/12
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'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory -
Louis de BROGLIE'
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf
“When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics I was
looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles,
of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in
his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the
physical reality of waves and particles.”
“any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous
“energetic contact” with a hidden medium”
The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the aether. The
“energetic contact” is the state of displacement of the aether.
"the particle, precisely located in space at every instant, forms on
the v wave a small region of high energy concentration, which may be
likened in a first approximation, to a moving singularity."
"the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave"
In de Broglie wave mechanics there is a particle AND a wave. The
particle occupies a very small region of the wave.
Louis de BROGLIE'
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf
“When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics I was
looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles,
of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in
his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the
physical reality of waves and particles.”
“any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous
“energetic contact” with a hidden medium”
The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the aether. The
“energetic contact” is the state of displacement of the aether.
"the particle, precisely located in space at every instant, forms on
the v wave a small region of high energy concentration, which may be
likened in a first approximation, to a moving singularity."
"the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave"
In de Broglie wave mechanics there is a particle AND a wave. The
particle occupies a very small region of the wave.
'Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587
'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a
limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I
feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really
is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've
learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've
lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any
natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to
make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new
systems ought to behave."'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587
'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a
limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I
feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really
is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've
learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've
lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any
natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to
make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new
systems ought to behave."'
'New 'Double Slit' Experiment Skirts Uncertainty Principle'
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=new-double-slit-experiment-skirts-uncertainty-principle
"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an
unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave
theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that
takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through
both slits."
A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an
associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the
particle travels through a single slit. It is the associated wave in
the aether which passes through both. As the aether wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single
slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference.
This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Strongly
detecting the particle turns the aether wave into chop. The particle
slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference.
This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Strongly
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