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Pentcho Valev
Apr 26, 2012, 12:14:28 PM4/26/12
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Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps the most serious challenge ever made to the second law of thermodynamics:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.0161
Self-Charged Graphene Battery Harvests Electricity from Thermal Energy of the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the external environment, which means it is unlimited. However, little study has been reported on converting the ionic thermal energy into electricity. Here we present a graphene device with asymmetric electrodes configuration to capture such ionic thermal energy and convert it into electricity. (...) To exclude the possibility of chemical reaction, we performed control experiments... (...) In conclusion, we could not find any evidences that support the opinion that the induced voltage came from chemical reaction. The mechanism for electricity generation by graphene in solution is a pure physical process..."
Amazingly, the authors did not even mention the second law of thermodynamics. Neither did the few journalists who commented on the event:
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/48889
"Researchers at Hong Kong Polytechnic University claim to have invented a new kind of graphene-based "battery" that runs solely on ambient heat. The device is said to capture the thermal energy of ions in a solution and convert it into electricity."
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-03-graphene-battery-power.html
(PhysOrg.com) -- "Scientists in Hong Kong have reported, in ArXiv, their experiments to make a graphene battery that they say generates an electrical current by drawing on the ambient thermal energy in the solution in which it is immersed."
Thermodynamics has been dead for quite some time. Einstein's relativity is quickly moving in the same direction. Ten years ago it was still possible to make career and money by challenging fundamental principles:
http://www.amazon.com/Trouble-Physics-String-Theory-Science/dp/0618551050
Lee Smolin, The Trouble With Physics: The Rise of String Theory, the Fall of a Science, and What Comes Next, p. 226: "Einstein's special theory of relativity is based on two postulates: One is the relativity of motion, and the second is the constancy and universality of the speed of light. Could the first postulate be true and the other false? If that was not possible, Einstein would not have had to make two postulates. But I don't think many people realized until recently that you could have a consistent theory in which you changed only the second postulate."
http://www.amazon.com/Faster-Than-Speed-Light-Speculation/dp/0738205257
Joao Magueijo, Faster Than the Speed of Light: The Story of a Scientific Speculation, p. 250: "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafés in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All these paradoxes resulted from well known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativity. And all denied the possibility of establishing a well-defined border, common to all observers, capable of containing new quantum gravitational effects."
Nowadays even explicit claims that the speed of light (as measured by the observer) VARIES with the speed of the observer produce no excitement at all:
http://a-levelphysicstutor.com/wav-doppler.php
"vO is the velocity of an observer moving towards the source. This velocity is independent of the motion of the source. Hence, the velocity of waves relative to the observer is c + vO. (...) The motion of an observer does not alter the wavelength. The increase in frequency is a result of the observer encountering more wavelengths in a given time."
http://www.usna.edu/Users/physics/mungan/Scholarship/DopplerEffect.pdf
Carl Mungan: "Consider the case where the observer moves toward the source. In this case, the observer is rushing head-long into the wavefronts... (...) In fact, the wave speed is simply increased by the observer speed, as we can see by jumping into the observer's frame of reference."
http://www.hep.man.ac.uk/u/roger/PHYS10302/lecture18.pdf
Roger Barlow, Professor of Particle Physics: "Moving Observer. Now suppose the source is fixed but the observer is moving towards the source, with speed v. In time t, ct/(lambda) waves pass a fixed point. A moving point adds another vt/(lambda). So f'=(c+v)/(lambda)."
http://www.cmmp.ucl.ac.uk/~ahh/teaching/1B24n/lect19.pdf
Tony Harker, University College London: "If the observer moves with a speed Vo away from the source (...), then in a time t the number of waves which reach the observer are those in a distance (c-Vo)t, so the number of waves observed is (c-Vo)t/lambda, giving an observed frequency f'=f((c-Vo)/c) when the observer is moving away from the source at a speed Vo."
http://www.einstein-online.info/spotlights/doppler
Albert Einstein Institute: "As the receiver moves towards each pulse, the time until pulse and receiver meet up is shortened. In this particular animation, which has the receiver moving towards the source at one third the speed of the pulses themselves, four pulses are received in the time it takes the source to emit three pulses [that is, the speed of light as measured by the receiver is (4/3)c]."
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.0161
Self-Charged Graphene Battery Harvests Electricity from Thermal Energy of the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the external environment, which means it is unlimited. However, little study has been reported on converting the ionic thermal energy into electricity. Here we present a graphene device with asymmetric electrodes configuration to capture such ionic thermal energy and convert it into electricity. (...) To exclude the possibility of chemical reaction, we performed control experiments... (...) In conclusion, we could not find any evidences that support the opinion that the induced voltage came from chemical reaction. The mechanism for electricity generation by graphene in solution is a pure physical process..."
Amazingly, the authors did not even mention the second law of thermodynamics. Neither did the few journalists who commented on the event:
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/48889
"Researchers at Hong Kong Polytechnic University claim to have invented a new kind of graphene-based "battery" that runs solely on ambient heat. The device is said to capture the thermal energy of ions in a solution and convert it into electricity."
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-03-graphene-battery-power.html
(PhysOrg.com) -- "Scientists in Hong Kong have reported, in ArXiv, their experiments to make a graphene battery that they say generates an electrical current by drawing on the ambient thermal energy in the solution in which it is immersed."
Thermodynamics has been dead for quite some time. Einstein's relativity is quickly moving in the same direction. Ten years ago it was still possible to make career and money by challenging fundamental principles:
http://www.amazon.com/Trouble-Physics-String-Theory-Science/dp/0618551050
Lee Smolin, The Trouble With Physics: The Rise of String Theory, the Fall of a Science, and What Comes Next, p. 226: "Einstein's special theory of relativity is based on two postulates: One is the relativity of motion, and the second is the constancy and universality of the speed of light. Could the first postulate be true and the other false? If that was not possible, Einstein would not have had to make two postulates. But I don't think many people realized until recently that you could have a consistent theory in which you changed only the second postulate."
http://www.amazon.com/Faster-Than-Speed-Light-Speculation/dp/0738205257
Joao Magueijo, Faster Than the Speed of Light: The Story of a Scientific Speculation, p. 250: "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafés in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All these paradoxes resulted from well known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativity. And all denied the possibility of establishing a well-defined border, common to all observers, capable of containing new quantum gravitational effects."
Nowadays even explicit claims that the speed of light (as measured by the observer) VARIES with the speed of the observer produce no excitement at all:
http://a-levelphysicstutor.com/wav-doppler.php
"vO is the velocity of an observer moving towards the source. This velocity is independent of the motion of the source. Hence, the velocity of waves relative to the observer is c + vO. (...) The motion of an observer does not alter the wavelength. The increase in frequency is a result of the observer encountering more wavelengths in a given time."
http://www.usna.edu/Users/physics/mungan/Scholarship/DopplerEffect.pdf
Carl Mungan: "Consider the case where the observer moves toward the source. In this case, the observer is rushing head-long into the wavefronts... (...) In fact, the wave speed is simply increased by the observer speed, as we can see by jumping into the observer's frame of reference."
http://www.hep.man.ac.uk/u/roger/PHYS10302/lecture18.pdf
Roger Barlow, Professor of Particle Physics: "Moving Observer. Now suppose the source is fixed but the observer is moving towards the source, with speed v. In time t, ct/(lambda) waves pass a fixed point. A moving point adds another vt/(lambda). So f'=(c+v)/(lambda)."
http://www.cmmp.ucl.ac.uk/~ahh/teaching/1B24n/lect19.pdf
Tony Harker, University College London: "If the observer moves with a speed Vo away from the source (...), then in a time t the number of waves which reach the observer are those in a distance (c-Vo)t, so the number of waves observed is (c-Vo)t/lambda, giving an observed frequency f'=f((c-Vo)/c) when the observer is moving away from the source at a speed Vo."
http://www.einstein-online.info/spotlights/doppler
Albert Einstein Institute: "As the receiver moves towards each pulse, the time until pulse and receiver meet up is shortened. In this particular animation, which has the receiver moving towards the source at one third the speed of the pulses themselves, four pulses are received in the time it takes the source to emit three pulses [that is, the speed of light as measured by the receiver is (4/3)c]."
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
Androcles
Apr 26, 2012, 1:50:34 PM4/26/12
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"Pentcho Valev" <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:19792649.2093.1335456939165.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbcg6...
Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps the most serious
challenge ever made to the second law of thermodynamics:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.0161
Self-Charged Graphene Battery Harvests Electricity from Thermal Energy of
the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the thermal velocity of ions can
be maintained by the external environment, which means it is unlimited.
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challenge ever made to the second law of thermodynamics:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.0161
Self-Charged Graphene Battery Harvests Electricity from Thermal Energy of
the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the thermal velocity of ions can
be maintained by the external environment, which means it is unlimited.
Then it doesn't challenge the second law, you dork.
LOOK!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cell
FREE unlimited electricity from the external environment!
Sometimes you are a total pillock, Valev.
Pentcho Valev
Apr 27, 2012, 12:57:02 AM4/27/12
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http://canadianjuniorreport.com/graphene-battery-turns-ambient-heat-into-electric-current
"Physicists have built a graphene battery that harvests energy from the thermal movement of ions in solution. (...) When an ion smashes into the graphene strip, the collision generates enough energy to kick a delocalised electron out of the graphene. The electron then has two options: it can either leave the graphene strip and combine with the copper ion or it can travel through the graphene strip and into the circuit. It turns out that the mobility of electrons is much higher in graphene than it is through the solution, so the electron naturally chooses the route through the circuit. It is this that lights up the LED. "The released electrons prefer to travel across the graphene surface...instead of going into the electrolyte solution. That is how the voltage was produced by our device," say Zihan and co. So the energy generated by this device comes from ambient heat. These guys say there were able to increase the current by heating the solution and also by accelerating the copper ions with ultrasound. They even claim to have kept their graphene battery running for 20 days on nothing but ambient heat. But there's an important question mark. One alternative hypothesis is that some kind of chemical reaction is generating the current, just as in an ordinary battery. However, Zihan and co say they ruled this out with a couple of control experiments."
So if the current is not generated by a chemical reaction, this is a violation of the second law of thermodynamics par excellence. Is it so unnatural that some particular ions easily kick a delocalised electron out of the graphene? Perhaps not - it seems that, for graphene, the process is easy in general:
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2012/apr/25/graphene-emits-infrared-light
"For example, it [the graphene] has an ideal "internal quantum efficiency" because almost every photon absorbed by graphene generates an electron-hole pair that could, in principle, be converted into electric current."
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
"Physicists have built a graphene battery that harvests energy from the thermal movement of ions in solution. (...) When an ion smashes into the graphene strip, the collision generates enough energy to kick a delocalised electron out of the graphene. The electron then has two options: it can either leave the graphene strip and combine with the copper ion or it can travel through the graphene strip and into the circuit. It turns out that the mobility of electrons is much higher in graphene than it is through the solution, so the electron naturally chooses the route through the circuit. It is this that lights up the LED. "The released electrons prefer to travel across the graphene surface...instead of going into the electrolyte solution. That is how the voltage was produced by our device," say Zihan and co. So the energy generated by this device comes from ambient heat. These guys say there were able to increase the current by heating the solution and also by accelerating the copper ions with ultrasound. They even claim to have kept their graphene battery running for 20 days on nothing but ambient heat. But there's an important question mark. One alternative hypothesis is that some kind of chemical reaction is generating the current, just as in an ordinary battery. However, Zihan and co say they ruled this out with a couple of control experiments."
So if the current is not generated by a chemical reaction, this is a violation of the second law of thermodynamics par excellence. Is it so unnatural that some particular ions easily kick a delocalised electron out of the graphene? Perhaps not - it seems that, for graphene, the process is easy in general:
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2012/apr/25/graphene-emits-infrared-light
"For example, it [the graphene] has an ideal "internal quantum efficiency" because almost every photon absorbed by graphene generates an electron-hole pair that could, in principle, be converted into electric current."
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
Androcles
Apr 27, 2012, 1:36:31 AM4/27/12
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Clueless babbling idiot par excellence, why not use the energy to heat the
ions to generate more energy to create more heat and you'll have it lift
itself by its own bootstraps.
Valev the perpetual motion crank.
http://canadianjuniorreport.com/graphene-battery-turns-ambient-heat-into-electric-current
"Physicists have built a graphene battery that harvests energy from the
thermal movement of ions in solution. (...) So if the current is not
"Physicists have built a graphene battery that harvests energy from the
generated by a chemical reaction, this is a violation of the second law of
thermodynamics par excellence.
=================
thermodynamics par excellence.
Clueless babbling idiot par excellence, why not use the energy to heat the
ions to generate more energy to create more heat and you'll have it lift
itself by its own bootstraps.
Valev the perpetual motion crank.
Pentcho Valev
Apr 27, 2012, 6:05:27 AM4/27/12
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Dead science is neither right nor wrong insofar as, of all the official scientists, not one could think of a reason why the truthfulness of the axioms or the consistency of the consequences should be discussed. Yet Lee Smolin needs more evidence of science's death and sets a decisive experiment: "Would FQXi pay me if I suddenly declare that Divine Albert's Divine Theory is deeply wrong? If they do and if there is no other reaction, then this science couldn't be more dead!"
Smolin's experiment proved successful:
http://www.fqxi.org/community/articles/display/148
"Many physicists argue that time is an illusion. Lee Smolin begs to differ. (...) Smolin wishes to hold on to the reality of time. But to do so, he must overcome a major hurdle: General and special relativity seem to imply the opposite. In the classical Newtonian view, physics operated according to the ticking of an invisible universal clock. But Einstein threw out that master clock when, in his theory of special relativity, he argued that no two events are truly simultaneous unless they are causally related. If simultaneity - the notion of "now" - is relative, the universal clock must be a fiction, and time itself a proxy for the movement and change of objects in the universe. Time is literally written out of the equation. Although he has spent much of his career exploring the facets of a "timeless" universe, Smolin has become convinced that this is "deeply wrong," he says. He now believes that time is more than just a useful approximation, that it is as real as our guts tell us it is - more real, in fact, than space itself. The notion of a "real and global time" is the starting hypothesis for Smolin's new work, which he will undertake this year with two graduate students supported by a $47,500 grant from FQXi."
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
Smolin's experiment proved successful:
http://www.fqxi.org/community/articles/display/148
"Many physicists argue that time is an illusion. Lee Smolin begs to differ. (...) Smolin wishes to hold on to the reality of time. But to do so, he must overcome a major hurdle: General and special relativity seem to imply the opposite. In the classical Newtonian view, physics operated according to the ticking of an invisible universal clock. But Einstein threw out that master clock when, in his theory of special relativity, he argued that no two events are truly simultaneous unless they are causally related. If simultaneity - the notion of "now" - is relative, the universal clock must be a fiction, and time itself a proxy for the movement and change of objects in the universe. Time is literally written out of the equation. Although he has spent much of his career exploring the facets of a "timeless" universe, Smolin has become convinced that this is "deeply wrong," he says. He now believes that time is more than just a useful approximation, that it is as real as our guts tell us it is - more real, in fact, than space itself. The notion of a "real and global time" is the starting hypothesis for Smolin's new work, which he will undertake this year with two graduate students supported by a $47,500 grant from FQXi."
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
Androcles
Apr 27, 2012, 6:40:03 AM4/27/12
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Clueless babbling idiot par excellence, why not use the energy to heat the
ions to generate more energy to create more heat and you'll have it lift
itself by its own bootstraps?
ions to generate more energy to create more heat and you'll have it lift
Pentcho Valev
Apr 28, 2012, 1:24:02 AM4/28/12
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Proving that false science is false is difficult; proving that dead science is dead is impossible. Those who try sooner or later find themselves in Mr. Praline's situation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218
Owner: Oh yes, the, uh, the Norwegian Blue...What's,uh...What's wrong with it?
Mr. Praline: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it!
Owner: No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.
Mr. Praline: Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.
Owner: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!
........................
Mr. Praline: No, I'm sorry! I'm not prepared to pursue my line of inquiry any longer as I think this is getting too silly!
______________________________
[end of quotation]
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218
Owner: Oh yes, the, uh, the Norwegian Blue...What's,uh...What's wrong with it?
Mr. Praline: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it!
Owner: No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.
Mr. Praline: Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.
Owner: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!
........................
Mr. Praline: No, I'm sorry! I'm not prepared to pursue my line of inquiry any longer as I think this is getting too silly!
______________________________
[end of quotation]
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
Pentcho Valev
Apr 28, 2012, 10:37:38 AM4/28/12
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http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Development_of_Our_Views_on_the_Composition_and_Essence_of_Radiation
Albert Einstein (1909): "A large body of facts shows undeniably that light has certain fundamental properties that are better explained by Newton's emission theory of light than by the oscillation theory."
One of those properties is the variability of the speed of light - the speed of photons varies exactly as the speed of cannonballs does. This means that, if light is considered as a continuous field of waves, one may be misled into believing that its speed is independent of the motion of the light source. In 1954 Einstein suggested that this false belief (Einstein's 1905 light postulate) had in fact killed physics:
http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf/files/975547d7-2d00-433a-b7e3-4a09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein (1954): "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures. Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary physics."
Clues showing that "field concept" and "continuous structures" are implicit references to Einstein's 1905 false light postulate:
http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0101/0101109.pdf
"The two first articles (January and March) establish clearly a discontinuous structure of matter and light. The standard look of Einstein's SR is, on the contrary, essentially based on the continuous conception of the field."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/genius/
"And then, in June, Einstein completes special relativity, which adds a twist to the story: Einstein's March paper treated light as particles, but special relativity sees light as a continuous field of waves."
http://www.amazon.com/Relativity-Its-Roots-Banesh-Hoffmann/dp/0486406768
Relativity and Its Roots, Banesh Hoffmann: "Moreover, if light consists of particles, as Einstein had suggested in his paper submitted just thirteen weeks before this one, the second principle seems absurd: A stone thrown from a speeding train can do far more damage than one thrown from a train at rest; the speed of the particle is not independent of the motion of the object emitting it. And if we take light to consist of particles and assume that these particles obey Newton's laws, they will conform to Newtonian relativity and thus automatically account for the null result of the Michelson-Morley experiment without recourse to contracting lengths, local time, or Lorentz transformations. Yet, as we have seen, Einstein resisted the temptation to account for the null result in terms of particles of light and simple, familiar Newtonian ideas, and introduced as his second postulate something that was more or less obvious when thought of in terms of waves in an ether."
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
Albert Einstein (1909): "A large body of facts shows undeniably that light has certain fundamental properties that are better explained by Newton's emission theory of light than by the oscillation theory."
One of those properties is the variability of the speed of light - the speed of photons varies exactly as the speed of cannonballs does. This means that, if light is considered as a continuous field of waves, one may be misled into believing that its speed is independent of the motion of the light source. In 1954 Einstein suggested that this false belief (Einstein's 1905 light postulate) had in fact killed physics:
http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf/files/975547d7-2d00-433a-b7e3-4a09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein (1954): "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures. Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary physics."
Clues showing that "field concept" and "continuous structures" are implicit references to Einstein's 1905 false light postulate:
http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0101/0101109.pdf
"The two first articles (January and March) establish clearly a discontinuous structure of matter and light. The standard look of Einstein's SR is, on the contrary, essentially based on the continuous conception of the field."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/genius/
"And then, in June, Einstein completes special relativity, which adds a twist to the story: Einstein's March paper treated light as particles, but special relativity sees light as a continuous field of waves."
http://www.amazon.com/Relativity-Its-Roots-Banesh-Hoffmann/dp/0486406768
Relativity and Its Roots, Banesh Hoffmann: "Moreover, if light consists of particles, as Einstein had suggested in his paper submitted just thirteen weeks before this one, the second principle seems absurd: A stone thrown from a speeding train can do far more damage than one thrown from a train at rest; the speed of the particle is not independent of the motion of the object emitting it. And if we take light to consist of particles and assume that these particles obey Newton's laws, they will conform to Newtonian relativity and thus automatically account for the null result of the Michelson-Morley experiment without recourse to contracting lengths, local time, or Lorentz transformations. Yet, as we have seen, Einstein resisted the temptation to account for the null result in terms of particles of light and simple, familiar Newtonian ideas, and introduced as his second postulate something that was more or less obvious when thought of in terms of waves in an ether."
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
Pentcho Valev
Apr 29, 2012, 1:40:28 AM4/29/12
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Jean-Marc Lévy-Leblond, like Lee Smolin, needs more evidence of science's death and sets a decisive experiment: "Would I become the most famous Einsteinian in France if I suddenly declare that Einstein's 1905 second (light) postulate is obsolete? Brothers Einsteinians in France and all over the world, let me inform you that the speed of light could be variable (the light postulate could be false) and yet Divine Albert's Divine Theory would remain unaffected, yes we all believe in relativity, relativity, relativity!":
http://o.castera.free.fr/pdf/Chronogeometrie.pdf
Jean-Marc Lévy-Leblond "De la relativité à la chronogéométrie ou: Pour en finir avec le "second postulat" et autres fossiles": "D'autre part, nous savons aujourd'hui que l'invariance de la vitesse de la lumière est une conséquence de la nullité de la masse du photon. Mais, empiriquement, cette masse, aussi faible soit son actuelle borne supérieure expérimentale, ne peut et ne pourra jamais être considérée avec certitude comme rigoureusement nulle. Il se pourrait même que de futures mesures mettent en évidence une masse infime, mais non-nulle, du photon ; la lumière alors n'irait plus à la "vitesse de la lumière", ou, plus précisément, la vitesse de la lumière, désormais variable, ne s'identifierait plus à la vitesse limite invariante. Les procédures opérationnelles mises en jeu par le "second postulat" deviendraient caduques ipso facto. La théorie elle-même en serait-elle invalidée ? Heureusement, il n'en est rien ; mais, pour s'en assurer, il convient de la refonder sur des bases plus solides, et d'ailleurs plus économiques. En vérité, le premier postulat suffit, à la condition de l'exploiter à fond."
http://o.castera.free.fr/pdf/bup.pdf
Jean-Marc Lévy-Leblond: "Supposez que demain un expérimentateur soit capable de vraiment mettre la main sur le photon, et de dire qu'il n'a pas une masse nulle. Qu'il a une masse de, mettons 10^(-60)kg. Sa masse n'est pas nulle, et du coup la lumière ne va plus à la "vitesse de la lumière". Vous pouvez imaginer les gros titres dans les journaux : "La théorie de la relativité s'effondre", "Einstein s'est trompé", etc. Or cette éventuelle observation ne serait en rien contradictoire avec la théorie de la relativité ! Einstein a certe construit sa théorie en analysant des échanges de signaux lumineux propagés à la vitesse limite. Si on trouve que le photon a une masse non-nulle, ce sera que cette vitesse n'est pas la vitesse limite, et la démonstration initiale s'effondre donc. Mais ce n'est pas parce qu'une démonstration est erronée que son résultat est faux ! Quand vous avez une table à plusieurs pieds, vous pouvez en couper un, elle continue à tenir debout. Et heureusement, la théorie de la relativité a plusieurs pieds."
Lévy-Leblond's experiment proved successful: He did become the most famous Einsteinian in France and concluded that science couldn't be more dead:
http://www.autodidactproject.org/other/rose_sci_2/physics_ideology_2.html
Ideology of/in Contemporary Physics, Jean-Marc Lévy-Leblond: "In this way, major advances in modern physics, especially in relativity and quantum mechanics, have paradoxically fed an intensely irrational current. (...) Modern physics appears as a collection of mathematical formulae, whose only justification is that 'they work'. Moreover, the 'examples' used to 'concretise' the knowledge are often totally unreal, and actually have the effect of making it even more abstract. Such is the case when the explanation of special relativity is based on the consideration of the entirely fictitious spatial and temporal behaviour of clocks and trains (today sometimes one speaks of rockets . . . it sounds better . . . but it is as stupid!). (...) A closed arduous, forbidding education, which stresses technical manipulation more than conceptual understanding, in which neither past difficulties nor future problems in the search for knowledge appear, perfectly fulfils two essential roles: to promote hierarchisation and the 'elite' spirit on behalf of a science shown as being intrinsically difficult, to be within the reach of only a few privileged individuals; and to impose a purely operational technical concept of knowledge, far from a true conceptual understanding, which would necessarily be critical and thus would reveal the limits of this knowledge."
http://www.archipope.net/article-12278372-6.html
"Nous nous trouvons dans une période de mutation extrêmement profonde. Nous sommes en effet à la fin de la science telle que l'Occident l'a connue », tel est constat actuel que dresse Jean-Marc Lévy-Leblond, physicien théoricien, épistémologue et directeur des collections scientifiques des Editions du Seuil."
http://www.inra.fr/dpenv/pdf/LevyLeblondC56.pdf
Jean-Marc Lévy-Leblond: "Il est peut-être trop tard. Rien ne prouve, je le dis avec quelque gravité, que nous soyons capables d'opérer aujourd'hui ces nécessaires mutations. L'histoire, précisément, nous montre que, dans l'histoire des civilisations, les grands épisodes scientifiques sont terminés... (...) Rien ne garantit donc que dans les siècles à venir, notre civilisation, désormais mondiale, continue à garder à la science en tant que telle la place qu'elle a eue pendant quelques siècles."
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
http://o.castera.free.fr/pdf/Chronogeometrie.pdf
Jean-Marc Lévy-Leblond "De la relativité à la chronogéométrie ou: Pour en finir avec le "second postulat" et autres fossiles": "D'autre part, nous savons aujourd'hui que l'invariance de la vitesse de la lumière est une conséquence de la nullité de la masse du photon. Mais, empiriquement, cette masse, aussi faible soit son actuelle borne supérieure expérimentale, ne peut et ne pourra jamais être considérée avec certitude comme rigoureusement nulle. Il se pourrait même que de futures mesures mettent en évidence une masse infime, mais non-nulle, du photon ; la lumière alors n'irait plus à la "vitesse de la lumière", ou, plus précisément, la vitesse de la lumière, désormais variable, ne s'identifierait plus à la vitesse limite invariante. Les procédures opérationnelles mises en jeu par le "second postulat" deviendraient caduques ipso facto. La théorie elle-même en serait-elle invalidée ? Heureusement, il n'en est rien ; mais, pour s'en assurer, il convient de la refonder sur des bases plus solides, et d'ailleurs plus économiques. En vérité, le premier postulat suffit, à la condition de l'exploiter à fond."
http://o.castera.free.fr/pdf/bup.pdf
Jean-Marc Lévy-Leblond: "Supposez que demain un expérimentateur soit capable de vraiment mettre la main sur le photon, et de dire qu'il n'a pas une masse nulle. Qu'il a une masse de, mettons 10^(-60)kg. Sa masse n'est pas nulle, et du coup la lumière ne va plus à la "vitesse de la lumière". Vous pouvez imaginer les gros titres dans les journaux : "La théorie de la relativité s'effondre", "Einstein s'est trompé", etc. Or cette éventuelle observation ne serait en rien contradictoire avec la théorie de la relativité ! Einstein a certe construit sa théorie en analysant des échanges de signaux lumineux propagés à la vitesse limite. Si on trouve que le photon a une masse non-nulle, ce sera que cette vitesse n'est pas la vitesse limite, et la démonstration initiale s'effondre donc. Mais ce n'est pas parce qu'une démonstration est erronée que son résultat est faux ! Quand vous avez une table à plusieurs pieds, vous pouvez en couper un, elle continue à tenir debout. Et heureusement, la théorie de la relativité a plusieurs pieds."
Lévy-Leblond's experiment proved successful: He did become the most famous Einsteinian in France and concluded that science couldn't be more dead:
http://www.autodidactproject.org/other/rose_sci_2/physics_ideology_2.html
Ideology of/in Contemporary Physics, Jean-Marc Lévy-Leblond: "In this way, major advances in modern physics, especially in relativity and quantum mechanics, have paradoxically fed an intensely irrational current. (...) Modern physics appears as a collection of mathematical formulae, whose only justification is that 'they work'. Moreover, the 'examples' used to 'concretise' the knowledge are often totally unreal, and actually have the effect of making it even more abstract. Such is the case when the explanation of special relativity is based on the consideration of the entirely fictitious spatial and temporal behaviour of clocks and trains (today sometimes one speaks of rockets . . . it sounds better . . . but it is as stupid!). (...) A closed arduous, forbidding education, which stresses technical manipulation more than conceptual understanding, in which neither past difficulties nor future problems in the search for knowledge appear, perfectly fulfils two essential roles: to promote hierarchisation and the 'elite' spirit on behalf of a science shown as being intrinsically difficult, to be within the reach of only a few privileged individuals; and to impose a purely operational technical concept of knowledge, far from a true conceptual understanding, which would necessarily be critical and thus would reveal the limits of this knowledge."
http://www.archipope.net/article-12278372-6.html
"Nous nous trouvons dans une période de mutation extrêmement profonde. Nous sommes en effet à la fin de la science telle que l'Occident l'a connue », tel est constat actuel que dresse Jean-Marc Lévy-Leblond, physicien théoricien, épistémologue et directeur des collections scientifiques des Editions du Seuil."
http://www.inra.fr/dpenv/pdf/LevyLeblondC56.pdf
Jean-Marc Lévy-Leblond: "Il est peut-être trop tard. Rien ne prouve, je le dis avec quelque gravité, que nous soyons capables d'opérer aujourd'hui ces nécessaires mutations. L'histoire, précisément, nous montre que, dans l'histoire des civilisations, les grands épisodes scientifiques sont terminés... (...) Rien ne garantit donc que dans les siècles à venir, notre civilisation, désormais mondiale, continue à garder à la science en tant que telle la place qu'elle a eue pendant quelques siècles."
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
Pentcho Valev
Apr 29, 2012, 9:37:00 AM4/29/12
to
Julian Barbour also needs more evidence of science's death and sets a decisive experiment: "Would FQXi pay me if I suddenly declare that the simultaneity is absolute (not relative as Divine Albert taught) and that the cosmological redshift is not due to an expansion of the universe? If they do pay me and if there is no other reaction, then this science couldn't be more dead!"
http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/cross_fac/ias/earlycareer/events/time/programme/julian_barbour.pdf
Aspects of Time, Julian Barbour, Warwick, August 24th 2011: "Was Spacetime Glorious Historical Accident? (...) ABSOLUTE SIMULTANEITY RESTORED!"
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/gr-qc/pdf/0211/0211021v2.pdf
Julian Barbour: "The greatest need is for an EXPLANATION OF THE HUBBLE RED SHIFT THAT DOES NOT RELY ON EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE."
Barbour's experiment proved successful:
http://platonia.com/research.html
Julian Barbour: "In 2008 I received funding from the Foundational Questions Institute (fqxi.org) for my two-year research proposal Machian Quantum Gravity. The detailed proposal is here (pdf). In January 2011 I received further research funding for another two-year period for the project The Nature of Time and the Structure of Space (pdf). This new project follows on naturally from the first project, bulding on results obtained in it."
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/cross_fac/ias/earlycareer/events/time/programme/julian_barbour.pdf
Aspects of Time, Julian Barbour, Warwick, August 24th 2011: "Was Spacetime Glorious Historical Accident? (...) ABSOLUTE SIMULTANEITY RESTORED!"
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/gr-qc/pdf/0211/0211021v2.pdf
Julian Barbour: "The greatest need is for an EXPLANATION OF THE HUBBLE RED SHIFT THAT DOES NOT RELY ON EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE."
Barbour's experiment proved successful:
http://platonia.com/research.html
Julian Barbour: "In 2008 I received funding from the Foundational Questions Institute (fqxi.org) for my two-year research proposal Machian Quantum Gravity. The detailed proposal is here (pdf). In January 2011 I received further research funding for another two-year period for the project The Nature of Time and the Structure of Space (pdf). This new project follows on naturally from the first project, bulding on results obtained in it."
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
Arindam Banerjee
Apr 29, 2012, 10:52:56 PM4/29/12
to
On Apr 30, 5:25 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <8477dd69-0561-4445-9582-d58a70924...@qg3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
>
> > > On Apr 28, 3:31=A0pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps the most serious chall=
> > > enge ever made to the second law of thermodynamics:
>
> > > Just great!
> > > Not just entropy and relativity, quantum rubbish has to go as well.
> > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for better technologies.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > c(V)=3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > e=3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
>
> > Dhanyavaad for your post. The following is consistent
> > with what you have posted earlier, so your ideas and work
> > predate it:
>
> > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the
>
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> "Entropy" is mentioned. You went to the IIT, don't you
> recall what big confusion the concepts of "entropy" cause
> in students and professors alike!
It was a clumsy notion (a mathematical construct) to cover up the fact
that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it was done to save the
first law, that of
conservation of energy. Now to "prove" that they took the example of
the pendulum, how it was constantly changing from kinetic to
potential; but if it banged
against something, all that energy would not really be destroyed, but
go to increase the entropy of the universe as the heat from that
impact would be dissipated
into the mathematical notion of entropy, that is, the increase of
disorder in the universe. And to study entropy in detail, we have to
study the Carnot cycle, the dQ/T bit... heat engines are the main key
to
understand how entropy works, that is, how to decrease entropy meant
making more efficient engines. So really the concept of entropy has
to do with heat
engines, how to get maximum work out of heat. To that extent, it has
been useful as a notion and indeed with this concept it was possible
to make more efficient
heat engines. It was thus not as totally useless as relativity, since
it did have a technical basis.
Now we have cold engines so to say, like solar power to electric to
motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used to in the 19th
century. But, unfortunately, the
concept of entropy has been as much woven into science as the law of
conservation of energy. Feynman did his best to explain entropy but I
never found anyone
who really thought that entropy made any real sense. I also passed a
course in quantum mechanics. It required suspension of disbelief,
rather like Hindi movies.
Also, a more useless course could never be found, but at that time how
was I to know that? But in later professional work, when I was the
only one to make
huge and small antennas work, I found out how totally useless and
worthless that was, and relied totally upon the laws of Maxwell
(electromagnetic wave propagation,
circuit theory related to microwave impedance matching, etc.)
Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <8477dd69-0561-4445-9582-d58a70924...@qg3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
>
> > > On Apr 28, 3:31=A0pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps the most serious chall=
> > > enge ever made to the second law of thermodynamics:
>
> > > Just great!
> > > Not just entropy and relativity, quantum rubbish has to go as well.
> > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for better technologies.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > c(V)=3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > e=3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
>
> > Dhanyavaad for your post. The following is consistent
> > with what you have posted earlier, so your ideas and work
> > predate it:
>
> > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the
> > thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the
> > external environment, which means it is unlimited...."
>
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> "Entropy" is mentioned. You went to the IIT, don't you
> recall what big confusion the concepts of "entropy" cause
> in students and professors alike!
It was a clumsy notion (a mathematical construct) to cover up the fact
that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it was done to save the
first law, that of
conservation of energy. Now to "prove" that they took the example of
the pendulum, how it was constantly changing from kinetic to
potential; but if it banged
against something, all that energy would not really be destroyed, but
go to increase the entropy of the universe as the heat from that
impact would be dissipated
into the mathematical notion of entropy, that is, the increase of
disorder in the universe. And to study entropy in detail, we have to
study the Carnot cycle, the dQ/T bit... heat engines are the main key
to
understand how entropy works, that is, how to decrease entropy meant
making more efficient engines. So really the concept of entropy has
to do with heat
engines, how to get maximum work out of heat. To that extent, it has
been useful as a notion and indeed with this concept it was possible
to make more efficient
heat engines. It was thus not as totally useless as relativity, since
it did have a technical basis.
Now we have cold engines so to say, like solar power to electric to
motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used to in the 19th
century. But, unfortunately, the
concept of entropy has been as much woven into science as the law of
conservation of energy. Feynman did his best to explain entropy but I
never found anyone
who really thought that entropy made any real sense. I also passed a
course in quantum mechanics. It required suspension of disbelief,
rather like Hindi movies.
Also, a more useless course could never be found, but at that time how
was I to know that? But in later professional work, when I was the
only one to make
huge and small antennas work, I found out how totally useless and
worthless that was, and relied totally upon the laws of Maxwell
(electromagnetic wave propagation,
circuit theory related to microwave impedance matching, etc.)
Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
Sam Wormley
Apr 29, 2012, 10:58:18 PM4/29/12
to
On 4/29/12 9:52 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
Or Arindam Banerjee needs some physics education. :-o
> Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 29, 2012, 11:06:39 PM4/29/12
to
In article <rPCdnccQAodXYgDS...@mchsi.com>,
Sam Wormley <swor...@gmail.com> posted:
He must have studied the parts that need revision.
Sam Wormley <swor...@gmail.com> posted:
DMJoshi
Apr 30, 2012, 1:32:07 AM4/30/12
to
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
Apr 30, 2012, 2:00:39 AM4/30/12
to
fiction, which Lady Kaka will make into Bollywood movies like Ra-One.
--
VB, Ubetjotushy
'ome=shanty
-----
The Baboon Squad
Dr. Muckeraj, aka Lady Kaka, aka Kakadevi, aka The Old Cow of Hawaii,
and her faithful monkey, Fanabba, aka Poochie, are rabid evangelical
Christians. The Baboon Squad, as Kakadevi and Pooch call themselves,
hates Hindus, Muslims, and Catholics, and the US too, which makes them
copy-paste trash 24/7. The transgender idiot, Kakadevi, claims to be a
"scholar" of Sanskrit, but hasn't demonstrated any knowledge or mastery
of it. However, there is plenty of evidence of attempts made by
Macaulay's monkey to "doctor" original articles to pidginize Sanskrit
words, perhaps to send Sanskrit into the gutter. The "doctorate" that
Kakadevi claims to have is likely for copy-paste research on the myriad
applications of cowdung. Other than some stock phrases that are
copy-pasted regularly, the Cosmic Baboon has shown no originality or
creativity, nor has the monkey contributed anything of value to any
discussion. Macaulay's other monkey, who, apart from saying "ditto" to
Kaka's caca, has no other skills than spraying fire hydrants with raised
hindquarters.
DMJoshi
Apr 30, 2012, 2:14:42 AM4/30/12
to
On Apr 30, 7:00 am, "Myself Mallu, Yourself?"
<KalluMallu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/29/2012 10:32 PM, DMJoshi wrote:
>
> > On Apr 30, 3:58 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 4/29/12 9:52 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>
> >>> Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Arindam Banerjee
>
> >> Or Arindam Banerjee needs some physics education. :-o
>
> > Bandicoot is taking physics education from Monkey Maharaj lately.
>
> No, not in physics. Arindumb is getting trained in writing science
> fiction, which Lady Kaka will make into Bollywood movies like Ra-One.
Bandicoot will be very unhappy. It cannot have anything but Hollywood.
> On 4/29/2012 10:32 PM, DMJoshi wrote:
>
> > On Apr 30, 3:58 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 4/29/12 9:52 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>
> >>> Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Arindam Banerjee
>
> >> Or Arindam Banerjee needs some physics education. :-o
>
> > Bandicoot is taking physics education from Monkey Maharaj lately.
>
> No, not in physics. Arindumb is getting trained in writing science
> fiction, which Lady Kaka will make into Bollywood movies like Ra-One.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Apr 30, 2012, 2:35:15 AM4/30/12
to
In article <45e14266-9447-4572...@t2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
> > > > e=3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from, and
audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
(working title) project was offered in less than five
minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
the "New Movie..." thread.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
o o o
About the terrorist Goon Squad:
"Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
<KalluM...@gmail.com> tries his best to be a bully --
telling others what and when to post, where to post and
where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
<us...@this.com>, and issues *death threats* to people),
is priming himself for conditions such as stroke and
heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" <jos...@gmail.com> who
displays unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and
the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
favorite now is "fana...@gmail.com" (note the extra "b"
and "gmail.com") to make it appear as if the posts are
from "fan...@aol.com", who has been a regular poster for
many years.
-Updated on February 2, 2012-
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > In article
> > > =A0<8477dd69-0561-4445-9582-d58a70924...@qg3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > In article
> > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > On Apr 28, 3:31=3DA0pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps the most serious
> > > > challenge ever made to the second law of thermodynamics:
> >
> > > > On Apr 28, 3:31=3DA0pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps the most serious
> >
> > > > Just great!
> > > > Not just entropy and relativity, quantum rubbish has to go as well.
> > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for better technologies.
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > c(V)=3D3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > > Just great!
> > > > Not just entropy and relativity, quantum rubbish has to go as well.
> > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for better technologies.
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > e=3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
(working title) project was offered in less than five
minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
the "New Movie..." thread.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
About the terrorist Goon Squad:
"Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
<KalluM...@gmail.com> tries his best to be a bully --
telling others what and when to post, where to post and
where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
<us...@this.com>, and issues *death threats* to people),
is priming himself for conditions such as stroke and
heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" <jos...@gmail.com> who
displays unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and
the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
favorite now is "fana...@gmail.com" (note the extra "b"
and "gmail.com") to make it appear as if the posts are
from "fan...@aol.com", who has been a regular poster for
many years.
-Updated on February 2, 2012-
Will Janoschka
Apr 30, 2012, 5:53:24 AM4/30/12
to
Pentcho Valev
Apr 30, 2012, 4:44:08 PM4/30/12
to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218
"From this anthology it emerges that although many prominent physicists are firmly convinced of, and express admiration for the Second Law, there are also serious complaints, especially from mathematicians, about a lack of clarity and rigour in its formulation. At the very least one can say that the Second Law suffers from an image problem: its alleged eminence and venerability is not perceived by everyone who has been exposed to it. What is it that makes this physical law so obstreperous that every attempt at a clear formulation seems to have failed? Is it just the usual sloppiness of physicists? Or is there a deeper problem? And what exactly is the connection with the arrow of time and irreversibility? Could it be that this is also just based on bluff? Perhaps readers will shrug their shoulders over these questions. Thermodynamics is obsolete; for a better understanding of the problem we should turn to more recent, statistical theories. But even then the questions we are about to study have more than a purely historical importance. The problem of reproducing the Second Law, perhaps in an adapted version, remains one of the toughest, and controversial problems in statistical physics. (...) This summary leads to the question whether it is fruitful to see irreversibility or time-asymmetry as the essence of the second law. Is it not more straightforward, in view of the unargued statements of Kelvin, the bold claims of Clausius and the strained attempts of Planck, to give up this idea? I believe that Ehrenfest-Afanassjewa was right in her verdict that the discussion about the arrow of time as expressed in the second law of the thermodynamics is actually a RED HERRING."
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1201/1201.4133.pdf
"The concept of entropy introduced by R. Clausius, which is intimately associated with the second law, resembles the entropy featuring in the theory of probability only by perception. It does not have the extent of generality in description of natural phenomena the thermodynamics claims. C. Truesdell wrote in this connection: "Seven times in the past thirty years have a tried to follow the argument Clausius offers to conclude that the integrating factor T exists in general, is a function of temperature alone, and is the same for all bodies, and seven times has it blanked and graveled me... I cannot even explain what I cannot understand." The character itself of formulating the theory of thermal processes, which originates in the works of the founders of thermodynamics and is still persisting up to the present days, gave grounds to C. Truesdell to call thermodynamics "the dismal swamp of obscurity"."
ftp://ftp.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/pub/SISTA/markovsky/reports/06-46.pdf
"From the pedagogical point of view, thermodynamics is a disaster. As the authors rightly state in the introduction, many aspects are "riddled with inconsistencies". They quote V.I. Arnold, who concedes that "every mathematician knows it is impossible to understand an elementary course in thermodynamics". Nobody has eulogized this confusion more colorfully than the late Clifford Truesdell. On page 6 of his book "The Tragicomical History of Thermodynamics" 1822-1854 (Springer Verlag, 1980), he calls thermodynamics "a dismal swamp of obscurity". Elsewhere, in despair of trying to make sense of the writings of some local heros as De Groot, Mazur, Casimir, and Prigogine, Truesdell suspects that there is "something rotten in the (thermodynamic) state of the Low Countries" (see page 134 of Rational Thermodynamics, McGraw-Hill, 1969)."
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
"Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now."
http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00000313/
"From this anthology it emerges that although many prominent physicists are firmly convinced of, and express admiration for the Second Law, there are also serious complaints, especially from mathematicians, about a lack of clarity and rigour in its formulation. At the very least one can say that the Second Law suffers from an image problem: its alleged eminence and venerability is not perceived by everyone who has been exposed to it. What is it that makes this physical law so obstreperous that every attempt at a clear formulation seems to have failed? Is it just the usual sloppiness of physicists? Or is there a deeper problem? And what exactly is the connection with the arrow of time and irreversibility? Could it be that this is also just based on bluff? Perhaps readers will shrug their shoulders over these questions. Thermodynamics is obsolete; for a better understanding of the problem we should turn to more recent, statistical theories. But even then the questions we are about to study have more than a purely historical importance. The problem of reproducing the Second Law, perhaps in an adapted version, remains one of the toughest, and controversial problems in statistical physics. (...) This summary leads to the question whether it is fruitful to see irreversibility or time-asymmetry as the essence of the second law. Is it not more straightforward, in view of the unargued statements of Kelvin, the bold claims of Clausius and the strained attempts of Planck, to give up this idea? I believe that Ehrenfest-Afanassjewa was right in her verdict that the discussion about the arrow of time as expressed in the second law of the thermodynamics is actually a RED HERRING."
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1201/1201.4133.pdf
"The concept of entropy introduced by R. Clausius, which is intimately associated with the second law, resembles the entropy featuring in the theory of probability only by perception. It does not have the extent of generality in description of natural phenomena the thermodynamics claims. C. Truesdell wrote in this connection: "Seven times in the past thirty years have a tried to follow the argument Clausius offers to conclude that the integrating factor T exists in general, is a function of temperature alone, and is the same for all bodies, and seven times has it blanked and graveled me... I cannot even explain what I cannot understand." The character itself of formulating the theory of thermal processes, which originates in the works of the founders of thermodynamics and is still persisting up to the present days, gave grounds to C. Truesdell to call thermodynamics "the dismal swamp of obscurity"."
ftp://ftp.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/pub/SISTA/markovsky/reports/06-46.pdf
"From the pedagogical point of view, thermodynamics is a disaster. As the authors rightly state in the introduction, many aspects are "riddled with inconsistencies". They quote V.I. Arnold, who concedes that "every mathematician knows it is impossible to understand an elementary course in thermodynamics". Nobody has eulogized this confusion more colorfully than the late Clifford Truesdell. On page 6 of his book "The Tragicomical History of Thermodynamics" 1822-1854 (Springer Verlag, 1980), he calls thermodynamics "a dismal swamp of obscurity". Elsewhere, in despair of trying to make sense of the writings of some local heros as De Groot, Mazur, Casimir, and Prigogine, Truesdell suspects that there is "something rotten in the (thermodynamic) state of the Low Countries" (see page 134 of Rational Thermodynamics, McGraw-Hill, 1969)."
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
ala
Apr 30, 2012, 10:33:23 PM4/30/12
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news:14672629.27.1335706620356.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbez18...
>Julian Barbour also needs more evidence of science's death and sets a
>decisive experiment: "Would FQXi pay >me if I suddenly declare that the
>simultaneity is absolute (not relative as Divine Albert taught) and that
>the >cosmological redshift is not due to an expansion of the universe? If
>they do pay me and if there is no other >reaction, then this science
>couldn't be more dead!"
How much longer does he need
>decisive experiment: "Would FQXi pay >me if I suddenly declare that the
>simultaneity is absolute (not relative as Divine Albert taught) and that
>the >cosmological redshift is not due to an expansion of the universe? If
>they do pay me and if there is no other >reaction, then this science
>couldn't be more dead!"
Arindam Banerjee
May 1, 2012, 6:50:51 PM5/1/12
to
On Apr 30, 1:06 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <rPCdnccQAodXYgDSnZ2dnUVZ_gmdn...@mchsi.com>,
> Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> posted:
First Class (Honours) B. Tech degree in Electronics and Electrical
Communication Engineering from IIT Kharagpur.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <rPCdnccQAodXYgDSnZ2dnUVZ_gmdn...@mchsi.com>,
> Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> posted:
>
>
>
> > On 4/29/12 9:52 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>
> > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
>
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
>
> > Or Arindam Banerjee needs some physics education. :-o
>
> He must have studied the parts that need revision.
I had to do all that, and pass the exams and labs, in order to get my
>
>
> > On 4/29/12 9:52 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>
> > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
>
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
>
> > Or Arindam Banerjee needs some physics education. :-o
>
> He must have studied the parts that need revision.
First Class (Honours) B. Tech degree in Electronics and Electrical
Communication Engineering from IIT Kharagpur.
Arindam Banerjee
May 1, 2012, 6:49:28 PM5/1/12
to
rubbish - thermodynamcis, relativity, quantum and then found that life
is a lot better and clearer when all those cobwebs are swept away.
Thanks for your kind interest, and letting me have this say.
Cheers,
Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all
time, sole god among lotsa devils.
c(V)=c+V
e=0.5mVVN(N-k)
Arindam Banerjee
May 1, 2012, 6:51:33 PM5/1/12
to
On Apr 30, 4:35 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <45e14266-9447-4572-aaeb-1841ad437...@t2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
Great, great. I will look forward to that eagerly.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <45e14266-9447-4572-aaeb-1841ad437...@t2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> o o o
>
> About the terrorist Goon Squad:
>
> "Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
> <KalluMallu...@gmail.com> tries his best to be a bully --
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> o o o
>
> About the terrorist Goon Squad:
>
> "Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
> telling others what and when to post, where to post and
> where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
> others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
> fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
> lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
> <u...@this.com>, and issues *death threats* to people),
> where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
> others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
> fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
> lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
> is priming himself for conditions such as stroke and
> heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
> Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" <josh...@gmail.com> who
> heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
> displays unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and
> the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
>
> The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
> through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
> else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
> favorite now is "fanab...@gmail.com" (note the extra "b"
> the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
>
> The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
> through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
> else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
> and "gmail.com") to make it appear as if the posts are
> from "fana...@aol.com", who has been a regular poster for
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
May 2, 2012, 12:10:17 AM5/2/12
to
probably got fried from smoking "herbal supplements" - supposedly good
for infernal phorce injuns.
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
May 2, 2012, 12:15:30 AM5/2/12
to
On 5/1/2012 3:51 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Apr 30, 4:35 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>
>> Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from, and
>> audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
>> daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
>> (working title) project was offered in less than five
>> minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
>> what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
>> mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
>> the "New Movie..." thread.
Ah, Arindumb got taken in by platitudes about Hollywood and audiences.
> On Apr 30, 4:35 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>
>> Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from, and
>> audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
>> daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
>> (working title) project was offered in less than five
>> minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
>> what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
>> mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
>> the "New Movie..." thread.
Sheesh!
Ah, Lady Kaka can "speak" a few lines. That is absolutely new. Lord
knows she cannot write a few lines. The only "mumbo-jumbo" she tried to
peddle was astrology.
>
> Great, great. I will look forward to that eagerly.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 2, 2012, 2:23:31 AM5/2/12
to
In article <4aea06c8-9c38-418f...@wp13g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
> ..com>,
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > On Apr 28, 3:31=3D3DA0pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps the most ser=
> > > > > > e=3D3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
> > > to do with heat
> > > engines, how to get maximum work out of heat. =A0To that extent, it has
> I
> > > never found anyone
> > > who really thought that entropy made any real sense. =A0I also passed a
> > > course in quantum mechanics. =A0It required suspension of disbelief,
and boundaries governing scientifix experiments.
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <45e14266-9447-4572-aaeb-1841ad437...@t2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > In article
> > > > > =3DA0<8477dd69-0561-4445-9582-d58a70924...@qg3g2000pbc.googlegroups=
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <45e14266-9447-4572-aaeb-1841ad437...@t2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > In article
> ..com>,
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > On Apr 28, 3:31=3D3DA0pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps the most ser=
> ious
> > > > > > challenge ever made to the second law of thermodynamics:
> >
> > > > > > Just great!
> > > > > > Not just entropy and relativity, quantum rubbish has to go as wel=
> > > > > > challenge ever made to the second law of thermodynamics:
> >
> > > > > > Just great!
> l.
> > > > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for better technologies.
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > c(V)=3D3D3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for better technologies.
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > e=3D3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
> >
> > > > > Dhanyavaad for your post. The following is consistent
> > > > > with what you have posted earlier, so your ideas and work
> > > > > predate it:
> >
> > > > > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the
> > > > > thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the
> > > > > external environment, which means it is unlimited...."
> >
> > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > "Entropy" is mentioned. You went to the IIT, don't you
> > > > recall what big confusion the concepts of "entropy" cause
> > > > in students and professors alike!
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > It was a clumsy notion (a mathematical construct) to cover up the fact
> > > that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it was done to save the
> > > first law, that of
> > > conservation of energy. =A0Now to "prove" that they took the example of
> > > > > Dhanyavaad for your post. The following is consistent
> > > > > with what you have posted earlier, so your ideas and work
> > > > > predate it:
> >
> > > > > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the
> > > > > thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the
> > > > > external environment, which means it is unlimited...."
> >
> > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > "Entropy" is mentioned. You went to the IIT, don't you
> > > > recall what big confusion the concepts of "entropy" cause
> > > > in students and professors alike!
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > It was a clumsy notion (a mathematical construct) to cover up the fact
> > > that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it was done to save the
> > > first law, that of
> > > the pendulum, how it was constantly changing from kinetic to
> > > potential; but if it banged
> > > against something, all that energy would not really be destroyed, but
> > > go to increase the entropy of the universe as the heat from that
> > > impact would be dissipated
> > > into the mathematical notion of entropy, that is, the increase of
> > > disorder in the universe. =A0And to study entropy in detail, we have to
> > > potential; but if it banged
> > > against something, all that energy would not really be destroyed, but
> > > go to increase the entropy of the universe as the heat from that
> > > impact would be dissipated
> > > into the mathematical notion of entropy, that is, the increase of
> > > study the Carnot cycle, the dQ/T bit... heat engines are the main key
> > > to
> > > understand how entropy works, that is, how to decrease entropy meant
> > > making more efficient engines. =A0So really the concept of entropy has
> > > to
> > > understand how entropy works, that is, how to decrease entropy meant
> > > to do with heat
> > > engines, how to get maximum work out of heat. =A0To that extent, it has
> > > been useful as a notion and indeed with this concept it was possible
> > > to make more efficient
> > > heat engines. =A0It was thus not as totally useless as relativity, sinc=
> > > to make more efficient
> e
> > > it did have a technical basis.
> >
> > > Now we have cold engines so to say, like solar power to electric to
> > > motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used to in the 19th
> > > century. =A0But, unfortunately, the
> > > it did have a technical basis.
> >
> > > Now we have cold engines so to say, like solar power to electric to
> > > motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used to in the 19th
> > > concept of entropy has been as much woven into science as the law of
> > > conservation of energy. =A0Feynman did his best to explain entropy but =
> I
> > > never found anyone
> > > who really thought that entropy made any real sense. =A0I also passed a
> > > course in quantum mechanics. =A0It required suspension of disbelief,
> > > rather like Hindi movies.
> > > Also, a more useless course could never be found, but at that time how
> > > was I to know that? =A0But in later professional work, when I was the
> > > Also, a more useless course could never be found, but at that time how
> > > only one to make
> > > huge and small antennas work, I found out how totally useless and
> > > worthless that was, and relied totally upon the laws of Maxwell
> > > (electromagnetic wave propagation,
> > > circuit theory related to microwave impedance matching, etc.)
> >
> > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from, and
> > audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
> > daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
> > (working title) project was offered in less than five
> > minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
> > what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
> > mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
> > the "New Movie..." thread.
> >
> > > huge and small antennas work, I found out how totally useless and
> > > worthless that was, and relied totally upon the laws of Maxwell
> > > (electromagnetic wave propagation,
> > > circuit theory related to microwave impedance matching, etc.)
> >
> > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from, and
> > audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
> > daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
> > (working title) project was offered in less than five
> > minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
> > what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
> > mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
> > the "New Movie..." thread.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> > Om Shanti
>
> Great, great. I will look forward to that eagerly.
Nothing fantastic, just somethinf about the conditions
and boundaries governing scientifix experiments.
Arindam Banerjee
May 2, 2012, 2:27:07 AM5/2/12
to
On May 2, 4:23 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <4aea06c8-9c38-418f-a778-978012c6b...@wp13g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Well, just uploaded my book! Let us hope it comes out soon and more
importantly, sells well. The best thing here, I will be relying
directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. And I gotta keep on at
it...
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <4aea06c8-9c38-418f-a778-978012c6b...@wp13g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
importantly, sells well. The best thing here, I will be relying
directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. And I gotta keep on at
it...
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 2, 2012, 2:34:40 AM5/2/12
to
In article <164d00ad-19a2-48d9...@qd3g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <4aea06c8-9c38-418f-a778-978012c6b...@wp13g2000pbb.googlegroup=
> > > > In article <45e14266-9447-4572-aaeb-1841ad437...@t2g2000pbg.googlegro=
> groups=3D
> > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 3:31=3D3D3DA0pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> =
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps the most=
> ser=3D
> wel=3D
> > > l.
> > > > > > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for better technolog=
> ies.
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > > > c(V)=3D3D3D3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > > > > > > e=3D3D3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
> act
> > > > > that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it was done to save t=
> ave to
> > > > > study the Carnot cycle, the dQ/T bit... heat engines are the main k=
> ey
> > > > > to
> > > > > understand how entropy works, that is, how to decrease entropy mean=
> t
> > > > > making more efficient engines. =3DA0So really the concept of entrop=
> it has
> > > > > been useful as a notion and indeed with this concept it was possibl=
> , sinc=3D
> > > > > concept of entropy has been as much woven into science as the law o=
> f
> > > > > conservation of energy. =3DA0Feynman did his best to explain entrop=
> y but =3D
> > > I
> > > > > never found anyone
> > > > > who really thought that entropy made any real sense. =3DA0I also pa=
> ssed a
> > > > > course in quantum mechanics. =3DA0It required suspension of disbeli=
> how
> > > > > was I to know that? =3DA0But in later professional work, when I was=
> >
> > Nothing fantastic, just something about the conditions
> > and boundaries governing scientific experiments.
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <4aea06c8-9c38-418f-a778-978012c6b...@wp13g2000pbb.googlegroup=
> > > > In article <45e14266-9447-4572-aaeb-1841ad437...@t2g2000pbg.googlegro=
> ups.com>,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > =3D3DA0<8477dd69-0561-4445-9582-d58a70924...@qg3g2000pbc.google=
> > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > In article
> groups=3D
> > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 3:31=3D3D3DA0pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> =
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps the most=
> ser=3D
> > > ious
> > > > > > > > challenge ever made to the second law of thermodynamics:
> >
> > > > > > > > Just great!
> > > > > > > > Not just entropy and relativity, quantum rubbish has to go as=
> > > > > > > > challenge ever made to the second law of thermodynamics:
> >
> > > > > > > > Just great!
> wel=3D
> > > l.
> > > > > > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for better technolog=
> ies.
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > > > c(V)=3D3D3D3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > > > > > > e=3D3D3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
> >
> > > > > > > Dhanyavaad for your post. The following is consistent
> > > > > > > with what you have posted earlier, so your ideas and work
> > > > > > > predate it:
> >
> > > > > > > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the
> > > > > > > thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the
> > > > > > > external environment, which means it is unlimited...."
> >
> > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > "Entropy" is mentioned. You went to the IIT, don't you
> > > > > > recall what big confusion the concepts of "entropy" cause
> > > > > > in students and professors alike!
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > It was a clumsy notion (a mathematical construct) to cover up the f=
> > > > > > > Dhanyavaad for your post. The following is consistent
> > > > > > > with what you have posted earlier, so your ideas and work
> > > > > > > predate it:
> >
> > > > > > > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the
> > > > > > > thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the
> > > > > > > external environment, which means it is unlimited...."
> >
> > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > "Entropy" is mentioned. You went to the IIT, don't you
> > > > > > recall what big confusion the concepts of "entropy" cause
> > > > > > in students and professors alike!
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> act
> > > > > that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it was done to save t=
> he
> > > > > first law, that of
> > > > > conservation of energy. =3DA0Now to "prove" that they took the exam=
> > > > > first law, that of
> ple of
> > > > > the pendulum, how it was constantly changing from kinetic to
> > > > > potential; but if it banged
> > > > > against something, all that energy would not really be destroyed, b=
> > > > > the pendulum, how it was constantly changing from kinetic to
> > > > > potential; but if it banged
> ut
> > > > > go to increase the entropy of the universe as the heat from that
> > > > > impact would be dissipated
> > > > > into the mathematical notion of entropy, that is, the increase of
> > > > > disorder in the universe. =3DA0And to study entropy in detail, we h=
> > > > > go to increase the entropy of the universe as the heat from that
> > > > > impact would be dissipated
> > > > > into the mathematical notion of entropy, that is, the increase of
> ave to
> > > > > study the Carnot cycle, the dQ/T bit... heat engines are the main k=
> ey
> > > > > to
> > > > > understand how entropy works, that is, how to decrease entropy mean=
> t
> > > > > making more efficient engines. =3DA0So really the concept of entrop=
> y has
> > > > > to do with heat
> > > > > engines, how to get maximum work out of heat. =3DA0To that extent, =
> > > > > to do with heat
> it has
> > > > > been useful as a notion and indeed with this concept it was possibl=
> e
> > > > > to make more efficient
> > > > > heat engines. =3DA0It was thus not as totally useless as relativity=
> > > > > to make more efficient
> , sinc=3D
> > > e
> > > > > it did have a technical basis.
> >
> > > > > Now we have cold engines so to say, like solar power to electric to
> > > > > motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used to in the 19th
> > > > > century. =3DA0But, unfortunately, the
> > > > > it did have a technical basis.
> >
> > > > > Now we have cold engines so to say, like solar power to electric to
> > > > > motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used to in the 19th
> > > > > concept of entropy has been as much woven into science as the law o=
> f
> > > > > conservation of energy. =3DA0Feynman did his best to explain entrop=
> y but =3D
> > > I
> > > > > never found anyone
> > > > > who really thought that entropy made any real sense. =3DA0I also pa=
> ssed a
> > > > > course in quantum mechanics. =3DA0It required suspension of disbeli=
> ef,
> > > > > rather like Hindi movies.
> > > > > Also, a more useless course could never be found, but at that time =
> > > > > rather like Hindi movies.
> how
> > > > > was I to know that? =3DA0But in later professional work, when I was=
> the
> > > > > only one to make
> > > > > huge and small antennas work, I found out how totally useless and
> > > > > worthless that was, and relied totally upon the laws of Maxwell
> > > > > (electromagnetic wave propagation,
> > > > > circuit theory related to microwave impedance matching, etc.)
> >
> > > > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
> >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from, and
> > > > audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
> > > > daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
> > > > (working title) project was offered in less than five
> > > > minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
> > > > what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
> > > > mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
> > > > the "New Movie..." thread.
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > Great, great. =A0I will look forward to that eagerly.
> > > > > only one to make
> > > > > huge and small antennas work, I found out how totally useless and
> > > > > worthless that was, and relied totally upon the laws of Maxwell
> > > > > (electromagnetic wave propagation,
> > > > > circuit theory related to microwave impedance matching, etc.)
> >
> > > > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
> >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from, and
> > > > audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
> > > > daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
> > > > (working title) project was offered in less than five
> > > > minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
> > > > what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
> > > > mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
> > > > the "New Movie..." thread.
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> >
> > Nothing fantastic, just something about the conditions
> > and boundaries governing scientific experiments.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> Well, just uploaded my book! Let us hope it comes out soon and more
> importantly, sells well. The best thing here, I will be relying
> directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. And I gotta keep on at
> it...
Right on . . . or shall I say write on!
> importantly, sells well. The best thing here, I will be relying
> directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. And I gotta keep on at
> it...
Pentcho Valev
May 2, 2012, 9:10:49 AM5/2/12
to
http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.0161
Self-Charged Graphene Battery Harvests Electricity from Thermal Energy of the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the external environment, which means it is unlimited. However, little study has been reported on converting the ionic thermal energy into electricity. Here we present a graphene device with asymmetric electrodes configuration to capture such ionic thermal energy and convert it into electricity. (...) To exclude the possibility of chemical reaction, we performed control experiments... (...) In conclusion, we could not find any evidences that support the opinion that the induced voltage came from chemical reaction. The mechanism for electricity generation by graphene in solution is a pure physical process..."
http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.6688
"Graphene can collect energy from the ambient heat and convert it to electricity, which makes it an ideal candidate for the fabrication of self-powered devices. However, this technology is suffering the high cost, which limits the practical use of it. In this work, we demonstrated that the cost can be reduced by using low cost reduced graphene oxide (RGO), graphite electrodes and low cost glass substrates. The results showed that this technology can be of practical value for the "battery" industry."
Fifty years ago such a challenge to the second law of thermodynamics would have concerned primarily theoreticians and philosophers of physics (they would have gone mad with excitement) and to a lesser extent technologists. Nowadays theoreticians couldn't care less while philosophers of physics seem to have disappeared (almost no activity in the last two years or so).
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
Self-Charged Graphene Battery Harvests Electricity from Thermal Energy of the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the external environment, which means it is unlimited. However, little study has been reported on converting the ionic thermal energy into electricity. Here we present a graphene device with asymmetric electrodes configuration to capture such ionic thermal energy and convert it into electricity. (...) To exclude the possibility of chemical reaction, we performed control experiments... (...) In conclusion, we could not find any evidences that support the opinion that the induced voltage came from chemical reaction. The mechanism for electricity generation by graphene in solution is a pure physical process..."
http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.6688
"Graphene can collect energy from the ambient heat and convert it to electricity, which makes it an ideal candidate for the fabrication of self-powered devices. However, this technology is suffering the high cost, which limits the practical use of it. In this work, we demonstrated that the cost can be reduced by using low cost reduced graphene oxide (RGO), graphite electrodes and low cost glass substrates. The results showed that this technology can be of practical value for the "battery" industry."
Fifty years ago such a challenge to the second law of thermodynamics would have concerned primarily theoreticians and philosophers of physics (they would have gone mad with excitement) and to a lesser extent technologists. Nowadays theoreticians couldn't care less while philosophers of physics seem to have disappeared (almost no activity in the last two years or so).
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
May 3, 2012, 12:25:11 AM5/3/12
to
On 5/1/2012 11:27 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On May 2, 4:23 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>
>> Nothing fantastic, just somethinf about the conditions
>> and boundaries governing scientifix experiments.
>
Baloney! Copy-pasted from...?
> On May 2, 4:23 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>
>> Nothing fantastic, just somethinf about the conditions
>> and boundaries governing scientifix experiments.
>
> Well, just uploaded my book! Let us hope it comes out soon and more
> importantly, sells well. The best thing here, I will be relying
> directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. And I gotta keep on at
> it...
dork!
Why does the book have to sell well? I had read that for the very
"nobel" [sic] Divine Being, money was filthy lucre. Besides, you wanted
to freely give of your "knowledge" in the form of Arindumb's kookery
books. Why the sudden conversion? Opportunism?
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 3, 2012, 1:15:49 PM5/3/12
to
DMJoshi
May 3, 2012, 1:40:01 PM5/3/12
to
On May 3, 6:15 pm, Dr. Jai Monkey Maharaj) wrote:
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
On Tue, 1 May 2012 23:27:07 -0700 (PDT > Arindam Banerjee posted:
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > Well, just uploaded my book! Let us hope it comes out soon and more
> > > importantly, sells well. The best thing here, I will be relying
> > > directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. And I gotta keep on at
> > > it...
>
> > Right on . . . or shall I say write on!
>
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 3, 2012, 1:51:45 PM5/3/12
to
Zinnic
May 3, 2012, 2:11:42 PM5/3/12
to
On May 3, 12:51 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Are you are 'chumming' the waters around Hawai in preparation for a
big strike? The poor fish seems to be taking your bait, hook line and
sinker!
Zinnic
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > In article
> > > <164d00ad-19a2-48d9-ac38-7963b7459...@qd3g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > In article
big strike? The poor fish seems to be taking your bait, hook line and
sinker!
Zinnic
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 3, 2012, 2:29:24 PM5/3/12
to
In article <1fc96cad-0607-4ad4...@2g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Zinnic <zinni...@gmail.com> posted:
> > > > > groups=3D3D
> ahoo.com>
> > > =A0=3D
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps =
> the
> > > =A0most=3D
> > > > > =A0ser=3D3D
> > > > > > > ious
> > > > > > > > > > > > challenge ever made to the second law of thermodynami=
> cs:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Just great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > Not just entropy and relativity, quantum rubbish has =
> to go
> > > =A0as=3D
> > > > > =A0wel=3D3D
> > > > > ies.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > > > > > > > c(V)=3D3D3D3D3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > > > > > > > > > > e=3D3D3D3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
> up the
> > > =A0f=3D
> > > > > act
> > > > > > > > > that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it was done t=
> o save
> > > =A0t=3D
> k the
> > > =A0exam=3D
> > > > > ple of
> > > > > > > > > the pendulum, how it was constantly changing from kinetic t=
> royed,
> > > =A0b=3D
> > > > > ut
> > > > > > > > > go to increase the entropy of the universe as the heat from=
> ase of
> > > > > > > > > disorder in the universe. =3D3DA0And to study entropy in de=
> tail, we
> > > =A0h=3D
> > > > > ave to
> > > > > > > > > study the Carnot cycle, the dQ/T bit... heat engines are th=
> e main
> > > =A0k=3D
> > > > > ey
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > understand how entropy works, that is, how to decrease entr=
> opy
> > > =A0mean=3D
> > > > > t
> > > > > > > > > making more efficient engines. =3D3DA0So really the concept=
> of
> > > =A0entrop=3D
> t extent,
> > > =A0=3D
> > > =A0relativity=3D
> > > > > , sinc=3D3D
> ctric
> > > =A0to
> > > > > > > > > motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used to in the=
> 19th
> > > > > > > > > century. =3D3DA0But, unfortunately, the
> > > > > > > > > concept of entropy has been as much woven into science as t=
> he law
> > > =A0o=3D
> > > > > f
> > > > > > > > > conservation of energy. =3D3DA0Feynman did his best to expl=
> ain
> > > =A0entrop=3D
> > > > > y but =3D3D
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > never found anyone
> > > > > > > > > who really thought that entropy made any real sense. =3D3DA=
> 0I also
> > > =A0pa=3D
> > > > > ssed a
> > > > > > > > > course in quantum mechanics. =3D3DA0It required suspension =
> of
> > > =A0disbeli=3D
> at time
> > > =A0=3D
> > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > was I to know that? =3D3DA0But in later professional work, =
> when I
> > > =A0was=3D
> > > > > =A0the
> > > > > > > > > only one to make
> > > > > > > > > huge and small antennas work, I found out how totally usele=
> ss and
> > > > > > > > > worthless that was, and relied totally upon the laws of Max=
> well
> > > > > > > > > (electromagnetic wave propagation,
> > > > > > > > > circuit theory related to microwave impedance matching, etc=
> ..)
> ore
> > > > > importantly, sells well. =A0The best thing here, I will be relying
> > > > > directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. =A0And I gotta keep =
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
Zinnic <zinni...@gmail.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > > > In article
> > > > =A0<164d00ad-19a2-48d9-ac38-7963b7459...@qd3g2000pbb.googlegroups.com,
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > > > In article
> > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > In article
> > > =A0<4aea06c8-9c38-418f-a778-978012c6b...@wp13g2000pbb.googlegroup=3D
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > s.com>,
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > In article
> > > =A0<45e14266-9447-4572-aaeb-1841ad437...@t2g2000pbg.googlegro=3D
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > ups.com>,
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > In article
> >
> > > =A0=3D3D3DA0<8477dd69-0561-4445-9582-d58a70924...@qg3g2000pbc.google=3D
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > In article
> >
> > > > > groups=3D3D
> > > > > > > ..com>,
> > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 3:31=3D3D3D3DA0pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@y=
> > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> ahoo.com>
> > > =A0=3D
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps =
> the
> > > =A0most=3D
> > > > > =A0ser=3D3D
> > > > > > > ious
> > > > > > > > > > > > challenge ever made to the second law of thermodynami=
> cs:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Just great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > Not just entropy and relativity, quantum rubbish has =
> to go
> > > =A0as=3D
> > > > > =A0wel=3D3D
> > > > > > > l.
> > > > > > > > > > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for better
> > > =A0technolog=3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for better
> > > > > ies.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > > > > > > > c(V)=3D3D3D3D3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > > > > > > > > > > e=3D3D3D3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Dhanyavaad for your post. The following is consistent
> > > > > > > > > > > with what you have posted earlier, so your ideas and wo=
> > > > > > > > > > > Dhanyavaad for your post. The following is consistent
> rk
> > > > > > > > > > > predate it:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the
> > > > > > > > > > > thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the
> > > > > > > > > > > external environment, which means it is unlimited...."
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > > "Entropy" is mentioned. You went to the IIT, don't you
> > > > > > > > > > recall what big confusion the concepts of "entropy" cause
> > > > > > > > > > in students and professors alike!
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > It was a clumsy notion (a mathematical construct) to cover =
> > > > > > > > > > > predate it:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the
> > > > > > > > > > > thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the
> > > > > > > > > > > external environment, which means it is unlimited...."
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > > "Entropy" is mentioned. You went to the IIT, don't you
> > > > > > > > > > recall what big confusion the concepts of "entropy" cause
> > > > > > > > > > in students and professors alike!
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> up the
> > > =A0f=3D
> > > > > act
> > > > > > > > > that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it was done t=
> o save
> > > =A0t=3D
> > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > first law, that of
> > > > > > > > > conservation of energy. =3D3DA0Now to "prove" that they too=
> > > > > > > > > first law, that of
> k the
> > > =A0exam=3D
> > > > > ple of
> > > > > > > > > the pendulum, how it was constantly changing from kinetic t=
> o
> > > > > > > > > potential; but if it banged
> > > > > > > > > against something, all that energy would not really be dest=
> > > > > > > > > potential; but if it banged
> royed,
> > > =A0b=3D
> > > > > ut
> > > > > > > > > go to increase the entropy of the universe as the heat from=
> that
> > > > > > > > > impact would be dissipated
> > > > > > > > > into the mathematical notion of entropy, that is, the incre=
> > > > > > > > > impact would be dissipated
> ase of
> > > > > > > > > disorder in the universe. =3D3DA0And to study entropy in de=
> tail, we
> > > =A0h=3D
> > > > > ave to
> > > > > > > > > study the Carnot cycle, the dQ/T bit... heat engines are th=
> e main
> > > =A0k=3D
> > > > > ey
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > understand how entropy works, that is, how to decrease entr=
> opy
> > > =A0mean=3D
> > > > > t
> > > > > > > > > making more efficient engines. =3D3DA0So really the concept=
> of
> > > =A0entrop=3D
> > > > > y has
> > > > > > > > > to do with heat
> > > > > > > > > engines, how to get maximum work out of heat. =3D3DA0To tha=
> > > > > > > > > to do with heat
> t extent,
> > > =A0=3D
> > > > > it has
> > > > > > > > > been useful as a notion and indeed with this concept it was
> > > =A0possibl=3D
> > > > > > > > > been useful as a notion and indeed with this concept it was
> > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > to make more efficient
> > > > > > > > > heat engines. =3D3DA0It was thus not as totally useless as
> > > > > > > > > to make more efficient
> > > =A0relativity=3D
> > > > > , sinc=3D3D
> > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > it did have a technical basis.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Now we have cold engines so to say, like solar power to ele=
> > > > > > > > > it did have a technical basis.
> >
> ctric
> > > =A0to
> > > > > > > > > motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used to in the=
> 19th
> > > > > > > > > century. =3D3DA0But, unfortunately, the
> > > > > > > > > concept of entropy has been as much woven into science as t=
> he law
> > > =A0o=3D
> > > > > f
> > > > > > > > > conservation of energy. =3D3DA0Feynman did his best to expl=
> ain
> > > =A0entrop=3D
> > > > > y but =3D3D
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > never found anyone
> > > > > > > > > who really thought that entropy made any real sense. =3D3DA=
> 0I also
> > > =A0pa=3D
> > > > > ssed a
> > > > > > > > > course in quantum mechanics. =3D3DA0It required suspension =
> of
> > > =A0disbeli=3D
> > > > > ef,
> > > > > > > > > rather like Hindi movies.
> > > > > > > > > Also, a more useless course could never be found, but at th=
> > > > > > > > > rather like Hindi movies.
> at time
> > > =A0=3D
> > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > was I to know that? =3D3DA0But in later professional work, =
> when I
> > > =A0was=3D
> > > > > =A0the
> > > > > > > > > only one to make
> > > > > > > > > huge and small antennas work, I found out how totally usele=
> ss and
> > > > > > > > > worthless that was, and relied totally upon the laws of Max=
> well
> > > > > > > > > (electromagnetic wave propagation,
> > > > > > > > > circuit theory related to microwave impedance matching, etc=
> ..)
> >
> > > > > > > > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from, and
> > > > > > > > audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
> > > > > > > > daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
> > > > > > > > (working title) project was offered in less than five
> > > > > > > > minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
> > > > > > > > what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
> > > > > > > > mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
> > > > > > > > the "New Movie..." thread.
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > Great, great. =3DA0I will look forward to that eagerly.
> > > > > > > > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from, and
> > > > > > > > audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
> > > > > > > > daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
> > > > > > > > (working title) project was offered in less than five
> > > > > > > > minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
> > > > > > > > what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
> > > > > > > > mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
> > > > > > > > the "New Movie..." thread.
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> >
> > > > > > Nothing fantastic, just something about the conditions
> > > > > > and boundaries governing scientific experiments.
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > Well, just uploaded my book! =A0Let us hope it comes out soon and m=
> > > > > > Nothing fantastic, just something about the conditions
> > > > > > and boundaries governing scientific experiments.
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> ore
> > > > > importantly, sells well. =A0The best thing here, I will be relying
> > > > > directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. =A0And I gotta keep =
> on at
> > > > > it...
> >
> > > > Right on . . . or shall I say write on!
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > A series of instructional videos could be based on the book.
> >
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
> >
> > You can create them yourself quite inexpensively.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> Are you are 'chumming' the waters around Hawai in preparation for a
> big strike? The poor fish seems to be taking your bait, hook line and
> sinker!
> Zinnic
I'm neither a fisherman nor a hunter, literally or figuratively.
> > > > > it...
> >
> > > > Right on . . . or shall I say write on!
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > A series of instructional videos could be based on the book.
> >
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
> >
> > You can create them yourself quite inexpensively.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> Are you are 'chumming' the waters around Hawai in preparation for a
> big strike? The poor fish seems to be taking your bait, hook line and
> sinker!
> Zinnic
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
o o o
About the terrorist Goon Squad:
"Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
<KalluM...@gmail.com> tries his best to be a bully --
About the terrorist Goon Squad:
"Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
telling others what and when to post, where to post and
where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
<us...@this.com>, and issues *death threats* to people),
where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
is priming himself for conditions such as stroke and
heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" <jos...@gmail.com> who
heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
displays unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and
the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
favorite now is "fana...@gmail.com" (note the extra "b"
the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
and "gmail.com") to make it appear as if the posts are
from "fan...@aol.com", who has been a regular poster for
Darwin123
May 3, 2012, 6:10:49 PM5/3/12
to
On Friday, April 27, 2012 12:57:02 AM UTC-4, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> http://canadianjuniorreport.com/graphene-battery-turns-ambient-heat-into-electric-current
> "Physicists have built a graphene battery that harvests energy from the thermal movement of ions in solution. (...) When an ion smashes into the graphene strip, the collision generates enough energy to kick a delocalised electron out of the graphene. The electron then has two options: it can either leave the graphene strip and combine with the copper ion or it can travel through the graphene strip and into the circuit. It turns out that the mobility of electrons is much higher in graphene than it is through the solution, so the electron naturally chooses the route through the circuit. It is this that lights up the LED. "The released electrons prefer to travel across the graphene surface...instead of going into the electrolyte solution. That is how the voltage was produced by our device," say Zihan and co. So the energy generated by this device comes from ambient heat. These guys say there were able to increase the current by heating the solution and also by accelerating the copper ions with ultrasound. They even claim to have kept their graphene battery running for 20 days on nothing but ambient heat. But there's an important question mark. One alternative hypothesis is that some kind of chemical reaction is generating the current, just as in an ordinary battery. However, Zihan and co say they ruled this out with a couple of control experiments."
>
> So if the current is not generated by a chemical reaction, this is a violation of the second law of thermodynamics par excellence.
The kicking of delocalized electrons out of the graphene is work. It is not heat transfer. A chemical reaction is just one type of work. It is not conduction of heat. Therefore, the second law of thermodynamics is not violated.
>Is it so unnatural that some particular ions easily kick a delocalised electron out of the graphene?
It has nothing to do with the graphene. The ions are a few thousand times more massive than the electron. The electron is held to most materials with a binding energy of a few electron volts. The ions hit the sample with a few thousand electron volts of energy.
> Perhaps not - it seems that, for graphene, the process is easy in general:
The ionization has nothing to do with the graphene. The graphene is special because of its electrical conduction.
>
> http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2012/apr/25/graphene-emits-infrared-light
> "For example, it [the graphene] has an ideal "internal quantum efficiency" because almost every photon absorbed by graphene generates an electron-hole pair that could, in principle, be converted into electric current."
...instead of being captured by an impurity state. The two-dimensional structure of graphene is special because it creates quantized electron states that resist the electron capture caused by impurities. Again, this has nothing to do with the second law of thermodynamics.
Note: you have never described even one experiment that in any way challenges the Second Law of Thermodynamics. You don't know enough chemistry to even discuss these experiments intelligently.
> http://canadianjuniorreport.com/graphene-battery-turns-ambient-heat-into-electric-current
> "Physicists have built a graphene battery that harvests energy from the thermal movement of ions in solution. (...) When an ion smashes into the graphene strip, the collision generates enough energy to kick a delocalised electron out of the graphene. The electron then has two options: it can either leave the graphene strip and combine with the copper ion or it can travel through the graphene strip and into the circuit. It turns out that the mobility of electrons is much higher in graphene than it is through the solution, so the electron naturally chooses the route through the circuit. It is this that lights up the LED. "The released electrons prefer to travel across the graphene surface...instead of going into the electrolyte solution. That is how the voltage was produced by our device," say Zihan and co. So the energy generated by this device comes from ambient heat. These guys say there were able to increase the current by heating the solution and also by accelerating the copper ions with ultrasound. They even claim to have kept their graphene battery running for 20 days on nothing but ambient heat. But there's an important question mark. One alternative hypothesis is that some kind of chemical reaction is generating the current, just as in an ordinary battery. However, Zihan and co say they ruled this out with a couple of control experiments."
>
> So if the current is not generated by a chemical reaction, this is a violation of the second law of thermodynamics par excellence.
The kicking of delocalized electrons out of the graphene is work. It is not heat transfer. A chemical reaction is just one type of work. It is not conduction of heat. Therefore, the second law of thermodynamics is not violated.
>Is it so unnatural that some particular ions easily kick a delocalised electron out of the graphene?
It has nothing to do with the graphene. The ions are a few thousand times more massive than the electron. The electron is held to most materials with a binding energy of a few electron volts. The ions hit the sample with a few thousand electron volts of energy.
> Perhaps not - it seems that, for graphene, the process is easy in general:
The ionization has nothing to do with the graphene. The graphene is special because of its electrical conduction.
>
> http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2012/apr/25/graphene-emits-infrared-light
> "For example, it [the graphene] has an ideal "internal quantum efficiency" because almost every photon absorbed by graphene generates an electron-hole pair that could, in principle, be converted into electric current."
...instead of being captured by an impurity state. The two-dimensional structure of graphene is special because it creates quantized electron states that resist the electron capture caused by impurities. Again, this has nothing to do with the second law of thermodynamics.
Note: you have never described even one experiment that in any way challenges the Second Law of Thermodynamics. You don't know enough chemistry to even discuss these experiments intelligently.
Arindam Banerjee
May 3, 2012, 10:51:42 PM5/3/12
to
On May 4, 3:51 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Wow, my new ADSL2+ works like blazes! Now I am on to a new plan, with
200GB monthly download, Telstra TBox, and also Samsung Galaxy2 in the
house...
Yes, I think I need a tripod to get going, and learn some basics about
how to use my new JVC camcorder. Took lots of videos, gotta read the
manuals and become
an expert. Then do my own producing, directing and also solo acting.
What with strength of Aussie dollar, cheap electronics goods as a
result, cheap services too, I am getting some breaks at last.
I was very impressed with the Amazon rep who rang me last night about
the book - really, after being subject to the whines and abuse of the
goon squad one does tend
to acquire a negative impression of human morals, intellect,
direction, motivation... One has got to remind oneself, that these
worthless scum are just that, fortunately there
are still good and clever people around, who do great things.
Unfortunately democracy corrupted, leads to having quotays in charge
of matters, and then there is
misfortune to be shared by everyone except the ruling quotays of
course. Also there is joy in having earned enough, so that there is
no need for further daily
humiliation in the workplace where the quotays are the bosses.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > In article
> > > <164d00ad-19a2-48d9-ac38-7963b7459...@qd3g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > In article
200GB monthly download, Telstra TBox, and also Samsung Galaxy2 in the
house...
Yes, I think I need a tripod to get going, and learn some basics about
how to use my new JVC camcorder. Took lots of videos, gotta read the
manuals and become
an expert. Then do my own producing, directing and also solo acting.
What with strength of Aussie dollar, cheap electronics goods as a
result, cheap services too, I am getting some breaks at last.
I was very impressed with the Amazon rep who rang me last night about
the book - really, after being subject to the whines and abuse of the
goon squad one does tend
to acquire a negative impression of human morals, intellect,
direction, motivation... One has got to remind oneself, that these
worthless scum are just that, fortunately there
are still good and clever people around, who do great things.
Unfortunately democracy corrupted, leads to having quotays in charge
of matters, and then there is
misfortune to be shared by everyone except the ruling quotays of
course. Also there is joy in having earned enough, so that there is
no need for further daily
humiliation in the workplace where the quotays are the bosses.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 3, 2012, 11:16:01 PM5/3/12
to
In article <f6fad093-ec27-4b7c...@h4g2000pbe.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > > > > groups=3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps =
> the
> > > =A0most=3D
> > > > > =A0ser=3D3D
> > > > > > > ious
> > > > > > > > > > > > challenge ever made to the second law of thermodynami=
> cs:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Just great!
> up the
> > > =A0f=3D
> > > > > act
> > > > > > > > > that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it was done t=
> o save
> > > =A0t=3D
> > > > > > > > > the pendulum, how it was constantly changing from kinetic t=
> royed,
> > > =A0b=3D
> > > > > ut
> > > > > > > > > go to increase the entropy of the universe as the heat from=
> ase of
> > > > > > > > > study the Carnot cycle, the dQ/T bit... heat engines are th=
> e main
> > > =A0k=3D
> > > > > ey
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > understand how entropy works, that is, how to decrease entr=
> opy
> > > =A0mean=3D
> > > > > t
> > > =A0relativity=3D
> > > > > , sinc=3D3D
> > > > > > > > > never found anyone
> > > > > > > > > who really thought that entropy made any real sense. =3D3DA=
> 0I also
> > > =A0pa=3D
> > > > > ssed a
> at time
> > > =A0=3D
> > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > huge and small antennas work, I found out how totally usele=
> ss and
> > > > > > > > > worthless that was, and relied totally upon the laws of Max=
> well
> > > > > > > > > (electromagnetic wave propagation,
> > > > > > > > > circuit theory related to microwave impedance matching, etc=
> ..)
Does your phone shoot acceptable video?
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > In article
> > > > =A0<164d00ad-19a2-48d9-ac38-7963b7459...@qd3g2000pbb.googlegroups.com=
> >
> > > > In article
> >,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > In article
> > > =A0<4aea06c8-9c38-418f-a778-978012c6b...@wp13g2000pbb.googlegroup=3D
> > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > s.com>,
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > In article
> > > =A0<45e14266-9447-4572-aaeb-1841ad437...@t2g2000pbg.googlegro=3D
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > ups.com>,
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > In article
> >
> > > =A0=3D3D3DA0<8477dd69-0561-4445-9582-d58a70924...@qg3g2000pbc.google=3D
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > In article
> >
> > > > > groups=3D3D
> > > > > > > ..com>,
> > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 3:31=3D3D3D3DA0pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@y=
> ahoo.com>
> > > =A0=3D
> > > > > wrote:
> ahoo.com>
> > > =A0=3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps =
> the
> > > =A0most=3D
> > > > > =A0ser=3D3D
> > > > > > > ious
> > > > > > > > > > > > challenge ever made to the second law of thermodynami=
> cs:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Just great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > Not just entropy and relativity, quantum rubbish has =
> to go
> > > =A0as=3D
> > > > > =A0wel=3D3D
> to go
> > > =A0as=3D
> > > > > =A0wel=3D3D
> > > > > > > l.
> > > > > > > > > > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for better
> > > > > > > > > > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for better
> > > =A0technolog=3D
> > > > > ies.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > > > > > > > c(V)=3D3D3D3D3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > > > > > > > > > > e=3D3D3D3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
> >
> > > > > ies.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > > > > > > > c(V)=3D3D3D3D3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > > > > > > > > > > e=3D3D3D3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Dhanyavaad for your post. The following is consistent
> > > > > > > > > > > with what you have posted earlier, so your ideas and wo=
> rk
> > > > > > > > > > > predate it:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the
> > > > > > > > > > > thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the
> > > > > > > > > > > external environment, which means it is unlimited...."
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > > "Entropy" is mentioned. You went to the IIT, don't you
> > > > > > > > > > recall what big confusion the concepts of "entropy" cause
> > > > > > > > > > in students and professors alike!
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > It was a clumsy notion (a mathematical construct) to cover =
> > > > > > > > > > > predate it:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the
> > > > > > > > > > > thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the
> > > > > > > > > > > external environment, which means it is unlimited...."
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > > "Entropy" is mentioned. You went to the IIT, don't you
> > > > > > > > > > recall what big confusion the concepts of "entropy" cause
> > > > > > > > > > in students and professors alike!
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> up the
> > > =A0f=3D
> > > > > act
> > > > > > > > > that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it was done t=
> o save
> > > =A0t=3D
> > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > first law, that of
> > > > > > > > > first law, that of
> > > > > > > > > conservation of energy. =3D3DA0Now to "prove" that they too=
> k the
> > > =A0exam=3D
> > > > > ple of
> k the
> > > =A0exam=3D
> > > > > > > > > the pendulum, how it was constantly changing from kinetic t=
> o
> > > > > > > > > potential; but if it banged
> > > > > > > > > against something, all that energy would not really be dest=
> > > > > > > > > potential; but if it banged
> royed,
> > > =A0b=3D
> > > > > ut
> > > > > > > > > go to increase the entropy of the universe as the heat from=
> that
> > > > > > > > > impact would be dissipated
> > > > > > > > > into the mathematical notion of entropy, that is, the incre=
> > > > > > > > > impact would be dissipated
> ase of
> > > > > > > > > disorder in the universe. =3D3DA0And to study entropy in de=
> tail, we
> > > =A0h=3D
> > > > > ave to
> tail, we
> > > =A0h=3D
> > > > > > > > > study the Carnot cycle, the dQ/T bit... heat engines are th=
> e main
> > > =A0k=3D
> > > > > ey
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > understand how entropy works, that is, how to decrease entr=
> opy
> > > =A0mean=3D
> > > > > t
> > > > > > > > > making more efficient engines. =3D3DA0So really the concept=
> of
> > > =A0entrop=3D
> of
> > > =A0entrop=3D
> > > > > y has
> > > > > > > > > to do with heat
> > > > > > > > > to do with heat
> > > > > > > > > engines, how to get maximum work out of heat. =3D3DA0To tha=
> t extent,
> > > =A0=3D
> t extent,
> > > =A0=3D
> > > > > it has
> > > > > > > > > been useful as a notion and indeed with this concept it was
> > > =A0possibl=3D
> > > > > > > > > been useful as a notion and indeed with this concept it was
> > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > to make more efficient
> > > > > > > > > heat engines. =3D3DA0It was thus not as totally useless as
> > > > > > > > > to make more efficient
> > > =A0relativity=3D
> > > > > , sinc=3D3D
> > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > it did have a technical basis.
> >
> > > > > > > > > it did have a technical basis.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Now we have cold engines so to say, like solar power to ele=
> ctric
> > > =A0to
> > > > > > > > > motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used to in the=
> 19th
> > > > > > > > > century. =3D3DA0But, unfortunately, the
> > > > > > > > > concept of entropy has been as much woven into science as t=
> he law
> > > =A0o=3D
> > > > > f
> > > > > > > > > conservation of energy. =3D3DA0Feynman did his best to expl=
> ain
> > > =A0entrop=3D
> > > > > y but =3D3D
> > > > > > > I
> ctric
> > > =A0to
> > > > > > > > > motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used to in the=
> 19th
> > > > > > > > > century. =3D3DA0But, unfortunately, the
> > > > > > > > > concept of entropy has been as much woven into science as t=
> he law
> > > =A0o=3D
> > > > > f
> > > > > > > > > conservation of energy. =3D3DA0Feynman did his best to expl=
> ain
> > > =A0entrop=3D
> > > > > y but =3D3D
> > > > > > > > > never found anyone
> > > > > > > > > who really thought that entropy made any real sense. =3D3DA=
> 0I also
> > > =A0pa=3D
> > > > > ssed a
> > > > > > > > > course in quantum mechanics. =3D3DA0It required suspension =
> of
> > > =A0disbeli=3D
> of
> > > =A0disbeli=3D
> > > > > ef,
> > > > > > > > > rather like Hindi movies.
> > > > > > > > > Also, a more useless course could never be found, but at th=
> > > > > > > > > rather like Hindi movies.
> at time
> > > =A0=3D
> > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > was I to know that? =3D3DA0But in later professional work, =
> when I
> > > =A0was=3D
> > > > > =A0the
> > > > > > > > > only one to make
> when I
> > > =A0was=3D
> > > > > =A0the
> > > > > > > > > huge and small antennas work, I found out how totally usele=
> ss and
> > > > > > > > > worthless that was, and relied totally upon the laws of Max=
> well
> > > > > > > > > (electromagnetic wave propagation,
> > > > > > > > > circuit theory related to microwave impedance matching, etc=
> ..)
> >
> > > > > > > > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from, and
> > > > > > > > audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
> > > > > > > > daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
> > > > > > > > (working title) project was offered in less than five
> > > > > > > > minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
> > > > > > > > what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
> > > > > > > > mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
> > > > > > > > the "New Movie..." thread.
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > Great, great. =3DA0I will look forward to that eagerly.
> > > > > > > > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from, and
> > > > > > > > audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
> > > > > > > > daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
> > > > > > > > (working title) project was offered in less than five
> > > > > > > > minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
> > > > > > > > what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
> > > > > > > > mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
> > > > > > > > the "New Movie..." thread.
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> >
> > > > > > Nothing fantastic, just something about the conditions
> > > > > > and boundaries governing scientific experiments.
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > Nothing fantastic, just something about the conditions
> > > > > > and boundaries governing scientific experiments.
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > Well, just uploaded my book! =A0Let us hope it comes out soon and m=
> ore
> > > > > importantly, sells well. =A0The best thing here, I will be relying
> > > > > directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. =A0And I gotta keep =
> ore
> > > > > importantly, sells well. =A0The best thing here, I will be relying
> > > > > directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. =A0And I gotta keep =
> on at
> > > > > it...
> >
> > > > Right on . . . or shall I say write on!
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > A series of instructional videos could be based on the book.
> > >
> > > > > it...
> >
> > > > Right on . . . or shall I say write on!
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > A series of instructional videos could be based on the book.
> > >
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
May 3, 2012, 11:36:43 PM5/3/12
to
On 5/3/2012 11:11 AM, Zinnic wrote:
>
> Are you are 'chumming' the waters around Hawai in preparation for a
> big strike? The poor fish seems to be taking your bait, hook line and
> sinker!
> Zinnic
Lady Kaka, who fancies herself as a "shark", is a regular chumbucket (a
>
> Are you are 'chumming' the waters around Hawai in preparation for a
> big strike? The poor fish seems to be taking your bait, hook line and
> sinker!
> Zinnic
similar sounding word is a better descriptor of this imbecile).
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
May 3, 2012, 11:44:57 PM5/3/12
to
On 5/3/2012 7:51 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>
> Wow, my new ADSL2+ works like blazes! Now I am on to a new plan, with
> 200GB monthly download, Telstra TBox, and also Samsung Galaxy2 in the
> house...
Yawn! Did you finally get indoor plumbing too?
>
> Wow, my new ADSL2+ works like blazes! Now I am on to a new plan, with
> 200GB monthly download, Telstra TBox, and also Samsung Galaxy2 in the
> house...
> Yes, I think I need a tripod to get going, and learn some basics about
> how to use my new JVC camcorder. Took lots of videos, gotta read the
> manuals and become
> an expert. Then do my own producing, directing and also solo acting.
camcorder. Maybe Lady Kaka will copy-paste the manual here for you. I
look forward to Youtube offerings from you. Hopefully, these videos will
go viral (possible if you have working infernal phorce injuns). Please,
for heaven's sake, don't upload videos of you reading your "poetry". The
audio and visual might make me sick.
> What with strength of Aussie dollar, cheap electronics goods as a
> result, cheap services too, I am getting some breaks at last.
> I was very impressed with the Amazon rep who rang me last night about
> the book - really, after being subject to the whines and abuse of the
> goon squad one does tend
> to acquire a negative impression of human morals, intellect,
> direction, motivation... One has got to remind oneself, that these
> worthless scum are just that, fortunately there
> are still good and clever people around, who do great things.
> Unfortunately democracy corrupted, leads to having quotays in charge
> of matters, and then there is
> misfortune to be shared by everyone except the ruling quotays of
> course. Also there is joy in having earned enough, so that there is
> no need for further daily
> humiliation in the workplace where the quotays are the bosses.
>
Amazon rep said or did that "impressed" you. Did he place an order for
the first infernal phorce injun, or did the royalty percentage he quoted
was 2x what you expected?
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 3, 2012, 11:51:39 PM5/3/12
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and they are of excellent quality for the web.
Arindam Banerjee
May 4, 2012, 8:35:32 PM5/4/12
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On May 4, 3:15 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
This book is about metaphysics, not physics. We have to get our
metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil
and incorrigible abusive, parasitical quotawallahs will once again
misuse the new physics with their constant abuse, the way they have
always, done.
Sound metaphysics leading to sound morality and proper spirituality,
precedes physics and resulting technology. For a moral population,
only, deserves the positive benefits of the surpassing mind.
Populations with low morality, may live in squalor, under the rule of
quotawallahs, forever demanding quotas.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article
> > <164d00ad-19a2-48d9-ac38-7963b7459...@qd3g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article
metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil
and incorrigible abusive, parasitical quotawallahs will once again
misuse the new physics with their constant abuse, the way they have
always, done.
Sound metaphysics leading to sound morality and proper spirituality,
precedes physics and resulting technology. For a moral population,
only, deserves the positive benefits of the surpassing mind.
Populations with low morality, may live in squalor, under the rule of
quotawallahs, forever demanding quotas.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 4, 2012, 8:59:15 PM5/4/12
to
In article <e225500d-610c-4cf6...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > > > > In article <4aea06c8-9c38-418f-a778-978012c6b...@wp13g2000pbb.googl=
> egroup=3D
> glegro=3D
> c.google=3D
> > > > groups=3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 3:31=3D3D3D3DA0pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yah=
> oo.com> =3D
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps th=
> e most=3D
> > > > =A0ser=3D3D
> > > > > > ious
> > > > > > > > > > > challenge ever made to the second law of thermodynamics=
> :
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Just great!
> > > > > > > > > > > Not just entropy and relativity, quantum rubbish has to=
> go as=3D
> > > > =A0wel=3D3D
> > > > > > l.
> > > > > > > > > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for better tec=
> the f=3D
> > > > act
> > > > > > > > that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it was done to =
> save t=3D
> the exam=3D
> yed, b=3D
> > > > ut
> > > > > > > > go to increase the entropy of the universe as the heat from t=
> e of
> > > > > > > > disorder in the universe. =3D3DA0And to study entropy in deta=
> il, we h=3D
> > > > ave to
> > > > > > > > study the Carnot cycle, the dQ/T bit... heat engines are the =
> main k=3D
> > > > ey
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > understand how entropy works, that is, how to decrease entrop=
> y mean=3D
> > > > t
> > > > > > > > making more efficient engines. =3D3DA0So really the concept o=
> f entrop=3D
> extent, =3D
> > > > it has
> > > > > > > > been useful as a notion and indeed with this concept it was p=
> ossibl=3D
> lativity=3D
> > > > , sinc=3D3D
> ric to
> > > > > > > > motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used to in the 1=
> 9th
> > > > > > > > century. =3D3DA0But, unfortunately, the
> > > > > > > > concept of entropy has been as much woven into science as the=
> law o=3D
> > > > f
> > > > > > > > conservation of energy. =3D3DA0Feynman did his best to explai=
> n entrop=3D
> > > > y but =3D3D
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > never found anyone
> > > > > > > > who really thought that entropy made any real sense. =3D3DA0I=
> also pa=3D
> > > > ssed a
> > > > > > > > course in quantum mechanics. =3D3DA0It required suspension of=
> disbeli=3D
> time =3D
> > > > how
> > > > > > > > was I to know that? =3D3DA0But in later professional work, wh=
> en I was=3D
> > > > =A0the
> > > > > > > > only one to make
> > > > > > > > huge and small antennas work, I found out how totally useless=
> and
> > > > > > > > worthless that was, and relied totally upon the laws of Maxwe=
> e
> > > > importantly, sells well. =A0The best thing here, I will be relying
> > > > directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. =A0And I gotta keep on=
Introduction of the book. Will it lay down some sort of a
"metaphysical method" for analyzing issues?
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > In article
> > > =A0<164d00ad-19a2-48d9-ac38-7963b7459...@qd3g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > In article
> > > > > In article <4aea06c8-9c38-418f-a778-978012c6b...@wp13g2000pbb.googl=
> egroup=3D
> > > > s.com>,
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > In article <45e14266-9447-4572-aaeb-1841ad437...@t2g2000pbg.goo=
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> glegro=3D
> > > > ups.com>,
> > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0<8477dd69-0561-4445-9582-d58a70924...@qg3g2000pb=
> > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > In article
> c.google=3D
> > > > groups=3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 3:31=3D3D3D3DA0pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yah=
> oo.com> =3D
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perhaps th=
> e most=3D
> > > > =A0ser=3D3D
> > > > > > ious
> > > > > > > > > > > challenge ever made to the second law of thermodynamics=
> :
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Just great!
> > > > > > > > > > > Not just entropy and relativity, quantum rubbish has to=
> go as=3D
> > > > =A0wel=3D3D
> > > > > > l.
> > > > > > > > > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for better tec=
> hnolog=3D
> > > > ies.
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > > > > > > c(V)=3D3D3D3D3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > > > > > > > > > e=3D3D3D3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
> >
> > > > ies.
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > > > > > > c(V)=3D3D3D3D3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > > > > > > > > > e=3D3D3D3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Dhanyavaad for your post. The following is consistent
> > > > > > > > > > with what you have posted earlier, so your ideas and work
> > > > > > > > > > predate it:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the
> > > > > > > > > > thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the
> > > > > > > > > > external environment, which means it is unlimited...."
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > "Entropy" is mentioned. You went to the IIT, don't you
> > > > > > > > > recall what big confusion the concepts of "entropy" cause
> > > > > > > > > in students and professors alike!
> >
> > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > It was a clumsy notion (a mathematical construct) to cover up=
> > > > > > > > > > with what you have posted earlier, so your ideas and work
> > > > > > > > > > predate it:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the
> > > > > > > > > > thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the
> > > > > > > > > > external environment, which means it is unlimited...."
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > "Entropy" is mentioned. You went to the IIT, don't you
> > > > > > > > > recall what big confusion the concepts of "entropy" cause
> > > > > > > > > in students and professors alike!
> >
> > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> the f=3D
> > > > act
> > > > > > > > that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it was done to =
> save t=3D
> > > > he
> > > > > > > > first law, that of
> > > > > > > > conservation of energy. =3D3DA0Now to "prove" that they took =
> > > > > > > > first law, that of
> the exam=3D
> > > > ple of
> > > > > > > > the pendulum, how it was constantly changing from kinetic to
> > > > > > > > potential; but if it banged
> > > > > > > > against something, all that energy would not really be destro=
> > > > > > > > the pendulum, how it was constantly changing from kinetic to
> > > > > > > > potential; but if it banged
> yed, b=3D
> > > > ut
> > > > > > > > go to increase the entropy of the universe as the heat from t=
> hat
> > > > > > > > impact would be dissipated
> > > > > > > > into the mathematical notion of entropy, that is, the increas=
> > > > > > > > impact would be dissipated
> e of
> > > > > > > > disorder in the universe. =3D3DA0And to study entropy in deta=
> il, we h=3D
> > > > ave to
> > > > > > > > study the Carnot cycle, the dQ/T bit... heat engines are the =
> main k=3D
> > > > ey
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > understand how entropy works, that is, how to decrease entrop=
> y mean=3D
> > > > t
> > > > > > > > making more efficient engines. =3D3DA0So really the concept o=
> f entrop=3D
> > > > y has
> > > > > > > > to do with heat
> > > > > > > > engines, how to get maximum work out of heat. =3D3DA0To that =
> > > > > > > > to do with heat
> extent, =3D
> > > > it has
> > > > > > > > been useful as a notion and indeed with this concept it was p=
> ossibl=3D
> > > > e
> > > > > > > > to make more efficient
> > > > > > > > heat engines. =3D3DA0It was thus not as totally useless as re=
> > > > > > > > to make more efficient
> lativity=3D
> > > > , sinc=3D3D
> > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > it did have a technical basis.
> >
> > > > > > > > Now we have cold engines so to say, like solar power to elect=
> > > > > > > > it did have a technical basis.
> >
> ric to
> > > > > > > > motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used to in the 1=
> 9th
> > > > > > > > century. =3D3DA0But, unfortunately, the
> > > > > > > > concept of entropy has been as much woven into science as the=
> law o=3D
> > > > f
> > > > > > > > conservation of energy. =3D3DA0Feynman did his best to explai=
> n entrop=3D
> > > > y but =3D3D
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > never found anyone
> > > > > > > > who really thought that entropy made any real sense. =3D3DA0I=
> also pa=3D
> > > > ssed a
> > > > > > > > course in quantum mechanics. =3D3DA0It required suspension of=
> disbeli=3D
> > > > ef,
> > > > > > > > rather like Hindi movies.
> > > > > > > > Also, a more useless course could never be found, but at that=
> > > > > > > > rather like Hindi movies.
> time =3D
> > > > how
> > > > > > > > was I to know that? =3D3DA0But in later professional work, wh=
> en I was=3D
> > > > =A0the
> > > > > > > > only one to make
> > > > > > > > huge and small antennas work, I found out how totally useless=
> and
> > > > > > > > worthless that was, and relied totally upon the laws of Maxwe=
> ll
> > > > > > > > (electromagnetic wave propagation,
> > > > > > > > circuit theory related to microwave impedance matching, etc.)
> >
> > > > > > > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
> >
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from, and
> > > > > > > audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
> > > > > > > daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
> > > > > > > (working title) project was offered in less than five
> > > > > > > minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
> > > > > > > what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
> > > > > > > mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
> > > > > > > the "New Movie..." thread.
> >
> > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > Great, great. =3DA0I will look forward to that eagerly.
> > > > > > > > (electromagnetic wave propagation,
> > > > > > > > circuit theory related to microwave impedance matching, etc.)
> >
> > > > > > > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
> >
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from, and
> > > > > > > audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
> > > > > > > daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
> > > > > > > (working title) project was offered in less than five
> > > > > > > minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
> > > > > > > what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
> > > > > > > mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
> > > > > > > the "New Movie..." thread.
> >
> > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> >
> > > > > Nothing fantastic, just something about the conditions
> > > > > and boundaries governing scientific experiments.
> >
> > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > Well, just uploaded my book! =A0Let us hope it comes out soon and mor=
> > > > > Nothing fantastic, just something about the conditions
> > > > > and boundaries governing scientific experiments.
> >
> > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> e
> > > > importantly, sells well. =A0The best thing here, I will be relying
> > > > directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. =A0And I gotta keep on=
> at
> > > > it...
> >
> > > Right on . . . or shall I say write on!
> >
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
> >
> > A series of instructional videos could be based on the book.
> >
> > > > it...
> >
> > > Right on . . . or shall I say write on!
> >
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
> >
> > A series of instructional videos could be based on the book.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> > Om Shanti
>
> This book is about metaphysics, not physics. We have to get our
> metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil
> and incorrigible abusive, parasitical quotawallahs will once again
> misuse the new physics with their constant abuse, the way they have
> always, done.
> Sound metaphysics leading to sound morality and proper spirituality,
> precedes physics and resulting technology. For a moral population,
> only, deserves the positive benefits of the surpassing mind.
> Populations with low morality, may live in squalor, under the rule of
> quotawallahs, forever demanding quotas.
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
I see that you are working on, or quoting from the
> metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil
> and incorrigible abusive, parasitical quotawallahs will once again
> misuse the new physics with their constant abuse, the way they have
> always, done.
> Sound metaphysics leading to sound morality and proper spirituality,
> precedes physics and resulting technology. For a moral population,
> only, deserves the positive benefits of the surpassing mind.
> Populations with low morality, may live in squalor, under the rule of
> quotawallahs, forever demanding quotas.
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
Introduction of the book. Will it lay down some sort of a
"metaphysical method" for analyzing issues?
pundit.har...@inderome.com
May 5, 2012, 11:55:54 AM5/5/12
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"This book is about metaphysics, not physics. We have to get our
metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil"
Can you give an example of this please?
metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil"
Btw, jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is only stringing you along. Watch that
he doesn't turn on you like a mad dog once again. Be careful not to
mention that his entire web image is an invented fraud. Not to mention he
has little if any grasp of the most basic concepts of science. The dog
continues to wag its tail as long as you throw it a bone, but it can turn
on you and your wife as it once did.
DMJoshi
May 5, 2012, 12:32:10 PM5/5/12
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On May 5, 4:55 pm, pundit.hari.kumar...@inderome.com wrote:
> "This book is about metaphysics, not physics. We have to get our
> metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil"
>
> Can you give an example of this please?
>
> Btw, jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is only stringing you along. Watch that
> he doesn't turn on you like a mad dog once again.
When did jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc turn Arindam Banerjee a mad dog?
> "This book is about metaphysics, not physics. We have to get our
> metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil"
>
> Can you give an example of this please?
>
> Btw, jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is only stringing you along. Watch that
> he doesn't turn on you like a mad dog once again.
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
May 5, 2012, 12:54:43 PM5/5/12
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On 5/4/2012 5:35 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>
> This book is about metaphysics, not physics. We have to get our
> metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil
> and incorrigible abusive, parasitical quotawallahs will once again
> misuse the new physics with their constant abuse, the way they have
> always, done.
> Sound metaphysics leading to sound morality and proper spirituality,
> precedes physics and resulting technology. For a moral population,
> only, deserves the positive benefits of the surpassing mind.
> Populations with low morality, may live in squalor, under the rule of
> quotawallahs, forever demanding quotas.
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
Tsk, tsk! Arindumb has descended from his self-claimed "divine status"
>
> This book is about metaphysics, not physics. We have to get our
> metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil
> and incorrigible abusive, parasitical quotawallahs will once again
> misuse the new physics with their constant abuse, the way they have
> always, done.
> Sound metaphysics leading to sound morality and proper spirituality,
> precedes physics and resulting technology. For a moral population,
> only, deserves the positive benefits of the surpassing mind.
> Populations with low morality, may live in squalor, under the rule of
> quotawallahs, forever demanding quotas.
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
to the level of Aristotle (a "non-divine" mortal). What a descent! Why
the descent, O Nobel [sic] One?
After non-stop rants about "einsteinian scum," and the need to right
(through writing) all the alleged wrongs in present-day physics, the
Arindumbkopf now pretends to take it up a notch through the use of the
prefix, meta-, with the word physics. Wow! Wait it doesn't stop there. A
"crusade" is on for "sound morality" and "proper spirituality" (whatever
these vacuous terms mean in physics), and elimination of squalor,
abuse/misuse of Arindumber physics, blah, blah.
Arindumbkopf, the only thing with the word relevant to you/your
discussions/your physics, and one that contains "meta," is Metamucil.
Psyllium ("saat isaabgol" in Lady Kaka's "saniskrit") is what powers the
infernal force injun. Knock yourself out.
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
May 5, 2012, 1:30:57 PM5/5/12
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On 5/5/2012 9:32 AM, DMJoshi wrote:
> On May 5, 4:55 pm, pundit.hari.kumar...@inderome.com wrote:
>> "This book is about metaphysics, not physics. We have to get our
>> metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil"
>>
>> Can you give an example of this please?
>>
>> Btw, jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is only stringing you along. Watch that
>> he doesn't turn on you like a mad dog once again.
>
> When did jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc turn Arindam Banerjee a mad dog?
>
Nah! Cuckoo Curry Ku, being rabid, sees rabies everywhere, pretty much
> On May 5, 4:55 pm, pundit.hari.kumar...@inderome.com wrote:
>> "This book is about metaphysics, not physics. We have to get our
>> metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil"
>>
>> Can you give an example of this please?
>>
>> Btw, jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is only stringing you along. Watch that
>> he doesn't turn on you like a mad dog once again.
>
> When did jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc turn Arindam Banerjee a mad dog?
>
like he sees nazis everywhere in India because of the swastika.
pundit.har...@inderoma.com
May 5, 2012, 3:45:47 PM5/5/12
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> Btw, jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is only stringing you along. =A0Watch
t=
hat
> he doesn't turn on you like a mad dog once again.
"When did jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc turn Arindam Banerjee a mad dog?"
Arindam came to jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. seeking help for his father's
> he doesn't turn on you like a mad dog once again.
"When did jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc turn Arindam Banerjee a mad dog?"
charity in india. If one accepts jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. self
invented web image one would think he is very connected and familiar with
india.
But soon Arindam came to see that it was all a self invented web image.
Jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. was not indian at all and really knew little
about it.
Jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. was first very flattered and almost wet his
pants at the attention he was getting from a real indian. But when his
fraud was discovered he turned like a mad dog on Arindam and his wife in
the most virulent way, especially the things he said about the wife.
There you have it, the entire sorted story.
pundit.har...@inderona.com
May 5, 2012, 3:52:12 PM5/5/12
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>> Btw, jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is only stringing you along. Watch
that
>> he doesn't turn on you like a mad dog once again.
>
> When did jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc turn Arindam Banerjee a mad dog?
>
"Nah! Cuckoo Curry Ku, being rabid, sees rabies everywhere, pretty much
like he sees nazis everywhere in India because of the swastika."
Good to hear from you again. And a nice pot of chinese tea to bless your
that
>> he doesn't turn on you like a mad dog once again.
>
> When did jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc turn Arindam Banerjee a mad dog?
>
"Nah! Cuckoo Curry Ku, being rabid, sees rabies everywhere, pretty much
like he sees nazis everywhere in India because of the swastika."
day.
Now, what is your story about nazi presence in india?
We the inherently superior do from time to time condescend to hear the
hired help. So, go for it, chop chop if you please, our time is limited
for nazi stories.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 5, 2012, 8:45:11 PM5/5/12
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Arindam Banerjee
May 6, 2012, 10:13:48 AM5/6/12
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On May 5, 10:59 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
No, I am not.
Will it lay down some sort of a
> "metaphysical method" for analyzing issues?
It will be a very subjective process, different for every individual,
as per his or her experiences - so far as analysing worldly issues are
concerned.
A book is of course printed material, the material itself cannot
change!
What one makes of it, is beyond the scope of the author.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Will it lay down some sort of a
> "metaphysical method" for analyzing issues?
as per his or her experiences - so far as analysing worldly issues are
concerned.
A book is of course printed material, the material itself cannot
change!
What one makes of it, is beyond the scope of the author.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Arindam Banerjee
May 6, 2012, 10:32:19 AM5/6/12
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On May 6, 10:45 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
More logic and intuitive insight, with inspired understanding of
natural evidence as opposed to objective experiment.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article
> > <e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article
natural evidence as opposed to objective experiment.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Arindam Banerjee
May 6, 2012, 11:11:19 AM5/6/12
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On May 6, 1:55 am, pundit.hari.kumar...@inderome.com wrote:
> "This book is about metaphysics, not physics. We have to get our
> metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil"
>
> Can you give an example of this please?
the modern world, where scientists do not mind working for those
> "This book is about metaphysics, not physics. We have to get our
> metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil"
>
> Can you give an example of this please?
intending murdering millions of innocents with nuclear weapons,
chemical weapons, biological weapons, etc.
They have no morals, or rather they cannot afford any if they want
fame and money and pensions; they are thus merely pawns of evil
forces.
With a strong metaphysical base to their existence, they would lead
moral lives and not make evil inventions for evil people.
The world would thus be a better place.
> Btw, jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is only stringing you along.
all the attention he pays me?
Watch that
> he doesn't turn on you like a mad dog once again.
sounds very much reformed, so far as I am concerned. Which is very
good, again, so far as I am concerned.
Be careful not to
> mention that his entire web image is an invented fraud.
Not to mention he
> has little if any grasp of the most basic concepts of science.
his science. Plus, he appreciates my new physics, which is very good,
again
so far as I am concerned. Many people with PhDs in physics have found
no fundamental fault in my work, and Jai is only following their
footsteps.
The dog
> continues to wag its tail as long as you throw it a bone, but it can turn
> on you and your wife as it once did.
good for me isn't it? I mean, I have had no luck with anyone else
around, just see what absolute
shits the mean and horrid Jai's goon squad members are, being always
out to insult and demean me; so I have to make the most of whatever
positive I may get,
from wherever.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
May 6, 2012, 11:35:45 AM5/6/12
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On 5/6/2012 7:13 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On May 5, 10:59 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>> In article<e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
>> Arindam Banerjee<adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
>>
> On May 5, 10:59 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>> In article<e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
>> Arindam Banerjee<adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
>>
>>> This book is about metaphysics, not physics. We have to get our
>>> metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil
>>> and incorrigible abusive, parasitical quotawallahs will once again
>>> misuse the new physics with their constant abuse, the way they have
>>> always, done.
>>> Sound metaphysics leading to sound morality and proper spirituality,
>>> precedes physics and resulting technology. For a moral population,
>>> only, deserves the positive benefits of the surpassing mind.
>>> Populations with low morality, may live in squalor, under the rule of
>>> quotawallahs, forever demanding quotas.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Arindam Banerjee
>>
>> I see that you are working on, or quoting from the
>> Introduction of the book.
Oooooh! That would have been a nice "Preface" to this "metafizzicks"
>>> metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil
>>> and incorrigible abusive, parasitical quotawallahs will once again
>>> misuse the new physics with their constant abuse, the way they have
>>> always, done.
>>> Sound metaphysics leading to sound morality and proper spirituality,
>>> precedes physics and resulting technology. For a moral population,
>>> only, deserves the positive benefits of the surpassing mind.
>>> Populations with low morality, may live in squalor, under the rule of
>>> quotawallahs, forever demanding quotas.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Arindam Banerjee
>>
>> I see that you are working on, or quoting from the
>> Introduction of the book.
book. Looks like it struck a chord with Lady Kaka (Jay Stevens), whose
knowledge of "fizzicks" is on par with that of Arindumb. What is title
of this "magnum opus," anyway? Is it in "saniskrit" - the language of
"true Hindus"?
>
> No, I am not.
>
Dang! KLPD for Lady Kaka.
> Will it lay down some sort of a
>> "metaphysical method" for analyzing issues?
>
pretend "saniskrit scholar" like Arindumb. The opening line of the
preface is "agni mile..." with footnotes from Apte.
> It will be a very subjective process, different for every individual,
> as per his or her experiences - so far as analysing worldly issues are
> concerned.
> A book is of course printed material, the material itself cannot
> change!
> What one makes of it, is beyond the scope of the author.
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
>>
>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> Om Shanti
>>
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 6, 2012, 3:03:58 PM5/6/12
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In article <36c69a1c-6ff9-4025...@l5g2000pbo.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> posted:
> ..googl=3D
> > > > egroup=3D3D
> bg.goo=3D
> > > > glegro=3D3D
> 3g2000pb=3D
> > > > c.google=3D3D
> > > > > > > groups=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ..com>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> poste=
> d:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 3:31=3D3D3D3D3DA0pm, Pentcho Valev <pv=
> a...@yah=3D
> > > > oo.com> =3D3D
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perh=
> aps th=3D
> > > > e most=3D3D
> > > > > > > =3DA0ser=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ious
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > challenge ever made to the second law of thermody=
> namics=3D
> > > > :
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not just entropy and relativity, quantum rubbish =
> has to=3D
> > > > =A0go as=3D3D
> > > > > > > =3DA0wel=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > l.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for bett=
> er tec=3D
> > > > hnolog=3D3D
> > > > > > > ies.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > c(V)=3D3D3D3D3D3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > e=3D3D3D3D3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dhanyavaad for your post. The following is consiste=
> nt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with what you have posted earlier, so your ideas an=
> u
> > > > > > > > > > > > recall what big confusion the concepts of "entropy" c=
> ver up=3D
> > > > =A0the f=3D3D
> > > > > > > act
> > > > > > > > > > > that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it was do=
> ne to =3D
> > > > save t=3D3D
> ey took =3D
> > > > the exam=3D3D
> > > > > > > ple of
> > > > > > > > > > > the pendulum, how it was constantly changing from kinet=
> destro=3D
> > > > yed, b=3D3D
> > > > > > > ut
> > > > > > > > > > > go to increase the entropy of the universe as the heat =
> from t=3D
> ncreas=3D
> > > > e of
> > > > > > > > > > > disorder in the universe. =3D3D3DA0And to study entropy=
> in deta=3D
> > > > il, we h=3D3D
> > > > > > > ave to
> > > > > > > > > > > study the Carnot cycle, the dQ/T bit... heat engines ar=
> e the =3D
> > > > main k=3D3D
> > > > > > > ey
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > understand how entropy works, that is, how to decrease =
> entrop=3D
> > > > y mean=3D3D
> > > > > > > t
> > > > > > > > > > > making more efficient engines. =3D3D3DA0So really the c=
> oncept o=3D
> > > > f entrop=3D3D
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> > > > extent, =3D3D
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> was p=3D
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> > > > lativity=3D3D
> > > > > > > , sinc=3D3D3D
> elect=3D
> > > > ric to
> > > > > > > > > > > motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used to in=
> the 1=3D
> > > > 9th
> > > > > > > > > > > century. =3D3D3DA0But, unfortunately, the
> > > > > > > > > > > concept of entropy has been as much woven into science =
> as the=3D
> > > > =A0law o=3D3D
> > > > > > > f
> > > > > > > > > > > conservation of energy. =3D3D3DA0Feynman did his best t=
> o explai=3D
> > > > n entrop=3D3D
> > > > > > > y but =3D3D3D
> > > > =A0also pa=3D3D
> > > > > > > ssed a
> > > > > > > > > > > course in quantum mechanics. =3D3D3DA0It required suspe=
> nsion of=3D
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> > > > =A0time =3D3D
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> > > > > > > > > > > was I to know that? =3D3D3DA0But in later professional =
> work, wh=3D
> > > > en I was=3D3D
> > > > > > > =3DA0the
> > > > > > > > > > > only one to make
> > > > > > > > > > > huge and small antennas work, I found out how totally u=
> seless=3D
> > > > =A0and
> > > > > > > > > > > worthless that was, and relied totally upon the laws of=
> Maxwe=3D
> > > > ll
> > > > > > > > > > > (electromagnetic wave propagation,
> > > > > > > > > > > circuit theory related to microwave impedance matching,=
> and mor=3D
> > > > e
> > > > > > > importantly, sells well. =3DA0The best thing here, I will be re=
> lying
> > > > > > > directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. =3DA0And I gotta=
> keep on=3D
> > > > =A0at
> > > > metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. =A0Otherwise the evil
[...]
Training will be imparted to qualified teachers who have a passion
for the subject in the respective schools and outsiders too, he said.
"Introducing Vedic maths in schools is good but no study has been
done on this fast method of arithmetic. A lot depends on intuition
and its logical form has to be codified for computer application. MSc
in Vedic maths is offered in UP but it is yet to be accepted by
higher centres of mathematics," said K V Jayakumar, Director, Kerala
School of Mathematics.
Source - Unlocking the maths terror
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/unlocking-the-maths-terror/211113-60-122.html
Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > In article
> > > =A0<e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > In article
> > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > =3DA0<164d00ad-19a2-48d9-ac38-7963b7459...@qd3g2000pbb.googlegrou=
> >
> > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > In article
> ps.com>,
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > In article <4aea06c8-9c38-418f-a778-978012c6b...@wp13g2000pbb=
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> ..googl=3D
> > > > egroup=3D3D
> > > > > > > s.com>,
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > In article <45e14266-9447-4572-aaeb-1841ad437...@t2g2000p=
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> bg.goo=3D
> > > > glegro=3D3D
> > > > > > > ups.com>,
> > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3DA0<8477dd69-0561-4445-9582-d58a70924...@qg=
> > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In article
> 3g2000pb=3D
> > > > c.google=3D3D
> > > > > > > groups=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ..com>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> poste=
> d:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 3:31=3D3D3D3D3DA0pm, Pentcho Valev <pv=
> a...@yah=3D
> > > > oo.com> =3D3D
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published perh=
> aps th=3D
> > > > e most=3D3D
> > > > > > > =3DA0ser=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ious
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > challenge ever made to the second law of thermody=
> namics=3D
> > > > :
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not just entropy and relativity, quantum rubbish =
> has to=3D
> > > > =A0go as=3D3D
> > > > > > > =3DA0wel=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > l.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for bett=
> er tec=3D
> > > > hnolog=3D3D
> > > > > > > ies.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > c(V)=3D3D3D3D3D3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > e=3D3D3D3D3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dhanyavaad for your post. The following is consiste=
> nt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with what you have posted earlier, so your ideas an=
> d work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > predate it:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > external environment, which means it is unlimited..=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > predate it:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover, the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by the
> ..."
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Entropy" is mentioned. You went to the IIT, don't yo=
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> u
> > > > > > > > > > > > recall what big confusion the concepts of "entropy" c=
> ause
> > > > > > > > > > > > in students and professors alike!
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > It was a clumsy notion (a mathematical construct) to co=
> > > > > > > > > > > > in students and professors alike!
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> ver up=3D
> > > > =A0the f=3D3D
> > > > > > > act
> > > > > > > > > > > that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it was do=
> ne to =3D
> > > > save t=3D3D
> > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > > > first law, that of
> > > > > > > > > > > conservation of energy. =3D3D3DA0Now to "prove" that th=
> > > > > > > > > > > first law, that of
> ey took =3D
> > > > the exam=3D3D
> > > > > > > ple of
> > > > > > > > > > > the pendulum, how it was constantly changing from kinet=
> ic to
> > > > > > > > > > > potential; but if it banged
> > > > > > > > > > > against something, all that energy would not really be =
> > > > > > > > > > > potential; but if it banged
> destro=3D
> > > > yed, b=3D3D
> > > > > > > ut
> > > > > > > > > > > go to increase the entropy of the universe as the heat =
> from t=3D
> > > > hat
> > > > > > > > > > > impact would be dissipated
> > > > > > > > > > > into the mathematical notion of entropy, that is, the i=
> > > > > > > > > > > impact would be dissipated
> ncreas=3D
> > > > e of
> > > > > > > > > > > disorder in the universe. =3D3D3DA0And to study entropy=
> in deta=3D
> > > > il, we h=3D3D
> > > > > > > ave to
> > > > > > > > > > > study the Carnot cycle, the dQ/T bit... heat engines ar=
> e the =3D
> > > > main k=3D3D
> > > > > > > ey
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > understand how entropy works, that is, how to decrease =
> entrop=3D
> > > > y mean=3D3D
> > > > > > > t
> > > > > > > > > > > making more efficient engines. =3D3D3DA0So really the c=
> oncept o=3D
> > > > f entrop=3D3D
> > > > > > > y has
> > > > > > > > > > > to do with heat
> > > > > > > > > > > engines, how to get maximum work out of heat. =3D3D3DA0=
> > > > > > > > > > > to do with heat
> To that =3D
> > > > extent, =3D3D
> > > > > > > it has
> > > > > > > > > > > been useful as a notion and indeed with this concept it=
> was p=3D
> > > > ossibl=3D3D
> > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > > > to make more efficient
> > > > > > > > > > > heat engines. =3D3D3DA0It was thus not as totally usele=
> > > > > > > > > > > to make more efficient
> ss as re=3D
> > > > lativity=3D3D
> > > > > > > , sinc=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > > > it did have a technical basis.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Now we have cold engines so to say, like solar power to=
> > > > > > > > > > > it did have a technical basis.
> >
> elect=3D
> > > > ric to
> > > > > > > > > > > motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used to in=
> the 1=3D
> > > > 9th
> > > > > > > > > > > century. =3D3D3DA0But, unfortunately, the
> > > > > > > > > > > concept of entropy has been as much woven into science =
> as the=3D
> > > > =A0law o=3D3D
> > > > > > > f
> > > > > > > > > > > conservation of energy. =3D3D3DA0Feynman did his best t=
> o explai=3D
> > > > n entrop=3D3D
> > > > > > > y but =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > never found anyone
> > > > > > > > > > > who really thought that entropy made any real sense. =
> =3D3D3DA0I=3D
> > > > > > > > > > > never found anyone
> > > > > > > > > > > who really thought that entropy made any real sense. =
> > > > =A0also pa=3D3D
> > > > > > > ssed a
> > > > > > > > > > > course in quantum mechanics. =3D3D3DA0It required suspe=
> nsion of=3D
> > > > =A0disbeli=3D3D
> > > > > > > ef,
> > > > > > > > > > > rather like Hindi movies.
> > > > > > > > > > > Also, a more useless course could never be found, but a=
> > > > > > > > > > > rather like Hindi movies.
> t that=3D
> > > > =A0time =3D3D
> > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > > > was I to know that? =3D3D3DA0But in later professional =
> work, wh=3D
> > > > en I was=3D3D
> > > > > > > =3DA0the
> > > > > > > > > > > only one to make
> > > > > > > > > > > huge and small antennas work, I found out how totally u=
> seless=3D
> > > > =A0and
> > > > > > > > > > > worthless that was, and relied totally upon the laws of=
> Maxwe=3D
> > > > ll
> > > > > > > > > > > (electromagnetic wave propagation,
> > > > > > > > > > > circuit theory related to microwave impedance matching,=
> etc.)
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from, and
> > > > > > > > > > audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
> > > > > > > > > > daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
> > > > > > > > > > (working title) project was offered in less than five
> > > > > > > > > > minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
> > > > > > > > > > what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
> > > > > > > > > > mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
> > > > > > > > > > the "New Movie..." thread.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > Great, great. =3D3DA0I will look forward to that eagerly.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from, and
> > > > > > > > > > audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
> > > > > > > > > > daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam"
> > > > > > > > > > (working title) project was offered in less than five
> > > > > > > > > > minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lot of
> > > > > > > > > > what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to be
> > > > > > > > > > mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post in
> > > > > > > > > > the "New Movie..." thread.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> >
> > > > > > > > Nothing fantastic, just something about the conditions
> > > > > > > > and boundaries governing scientific experiments.
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > Well, just uploaded my book! =3DA0Let us hope it comes out soon=
> > > > > > > > Nothing fantastic, just something about the conditions
> > > > > > > > and boundaries governing scientific experiments.
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> and mor=3D
> > > > e
> > > > > > > importantly, sells well. =3DA0The best thing here, I will be re=
> lying
> > > > > > > directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. =3DA0And I gotta=
> keep on=3D
> > > > =A0at
> > > > > > > it...
> >
> > > > > > Right on . . . or shall I say write on!
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > A series of instructional videos could be based on the book.
> >
> > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > This book is about metaphysics, not physics. =A0We have to get our
> >
> > > > > > Right on . . . or shall I say write on!
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > A series of instructional videos could be based on the book.
> >
> > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. =A0Otherwise the evil
> > > > and incorrigible abusive, parasitical quotawallahs will once again
> > > > misuse the new physics with their constant abuse, the way they have
> > > > always, done.
> > > > Sound metaphysics leading to sound morality and proper spirituality,
> > > > precedes physics and resulting technology. =A0For a moral population,
> > > > misuse the new physics with their constant abuse, the way they have
> > > > always, done.
> > > > Sound metaphysics leading to sound morality and proper spirituality,
> > > > only, deserves the positive benefits of the surpassing mind.
> > > > Populations with low morality, may live in squalor, under the rule of
> > > > quotawallahs, forever demanding quotas.
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > I see that you are working on, or quoting from the
> > > Introduction of the book. Will it lay down some sort of a
> > > "metaphysical method" for analyzing issues?
> >
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
> >
> > Metaphysical method, that is, along the lines of scientific method.
> >
> > > > Populations with low morality, may live in squalor, under the rule of
> > > > quotawallahs, forever demanding quotas.
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > I see that you are working on, or quoting from the
> > > Introduction of the book. Will it lay down some sort of a
> > > "metaphysical method" for analyzing issues?
> >
> > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > Om Shanti
> >
> > Metaphysical method, that is, along the lines of scientific method.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> > Om Shanti
>
> More logic and intuitive insight, with inspired understanding of
> natural evidence as opposed to objective experiment.
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
Speaking of the intuitive method, a related excerpt:
> natural evidence as opposed to objective experiment.
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
[...]
Training will be imparted to qualified teachers who have a passion
for the subject in the respective schools and outsiders too, he said.
"Introducing Vedic maths in schools is good but no study has been
done on this fast method of arithmetic. A lot depends on intuition
and its logical form has to be codified for computer application. MSc
in Vedic maths is offered in UP but it is yet to be accepted by
higher centres of mathematics," said K V Jayakumar, Director, Kerala
School of Mathematics.
Source - Unlocking the maths terror
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/unlocking-the-maths-terror/211113-60-122.html
Arindam Banerjee
May 6, 2012, 8:01:07 PM5/6/12
to
On May 7, 5:03 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <36c69a1c-6ff9-4025-bb0d-4d366b9be...@l5g2000pbo.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
Indeed, the Vedic approach to arithmetic is perfectly integral - there
is no question of dropping non-significant information as is done
these days with decimals. It may look like overkill, but it is not
really so if you consider modern
information technology. Effectively the perfect transfer of any
electronic file (in any format) depends upon, ulitmately, the
transmission of that number corresponding to that particular file -
even the slightest mistake makes it a
different number and results in to transmission. Perfection, or
else! In hardware terms, all the bits must go exactly without change
or none at all. In other words, even the slightest mistake makes for
rejection - in percentage terms,
a very very very low percentage error results in error. In other
words, modern comm. technology embraces the perfection of the number,
not its attenuation in any way. In fact with error of any sort,
digital communication will not
work at all over the period of the error.
Anyone in computer science knows fully well the impact of rounding off
of numbers upon ultimate accuracy, the need for multi precision
arithmetic as a result, and so on.
Ah well, this is just to show how philosophy impacts upon mathematics
in the pure sense, then to the application sense... deep subjects,
these! I had a whiff of them when I was writing mp algorithms for
crypto system standards back in the early nineties
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <36c69a1c-6ff9-4025-bb0d-4d366b9be...@l5g2000pbo.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
is no question of dropping non-significant information as is done
these days with decimals. It may look like overkill, but it is not
really so if you consider modern
information technology. Effectively the perfect transfer of any
electronic file (in any format) depends upon, ulitmately, the
transmission of that number corresponding to that particular file -
even the slightest mistake makes it a
different number and results in to transmission. Perfection, or
else! In hardware terms, all the bits must go exactly without change
or none at all. In other words, even the slightest mistake makes for
rejection - in percentage terms,
a very very very low percentage error results in error. In other
words, modern comm. technology embraces the perfection of the number,
not its attenuation in any way. In fact with error of any sort,
digital communication will not
work at all over the period of the error.
Anyone in computer science knows fully well the impact of rounding off
of numbers upon ultimate accuracy, the need for multi precision
arithmetic as a result, and so on.
Ah well, this is just to show how philosophy impacts upon mathematics
in the pure sense, then to the application sense... deep subjects,
these! I had a whiff of them when I was writing mp algorithms for
crypto system standards back in the early nineties
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee.
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
May 6, 2012, 11:51:18 PM5/6/12
to
On 5/6/2012 5:01 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On May 7, 5:03 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>
>> Speaking of the intuitive method, a related excerpt:
>>
>> [...]
>> Training will be imparted to qualified teachers who have a passion
>> for the subject in the respective schools and outsiders too, he said.
>> "Introducing Vedic maths in schools is good but no study has been
>> done on this fast method of arithmetic. A lot depends on intuition
>> and its logical form has to be codified for computer application. MSc
>> in Vedic maths is offered in UP but it is yet to be accepted by
>> higher centres of mathematics," said K V Jayakumar, Director, Kerala
>> School of Mathematics.
>>
>> Source - Unlocking the maths terror
>>
>> http://ibnlive.in.com/news/unlocking-the-maths-terror/211113-60-122.html
>>
>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> Om Shanti
>
Ripper! Lady Kaka copy-pasted about "vedic mathematics" like she is very
> On May 7, 5:03 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>
>> Speaking of the intuitive method, a related excerpt:
>>
>> [...]
>> Training will be imparted to qualified teachers who have a passion
>> for the subject in the respective schools and outsiders too, he said.
>> "Introducing Vedic maths in schools is good but no study has been
>> done on this fast method of arithmetic. A lot depends on intuition
>> and its logical form has to be codified for computer application. MSc
>> in Vedic maths is offered in UP but it is yet to be accepted by
>> higher centres of mathematics," said K V Jayakumar, Director, Kerala
>> School of Mathematics.
>>
>> Source - Unlocking the maths terror
>>
>> http://ibnlive.in.com/news/unlocking-the-maths-terror/211113-60-122.html
>>
>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>> Om Shanti
>
knowledgeable about it. The third-rate copy-paste fraud cannot predict
the future, mostly because of inaccuracies in computations I suppose. So
much for using "vedic mathematics". However, she must have used it
recently for computing "tips" (numbers much less than 1.0) for
waitresses while she was wining/dining "clients" in Hawaii.
> Indeed, the Vedic approach to arithmetic is perfectly integral - there
> is no question of dropping non-significant information as is done
> these days with decimals. It may look like overkill, but it is not
> really so if you consider modern
> information technology. Effectively the perfect transfer of any
> electronic file (in any format) depends upon, ulitmately, the
> transmission of that number corresponding to that particular file -
> even the slightest mistake makes it a
> different number and results in to transmission. Perfection, or
> else! In hardware terms, all the bits must go exactly without change
> or none at all. In other words, even the slightest mistake makes for
> rejection - in percentage terms,
> a very very very low percentage error results in error. In other
> words, modern comm. technology embraces the perfection of the number,
> not its attenuation in any way. In fact with error of any sort,
> digital communication will not
> work at all over the period of the error.
>
Wonder how precision the "infernal phorce injun" needs. One small error
in j = -1/j and Arindumb will end up in my backyard instead of the stars.
> Anyone in computer science knows fully well the impact of rounding off
> of numbers upon ultimate accuracy, the need for multi precision
> arithmetic as a result, and so on.
>
two-bit precision is sufficient.
> Ah well, this is just to show how philosophy impacts upon mathematics
> in the pure sense, then to the application sense... deep subjects,
> these! I had a whiff of them when I was writing mp algorithms for
> crypto system standards back in the early nineties
>
place like that. Sheesh!
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee.
Arindam Banerjee
May 7, 2012, 12:17:13 AM5/7/12
to
On May 7, 1:35 am, "Myself Mallu, Yourself?" <KalluMallu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
an inquiring tail like a former pest, the h3? I have some time to
waste, so will give you some patta. Be grateful for that.
You need not know the title quotay, as I don't expect you to buy the
book.
Nor need you know what language it is in, for you are too stupid to
understand anything in any language, except that of the stick maybe.
> > No, I am not.
>
> Dang! KLPD for Lady Kaka.
>
> > Will it lay down some sort of a
> >> "metaphysical method" for analyzing issues?
>
> Yup! The book will be about "vedic metaphysics" as "interpreted" by a
> pretend "saniskrit scholar" like Arindumb. The opening line of the
> preface is "agni mile..." with footnotes from Apte.
Wrong as ever, quotay.
> > It will be a very subjective process, different for every individual,
> > as per his or her experiences - so far as analysing worldly issues are
> > concerned.
> > A book is of course printed material, the material itself cannot
> > change!
> > What one makes of it, is beyond the scope of the author.
>
> Yup! The author only wants the money for snake oil and its production.
The author expects everyone (even quotawallahs) to read the book, and
also expects, albeit very hopefully, a decent fraction of everyone
will buy it. Not for just now, but throughout the
foreseeable future. Classics are like that. I will publish more
books this year and self-publishing being the wonderful indepedent
thing it is, I might just make some money
with the grace of my readers. I don't suppose sales will be too hot
to begin with, but I have no doubt that they will sell very well a
hundred years from now till the
end of time - so long as men can read and eyes can see.
I do need money to make interstellar spaceships, creating colonies in
outer space with at least 4 Km long self-reliant ships, doing all
manufacturing there, etc. in perfect harmony
and safety, far, far away from the now-ruling einstein-gandi bigJew-
gujJew combo pack and their supportive backstabbing babbling cretins
like you, quotay, and the
most esteemed and bilious Joshiji.
The guiding star for me is thus Ms J K Rowling Madame, the most
stupendously great writer that ever existed, so far as making money is
concerned.
Cheers (et tu too), quotay, for the Surya may shine on all, even you
blackhole-wallahs,
Arindam Banerjee, greatest genius of all time, sole god among lotsa
devils.
wrote:
> On 5/6/2012 7:13 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 5, 10:59 am, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
> > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> >> In article<e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> >> Arindam Banerjee<adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> >>> This book is about metaphysics, not physics. We have to get our
> >>> metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil
> >>> and incorrigible abusive, parasitical quotawallahs will once again
> >>> misuse the new physics with their constant abuse, the way they have
> >>> always, done.
> >>> Sound metaphysics leading to sound morality and proper spirituality,
> >>> precedes physics and resulting technology. For a moral population,
> >>> only, deserves the positive benefits of the surpassing mind.
> >>> Populations with low morality, may live in squalor, under the rule of
> >>> quotawallahs, forever demanding quotas.
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Arindam Banerjee
>
> >> I see that you are working on, or quoting from the
> >> Introduction of the book.
>
> Oooooh! That would have been a nice "Preface" to this "metafizzicks"
> book. Looks like it struck a chord with Lady Kaka (Jay Stevens), whose
> knowledge of "fizzicks" is on par with that of Arindumb. What is title
> of this "magnum opus," anyway? Is it in "saniskrit" - the language of
> "true Hindus"?
Hello quotay, kya baat, kaisi ho? Nasty as ever, or learning to curve
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 5, 10:59 am, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
> > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> >> In article<e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> >> Arindam Banerjee<adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> >>> This book is about metaphysics, not physics. We have to get our
> >>> metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. Otherwise the evil
> >>> and incorrigible abusive, parasitical quotawallahs will once again
> >>> misuse the new physics with their constant abuse, the way they have
> >>> always, done.
> >>> Sound metaphysics leading to sound morality and proper spirituality,
> >>> precedes physics and resulting technology. For a moral population,
> >>> only, deserves the positive benefits of the surpassing mind.
> >>> Populations with low morality, may live in squalor, under the rule of
> >>> quotawallahs, forever demanding quotas.
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Arindam Banerjee
>
> >> I see that you are working on, or quoting from the
> >> Introduction of the book.
>
> Oooooh! That would have been a nice "Preface" to this "metafizzicks"
> book. Looks like it struck a chord with Lady Kaka (Jay Stevens), whose
> knowledge of "fizzicks" is on par with that of Arindumb. What is title
> of this "magnum opus," anyway? Is it in "saniskrit" - the language of
> "true Hindus"?
an inquiring tail like a former pest, the h3? I have some time to
waste, so will give you some patta. Be grateful for that.
You need not know the title quotay, as I don't expect you to buy the
book.
Nor need you know what language it is in, for you are too stupid to
understand anything in any language, except that of the stick maybe.
> > No, I am not.
>
> Dang! KLPD for Lady Kaka.
>
> > Will it lay down some sort of a
> >> "metaphysical method" for analyzing issues?
>
> Yup! The book will be about "vedic metaphysics" as "interpreted" by a
> pretend "saniskrit scholar" like Arindumb. The opening line of the
> preface is "agni mile..." with footnotes from Apte.
> > It will be a very subjective process, different for every individual,
> > as per his or her experiences - so far as analysing worldly issues are
> > concerned.
> > A book is of course printed material, the material itself cannot
> > change!
> > What one makes of it, is beyond the scope of the author.
>
> Yup! The author only wants the money for snake oil and its production.
also expects, albeit very hopefully, a decent fraction of everyone
will buy it. Not for just now, but throughout the
foreseeable future. Classics are like that. I will publish more
books this year and self-publishing being the wonderful indepedent
thing it is, I might just make some money
with the grace of my readers. I don't suppose sales will be too hot
to begin with, but I have no doubt that they will sell very well a
hundred years from now till the
end of time - so long as men can read and eyes can see.
I do need money to make interstellar spaceships, creating colonies in
outer space with at least 4 Km long self-reliant ships, doing all
manufacturing there, etc. in perfect harmony
and safety, far, far away from the now-ruling einstein-gandi bigJew-
gujJew combo pack and their supportive backstabbing babbling cretins
like you, quotay, and the
most esteemed and bilious Joshiji.
The guiding star for me is thus Ms J K Rowling Madame, the most
stupendously great writer that ever existed, so far as making money is
concerned.
Cheers (et tu too), quotay, for the Surya may shine on all, even you
blackhole-wallahs,
Arindam Banerjee, greatest genius of all time, sole god among lotsa
devils.
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
May 7, 2012, 12:50:52 AM5/7/12
to
On 5/6/2012 9:17 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On May 7, 1:35 am, "Myself Mallu, Yourself?"<KalluMallu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Oooooh! That would have been a nice "Preface" to this "metafizzicks"
>> book. Looks like it struck a chord with Lady Kaka (Jay Stevens), whose
>> knowledge of "fizzicks" is on par with that of Arindumb. What is title
>> of this "magnum opus," anyway? Is it in "saniskrit" - the language of
>> "true Hindus"?
>
> Hello quotay, kya baat, kaisi ho? Nasty as ever, or learning to curve
> an inquiring tail like a former pest, the h3? I have some time to
> waste, so will give you some patta. Be grateful for that.
> You need not know the title quotay, as I don't expect you to buy the
> book.
Kotwal ke bete, aap ki dua se sabi theek thaak hai. I told you that I'd
> On May 7, 1:35 am, "Myself Mallu, Yourself?"<KalluMallu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Oooooh! That would have been a nice "Preface" to this "metafizzicks"
>> book. Looks like it struck a chord with Lady Kaka (Jay Stevens), whose
>> knowledge of "fizzicks" is on par with that of Arindumb. What is title
>> of this "magnum opus," anyway? Is it in "saniskrit" - the language of
>> "true Hindus"?
>
> Hello quotay, kya baat, kaisi ho? Nasty as ever, or learning to curve
> an inquiring tail like a former pest, the h3? I have some time to
> waste, so will give you some patta. Be grateful for that.
> You need not know the title quotay, as I don't expect you to buy the
> book.
buy your book on "physics" anytime - no point in bashing you for free.
Paisa de kar laat maara to apun ka paisa wasool. However, you switched
to "metaphysics" after baiting us. Metapijicks without kavita is not a
good deal. Need some stellar hits like, "bangdu likh jaiye to lagoonwa
ma baboonwa swoon hoibe kari" in the book for me to plonk down cash.
> Nor need you know what language it is in, for you are too stupid to
> understand anything in any language, except that of the stick maybe.
metapijicks. As for the stick, bring it on motherfucker.
>
>>> No, I am not.
>>
>> Dang! KLPD for Lady Kaka.
>>
>>> Will it lay down some sort of a
>>>> "metaphysical method" for analyzing issues?
>>
>> Yup! The book will be about "vedic metaphysics" as "interpreted" by a
>> pretend "saniskrit scholar" like Arindumb. The opening line of the
>> preface is "agni mile..." with footnotes from Apte.
>
> Wrong as ever, quotay.
>
>>> It will be a very subjective process, different for every individual,
>>> as per his or her experiences - so far as analysing worldly issues are
>>> concerned.
>>> A book is of course printed material, the material itself cannot
>>> change!
>>> What one makes of it, is beyond the scope of the author.
>>
>> Yup! The author only wants the money for snake oil and its production.
>
> The author expects everyone (even quotawallahs) to read the book, and
> also expects, albeit very hopefully, a decent fraction of everyone
> will buy it. Not for just now, but throughout the
> foreseeable future. Classics are like that. I will publish more
> books this year and self-publishing being the wonderful indepedent
> thing it is, I might just make some money
> with the grace of my readers. I don't suppose sales will be too hot
> to begin with, but I have no doubt that they will sell very well a
> hundred years from now till the
> end of time - so long as men can read and eyes can see.
>
Kotwal ka beta paisa lena mana kar raha hai. Kaisa zamana hai. Ek bar
naheen to har hafta khareedna padta hai kya?
> I do need money to make interstellar spaceships, creating colonies in
> outer space with at least 4 Km long self-reliant ships, doing all
> manufacturing there, etc. in perfect harmony
> and safety, far, far away from the now-ruling einstein-gandi bigJew-
> gujJew combo pack and their supportive backstabbing babbling cretins
> like you, quotay, and the
> most esteemed and bilious Joshiji.
>
Colonies in space. What an idea! Been around since before you were born,
dodo. Science fiction of yours is kinda stale. What next? ComSats?
Arthur C Clarke beat you to the punch on that.
> The guiding star for me is thus Ms J K Rowling Madame, the most
> stupendously great writer that ever existed, so far as making money is
> concerned.
>
the Seeker :-)
> Cheers (et tu too), quotay, for the Surya may shine on all, even you
> blackhole-wallahs,
>
> Arindam Banerjee, greatest genius of all time, sole god among lotsa
> devils.
>>
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 7, 2012, 2:48:07 AM5/7/12
to
In article <2f073639-8493-4648...@wp13g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> posted:
> legrou=3D
> 0pbb=3D
> > > ..googl=3D3D
> > > > > > egroup=3D3D3D
> 000p=3D
> > > bg.goo=3D3D
> > > > > > glegro=3D3D3D
> ....@qg=3D
> > > 3g2000pb=3D3D
> > > > > > c.google=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > groups=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > ..com>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> p=
> oste=3D
> > > d:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 3:31=3D3D3D3D3D3DA0pm, Pentcho Val=
> ev <pv=3D
> > > a...@yah=3D3D
> > > > > > oo.com> =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published =
> perh=3D
> > > aps th=3D3D
> > > > > > e most=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > =3D3DA0ser=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > ious
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > challenge ever made to the second law of ther=
> mody=3D
> > > namics=3D3D
> > > > > > :
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not just entropy and relativity, quantum rubb=
> ish =3D
> > > has to=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0go as=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > =3D3DA0wel=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > l.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for =
> bett=3D
> > > er tec=3D3D
> > > > > > hnolog=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ies.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c(V)=3D3D3D3D3D3D3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e=3D3D3D3D3D3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dhanyavaad for your post. The following is cons=
> iste=3D
> > > nt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with what you have posted earlier, so your idea=
> s an=3D
> > > d work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > predate it:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover,=
> the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by t=
> he
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > external environment, which means it is unlimit=
> ed..=3D
> t yo=3D
> > > u
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > recall what big confusion the concepts of "entrop=
> y" c=3D
> o co=3D
> > > ver up=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0the f=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > act
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it wa=
> s do=3D
> > > ne to =3D3D
> > > > > > save t=3D3D3D
> hat th=3D
> > > ey took =3D3D
> > > > > > the exam=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ple of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the pendulum, how it was constantly changing from k=
> inet=3D
> be =3D
> > > destro=3D3D
> > > > > > yed, b=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ut
> > > > > > > > > > > > > go to increase the entropy of the universe as the h=
> eat =3D
> > > from t=3D3D
> he i=3D
> > > ncreas=3D3D
> > > > > > e of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > disorder in the universe. =3D3D3D3DA0And to study e=
> ntropy=3D
> > > =A0in deta=3D3D
> > > > > > il, we h=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ave to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > study the Carnot cycle, the dQ/T bit... heat engine=
> s ar=3D
> > > e the =3D3D
> > > > > > main k=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ey
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > understand how entropy works, that is, how to decre=
> ase =3D
> > > entrop=3D3D
> > > > > > y mean=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > t
> > > > > > > > > > > > > making more efficient engines. =3D3D3D3DA0So really=
> the c=3D
> > > oncept o=3D3D
> > > > > > f entrop=3D3D3D
> 3D3DA0=3D
> > > To that =3D3D
> > > > > > extent, =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > it has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > been useful as a notion and indeed with this concep=
> t it=3D
> > > =A0was p=3D3D
> > > > > > ossibl=3D3D3D
> usele=3D
> > > ss as re=3D3D
> > > > > > lativity=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > , sinc=3D3D3D3D
> r to=3D
> > > =A0elect=3D3D
> > > > > > ric to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used t=
> o in=3D
> > > =A0the 1=3D3D
> > > > > > 9th
> > > > > > > > > > > > > century. =3D3D3D3DA0But, unfortunately, the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > concept of entropy has been as much woven into scie=
> nce =3D
> > > as the=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0law o=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > conservation of energy. =3D3D3D3DA0Feynman did his =
> best t=3D
> > > o explai=3D3D
> > > > > > n entrop=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > y but =3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > never found anyone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > who really thought that entropy made any real sense=
> .. =3D
> > > =3D3D3D3DA0I=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0also pa=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ssed a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > course in quantum mechanics. =3D3D3D3DA0It required=
> suspe=3D
> > > nsion of=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0disbeli=3D3D3D
> ut a=3D
> > > t that=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0time =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > > > > > was I to know that? =3D3D3D3DA0But in later profess=
> ional =3D
> > > work, wh=3D3D
> > > > > > en I was=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > =3D3DA0the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > only one to make
> > > > > > > > > > > > > huge and small antennas work, I found out how total=
> ly u=3D
> > > seless=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > worthless that was, and relied totally upon the law=
> s of=3D
> > > =A0Maxwe=3D3D
> > > > > > ll
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (electromagnetic wave propagation,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > circuit theory related to microwave impedance match=
> ing,=3D
> > > =A0etc.)
> t of
> > > > > > > > > > > > what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to =
> be
> > > > > > > > > > > > mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post=
> t soon=3D
> > > =A0and mor=3D3D
> > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > importantly, sells well. =3D3DA0The best thing here, I will=
> be re=3D
> > > lying
> > > > > > > > > directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. =3D3DA0And I=
> gotta=3D
> > > =A0keep on=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0at
> our
> > > > > > metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. =3DA0Otherwise=
> the evil
> > > > > > and incorrigible abusive, parasitical quotawallahs will once agai=
> n
> > > > > > misuse the new physics with their constant abuse, the way they ha=
> ve
> > > > > > always, done.
> > > > > > Sound metaphysics leading to sound morality and proper spirituali=
> ty,
> > > > > > precedes physics and resulting technology. =3DA0For a moral popul=
What's the state of crypto today and where is it going?
Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <36c69a1c-6ff9-4025-bb0d-4d366b9be...@l5g2000pbo.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > In article
> > > > > =3DA0<e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <36c69a1c-6ff9-4025-bb0d-4d366b9be...@l5g2000pbo.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > In article
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > =3D3DA0<164d00ad-19a2-48d9-ac38-7963b7459...@qd3g2000pbb.goog=
> >
> > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > In article
> legrou=3D
> > > ps.com>,
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > In article <4aea06c8-9c38-418f-a778-978012c6b...@wp13g200=
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> 0pbb=3D
> > > ..googl=3D3D
> > > > > > egroup=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > s.com>,
> > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > In article <45e14266-9447-4572-aaeb-1841ad437...@t2g2=
> > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> 000p=3D
> > > bg.goo=3D3D
> > > > > > glegro=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ups.com>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3D3DA0<8477dd69-0561-4445-9582-d58a70924=
> > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article
> ....@qg=3D
> > > 3g2000pb=3D3D
> > > > > > c.google=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > groups=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > ..com>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> p=
> oste=3D
> > > d:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 28, 3:31=3D3D3D3D3D3DA0pm, Pentcho Val=
> ev <pv=3D
> > > a...@yah=3D3D
> > > > > > oo.com> =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently scientists in Hong Kong published =
> perh=3D
> > > aps th=3D3D
> > > > > > e most=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > =3D3DA0ser=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > ious
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > challenge ever made to the second law of ther=
> mody=3D
> > > namics=3D3D
> > > > > > :
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not just entropy and relativity, quantum rubb=
> ish =3D
> > > has to=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0go as=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > =3D3DA0wel=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > l.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole of physics has to be rewritten for =
> bett=3D
> > > er tec=3D3D
> > > > > > hnolog=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ies.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c(V)=3D3D3D3D3D3D3Dc(mu,ep)+V
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e=3D3D3D3D3D3D3D0.5mVVN(N-k)
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dhanyavaad for your post. The following is cons=
> iste=3D
> > > nt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with what you have posted earlier, so your idea=
> s an=3D
> > > d work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > predate it:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...the Environment, Zihan Xu et al: "Moreover,=
> the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thermal velocity of ions can be maintained by t=
> he
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > external environment, which means it is unlimit=
> ed..=3D
> > > ..."
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Entropy" is mentioned. You went to the IIT, don'=
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> t yo=3D
> > > u
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > recall what big confusion the concepts of "entrop=
> y" c=3D
> > > ause
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in students and professors alike!
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It was a clumsy notion (a mathematical construct) t=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in students and professors alike!
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> o co=3D
> > > ver up=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0the f=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > act
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that energy is constantly getting destroyed - it wa=
> s do=3D
> > > ne to =3D3D
> > > > > > save t=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > > > > > first law, that of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > conservation of energy. =3D3D3D3DA0Now to "prove" t=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > first law, that of
> hat th=3D
> > > ey took =3D3D
> > > > > > the exam=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ple of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the pendulum, how it was constantly changing from k=
> inet=3D
> > > ic to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > potential; but if it banged
> > > > > > > > > > > > > against something, all that energy would not really=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > potential; but if it banged
> be =3D
> > > destro=3D3D
> > > > > > yed, b=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ut
> > > > > > > > > > > > > go to increase the entropy of the universe as the h=
> eat =3D
> > > from t=3D3D
> > > > > > hat
> > > > > > > > > > > > > impact would be dissipated
> > > > > > > > > > > > > into the mathematical notion of entropy, that is, t=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > impact would be dissipated
> he i=3D
> > > ncreas=3D3D
> > > > > > e of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > disorder in the universe. =3D3D3D3DA0And to study e=
> ntropy=3D
> > > =A0in deta=3D3D
> > > > > > il, we h=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ave to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > study the Carnot cycle, the dQ/T bit... heat engine=
> s ar=3D
> > > e the =3D3D
> > > > > > main k=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ey
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > understand how entropy works, that is, how to decre=
> ase =3D
> > > entrop=3D3D
> > > > > > y mean=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > t
> > > > > > > > > > > > > making more efficient engines. =3D3D3D3DA0So really=
> the c=3D
> > > oncept o=3D3D
> > > > > > f entrop=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > y has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to do with heat
> > > > > > > > > > > > > engines, how to get maximum work out of heat. =3D3D=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to do with heat
> 3D3DA0=3D
> > > To that =3D3D
> > > > > > extent, =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > it has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > been useful as a notion and indeed with this concep=
> t it=3D
> > > =A0was p=3D3D
> > > > > > ossibl=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to make more efficient
> > > > > > > > > > > > > heat engines. =3D3D3D3DA0It was thus not as totally=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to make more efficient
> usele=3D
> > > ss as re=3D3D
> > > > > > lativity=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > , sinc=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it did have a technical basis.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we have cold engines so to say, like solar powe=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it did have a technical basis.
> >
> r to=3D
> > > =A0elect=3D3D
> > > > > > ric to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > motion does not involve the heat cycle as it used t=
> o in=3D
> > > =A0the 1=3D3D
> > > > > > 9th
> > > > > > > > > > > > > century. =3D3D3D3DA0But, unfortunately, the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > concept of entropy has been as much woven into scie=
> nce =3D
> > > as the=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0law o=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > conservation of energy. =3D3D3D3DA0Feynman did his =
> best t=3D
> > > o explai=3D3D
> > > > > > n entrop=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > y but =3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > never found anyone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > who really thought that entropy made any real sense=
> .. =3D
> > > =3D3D3D3DA0I=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0also pa=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ssed a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > course in quantum mechanics. =3D3D3D3DA0It required=
> suspe=3D
> > > nsion of=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0disbeli=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ef,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > rather like Hindi movies.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, a more useless course could never be found, b=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > rather like Hindi movies.
> ut a=3D
> > > t that=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0time =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > > > > > was I to know that? =3D3D3D3DA0But in later profess=
> ional =3D
> > > work, wh=3D3D
> > > > > > en I was=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > =3D3DA0the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > only one to make
> > > > > > > > > > > > > huge and small antennas work, I found out how total=
> ly u=3D
> > > seless=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > worthless that was, and relied totally upon the law=
> s of=3D
> > > =A0Maxwe=3D3D
> > > > > > ll
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (electromagnetic wave propagation,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > circuit theory related to microwave impedance match=
> ing,=3D
> > > =A0etc.)
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hollywood loves a movie they can make big bucks from,=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, physics needs a thorough revision.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> and
> > > > > > > > > > > > audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
> > > > > > > > > > > > daily grind. I will summarize how the "Defend Arindam=
> > > > > > > > > > > > audiences love entertainment and an escape from their
> "
> > > > > > > > > > > > (working title) project was offered in less than five
> > > > > > > > > > > > minutes using only a few spoken lines instead of a lo=
> > > > > > > > > > > > (working title) project was offered in less than five
> t of
> > > > > > > > > > > > what would have appeared to the unscientific mind to =
> be
> > > > > > > > > > > > mere scientific mumbo-jumbo. This summary I will post=
> in
> > > > > > > > > > > > the "New Movie..." thread.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Great, great. =3D3D3DA0I will look forward to that eage=
> > > > > > > > > > > > the "New Movie..." thread.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> rly.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Nothing fantastic, just something about the conditions
> > > > > > > > > > and boundaries governing scientific experiments.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > Well, just uploaded my book! =3D3DA0Let us hope it comes ou=
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Nothing fantastic, just something about the conditions
> > > > > > > > > > and boundaries governing scientific experiments.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> t soon=3D
> > > =A0and mor=3D3D
> > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > importantly, sells well. =3D3DA0The best thing here, I will=
> be re=3D
> > > lying
> > > > > > > > > directly upon the public, not any quotawallah. =3D3DA0And I=
> gotta=3D
> > > =A0keep on=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0at
> > > > > > > > > it...
> >
> > > > > > > > Right on . . . or shall I say write on!
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > A series of instructional videos could be based on the book.
> >
> > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > This book is about metaphysics, not physics. =3DA0We have to get =
> >
> > > > > > > > Right on . . . or shall I say write on!
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > A series of instructional videos could be based on the book.
> >
> > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> our
> > > > > > metaphysics correct before we come to the physics. =3DA0Otherwise=
> the evil
> > > > > > and incorrigible abusive, parasitical quotawallahs will once agai=
> n
> > > > > > misuse the new physics with their constant abuse, the way they ha=
> ve
> > > > > > always, done.
> > > > > > Sound metaphysics leading to sound morality and proper spirituali=
> ty,
> > > > > > precedes physics and resulting technology. =3DA0For a moral popul=
> ation,
> > > > > > only, deserves the positive benefits of the surpassing mind.
> > > > > > Populations with low morality, may live in squalor, under the rul=
> > > > > > only, deserves the positive benefits of the surpassing mind.
Arindam Banerjee
May 7, 2012, 10:04:51 AM5/7/12
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On May 7, 4:48 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <2f073639-8493-4648-b173-df66d6bc4...@wp13g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Can't say mate, long since I left that line to join the CCS7 group and
if phones ring instead of engaged tones, everywhere, please spare a
moment for us ex- research guys who did the standardisation work back
in the mid nineties.
I worked on authentication protocols for sending files safely without
tampering and non-repudiation, after doing a study of security of pay
TV, and that after studying number theory thoroughly. I was pretty new
then, doing work for
my seniors.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <2f073639-8493-4648-b173-df66d6bc4...@wp13g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
if phones ring instead of engaged tones, everywhere, please spare a
moment for us ex- research guys who did the standardisation work back
in the mid nineties.
I worked on authentication protocols for sending files safely without
tampering and non-repudiation, after doing a study of security of pay
TV, and that after studying number theory thoroughly. I was pretty new
then, doing work for
my seniors.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Richard Tobin
May 7, 2012, 10:19:59 AM5/7/12
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In article <e225500d-610c-4cf6...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
-- Richard
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come to the physics.
But metaphysics means "after physics". Ask Aristotle.
>We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come to the physics.
-- Richard
pundit.har...@inderoha.com
May 7, 2012, 11:30:57 AM5/7/12
to
> Btw, jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is only stringing you along.
"Why do you think so? What undue benefit may he expect from me, for all
the attention he pays me?"
For the superficial appearance that a real indian accepts him for his self
"Why do you think so? What undue benefit may he expect from me, for all
the attention he pays me?"
invented web image. You of course soon spotted this in your original
discussions with him. That is when he turned on you like a mad dog.
> Watch that
> he doesn't turn on you like a mad dog once again.
"I have found there are far madder dogs around, than Jai was. Jai sounds
very much reformed, so far as I am concerned. Which is very good, again,
so far as I am concerned."
is the same mad dog fake indian. He is a white american bigot.
> Be careful not to
> mention that his entire web image is an invented fraud.
"Who can prove that?"
provide for his claims. He can not so he does not.
As you discovered, his claims about contacts and knowledge of indian
affairs proved to be empty air. He knew he was found out and his red face
turned into mad dog behavior of the worst kind.
=A0Not to mention he
> has little if any grasp of the most basic concepts of science.
"He says he has an IIT Delhi background. If correct, he should know his
science. Plus, he appreciates my new physics, which is very good, again so
far as I am concerned. Many people with PhDs in physics have found no
fundamental fault in my work, and Jai is only following their footsteps."
Yes, this is one of the claims he has been asked to present verification
"He says he has an IIT Delhi background. If correct, he should know his
science. Plus, he appreciates my new physics, which is very good, again so
far as I am concerned. Many people with PhDs in physics have found no
fundamental fault in my work, and Jai is only following their footsteps."
others can easily check. But one need not go to the trouble. His manifest
display of ignorance in science is easily spotted.
>The dog
> continues to wag its tail as long as you throw it a bone, but it can turn
> on you and your wife as it once did.
"Let us see. At the moment things are fine between us, and that is good
for me isn't it? I mean, I have had no luck with anyone else around, just
see what absolute shits the mean and horrid Jai's goon squad members are,
being always out to insult and demean me; so I have to make the most of
whatever positive I may get, from wherever."
joining them in his mad dog attacks once again.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 7, 2012, 2:24:51 PM5/7/12
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In article <jo8lmf$29b7$1...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
"Meta" is also be used to mean "about".
ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
Arindam Banerjee
May 7, 2012, 9:17:51 PM5/7/12
to
On May 8, 12:19 am, rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote:
> In article <e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
like all einsteinians.
metaphysics: branch of philosophy concerned with the ultimate nature
of reality - from dictionary.com (only one meaning given) and this is
the meaning I have partly used in my book. The other aspect, highly
related, is how new insights in physics may derive from such
metaphysics as evident from the book.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
> In article <e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> >We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come to the physics.
>
> But metaphysics means "after physics". Ask Aristotle.
>
> -- Richard
I have no use for Aristotle or anyone who thinks the earth is still,
>
> >We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come to the physics.
>
> But metaphysics means "after physics". Ask Aristotle.
>
> -- Richard
like all einsteinians.
metaphysics: branch of philosophy concerned with the ultimate nature
of reality - from dictionary.com (only one meaning given) and this is
the meaning I have partly used in my book. The other aspect, highly
related, is how new insights in physics may derive from such
metaphysics as evident from the book.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Arindam Banerjee
May 7, 2012, 9:19:28 PM5/7/12
to
On May 8, 1:30 am, pundit.hari.kumar...@inderoha.com wrote:
> > Btw, jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is only stringing you along.
>
> "Why do you think so? What undue benefit may he expect from me, for all
> the attention he pays me?"
>
> For the superficial appearance that a real indian accepts him for his self
> invented web image. You of course soon spotted this in your original
> discussions with him. That is when he turned on you like a mad dog.
>
> > Watch that
> > he doesn't turn on you like a mad dog once again.
>
> "I have found there are far madder dogs around, than Jai was. Jai sounds
> very much reformed, so far as I am concerned. Which is very good, again,
> so far as I am concerned."
>
> Perhaps in discussion with you. In the whole of his posting practices he
> is the same mad dog fake indian. He is a white american bigot.
Why do you think so? Is there any proof of this?
> > Btw, jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is only stringing you along.
>
> "Why do you think so? What undue benefit may he expect from me, for all
> the attention he pays me?"
>
> For the superficial appearance that a real indian accepts him for his self
> invented web image. You of course soon spotted this in your original
> discussions with him. That is when he turned on you like a mad dog.
>
> > Watch that
> > he doesn't turn on you like a mad dog once again.
>
> "I have found there are far madder dogs around, than Jai was. Jai sounds
> very much reformed, so far as I am concerned. Which is very good, again,
> so far as I am concerned."
>
> Perhaps in discussion with you. In the whole of his posting practices he
> is the same mad dog fake indian. He is a white american bigot.
Arindam Banerjee
May 7, 2012, 9:46:37 PM5/7/12
to
On May 8, 4:24 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <jo8lmf$29b...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
> rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Metaphysics means more like *beyond* physics, though the sense of
*about* is also there.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <jo8lmf$29b...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
> rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come to the physics.
>
> > But metaphysics means "after physics". Ask Aristotle.
>
> > -- Richard
>
> "Meta" is also be used to mean "about".
Yes, like metadata, or info about data.
>
> > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come to the physics.
>
> > But metaphysics means "after physics". Ask Aristotle.
>
> > -- Richard
>
> "Meta" is also be used to mean "about".
Metaphysics means more like *beyond* physics, though the sense of
*about* is also there.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 7, 2012, 10:03:47 PM5/7/12
to
In article <d1da3dce-5a1b-411d...@l4g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > -- Richard
> >
> > "Meta" is also used to mean "about".
write about it? Of course most folks violate this
unwritten rule of the old days. Thus, meta-USENET posts
were once discouraged.
> > In article <jo8lmf$29b...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
> > rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
> >
> >
> >
> > > In article
> > > =A0<e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
> >
> >
> >
> > > In article
> > > Arindam Banerjee =A0<adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come to the physics.
> >
> > > But metaphysics means "after physics". =A0Ask Aristotle.
> >
> > > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come to the physics.
> >
> >
> > > -- Richard
> >
> > "Meta" is also used to mean "about".
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> Yes, like metadata, or info about data.
> Metaphysics means more like *beyond* physics, though the sense of
> *about* is also there.
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
Do you know that the "first rule" of USENET is to not
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> Yes, like metadata, or info about data.
> Metaphysics means more like *beyond* physics, though the sense of
> *about* is also there.
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
write about it? Of course most folks violate this
unwritten rule of the old days. Thus, meta-USENET posts
were once discouraged.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 7, 2012, 11:30:03 PM5/7/12
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Forwarded post from S. F.
VEDIC STRING THEORY, by M. Anant Bhakta; 2006, BookSurge,
LLC; www.booksurge.com
VEDIC PHYSICS, Towards Unification of Quantum Mechanics &
General Relativity, by Keshav Dev Verma; Motilal
Banarsidass Publishers, Delhi, 1991, 2008.
MAYA in PHYSICS, by N.C. Panda; Motilal Banarsidass
Publishers, Delhi, 1991, 2005.
THE VIBRATING UNIVERSE, by N.C. Panda; Motilal
Banarsidass Publishers, Delhi, 1995, 2000.
Vedic Physics, Scientific Origin of Hinduism, by Raja Ram
Mohan Roy, Ph.D., foreword by Professor Subhash Kak;
Golden Egg Publishing, Toronto, 1999.
The Astronomical Code of the Rgveda, by Subhash Kak;
Munishiram Manoharlal Publishers Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi,
2000.
End of forwarded post from S. F.
VEDIC STRING THEORY, by M. Anant Bhakta; 2006, BookSurge,
LLC; www.booksurge.com
VEDIC PHYSICS, Towards Unification of Quantum Mechanics &
General Relativity, by Keshav Dev Verma; Motilal
Banarsidass Publishers, Delhi, 1991, 2008.
MAYA in PHYSICS, by N.C. Panda; Motilal Banarsidass
Publishers, Delhi, 1991, 2005.
THE VIBRATING UNIVERSE, by N.C. Panda; Motilal
Banarsidass Publishers, Delhi, 1995, 2000.
Vedic Physics, Scientific Origin of Hinduism, by Raja Ram
Mohan Roy, Ph.D., foreword by Professor Subhash Kak;
Golden Egg Publishing, Toronto, 1999.
The Astronomical Code of the Rgveda, by Subhash Kak;
Munishiram Manoharlal Publishers Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi,
2000.
End of forwarded post from S. F.
Arindam Banerjee
May 8, 2012, 3:30:08 AM5/8/12
to
On May 8, 12:03 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <d1da3dce-5a1b-411d-98c8-c9cf355f7...@l4g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
I often wonder how many people read usenet posts. They grandly say
that millions *may* read the posts, but how many actually do?
Arindam Banerjee
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <d1da3dce-5a1b-411d-98c8-c9cf355f7...@l4g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
that millions *may* read the posts, but how many actually do?
Arindam Banerjee
pundit.har...@inderome.com
May 8, 2012, 11:44:51 AM5/8/12
to
Jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. lists some books getting on the physics and
new age bandwagon. They are indian athors.
Sadly they are too late. Some 40 years ago at least two books using a
chinese taoist approach did it first.
"The tao of physics' and the 'dancing wo li masters' did it already.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 8, 2012, 4:14:04 PM5/8/12
to
In article <e3ab746e-ae0b-4bca...@k7g2000pbo.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> posted:
and social media appeared on the scene.
If there's a relationship between the number of posts and
the number of readers, and that's a big if, then knowing
the correct formula for it can be used to calculate the
readership today. Some information may be available here:
http://groups.google.com because Google purchased and
maintains the long-term USENET archives once maintained
by Deja.
soc.culture.indian received about 140-150 and
alt.politics about 800-900 posts per day last year.
Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <d1da3dce-5a1b-411d-98c8-c9cf355f7...@l4g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > In article <jo8lmf$29b...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
> > > > rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
> >
> > > > > In article
> > > > > =3DA0<e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <d1da3dce-5a1b-411d-98c8-c9cf355f7...@l4g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > In article <jo8lmf$29b...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
> > > > rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
> >
> > > > > In article
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee =3DA0<adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come to the physics.
> >
> > > > > But metaphysics means "after physics". =3DA0Ask Aristotle.
> >
> > > > > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come to the physics.
> >
> >
> > > > > -- Richard
> >
> > > > "Meta" is also used to mean "about".
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > Yes, like metadata, or info about data.
> > > Metaphysics means more like *beyond* physics, though the sense of
> > > *about* is also there.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > Do you know that the "first rule" of USENET is to not
> > write about it? Of course most folks violate this
> > unwritten rule of the old days. Thus, meta-USENET posts
> > were once discouraged.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> I often wonder how many people read usenet posts. They grandly say
> that millions *may* read the posts, but how many actually do?
> Arindam Banerjee
USENET readership was high many years ago before e-groups
> > > > > -- Richard
> >
> > > > "Meta" is also used to mean "about".
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > Yes, like metadata, or info about data.
> > > Metaphysics means more like *beyond* physics, though the sense of
> > > *about* is also there.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > Do you know that the "first rule" of USENET is to not
> > write about it? Of course most folks violate this
> > unwritten rule of the old days. Thus, meta-USENET posts
> > were once discouraged.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> I often wonder how many people read usenet posts. They grandly say
> that millions *may* read the posts, but how many actually do?
> Arindam Banerjee
and social media appeared on the scene.
If there's a relationship between the number of posts and
the number of readers, and that's a big if, then knowing
the correct formula for it can be used to calculate the
readership today. Some information may be available here:
http://groups.google.com because Google purchased and
maintains the long-term USENET archives once maintained
by Deja.
soc.culture.indian received about 140-150 and
alt.politics about 800-900 posts per day last year.
pundit.har...@inderoso.com
May 8, 2012, 4:25:00 PM5/8/12
to
"USENET readership was high many years ago before e-groups
and social media appeared on the scene."
And those alternative forms arose in part because of moderation for
and social media appeared on the scene."
content.
Crude bigotry and personal attacks as is common now is not allowed.
No sane person will put up with it when they can go elsewhere.
Usanet has been steadily losing readership. There is now a generation of
web users who know little or nothing about it, and could care less.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 8, 2012, 4:52:50 PM5/8/12
to
57614 subscribers, Messages per month: 7189
alt.philosophy
29510 subscribers, Messages per month: 4025
rec.arts.tv
90796 subscribers, Messages per month: 14600
rec.food.cooking
63417 subscribers, Messages per month: 8108
soc.retirement
28231 subscribers, Messages per month: 6732
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
100522 subscribers, Messages per month: 20790
alt.bestjobsusa.computer.jobs
742 subscribers, Messages per month: 29978
Source - http://groups.google.com
Someone will have to establish a relationship between the
number of readers and posters before readership can be
calculated. Intuitively I'd say that the ratio of readers
to posters has increased greatly during the last decade.
Arindam Banerjee
May 8, 2012, 11:22:55 PM5/8/12
to
On May 9, 6:14 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <e3ab746e-ae0b-4bca-be46-0d09e0c84...@k7g2000pbo.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
True. People care much more for local and closed group issues than
topics of universality, hence the success of facebook.
email groups are also there.
However anything written in any electronic format can be detected by
Big Brother and could be used against you in your employment.
So one has to be really careful before writing anything and even
reading or seeing anything in this age. But, things were similar
before, as well. Saying or even thinking the wrong things could lead
to execution - now, it is merely
loss of job, or not being able to get one.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <e3ab746e-ae0b-4bca-be46-0d09e0c84...@k7g2000pbo.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
topics of universality, hence the success of facebook.
email groups are also there.
However anything written in any electronic format can be detected by
Big Brother and could be used against you in your employment.
So one has to be really careful before writing anything and even
reading or seeing anything in this age. But, things were similar
before, as well. Saying or even thinking the wrong things could lead
to execution - now, it is merely
loss of job, or not being able to get one.
>
> If there's a relationship between the number of posts and
> the number of readers, and that's a big if, then knowing
> the correct formula for it can be used to calculate the
> readership today. Some information may be available here:http://groups.google.combecause Google purchased and
> If there's a relationship between the number of posts and
> the number of readers, and that's a big if, then knowing
> the correct formula for it can be used to calculate the
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 9, 2012, 12:19:45 AM5/9/12
to
In article <e549c316-2582-4758...@l4g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
the death of leaders in certain countries, for instance.
The same for predicting calamities such as earthquakes.
Modern communications, while limiting free speech also
make people more accountable for what they say. Can a
balance be struck?
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <e3ab746e-ae0b-4bca-be46-0d09e0c84...@k7g2000pbo.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > In article <d1da3dce-5a1b-411d-98c8-c9cf355f7...@l4g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > In article <jo8lmf$29b...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
> > > > > > rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
> >
> > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > =3D3DA0<e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <e3ab746e-ae0b-4bca-be46-0d09e0c84...@k7g2000pbo.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > In article <d1da3dce-5a1b-411d-98c8-c9cf355f7...@l4g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > In article <jo8lmf$29b...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
> > > > > > rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
> >
> > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee =3D3DA0<adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come to the physics.
> >
> > > > > > > But metaphysics means "after physics". =3D3DA0Ask Aristotle.
> >
> > > > > > > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come to the physics.
> >
> >
> > > > > > > -- Richard
> >
> > > > > > "Meta" is also used to mean "about".
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > Yes, like metadata, or info about data.
> > > > > Metaphysics means more like *beyond* physics, though the sense of
> > > > > *about* is also there.
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > Do you know that the "first rule" of USENET is to not
> > > > write about it? Of course most folks violate this
> > > > unwritten rule of the old days. Thus, meta-USENET posts
> > > > were once discouraged.
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > I often wonder how many people read usenet posts. =A0They grandly say
> > > > > > > -- Richard
> >
> > > > > > "Meta" is also used to mean "about".
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > Yes, like metadata, or info about data.
> > > > > Metaphysics means more like *beyond* physics, though the sense of
> > > > > *about* is also there.
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > Do you know that the "first rule" of USENET is to not
> > > > write about it? Of course most folks violate this
> > > > unwritten rule of the old days. Thus, meta-USENET posts
> > > > were once discouraged.
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > that millions *may* read the posts, but how many actually do?
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > USENET readership was high many years ago before e-groups
> > and social media appeared on the scene.
>
> True. People care much more for local and closed group issues than
> topics of universality, hence the success of facebook.
> email groups are also there.
> However anything written in any electronic format can be detected by
> Big Brother and could be used against you in your employment.
> So one has to be really careful before writing anything and even
> reading or seeing anything in this age. But, things were similar
> before, as well. Saying or even thinking the wrong things could lead
> to execution - now, it is merely
> loss of job, or not being able to get one.
They imprison and even execute astrologers for predicting
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > USENET readership was high many years ago before e-groups
> > and social media appeared on the scene.
>
> True. People care much more for local and closed group issues than
> topics of universality, hence the success of facebook.
> email groups are also there.
> However anything written in any electronic format can be detected by
> Big Brother and could be used against you in your employment.
> So one has to be really careful before writing anything and even
> reading or seeing anything in this age. But, things were similar
> before, as well. Saying or even thinking the wrong things could lead
> to execution - now, it is merely
> loss of job, or not being able to get one.
the death of leaders in certain countries, for instance.
The same for predicting calamities such as earthquakes.
Modern communications, while limiting free speech also
make people more accountable for what they say. Can a
balance be struck?
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
Arindam Banerjee
May 9, 2012, 12:31:01 AM5/9/12
to
On May 9, 2:19 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <e549c316-2582-4758-a911-b16831ad6...@l4g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
Why only astrologers...
> The same for predicting calamities such as earthquakes.
> Modern communications, while limiting free speech also
> make people more accountable for what they say.
Unfortunately, that does not work for no-name slanderers.
Can a
> balance be struck?
Well, there is fun, satisfaction and copyright on one hand; and
joblessness, slander and possible assassination on the other. The
goon squad (led by our esteemed and ridiculous Joshiji) has been
praying that my father and I suicide, fat chance!
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <e549c316-2582-4758-a911-b16831ad6...@l4g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
> The same for predicting calamities such as earthquakes.
> Modern communications, while limiting free speech also
> make people more accountable for what they say.
Can a
> balance be struck?
joblessness, slander and possible assassination on the other. The
goon squad (led by our esteemed and ridiculous Joshiji) has been
praying that my father and I suicide, fat chance!
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
>
>
> > > If there's a relationship between the number of posts and
> > > the number of readers, and that's a big if, then knowing
> > > the correct formula for it can be used to calculate the
> > > readership today. Some information may be available here:
> > >http://groups.google.combecauseGoogle purchased and
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
>
>
> > > If there's a relationship between the number of posts and
> > > the number of readers, and that's a big if, then knowing
> > > the correct formula for it can be used to calculate the
> > > readership today. Some information may be available here:
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 9, 2012, 1:18:13 AM5/9/12
to
In article <7b9ee837-d06b-4096...@to5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
> googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee =3D3D3DA0<adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come to =
> the physics.
> >
> > > > > > > > > But metaphysics means "after physics". =3D3D3DA0Ask Aristot=
> > > before, as well. =A0Saying or even thinking the wrong things could lead
news about astrologers in that regard.
> > The same for predicting calamities such as earthquakes.
> > Modern communications, while limiting free speech also
> > make people more accountable for what they say.
>
> Unfortunately, that does not work for no-name slanderers.
Law enforcement agencies can probably trace anyone.
> > Can a balance be struck?
> >
couple of posters from his neighborhood did post that he
has experienced psychiatric intervention. Whether he has
decided to call it quits only he and his doctor know. But
for the goon to wish suicide upon you and your father is
inexcusable.
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <e549c316-2582-4758-a911-b16831ad6...@l4g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > In article <e3ab746e-ae0b-4bca-be46-0d09e0c84...@k7g2000pbo.googlegro=
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <e549c316-2582-4758-a911-b16831ad6...@l4g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> ups.com>,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > In article <d1da3dce-5a1b-411d-98c8-c9cf355f7...@l4g2000pbv.googl=
> > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> egroups.com>,
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > In article <jo8lmf$29b...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
> > > > > > > > rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0<e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g2000pbc.=
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > In article <jo8lmf$29b...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
> > > > > > > > rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > In article
> googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee =3D3D3DA0<adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come to =
> the physics.
> >
> > > > > > > > > But metaphysics means "after physics". =3D3D3DA0Ask Aristot=
> le.
> >
> > > > > > > > > -- Richard
> >
> > > > > > > > "Meta" is also used to mean "about".
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > Yes, like metadata, or info about data.
> > > > > > > Metaphysics means more like *beyond* physics, though the sense =
> >
> > > > > > > > > -- Richard
> >
> > > > > > > > "Meta" is also used to mean "about".
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > Yes, like metadata, or info about data.
> of
> > > > > > > *about* is also there.
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > Do you know that the "first rule" of USENET is to not
> > > > > > write about it? Of course most folks violate this
> > > > > > unwritten rule of the old days. Thus, meta-USENET posts
> > > > > > were once discouraged.
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > I often wonder how many people read usenet posts. =3DA0They grandly=
> > > > > > > *about* is also there.
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > Do you know that the "first rule" of USENET is to not
> > > > > > write about it? Of course most folks violate this
> > > > > > unwritten rule of the old days. Thus, meta-USENET posts
> > > > > > were once discouraged.
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> say
> > > > > that millions *may* read the posts, but how many actually do?
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > USENET readership was high many years ago before e-groups
> > > > and social media appeared on the scene.
> >
> > > True. People care much more for local and closed group issues than
> > > topics of universality, hence the success of facebook.
> > > email groups are also there.
> > > However anything written in any electronic format can be detected by
> > > Big Brother and could be used against you in your employment.
> > > So one has to be really careful before writing anything and even
> > > reading or seeing anything in this age. =A0But, things were similar
> > > > > that millions *may* read the posts, but how many actually do?
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > USENET readership was high many years ago before e-groups
> > > > and social media appeared on the scene.
> >
> > > True. People care much more for local and closed group issues than
> > > topics of universality, hence the success of facebook.
> > > email groups are also there.
> > > However anything written in any electronic format can be detected by
> > > Big Brother and could be used against you in your employment.
> > > So one has to be really careful before writing anything and even
> > > before, as well. =A0Saying or even thinking the wrong things could lead
> > > to execution - now, it is merely
> > > loss of job, or not being able to get one.
> >
> > They imprison and even execute astrologers for predicting
> > the death of leaders in certain countries, for instance.
>
> Why only astrologers...
I am sure that there are others too but I monitor the
> > > loss of job, or not being able to get one.
> >
> > They imprison and even execute astrologers for predicting
> > the death of leaders in certain countries, for instance.
>
> Why only astrologers...
news about astrologers in that regard.
> > The same for predicting calamities such as earthquakes.
> > Modern communications, while limiting free speech also
> > make people more accountable for what they say.
>
> Unfortunately, that does not work for no-name slanderers.
> > Can a balance be struck?
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> > Om Shanti
>
> Well, there is fun, satisfaction and copyright on one hand; and
> joblessness, slander and possible assassination on the other. The
> goon squad (led by our esteemed and ridiculous Joshiji) has been
> praying that my father and I suicide, fat chance!
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
Suicide on Dayashankar M. Joshi's mind, hmm? You know, a
> joblessness, slander and possible assassination on the other. The
> goon squad (led by our esteemed and ridiculous Joshiji) has been
> praying that my father and I suicide, fat chance!
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
couple of posters from his neighborhood did post that he
has experienced psychiatric intervention. Whether he has
decided to call it quits only he and his doctor know. But
for the goon to wish suicide upon you and your father is
inexcusable.
Arindam Banerjee
May 9, 2012, 1:54:37 AM5/9/12
to
On May 9, 3:18 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <7b9ee837-d06b-4096-8904-4d1d167cf...@to5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
One cannot expect any benevolence from the goons. Only abuse and even
more foolery. They serve to amuse, after a fashion.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <7b9ee837-d06b-4096-8904-4d1d167cf...@to5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
more foolery. They serve to amuse, after a fashion.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
>
>
> > > > > If there's a relationship between the number of posts and
> > > > > the number of readers, and that's a big if, then knowing
> > > > > the correct formula for it can be used to calculate the
> > > > > readership today. Some information may be available here:
> > > > >http://groups.google.combecauseGooglepurchased and
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
>
>
> > > > > If there's a relationship between the number of posts and
> > > > > the number of readers, and that's a big if, then knowing
> > > > > the correct formula for it can be used to calculate the
> > > > > readership today. Some information may be available here:
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 9, 2012, 2:41:12 AM5/9/12
to
In article <e4e318ac-60e7-41e4...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
> egro=3D
> oogl=3D
> 00pbc.=3D
> > > googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee =3D3D3D3DA0<adda1...@bigpond.com> wrot=
> e:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come=
> to =3D
> > > the physics.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > But metaphysics means "after physics". =3D3D3D3DA0Ask A=
> ristot=3D
> nse =3D
> randly=3D
> > > =A0say
> ar
> > > > > before, as well. =3DA0Saying or even thinking the wrong things coul=
> > > goon squad (led by our esteemed and ridiculous Joshiji) =A0has been
Eventually one or more of them may provide plenty of
"amusement" to their cellmates in prison, though.
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <7b9ee837-d06b-4096-8904-4d1d167cf...@to5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > In article <e549c316-2582-4758-a911-b16831ad6...@l4g2000pbv.googlegro=
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <7b9ee837-d06b-4096-8904-4d1d167cf...@to5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> ups.com>,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > In article <e3ab746e-ae0b-4bca-be46-0d09e0c84...@k7g2000pbo.googl=
> > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> egro=3D
> > > ups.com>,
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > In article <d1da3dce-5a1b-411d-98c8-c9cf355f7...@l4g2000pbv.g=
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> oogl=3D
> > > egroups.com>,
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > In article <jo8lmf$29b...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
> > > > > > > > > > rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3DA0<e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@ri8g20=
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > In article <jo8lmf$29b...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
> > > > > > > > > > rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > In article
> 00pbc.=3D
> > > googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee =3D3D3D3DA0<adda1...@bigpond.com> wrot=
> e:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before we come=
> to =3D
> > > the physics.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > But metaphysics means "after physics". =3D3D3D3DA0Ask A=
> ristot=3D
> > > le.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > -- Richard
> >
> > > > > > > > > > "Meta" is also used to mean "about".
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, like metadata, or info about data.
> > > > > > > > > Metaphysics means more like *beyond* physics, though the se=
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > -- Richard
> >
> > > > > > > > > > "Meta" is also used to mean "about".
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, like metadata, or info about data.
> nse =3D
> > > of
> > > > > > > > > *about* is also there.
> > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > Do you know that the "first rule" of USENET is to not
> > > > > > > > write about it? Of course most folks violate this
> > > > > > > > unwritten rule of the old days. Thus, meta-USENET posts
> > > > > > > > were once discouraged.
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > I often wonder how many people read usenet posts. =3D3DA0They g=
> > > > > > > > > *about* is also there.
> > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > Do you know that the "first rule" of USENET is to not
> > > > > > > > write about it? Of course most folks violate this
> > > > > > > > unwritten rule of the old days. Thus, meta-USENET posts
> > > > > > > > were once discouraged.
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> randly=3D
> > > =A0say
> > > > > > > that millions *may* read the posts, but how many actually do?
> > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > USENET readership was high many years ago before e-groups
> > > > > > and social media appeared on the scene.
> >
> > > > > True. People care much more for local and closed group issues than
> > > > > topics of universality, hence the success of facebook.
> > > > > email groups are also there.
> > > > > However anything written in any electronic format can be detected b=
> > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > USENET readership was high many years ago before e-groups
> > > > > > and social media appeared on the scene.
> >
> > > > > True. People care much more for local and closed group issues than
> > > > > topics of universality, hence the success of facebook.
> > > > > email groups are also there.
> y
> > > > > Big Brother and could be used against you in your employment.
> > > > > So one has to be really careful before writing anything and even
> > > > > reading or seeing anything in this age. =3DA0But, things were simil=
> > > > > Big Brother and could be used against you in your employment.
> > > > > So one has to be really careful before writing anything and even
> ar
> > > > > before, as well. =3DA0Saying or even thinking the wrong things coul=
> d lead
> > > > > to execution - now, it is merely
> > > > > loss of job, or not being able to get one.
> >
> > > > They imprison and even execute astrologers for predicting
> > > > the death of leaders in certain countries, for instance.
> >
> > > Why only astrologers...
> >
> > I am sure that there are others too but I monitor the
> > news about astrologers in that regard.
> >
> > > > The same for predicting calamities such as earthquakes.
> > > > Modern communications, while limiting free speech also
> > > > make people more accountable for what they say.
> >
> > > Unfortunately, that does not work for no-name slanderers.
> >
> > Law enforcement agencies can probably trace anyone.
> >
> > > > Can a balance be struck?
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > Well, there is fun, satisfaction and copyright on one hand; and
> > > joblessness, slander and possible assassination on the other. =A0The
> > > > > to execution - now, it is merely
> > > > > loss of job, or not being able to get one.
> >
> > > > They imprison and even execute astrologers for predicting
> > > > the death of leaders in certain countries, for instance.
> >
> > > Why only astrologers...
> >
> > I am sure that there are others too but I monitor the
> > news about astrologers in that regard.
> >
> > > > The same for predicting calamities such as earthquakes.
> > > > Modern communications, while limiting free speech also
> > > > make people more accountable for what they say.
> >
> > > Unfortunately, that does not work for no-name slanderers.
> >
> > Law enforcement agencies can probably trace anyone.
> >
> > > > Can a balance be struck?
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > Well, there is fun, satisfaction and copyright on one hand; and
> > > goon squad (led by our esteemed and ridiculous Joshiji) =A0has been
> > > praying that my father and I suicide, fat chance!
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > Suicide on Dayashankar M. Joshi's mind, hmm? You know, a
> > couple of posters from his neighborhood did post that he
> > has experienced psychiatric intervention. Whether he has
> > decided to call it quits only he and his doctor know. But
> > for the goon to wish suicide upon you and your father is
> > inexcusable.
> >
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > Suicide on Dayashankar M. Joshi's mind, hmm? You know, a
> > couple of posters from his neighborhood did post that he
> > has experienced psychiatric intervention. Whether he has
> > decided to call it quits only he and his doctor know. But
> > for the goon to wish suicide upon you and your father is
> > inexcusable.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> > Om Shanti
>
> One cannot expect any benevolence from the goons. Only abuse and
> even more foolery. They serve to amuse, after a fashion.
It's not amusing now that they are issuing death threats.
> even more foolery. They serve to amuse, after a fashion.
Eventually one or more of them may provide plenty of
"amusement" to their cellmates in prison, though.
Arindam Banerjee
May 9, 2012, 2:52:13 AM5/9/12
to
On May 9, 4:41 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <e4e318ac-60e7-41e4-939c-a85bb1913...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
There is no law about incarceration of humanoids amounting to pains in
the wrong part of the body - they just have to be endured, in any free
society.
It is only when order totally collapses, as it did in say Cambodia,
that the goons get to kill whom they do not like - till they are
executed by other goons, or perish in
some other fashion. With Joshiji et al, there is only wishful thinking
about this matter, biliously expressed in stupid schoolboy language.
It would be dreadful
to think that he actually represents Gujaratis! Surely they could not
have fallen this low! Indifference is not an excuse.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <e4e318ac-60e7-41e4-939c-a85bb1913...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
the wrong part of the body - they just have to be endured, in any free
society.
It is only when order totally collapses, as it did in say Cambodia,
that the goons get to kill whom they do not like - till they are
executed by other goons, or perish in
some other fashion. With Joshiji et al, there is only wishful thinking
about this matter, biliously expressed in stupid schoolboy language.
It would be dreadful
to think that he actually represents Gujaratis! Surely they could not
have fallen this low! Indifference is not an excuse.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 9, 2012, 3:50:16 AM5/9/12
to
In article <eec83d1b-ef06-4d89...@q9g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
> egro=3D
> > > ups.com>,
> oogl=3D
> > > egro=3D3D
> bv.g=3D
> > > oogl=3D3D
> ri8g20=3D
> > > 00pbc.=3D3D
> > > > > googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee =3D3D3D3D3DA0<adda1...@bigpond.com=
> > wrot=3D
> > > e:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before we =
> come=3D
> > > =A0to =3D3D
> > > > > the physics.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > But metaphysics means "after physics". =3D3D3D3D3DA=
> 0Ask A=3D
> > > ristot=3D3D
> e se=3D
> > > nse =3D3D
> They g=3D
> > > randly=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0say
> > > > > > > > > that millions *may* read the posts, but how many actually d=
> ed b=3D
> n
> > > > > > > reading or seeing anything in this age. =3D3DA0But, things were=
> simil=3D
> > > ar
> > > > > > > before, as well. =3D3DA0Saying or even thinking the wrong thing=
> s coul=3D
> The
> > > > > goon squad (led by our esteemed and ridiculous Joshiji) =3DA0has be=
> > > even more foolery. =A0They serve to amuse, after a fashion.
> It is only when order totally collapses, as it did in say Cambodia,
> that the goons get to kill whom they do not like - till they are
> executed by other goons, or perish in some other fashion.
Perhaps cyberworld will turn out to be the new Cambodia.
> With Joshiji et al, there is only wishful thinking
> about this matter, biliously expressed in stupid schoolboy language.
A weaker defense of the goon cannot be made.
> It would be dreadful
> to think that he actually represents Gujaratis! Surely they could not
> have fallen this low! Indifference is not an excuse.
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
You are correct about that. I know Gujaratis, very nice
Gujaratis in fact. They would never make death threats.
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <e4e318ac-60e7-41e4-939c-a85bb1913...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > In article <7b9ee837-d06b-4096-8904-4d1d167cf...@to5g2000pbc.googlegr=
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <e4e318ac-60e7-41e4-939c-a85bb1913...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> oups.com>,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > In article <e549c316-2582-4758-a911-b16831ad6...@l4g2000pbv.googl=
> > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> egro=3D
> > > ups.com>,
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > In article <e3ab746e-ae0b-4bca-be46-0d09e0c84...@k7g2000pbo.g=
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> oogl=3D
> > > egro=3D3D
> > > > > ups.com>,
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > In article <d1da3dce-5a1b-411d-98c8-c9cf355f7...@l4g2000p=
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> bv.g=3D
> > > oogl=3D3D
> > > > > egroups.com>,
> > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > In article <jo8lmf$29b...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3D3DA0<e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e79525...@=
> > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > In article <jo8lmf$29b...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In article
> ri8g20=3D
> > > 00pbc.=3D3D
> > > > > googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee =3D3D3D3D3DA0<adda1...@bigpond.com=
> > wrot=3D
> > > e:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before we =
> come=3D
> > > =A0to =3D3D
> > > > > the physics.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > But metaphysics means "after physics". =3D3D3D3D3DA=
> 0Ask A=3D
> > > ristot=3D3D
> > > > > le.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Richard
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Meta" is also used to mean "about".
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, like metadata, or info about data.
> > > > > > > > > > > Metaphysics means more like *beyond* physics, though th=
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Richard
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Meta" is also used to mean "about".
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, like metadata, or info about data.
> e se=3D
> > > nse =3D3D
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > *about* is also there.
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Do you know that the "first rule" of USENET is to not
> > > > > > > > > > write about it? Of course most folks violate this
> > > > > > > > > > unwritten rule of the old days. Thus, meta-USENET posts
> > > > > > > > > > were once discouraged.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > I often wonder how many people read usenet posts. =3D3D3DA0=
> > > > > > > > > > > *about* is also there.
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Do you know that the "first rule" of USENET is to not
> > > > > > > > > > write about it? Of course most folks violate this
> > > > > > > > > > unwritten rule of the old days. Thus, meta-USENET posts
> > > > > > > > > > were once discouraged.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> They g=3D
> > > randly=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0say
> > > > > > > > > that millions *may* read the posts, but how many actually d=
> o?
> > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > USENET readership was high many years ago before e-groups
> > > > > > > > and social media appeared on the scene.
> >
> > > > > > > True. People care much more for local and closed group issues t=
> > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > USENET readership was high many years ago before e-groups
> > > > > > > > and social media appeared on the scene.
> >
> han
> > > > > > > topics of universality, hence the success of facebook.
> > > > > > > email groups are also there.
> > > > > > > However anything written in any electronic format can be detect=
> > > > > > > topics of universality, hence the success of facebook.
> > > > > > > email groups are also there.
> ed b=3D
> > > y
> > > > > > > Big Brother and could be used against you in your employment.
> > > > > > > So one has to be really careful before writing anything and eve=
> > > > > > > Big Brother and could be used against you in your employment.
> n
> > > > > > > reading or seeing anything in this age. =3D3DA0But, things were=
> simil=3D
> > > ar
> > > > > > > before, as well. =3D3DA0Saying or even thinking the wrong thing=
> s coul=3D
> > > d lead
> > > > > > > to execution - now, it is merely
> > > > > > > loss of job, or not being able to get one.
> >
> > > > > > They imprison and even execute astrologers for predicting
> > > > > > the death of leaders in certain countries, for instance.
> >
> > > > > Why only astrologers...
> >
> > > > I am sure that there are others too but I monitor the
> > > > news about astrologers in that regard.
> >
> > > > > > The same for predicting calamities such as earthquakes.
> > > > > > Modern communications, while limiting free speech also
> > > > > > make people more accountable for what they say.
> >
> > > > > Unfortunately, that does not work for no-name slanderers.
> >
> > > > Law enforcement agencies can probably trace anyone.
> >
> > > > > > Can a balance be struck?
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > Well, there is fun, satisfaction and copyright on one hand; and
> > > > > joblessness, slander and possible assassination on the other. =3DA0=
> > > > > > > to execution - now, it is merely
> > > > > > > loss of job, or not being able to get one.
> >
> > > > > > They imprison and even execute astrologers for predicting
> > > > > > the death of leaders in certain countries, for instance.
> >
> > > > > Why only astrologers...
> >
> > > > I am sure that there are others too but I monitor the
> > > > news about astrologers in that regard.
> >
> > > > > > The same for predicting calamities such as earthquakes.
> > > > > > Modern communications, while limiting free speech also
> > > > > > make people more accountable for what they say.
> >
> > > > > Unfortunately, that does not work for no-name slanderers.
> >
> > > > Law enforcement agencies can probably trace anyone.
> >
> > > > > > Can a balance be struck?
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > Well, there is fun, satisfaction and copyright on one hand; and
> The
> > > > > goon squad (led by our esteemed and ridiculous Joshiji) =3DA0has be=
> en
> > > > > praying that my father and I suicide, fat chance!
> >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > Suicide on Dayashankar M. Joshi's mind, hmm? You know, a
> > > > couple of posters from his neighborhood did post that he
> > > > has experienced psychiatric intervention. Whether he has
> > > > decided to call it quits only he and his doctor know. But
> > > > for the goon to wish suicide upon you and your father is
> > > > inexcusable.
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > One cannot expect any benevolence from the goons. =A0Only abuse and
> > > > > praying that my father and I suicide, fat chance!
> >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > Suicide on Dayashankar M. Joshi's mind, hmm? You know, a
> > > > couple of posters from his neighborhood did post that he
> > > > has experienced psychiatric intervention. Whether he has
> > > > decided to call it quits only he and his doctor know. But
> > > > for the goon to wish suicide upon you and your father is
> > > > inexcusable.
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > even more foolery. =A0They serve to amuse, after a fashion.
> >
> > It's not amusing now that they are issuing death threats.
> > Eventually one or more of them may provide plenty of
> > "amusement" to their cellmates in prison, though.
> >
> > It's not amusing now that they are issuing death threats.
> > Eventually one or more of them may provide plenty of
> > "amusement" to their cellmates in prison, though.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> > Om Shanti
>
> There is no law about incarceration of humanoids amounting to pains in
> the wrong part of the body - they just have to be endured, in any free
> society.
There are laws about death threats and bullying, however.
> the wrong part of the body - they just have to be endured, in any free
> society.
> It is only when order totally collapses, as it did in say Cambodia,
> that the goons get to kill whom they do not like - till they are
> executed by other goons, or perish in some other fashion.
> With Joshiji et al, there is only wishful thinking
> about this matter, biliously expressed in stupid schoolboy language.
> It would be dreadful
> to think that he actually represents Gujaratis! Surely they could not
> have fallen this low! Indifference is not an excuse.
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
Gujaratis in fact. They would never make death threats.
Arindam Banerjee
May 9, 2012, 4:31:23 AM5/9/12
to
On May 9, 5:50 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <eec83d1b-ef06-4d89-b356-73651364e...@q9g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
You have to identify those who make them. In cyberspace they can
hide. But yes, some people have committed suicide as a result of cyber
bullying and no doubt that encourages the goon squad in their bullying
actions. I am not
sure about the laws related to cyber bullying in Australia, but yes,
it is a major issue especially for young impressionable people.
certified medical grounds?
people. It is a pity that they do not exert themselves to admonish
Joshiji.
>They would never make death threats.
Except when the more enthusiastic among them are just about to
actually kill, as in recent sectarian riots there. "never" is too
strong a word to use in the murderous context.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <eec83d1b-ef06-4d89-b356-73651364e...@q9g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
hide. But yes, some people have committed suicide as a result of cyber
bullying and no doubt that encourages the goon squad in their bullying
actions. I am not
sure about the laws related to cyber bullying in Australia, but yes,
it is a major issue especially for young impressionable people.
>
> > It is only when order totally collapses, as it did in say Cambodia,
> > that the goons get to kill whom they do not like - till they are
> > executed by other goons, or perish in some other fashion.
>
> Perhaps cyberworld will turn out to be the new Cambodia.
>
> > With Joshiji et al, there is only wishful thinking
> > about this matter, biliously expressed in stupid schoolboy language.
>
> A weaker defense of the goon cannot be made.
Maybe a better defense for Joshiji is diminished responsibility on
> > It is only when order totally collapses, as it did in say Cambodia,
> > that the goons get to kill whom they do not like - till they are
> > executed by other goons, or perish in some other fashion.
>
> Perhaps cyberworld will turn out to be the new Cambodia.
>
> > With Joshiji et al, there is only wishful thinking
> > about this matter, biliously expressed in stupid schoolboy language.
>
> A weaker defense of the goon cannot be made.
certified medical grounds?
>
> > It would be dreadful
> > to think that he actually represents Gujaratis! Surely they could not
> > have fallen this low! Indifference is not an excuse.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
>
> You are correct about that. I know Gujaratis, very nice
> Gujaratis in fact.
Certainly all Gujaratis I know in real life are like most normal
> > It would be dreadful
> > to think that he actually represents Gujaratis! Surely they could not
> > have fallen this low! Indifference is not an excuse.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
>
> You are correct about that. I know Gujaratis, very nice
> Gujaratis in fact.
people. It is a pity that they do not exert themselves to admonish
Joshiji.
>They would never make death threats.
actually kill, as in recent sectarian riots there. "never" is too
strong a word to use in the murderous context.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
DMJoshi
May 9, 2012, 4:56:00 AM5/9/12
to
On May 9, 9:31 am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Certainly all Gujaratis I know in real life are like most normal
> people.
You and monkey have let it known why you called monkey a monkey, jBm
> Certainly all Gujaratis I know in real life are like most normal
> people.
and why monkey started to call you a fraud etc.
But what was of those most normal Gujarati you knew in real life that
they became "snake rapers" and "Guj-jews" ?
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 9, 2012, 5:01:27 AM5/9/12
to
In article <e64632ca-3104-44b2...@w9g2000pbm.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
> legr=3D
> oogl=3D
> > > egro=3D3D
> > > > > ups.com>,
> bo.g=3D
> > > oogl=3D3D
> > > > > egro=3D3D3D
> 000p=3D
> > > bv.g=3D3D
> > > > > oogl=3D3D3D
> 25...@=3D
> > > ri8g20=3D3D
> > > > > 00pbc.=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee =3D3D3D3D3D3DA0<adda1...@bigpo=
> nd.com=3D
> > > > wrot=3D3D
> > > > > e:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before=
> we =3D
> > > come=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0to =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > the physics.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But metaphysics means "after physics". =3D3D3D3=
> D3D3DA=3D
> > > 0Ask A=3D3D
> > > > > ristot=3D3D3D
> h th=3D
> > > e se=3D3D
> > > > > nse =3D3D3D
> 3D3DA0=3D
> > > They g=3D3D
> > > > > randly=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > =3D3DA0say
> > > > > > > > > > > that millions *may* read the posts, but how many actual=
> ly d=3D
> es t=3D
> tect=3D
> > > ed b=3D3D
> > > > > y
> > > > > > > > > Big Brother and could be used against you in your employmen=
> t.
> > > > > > > > > So one has to be really careful before writing anything and=
> eve=3D
> > > n
> > > > > > > > > reading or seeing anything in this age. =3D3D3DA0But, thing=
> s were=3D
> > > =A0simil=3D3D
> > > > > ar
> > > > > > > > > before, as well. =3D3D3DA0Saying or even thinking the wrong=
> thing=3D
> > > s coul=3D3D
> > > The
> > > > > > > goon squad (led by our esteemed and ridiculous Joshiji) =3D3DA0=
> has be=3D
> nd
> > > > > even more foolery. =3DA0They serve to amuse, after a fashion.
incarceration. What stands out here though is the kind
nature of the victim defending the perpetrator. Or is it
the Melbourne version of the Stockholm Syndrome?
> > > It would be dreadful
> > > to think that he actually represents Gujaratis! =A0Surely they could not
> > > have fallen this low! =A0Indifference is not an excuse.
> > They would never make death threats.
> >
group are burned to death in a train. Yes, never say
never.
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <eec83d1b-ef06-4d89-b356-73651364e...@q9g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > In article <e4e318ac-60e7-41e4-939c-a85bb1913...@ri8g2000pbc.googlegr=
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <eec83d1b-ef06-4d89-b356-73651364e...@q9g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> oups.com>,
> > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > In article <7b9ee837-d06b-4096-8904-4d1d167cf...@to5g2000pbc.goog=
> > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> legr=3D
> > > oups.com>,
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > In article <e549c316-2582-4758-a911-b16831ad6...@l4g2000pbv.g=
> > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> oogl=3D
> > > egro=3D3D
> > > > > ups.com>,
> > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > In article <e3ab746e-ae0b-4bca-be46-0d09e0c84...@k7g2000p=
> >
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> bo.g=3D
> > > oogl=3D3D
> > > > > egro=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ups.com>,
> > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > In article <d1da3dce-5a1b-411d-98c8-c9cf355f7...@l4g2=
> > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> 000p=3D
> > > bv.g=3D3D
> > > > > oogl=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > egroups.com>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article <jo8lmf$29b...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3D3D3DA0<e225500d-610c-4cf6-95c3-416e795=
> > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article <jo8lmf$29b...@matchbox.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) posted:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article
> 25...@=3D
> > > ri8g20=3D3D
> > > > > 00pbc.=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee =3D3D3D3D3D3DA0<adda1...@bigpo=
> nd.com=3D
> > > > wrot=3D3D
> > > > > e:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have to get our metaphysics correct before=
> we =3D
> > > come=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0to =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > the physics.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But metaphysics means "after physics". =3D3D3D3=
> D3D3DA=3D
> > > 0Ask A=3D3D
> > > > > ristot=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > le.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Richard
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Meta" is also used to mean "about".
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, like metadata, or info about data.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Metaphysics means more like *beyond* physics, thoug=
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Richard
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Meta" is also used to mean "about".
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, like metadata, or info about data.
> h th=3D
> > > e se=3D3D
> > > > > nse =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > *about* is also there.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Do you know that the "first rule" of USENET is to not
> > > > > > > > > > > > write about it? Of course most folks violate this
> > > > > > > > > > > > unwritten rule of the old days. Thus, meta-USENET pos=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > *about* is also there.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Do you know that the "first rule" of USENET is to not
> > > > > > > > > > > > write about it? Of course most folks violate this
> ts
> > > > > > > > > > > > were once discouraged.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > I often wonder how many people read usenet posts. =3D3D=
> > > > > > > > > > > > were once discouraged.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> 3D3DA0=3D
> > > They g=3D3D
> > > > > randly=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > =3D3DA0say
> > > > > > > > > > > that millions *may* read the posts, but how many actual=
> ly d=3D
> > > o?
> > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > > > USENET readership was high many years ago before e-groups
> > > > > > > > > > and social media appeared on the scene.
> >
> > > > > > > > > True. People care much more for local and closed group issu=
> > > > > > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > > > > > USENET readership was high many years ago before e-groups
> > > > > > > > > > and social media appeared on the scene.
> >
> es t=3D
> > > han
> > > > > > > > > topics of universality, hence the success of facebook.
> > > > > > > > > email groups are also there.
> > > > > > > > > However anything written in any electronic format can be de=
> > > > > > > > > topics of universality, hence the success of facebook.
> > > > > > > > > email groups are also there.
> tect=3D
> > > ed b=3D3D
> > > > > y
> > > > > > > > > Big Brother and could be used against you in your employmen=
> t.
> > > > > > > > > So one has to be really careful before writing anything and=
> eve=3D
> > > n
> > > > > > > > > reading or seeing anything in this age. =3D3D3DA0But, thing=
> s were=3D
> > > =A0simil=3D3D
> > > > > ar
> > > > > > > > > before, as well. =3D3D3DA0Saying or even thinking the wrong=
> thing=3D
> > > s coul=3D3D
> > > > > d lead
> > > > > > > > > to execution - now, it is merely
> > > > > > > > > loss of job, or not being able to get one.
> >
> > > > > > > > They imprison and even execute astrologers for predicting
> > > > > > > > the death of leaders in certain countries, for instance.
> >
> > > > > > > Why only astrologers...
> >
> > > > > > I am sure that there are others too but I monitor the
> > > > > > news about astrologers in that regard.
> >
> > > > > > > > The same for predicting calamities such as earthquakes.
> > > > > > > > Modern communications, while limiting free speech also
> > > > > > > > make people more accountable for what they say.
> >
> > > > > > > Unfortunately, that does not work for no-name slanderers.
> >
> > > > > > Law enforcement agencies can probably trace anyone.
> >
> > > > > > > > Can a balance be struck?
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > Well, there is fun, satisfaction and copyright on one hand; and
> > > > > > > joblessness, slander and possible assassination on the other. =
> =3D3DA0=3D
> > > > > > > > > to execution - now, it is merely
> > > > > > > > > loss of job, or not being able to get one.
> >
> > > > > > > > They imprison and even execute astrologers for predicting
> > > > > > > > the death of leaders in certain countries, for instance.
> >
> > > > > > > Why only astrologers...
> >
> > > > > > I am sure that there are others too but I monitor the
> > > > > > news about astrologers in that regard.
> >
> > > > > > > > The same for predicting calamities such as earthquakes.
> > > > > > > > Modern communications, while limiting free speech also
> > > > > > > > make people more accountable for what they say.
> >
> > > > > > > Unfortunately, that does not work for no-name slanderers.
> >
> > > > > > Law enforcement agencies can probably trace anyone.
> >
> > > > > > > > Can a balance be struck?
> >
> > > > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > > > Well, there is fun, satisfaction and copyright on one hand; and
> > > > > > > joblessness, slander and possible assassination on the other. =
> > > The
> > > > > > > goon squad (led by our esteemed and ridiculous Joshiji) =3D3DA0=
> has be=3D
> > > en
> > > > > > > praying that my father and I suicide, fat chance!
> >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > Suicide on Dayashankar M. Joshi's mind, hmm? You know, a
> > > > > > couple of posters from his neighborhood did post that he
> > > > > > has experienced psychiatric intervention. Whether he has
> > > > > > decided to call it quits only he and his doctor know. But
> > > > > > for the goon to wish suicide upon you and your father is
> > > > > > inexcusable.
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > > > One cannot expect any benevolence from the goons. =3DA0Only abuse a=
> > > > > > > praying that my father and I suicide, fat chance!
> >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > > > > Suicide on Dayashankar M. Joshi's mind, hmm? You know, a
> > > > > > couple of posters from his neighborhood did post that he
> > > > > > has experienced psychiatric intervention. Whether he has
> > > > > > decided to call it quits only he and his doctor know. But
> > > > > > for the goon to wish suicide upon you and your father is
> > > > > > inexcusable.
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> >
> nd
> > > > > even more foolery. =3DA0They serve to amuse, after a fashion.
> >
> > > > It's not amusing now that they are issuing death threats.
> > > > Eventually one or more of them may provide plenty of
> > > > "amusement" to their cellmates in prison, though.
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > There is no law about incarceration of humanoids amounting to pains in
> > > the wrong part of the body - they just have to be endured, in any free
> > > society.
> >
> > There are laws about death threats and bullying, however.
>
> You have to identify those who make them. In cyberspace they can
> hide. But yes, some people have committed suicide as a result of cyber
> bullying and no doubt that encourages the goon squad in their bullying
> actions. I am not
> sure about the laws related to cyber bullying in Australia, but yes,
> it is a major issue especially for young impressionable people.
> >
> > > It is only when order totally collapses, as it did in say Cambodia,
> > > that the goons get to kill whom they do not like - till they are
> > > executed by other goons, or perish in some other fashion.
> >
> > Perhaps cyberworld will turn out to be the new Cambodia.
> >
> > > With Joshiji et al, there is only wishful thinking
> > > about this matter, biliously expressed in stupid schoolboy language.
> >
> > A weaker defense of the goon cannot be made.
>
> Maybe a better defense for Joshiji is diminished responsibility on
> certified medical grounds?
If that, then treatment. Yes, infinitely better than
> > > > It's not amusing now that they are issuing death threats.
> > > > Eventually one or more of them may provide plenty of
> > > > "amusement" to their cellmates in prison, though.
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > There is no law about incarceration of humanoids amounting to pains in
> > > the wrong part of the body - they just have to be endured, in any free
> > > society.
> >
> > There are laws about death threats and bullying, however.
>
> You have to identify those who make them. In cyberspace they can
> hide. But yes, some people have committed suicide as a result of cyber
> bullying and no doubt that encourages the goon squad in their bullying
> actions. I am not
> sure about the laws related to cyber bullying in Australia, but yes,
> it is a major issue especially for young impressionable people.
> >
> > > It is only when order totally collapses, as it did in say Cambodia,
> > > that the goons get to kill whom they do not like - till they are
> > > executed by other goons, or perish in some other fashion.
> >
> > Perhaps cyberworld will turn out to be the new Cambodia.
> >
> > > With Joshiji et al, there is only wishful thinking
> > > about this matter, biliously expressed in stupid schoolboy language.
> >
> > A weaker defense of the goon cannot be made.
>
> Maybe a better defense for Joshiji is diminished responsibility on
> certified medical grounds?
incarceration. What stands out here though is the kind
nature of the victim defending the perpetrator. Or is it
the Melbourne version of the Stockholm Syndrome?
> > > It would be dreadful
> > > to think that he actually represents Gujaratis! =A0Surely they could not
> > > have fallen this low! =A0Indifference is not an excuse.
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > You are correct about that. I know Gujaratis, very nice
> > Gujaratis in fact.
>
> Certainly all Gujaratis I know in real life are like most normal
> people. It is a pity that they do not exert themselves to admonish
> Joshiji.
A Gujarati prosecutor may well exist in the UK.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > You are correct about that. I know Gujaratis, very nice
> > Gujaratis in fact.
>
> Certainly all Gujaratis I know in real life are like most normal
> people. It is a pity that they do not exert themselves to admonish
> Joshiji.
> > They would never make death threats.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> > Om Shanti
>
> Except when the more enthusiastic among them are just about to
> actually kill, as in recent sectarian riots there. "never" is too
> strong a word to use in the murderous context.
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
Sadly, people take extreme measures when members of their
> actually kill, as in recent sectarian riots there. "never" is too
> strong a word to use in the murderous context.
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
group are burned to death in a train. Yes, never say
never.
Arindam Banerjee
May 9, 2012, 5:06:53 AM5/9/12
to
On May 9, 7:01 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <e64632ca-3104-44b2-89b0-30e598430...@w9g2000pbm.googlegroups.com>,
Resignation, more like.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <e64632ca-3104-44b2-89b0-30e598430...@w9g2000pbm.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee
May 9, 2012, 5:15:12 AM5/9/12
to
On May 9, 6:56 pm, DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 9, 9:31 am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > Certainly all Gujaratis I know in real life are like most normal
> > people.
>
> You and monkey have let it known why you called monkey a monkey, jBm
> and why monkey started to call you a fraud etc.
We have had our disputes, yes, but now we have made up. But has your
> On May 9, 9:31 am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > Certainly all Gujaratis I know in real life are like most normal
> > people.
>
> You and monkey have let it known why you called monkey a monkey, jBm
> and why monkey started to call you a fraud etc.
basic mean, malevolent and twisted nature changed, Joshiji?
>
> But what was of those most normal Gujarati you knew in real life that
> they became "snake rapers"
Pity you have no sense of humour, Joshiji. A lot of stupidity
> But what was of those most normal Gujarati you knew in real life that
> they became "snake rapers"
instead.
> and "Guj-jews" ?
That was irresistible, after all the meannes and malevolence you and
your bootlickers showed me, not to speak of the "reception" I got from
an IAS officer
from Gujarat, Joshiji. Not that I have anything against most
Gujaratis and Jews - but I cannot love a abusive goo.jew.ratty like
you and all the abominable jews of usenet, who have always
been out to crucify me for my anti-einsteinism but so far have not
been able to succeed in that matter. Angels do guard me, see.
Cheers,
Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all
time, sole god among lotsa devils.
DMJoshi
May 9, 2012, 5:18:23 AM5/9/12
to
On May 9, 10:01 am, Dr. Jai Monkey Maharaj) wrote:
> A Gujarati prosecutor may well exist in the UK.
Monkey not ready to put money where its mouth is.
> A Gujarati prosecutor may well exist in the UK.
Wants adridum to spend instead of extending after monkey to Hawaii, to
give an audition to play "Hero Band", to the director that monkey has
hired to make the movie, announced last January.
DMJoshi
May 9, 2012, 5:36:29 AM5/9/12
to
happy.
Arindam Banerjee
May 9, 2012, 7:16:49 AM5/9/12
to
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
May 9, 2012, 9:11:42 AM5/9/12
to
On 5/8/2012 10:54 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On May 9, 3:18 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>
>> Suicide on Dayashankar M. Joshi's mind, hmm? You know, a
>> couple of posters from his neighborhood did post that he
>> has experienced psychiatric intervention. Whether he has
>> decided to call it quits only he and his doctor know. But
>> for the goon to wish suicide upon you and your father is
>> inexcusable.
(Snake)oily bitch that she is, Lady Kaka seeing an "out" for herself
> On May 9, 3:18 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>
>> Suicide on Dayashankar M. Joshi's mind, hmm? You know, a
>> couple of posters from his neighborhood did post that he
>> has experienced psychiatric intervention. Whether he has
>> decided to call it quits only he and his doctor know. But
>> for the goon to wish suicide upon you and your father is
>> inexcusable.
quietly sets Bangdu against Joshiji with spritzing a little oil on the
fire. Here is a bitch that wishes death upon Muslims, Catholics, me,
Joshiji, ... and then goes all "holy." Gawd! What a pile of garbage
masquerading as a human. Lady Kaka should stick to piglet hunting in Hawaii.
>
> One cannot expect any benevolence from the goons. Only abuse and even
> more foolery. They serve to amuse, after a fashion.
VB, Ubetjotushy
'ome=shanty
-----
The Baboon Squad
Dr. Muckeraj, aka Lady Kaka, aka Kakadevi, aka The Old Cow of Hawaii,
and her faithful monkey, Fanabba, aka Poochie, are rabid evangelical
Christians. The Baboon Squad, as Kakadevi and Pooch call themselves,
hates Hindus, Muslims, and Catholics, and the US too, which makes them
copy-paste trash 24/7. The transgender idiot, Kakadevi, claims to be a
"scholar" of Sanskrit, but hasn't demonstrated any knowledge or mastery
of it. However, there is plenty of evidence of attempts made by
Macaulay's monkey to "doctor" original articles to pidginize Sanskrit
words, perhaps to send Sanskrit into the gutter. The "doctorate" that
Kakadevi claims to have is likely for copy-paste research on the myriad
applications of cowdung. Other than some stock phrases that are
copy-pasted regularly, the Cosmic Baboon has shown no originality or
creativity, nor has the monkey contributed anything of value to any
discussion. Macaulay's other monkey, who, apart from saying "ditto" to
Kaka's caca, has no other skills than spraying fire hydrants with raised
hindquarters.
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
May 9, 2012, 9:15:40 AM5/9/12
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On 5/9/2012 1:31 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On May 9, 5:50 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>
>>> There is no law about incarceration of humanoids amounting to pains in
>>> the wrong part of the body - they just have to be endured, in any free
>>> society.
>>
>> There are laws about death threats and bullying, however.
>
And there are laws about hate speech too. This piece of garbage, Lady
> On May 9, 5:50 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>
>>> There is no law about incarceration of humanoids amounting to pains in
>>> the wrong part of the body - they just have to be endured, in any free
>>> society.
>>
>> There are laws about death threats and bullying, however.
>
Kaka, spews forth hate speech 24/7 against Muslims and Catholics.
Claiming to be a "real Hindu" wishes death to several people. There
cannot be a bigger fraud and hypocrite than Lady Kaka.
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
May 9, 2012, 9:27:52 AM5/9/12
to
On 5/9/2012 2:15 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On May 9, 6:56 pm, DMJoshi<josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 9, 9:31 am, Arindam Banerjee<adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Certainly all Gujaratis I know in real life are like most normal
>>> people.
>>
>> You and monkey have let it known why you called monkey a monkey, jBm
>> and why monkey started to call you a fraud etc.
>
> We have had our disputes, yes, but now we have made up. But has your
> basic mean, malevolent and twisted nature changed, Joshiji?
Bangdu, you smelled M.O.N.E.Y., what with the offer of a "movie" and a
> On May 9, 6:56 pm, DMJoshi<josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 9, 9:31 am, Arindam Banerjee<adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Certainly all Gujaratis I know in real life are like most normal
>>> people.
>>
>> You and monkey have let it known why you called monkey a monkey, jBm
>> and why monkey started to call you a fraud etc.
>
> We have had our disputes, yes, but now we have made up. But has your
> basic mean, malevolent and twisted nature changed, Joshiji?
little publicity. Rank opportunist that you are, you decided to leave
your balls behind, and your goddamn spine too. Heh! This after claiming
to have had your livelihood robbed from you by this malevolent creepy
critter, Lady Kaka.
>>
>> But what was of those most normal Gujarati you knew in real life that
>> they became "snake rapers"
>
> Pity you have no sense of humour, Joshiji. A lot of stupidity
> instead.
>
spew without as much as a second thought and readers are supposed to lap
up this icky "inglis-medium" (albeit from provincial backwaters of
India) snobbery. Hell, no! Third-rate kotwal ka beta, you'll get your
middle-class comeuppance.
>> and "Guj-jews" ?
>
> That was irresistible, after all the meannes and malevolence you and
> your bootlickers showed me, not to speak of the "reception" I got from
> an IAS officer
> from Gujarat, Joshiji. Not that I have anything against most
> Gujaratis and Jews - but I cannot love a abusive goo.jew.ratty like
> you and all the abominable jews of usenet, who have always
> been out to crucify me for my anti-einsteinism but so far have not
> been able to succeed in that matter. Angels do guard me, see.
>
"crucify" you, at least I don't. There is nothing "prophetic" about your
kooky physics. However, I do want to respect the field that you claim to
love. Science is about objective inquiry and stop reducing it to
personality cults - a "cult following" is what _you_ desperately want.
How very goddamn Bangdu. What next? Baul geet?
> Cheers,
> Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all
> time, sole god among lotsa devils.
>
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 9, 2012, 2:01:28 PM5/9/12
to
In article <9a444321-a368-4b0b...@ot8g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> On May 9, 7:36=A0pm, [GOON] DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 9, 10:15=A0am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > > On May 9, 6:56=A0pm, [GOON] DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
o o o
About the terrorist Goon Squad:
"Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
<KalluM...@gmail.com> tries his best to be a bully --
telling others what and when to post, where to post and
where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
<us...@this.com>, and issues *death threats* to people),
is priming himself for conditions such as stroke and
heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" <jos...@gmail.com> who
displays unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and
the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
favorite now is "fana...@gmail.com" (note the extra "b"
and "gmail.com") to make it appear as if the posts are
from "fan...@aol.com", who has been a regular poster for
many years.
-Updated on February 2, 2012-
Arindam Banerjee <adda...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> On May 9, 7:36=A0pm, [GOON] DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 9, 10:15=A0am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > > On May 9, 6:56=A0pm, [GOON] DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > On May 9, 9:31=A0am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Certainly all Gujaratis I know in real life are like most normal
> > > > > people.
> >
> > > > You and monkey have let it known why you called monkey a monkey, jBm
> > > > and why monkey started to call you a fraud etc.
> >
> > > We have had our disputes, yes, but now we have made up. =A0But has your
> > > > On May 9, 9:31=A0am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Certainly all Gujaratis I know in real life are like most normal
> > > > > people.
> >
> > > > You and monkey have let it known why you called monkey a monkey, jBm
> > > > and why monkey started to call you a fraud etc.
> >
> > > basic mean, malevolent and twisted nature changed, Joshiji?
> >
> > > > But what was of those most normal Gujarati you knew in real life that
> > > > they became "snake rapers"
> >
> > > Pity you have no sense of humour, Joshiji. =A0A lot of stupidity
> >
> > > > But what was of those most normal Gujarati you knew in real life that
> > > > they became "snake rapers"
> >
> > > instead.
> >
> > > > and "Guj-jews" ?
> >
> > > That was irresistible, after all the meannes and malevolence you and
> > > your bootlickers showed me, not to speak of the "reception" I got from
> > > an IAS officer
> > > from Gujarat, Joshiji. =A0Not that I have anything against most
> >
> > > > and "Guj-jews" ?
> >
> > > That was irresistible, after all the meannes and malevolence you and
> > > your bootlickers showed me, not to speak of the "reception" I got from
> > > an IAS officer
> > > Gujaratis and Jews - but I cannot love a abusive goo.jew.ratty like
> > > you and all the abominable jews of usenet, who have always
> > > been out to crucify me for my anti-einsteinism but so far have not
> > > been able to succeed in that matter. =A0Angels do guard me, see.
> > > you and all the abominable jews of usenet, who have always
> > > been out to crucify me for my anti-einsteinism but so far have not
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all
> > > time, sole god among lotsa devils.
> >
> > Boy, whatever you are getting on Usenet, you have worked for it, so be
> > happy.
>
> I am happy.
Excellent!
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all
> > > time, sole god among lotsa devils.
> >
> > Boy, whatever you are getting on Usenet, you have worked for it, so be
> > happy.
>
> I am happy.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
About the terrorist Goon Squad:
"Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
<KalluM...@gmail.com> tries his best to be a bully --
telling others what and when to post, where to post and
where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
<us...@this.com>, and issues *death threats* to people),
is priming himself for conditions such as stroke and
heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" <jos...@gmail.com> who
displays unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and
the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
favorite now is "fana...@gmail.com" (note the extra "b"
and "gmail.com") to make it appear as if the posts are
from "fan...@aol.com", who has been a regular poster for
many years.
-Updated on February 2, 2012-
Arindam Banerjee
May 9, 2012, 6:19:22 PM5/9/12
to
On May 10, 4:01 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <9a444321-a368-4b0b-9d6f-73f909b4c...@ot8g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
The happiness of decent people naturally bothers the goons.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <9a444321-a368-4b0b-9d6f-73f909b4c...@ot8g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
> Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> o o o
>
> About the terrorist Goon Squad:
>
> "Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
> <KalluMallu...@gmail.com> tries his best to be a bully --
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>
> o o o
>
> About the terrorist Goon Squad:
>
> "Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri)
> telling others what and when to post, where to post and
> where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
> others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
> fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
> lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
> <u...@this.com>, and issues *death threats* to people),
> where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
> others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
> fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
> lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
> is priming himself for conditions such as stroke and
> heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
> Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" <josh...@gmail.com> who
> heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
> displays unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and
> the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
>
> The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
> through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
> else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
> favorite now is "fanab...@gmail.com" (note the extra "b"
> the instigator who posts as "Bholu" <bh...@hotmail.com>
>
> The Goon Squad currently posts most of their abuse
> through eternal-september.org and by writing someone
> else's name or handle in the "From:" header -- their
> and "gmail.com") to make it appear as if the posts are
> from "fana...@aol.com", who has been a regular poster for
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 9, 2012, 6:31:57 PM5/9/12
to
In article <4fdf3fc3-2eba-4643...@ns1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > > On May 9, 10:15=3DA0am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote=
> :
> > > > > On May 9, 6:56=3DA0pm, [GOON] DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > On May 9, 9:31=3DA0am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wr=
> ote:
> >
> > > > > > > Certainly all Gujaratis I know in real life are like most norma=
> l
> > > > > > > people.
> >
> > > > > > You and monkey have let it known why you called monkey a monkey, =
> > > > > instead.
> >
> > > > > > and "Guj-jews" ?
> >
> > > > > That was irresistible, after all the meannes and malevolence you an=
> d
> > > > > your bootlickers showed me, not to speak of the "reception" I got f=
> rom
> > > > > an IAS officer
> > > > > from Gujarat, Joshiji. =3DA0Not that I have anything against most
yahaa(n) per yaa inglish mein? I like either or both.
Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > In article <9a444321-a368-4b0b-9d6f-73f909b4c...@ot8g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > On May 9, 7:36=3DA0pm, [GOON] DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <9a444321-a368-4b0b-9d6f-73f909b4c...@ot8g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> >
> > > > On May 9, 10:15=3DA0am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote=
> :
> > > > > On May 9, 6:56=3DA0pm, [GOON] DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > On May 9, 9:31=3DA0am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wr=
> ote:
> >
> > > > > > > Certainly all Gujaratis I know in real life are like most norma=
> l
> > > > > > > people.
> >
> > > > > > You and monkey have let it known why you called monkey a monkey, =
> jBm
> > > > > > and why monkey started to call you a fraud etc.
> >
> > > > > We have had our disputes, yes, but now we have made up. =3DA0But ha=
> > > > > > and why monkey started to call you a fraud etc.
> >
> s your
> > > > > basic mean, malevolent and twisted nature changed, Joshiji?
> >
> > > > > > But what was of those most normal Gujarati you knew in real life =
> > > > > basic mean, malevolent and twisted nature changed, Joshiji?
> >
> that
> > > > > > they became "snake rapers"
> >
> > > > > Pity you have no sense of humour, Joshiji. =3DA0A lot of stupidity
> > > > > > they became "snake rapers"
> >
> > > > > instead.
> >
> > > > > > and "Guj-jews" ?
> >
> > > > > That was irresistible, after all the meannes and malevolence you an=
> d
> > > > > your bootlickers showed me, not to speak of the "reception" I got f=
> rom
> > > > > an IAS officer
> > > > > from Gujarat, Joshiji. =3DA0Not that I have anything against most
> > > > > Gujaratis and Jews - but I cannot love a abusive goo.jew.ratty like
> > > > > you and all the abominable jews of usenet, who have always
> > > > > been out to crucify me for my anti-einsteinism but so far have not
> > > > > been able to succeed in that matter. =3DA0Angels do guard me, see.
> > > > > you and all the abominable jews of usenet, who have always
> > > > > been out to crucify me for my anti-einsteinism but so far have not
> >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all
> > > > > time, sole god among lotsa devils.
> >
> > > > Boy, whatever you are getting on Usenet, you have worked for it, so be
> > > > happy.
> >
> > > I am happy.
> >
> > Excellent!
> >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all
> > > > > time, sole god among lotsa devils.
> >
> > > > Boy, whatever you are getting on Usenet, you have worked for it, so be
> > > > happy.
> >
> > > I am happy.
> >
> > Excellent!
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> The happiness of decent people naturally bothers the goons.
Very much so. What do you prefer, hindi mein baat karein
> > Om Shanti
>
> The happiness of decent people naturally bothers the goons.
yahaa(n) per yaa inglish mein? I like either or both.
Arindam Banerjee
May 9, 2012, 6:48:55 PM5/9/12
to
On May 10, 8:31 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <4fdf3fc3-2eba-4643-981a-5cb807863...@ns1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
I think we should talk in English as the purpose of usenet is not to
restrict readership, unlike say facebook. Those who know Hindi here
also know English, but not
vice-versa.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <4fdf3fc3-2eba-4643-981a-5cb807863...@ns1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
restrict readership, unlike say facebook. Those who know Hindi here
also know English, but not
vice-versa.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
May 9, 2012, 6:57:10 PM5/9/12
to
In article <d4b31d9c-88f8-48ca...@k10g2000pbk.googlegroups.com>,
Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com>
> > > > > On May 9, 7:36=3D3DA0pm, [GOON] DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On May 9, 10:15=3D3DA0am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com>=
> wrote=3D
> > > :
> > > > > > > On May 9, 6:56=3D3DA0pm, [GOON] DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wro=
> te:
> >
> > > > > > > > On May 9, 9:31=3D3DA0am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.c=
> om> wr=3D
> > > ote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Certainly all Gujaratis I know in real life are like most n=
> orma=3D
> > > l
> > > > > > > > > people.
> >
> > > > > > > > You and monkey have let it known why you called monkey a monk=
> ey, =3D
> But ha=3D
> ife =3D
> u an=3D
> > > d
> > > > > > > your bootlickers showed me, not to speak of the "reception" I g=
> ot f=3D
> > > rom
> > > > > > > an IAS officer
> > > > > > > from Gujarat, Joshiji. =3D3DA0Not that I have anything against =
> most
> > > > > > > Gujaratis and Jews - but I cannot love a abusive goo.jew.ratty =
> not
> > > > > > > been able to succeed in that matter. =3D3DA0Angels do guard me,=
> see.
> >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, greatest genius of a=
oriented agencies snooping around here would prefer
posts to be in English too.
Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com>
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <4fdf3fc3-2eba-4643-981a-5cb807863...@ns1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > In article <9a444321-a368-4b0b-9d6f-73f909b4c...@ot8g2000pbb.googlegr=
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <4fdf3fc3-2eba-4643-981a-5cb807863...@ns1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> posted:
> > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> >
> > > > > On May 9, 7:36=3D3DA0pm, [GOON] DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On May 9, 10:15=3D3DA0am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com>=
> wrote=3D
> > > :
> > > > > > > On May 9, 6:56=3D3DA0pm, [GOON] DMJoshi <josh...@gmail.com> wro=
> te:
> >
> > > > > > > > On May 9, 9:31=3D3DA0am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.c=
> om> wr=3D
> > > ote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Certainly all Gujaratis I know in real life are like most n=
> orma=3D
> > > l
> > > > > > > > > people.
> >
> > > > > > > > You and monkey have let it known why you called monkey a monk=
> ey, =3D
> > > jBm
> > > > > > > > and why monkey started to call you a fraud etc.
> >
> > > > > > > We have had our disputes, yes, but now we have made up. =3D3DA0=
> > > > > > > > and why monkey started to call you a fraud etc.
> >
> But ha=3D
> > > s your
> > > > > > > basic mean, malevolent and twisted nature changed, Joshiji?
> >
> > > > > > > > But what was of those most normal Gujarati you knew in real l=
> > > > > > > basic mean, malevolent and twisted nature changed, Joshiji?
> >
> ife =3D
> > > that
> > > > > > > > they became "snake rapers"
> >
> > > > > > > Pity you have no sense of humour, Joshiji. =3D3DA0A lot of stup=
> > > > > > > > they became "snake rapers"
> >
> idity
> > > > > > > instead.
> >
> > > > > > > > and "Guj-jews" ?
> >
> > > > > > > That was irresistible, after all the meannes and malevolence yo=
> > > > > > > instead.
> >
> > > > > > > > and "Guj-jews" ?
> >
> u an=3D
> > > d
> > > > > > > your bootlickers showed me, not to speak of the "reception" I g=
> ot f=3D
> > > rom
> > > > > > > an IAS officer
> > > > > > > from Gujarat, Joshiji. =3D3DA0Not that I have anything against =
> most
> > > > > > > Gujaratis and Jews - but I cannot love a abusive goo.jew.ratty =
> like
> > > > > > > you and all the abominable jews of usenet, who have always
> > > > > > > been out to crucify me for my anti-einsteinism but so far have =
> > > > > > > you and all the abominable jews of usenet, who have always
> not
> > > > > > > been able to succeed in that matter. =3D3DA0Angels do guard me,=
> see.
> >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee, greatest genius of a=
> ll
> > > > > > > time, sole god among lotsa devils.
> >
> > > > > > Boy, whatever you are getting on Usenet, you have worked for it, =
> > > > > > > time, sole god among lotsa devils.
> >
> so be
> > > > > > happy.
> >
> > > > > I am happy.
> >
> > > > Excellent!
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > The happiness of decent people naturally bothers the goons.
> >
> > Very much so. What do you prefer, hindi mein baat karein
> > yahaa(n) per yaa inglish mein? I like either or both.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> I think we should talk in English as the purpose of usenet is not to
> restrict readership, unlike say facebook. Those who know Hindi here
> also know English, but not vice-versa.
That's a valid point. I think that the many security-
> > > > > > happy.
> >
> > > > > I am happy.
> >
> > > > Excellent!
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > The happiness of decent people naturally bothers the goons.
> >
> > Very much so. What do you prefer, hindi mein baat karein
> > yahaa(n) per yaa inglish mein? I like either or both.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> I think we should talk in English as the purpose of usenet is not to
> restrict readership, unlike say facebook. Those who know Hindi here
> also know English, but not vice-versa.
oriented agencies snooping around here would prefer
posts to be in English too.
Arindam Banerjee
May 9, 2012, 9:05:08 PM5/9/12
to
On May 9, 11:15 pm, "Myself Mallu, Yourself?"
<KalluMallu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/9/2012 1:31 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>
> > On May 9, 5:50 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
> > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>
> >>> There is no law about incarceration of humanoids amounting to pains in
> >>> the wrong part of the body - they just have to be endured, in any free
> >>> society.
>
> >> There are laws about death threats and bullying, however.
>
> And there are laws about hate speech too. This piece of garbage, Lady
> Kaka, spews forth hate speech 24/7 against Muslims and Catholics.
> Claiming to be a "real Hindu" wishes death to several people. There
> cannot be a bigger fraud and hypocrite than Lady Kaka.
Look who is ranting! heh-heh
> On 5/9/2012 1:31 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>
> > On May 9, 5:50 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
> > Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>
> >>> There is no law about incarceration of humanoids amounting to pains in
> >>> the wrong part of the body - they just have to be endured, in any free
> >>> society.
>
> >> There are laws about death threats and bullying, however.
>
> And there are laws about hate speech too. This piece of garbage, Lady
> Kaka, spews forth hate speech 24/7 against Muslims and Catholics.
> Claiming to be a "real Hindu" wishes death to several people. There
> cannot be a bigger fraud and hypocrite than Lady Kaka.
Arindam Banerjee
May 9, 2012, 8:52:12 PM5/9/12
to
On May 10, 8:57 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <d4b31d9c-88f8-48ca-8ad8-517aedc9d...@k10g2000pbk.googlegroups.com>,
Ah, so one need not find out one's readership in usenet just by
subscriber numbers, but also by the uncounted lurkers, who in theory
could be near-infinite in number.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <d4b31d9c-88f8-48ca-8ad8-517aedc9d...@k10g2000pbk.googlegroups.com>,
subscriber numbers, but also by the uncounted lurkers, who in theory
could be near-infinite in number.
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