Re: Oregon Weather

[HVAC]

On 8/15/2012 2:58 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
> My dinky room they get $875 I pay only $300 .


You're welcome.



> No homeless in Fl.
> Sheriff "Bob" Hansell takes them for their last ride to lake Toho to
> be fed to the gaters. Sad but True TeBert


So with all your extra money, you're paying down your water bill, right?

I mean, that's the right thing to do.

And after you pay off that bill, you can start sending money to Twit!














--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

[john]

The rite thing would be to dump that women-hating sig.
And maybe let a couple of ur white-supremacy
clubmemberships lapse.
:) put ur Uzi back- just kiddin
john

[Double-A]

On Aug 15, 1:38 pm, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/15/2012 2:58 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
>
>
> > My dinky room they get $875 I pay only $300 .
>
> You're welcome.
>
> > No homeless in Fl.
> > Sheriff "Bob" Hansell takes them for their last ride to lake Toho to
> > be fed to the gaters.  Sad but True   TeBert
>
> So with all your extra money, you're paying down your water bill, right?
>
> I mean, that's the right thing to do.

Uh, and just what would be the benefit to Bert for doing that?

Double-A

[HVAC]

On 8/16/2012 1:35 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>>
>> So with all your extra money, you're paying down your water bill, right?
>>
>> I mean, that's the right thing to do.
>
>
> Uh, and just what would be the benefit to Bert for doing that?

He would join the ranks of honest citizens in the United States that
pays their bills and acts in a forthright manner.

(In your case that ship sailed LONG ago)

[G=EMC^2]

AA You will note when Rick Scott stole 1.7 billion from medicare no
GOPers said a word. Get the picture TreBert

[HVAC]

On 8/16/2012 4:12 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
>>> So with all your extra money, you're paying down your water bill, right?
>>
>>> I mean, that's the right thing to do.
>>
>> Uh, and just what would be the benefit to Bert for doing that?
>>
>> Double-A
>
> AA You will note when Rick Scott stole 1.7 billion from medicare no
> GOPers said a word. Get the picture TreBert

AA, notice how quickly Bert tries to change the subject? LOL!

[G=EMC^2]

HVAC I would answer you posts if you would try to act like a nice
person. Not like a GOPer abusive person TreBert

[Double-A]

On Aug 16, 10:50 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/16/2012 1:35 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>
>
> >> So with all your extra money, you're paying down your water bill, right?
>
> >> I mean, that's the right thing to do.
>
> > Uh, and just what would be the benefit to Bert for doing that?
>
> He would join the ranks of honest citizens in the United States that
> pays their bills and acts in a forthright manner.
>
> (In your case that ship sailed LONG ago)

Are you preaching, Harlow?

Funny, my mind nihilism, amoralirty, and anarchy followed logically
from being and atheist. All things are permitted! But I notice a lot
of you atheists seem to be going out of your way to try to prove that
you are just as good and ethical as the religious people. Guilt trip?

Double-A

[G=EMC^2]

Rain for Sat. Today it was sunny and 87F If it rains all day we will
have a party at Robbin's. She has two rooms. Will bring my laptop and
show those that never had a computer how it works. Hard to believe
people never had a computer. Go Figure TreBert

[HVAC]

On 8/17/2012 1:47 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>>> Uh, and just what would be the benefit to Bert for doing that?
>>
>> He would join the ranks of honest citizens in the United States that
>> pays their bills and acts in a forthright manner.
>>
>> (In your case that ship sailed LONG ago)
>
>
> Are you preaching, Harlow?

Just answering your question. That IS why you asked...To have it answered?

> Funny, my mind nihilism, amoralirty, and anarchy followed logically
> from being and atheist. All things are permitted! But I notice a lot
> of you atheists seem to be going out of your way to try to prove that
> you are just as good and ethical as the religious people. Guilt trip?

You're not an atheist?

[HVAC]

On 8/17/2012 7:16 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
>
> HVAC I would answer you posts if you would try to act like a nice
> person. Not like a GOPer abusive person TreBert

First of all, I am NOT a republican.

Secondly, as to your charge that I am not a *nice* person, I would say
that is somewhat of a subjective viewpoint. I will admit that often I am
not very patient with those who refuse to learn ans most especially,
with hypocrites. As I have said before, some teach with a scalpel, I
reach with a chainsaw.



Have a nice day! :-)

[HVAC]

On 8/17/2012 7:16 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
>

> HVAC I would answer you posts if you would try to act like a nice
> person.

Also, just a quick question...How does one 'act' like a nice person?

[Free Lunch]

On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:55:51 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote in
alt.atheism:

>On 8/17/2012 7:16 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>>
>>
>> HVAC I would answer you posts if you would try to act like a nice
>> person.
>
>
>Also, just a quick question...How does one 'act' like a nice person?

Act in a manner that imitates those who are actually nice. There's a
chance that the underlying niceness will rub off.

[G=EMC^2]

Rained over night,but the Sun just came out and its 70F will hit 86 by
2pm. No wind so Robbin and I will just sit by the lake,and sip wine
and Bud. No wind to fill the sail takes away the fun. I hope my
laptop can pick up a strong signal by the lake??? TreBert

[G=EMC^2]

On Aug 18, 9:33 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:55:51 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote in

> alt.atheism:
>
> >On 8/17/2012 7:16 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
> >> HVAC  I would answer you posts if you would try to act like a nice
> >> person.
>
> >Also, just a quick question...How does one 'act' like a nice person?
>
> Act in a manner that imitates those who are actually nice. There's a
> chance that the underlying niceness will rub off.

Its really not possible for a racist to be nice.They are brain washed
at an early age. TreBert

[HVAC]

On 8/18/2012 9:33 AM, Free Lunch wrote:
>
>>
>> Also, just a quick question...How does one 'act' like a nice person?
>
> Act in a manner that imitates those who are actually nice. There's a
> chance that the underlying niceness will rub off.

OK...I'll give it a try, asshole.

[Double-A]

On Aug 18, 7:11 am, "G=EMC^2" <herbertglazi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rained over night,but the Sun just came out and its 70F will hit 86 by
> 2pm.  No wind so Robbin and I will just sit by the lake,and sip wine
> and Bud.  No wind to fill the sail takes away the fun.  I hope my
> laptop can pick up a strong signal by the lake???   TreBert

By odd coincidence it is also raining lightly here this morning. Rain
drops on the bus windshield caused Cindy to use the wipers some this
morning. Yesterday was hot, near 100F again. Cindy said that 6
TriMet bus drivers were passed out from the heat yesterday! Still no
A/C in most busses. She said this is something you will never hear
about in the news. I said that OHSA should be looking into it.
Involves unsafe woring conditions for the drivers, and danger to the
passangers! But cover up in progress! Nice to have the air
conditioned book store to spend the afternoon reading in!

63F at 10:30 AM PDT. Cloudy skies with light sprinkles of rain. Wind
N at 5 mph. Humidity 78%. Forecast is for chance of storm, high 86F,
low 55F.

Double-A

[Double-A]

Rick Scott in the news again:

Rick Scott's Early Voting Law Would Suppress Black Votes, Federal
Court Rules!

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/08/rick_scotts_early_voting_law_w.php

Double-A

[HVAC]

On 8/18/2012 1:33 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
> By odd coincidence it is also raining lightly here this morning. Rain
> drops on the bus windshield caused Cindy to use the wipers some this
> morning. Yesterday was hot, near 100F again. Cindy said that 6
> TriMet bus drivers were passed out from the heat yesterday! Still no
> A/C in most busses. She said this is something you will never hear
> about in the news. I said that OHSA should be looking into it.
> Involves unsafe woring conditions for the drivers, and danger to the
> passangers! But cover up in progress! Nice to have the air
> conditioned book store to spend the afternoon reading in!

So ALL construction workers who work outside or in unfinished buildings
should be laid off when the temp is too hot or too cold? And those are
people who actually work...Not sit on their fat ass like that bus driver

And would all these people be willing to forgo their pay when given the
day off?

Re-think your position.

[Double-A]

After the party gets going, and everybody has had a few drinks, you
can show them how to find porn!

Double-A

[HVAC]

On 8/18/2012 1:16 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>> Rain for Sat. Today it was sunny and 87F If it rains all day we will
>> have a party at Robbin's. She has two rooms. Will bring my laptop and
>> show those that never had a computer how it works. Hard to believe
>> people never had a computer. Go Figure TreBert
>
>
> After the party gets going, and everybody has had a few drinks, you
> can show them how to find porn!

Perhaps Bert is MAKING porn with Robin.

Title: 'Bobbin Robin Does Bert'

[Double-A]

They are already giving the drivers every drug and alcohol test they
can think of. Reason is for the safety of the passengers. But here
they are making the drivers drive while heat impaired and looking the
other way!

Double-A

[HVAC]

On 8/18/2012 2:34 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>> So ALL construction workers who work outside or in unfinished buildings
>> should be laid off when the temp is too hot or too cold? And those are
>> people who actually work...Not sit on their fat ass like that bus driver
>>
>> And would all these people be willing to forgo their pay when given the
>> day off?
>>
>> Re-think your position.
>
>
> They are already giving the drivers every drug and alcohol test they
> can think of. Reason is for the safety of the passengers. But here
> they are making the drivers drive while heat impaired and looking the
> other way!

OK... I'm with you on this issue. Send all the drivers home without pay
when the temp gets above 85 degrees. Of course, this means YOU will be
driving those Hush Puppies you're wearing to get where you want to go
since no buses will be operating.

Have a nice day! :-)

[G=EMC^2]

When it gets to 100F I stay at the bar and play pool for beers. It
keeps me from getting hypothermia ,and its cool TreBert

[HVAC]

On 8/18/2012 3:23 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
> When it gets to 100F I stay at the bar and play pool for beers. It
> keeps me from getting hypothermia ,and its cool TreBert

Then he drives home drunk.

[hanson]

"HVAC" <mr....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:k0ortm$k70$2...@hvac.motzarella.org...

> On 8/18/2012 3:23 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>>
>> When it gets to 100F I stay at the bar and play pool for beers. It
>> keeps me from getting hypothermia ,and its cool TreBert
>
> Then he drives home drunk.
>

No, Hebe-Herbie does not. He does not have
neither car nor a drivers license. Trent Severn
took it from him in lieu of payments for his unpaid
water bills, and when Herbie made a pussy riot
Sheriff Bob Hansel put Herbie in jail & beat him
up. Pity

[tj Frazir]

ride a bus in hon kong once.
toss some water on that bitch and turn the fan on high.
wrong side of the road please

http://community.webtv.net/GravityPhysics/WhaleSteamEngineA

[G=EMC^2]

On Aug 18, 8:38 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
> "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Only part that's reality was Osceola sheriff "Bob" Hansell had 6 of
his deputies beat me up till I was bloody,and peeing blood. Went to
jail where two more attempts to kill me. The deputy that hit me the
hardest said "I was a tough old bird" This took place on 8/10/10
Osceola sheriff is a hit man for Severn Trent Avatar. All this was
reported to the FBI,and US Justice Dept. Its been tw years,and no
hearing. Reason for Severn Trent Avatar giving orders to "Bob"
Hansell killing me was I gave out information that Severn Trent
Avatar,and Severn Trent Water were Mafia. You will make note the word
Mafia is not to be used anymore in vain. Not in press,movies,or any
congress hearings. The Godfather will not allow it. Get the picture
yet. Severn Trent Avatar saw to it that Rick Scott could steal 1.7
billion from medicare,and end up as Florida's governor. That
Zimmerman is free after shooting a 17 year old boy in the back. That
its hit man Rigby can not stay in jail. I fought to save our
democracy,and was only the power of 1 I am proud to have a brave
heart. I grew up when America was a great democracy . I will die with
a very sad heart. TreBert

[HVAC]

On 8/19/2012 7:04 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
>>>> When it gets to 100F I stay at the bar and play pool for beers. It
>>>> keeps me from getting hypothermia ,and its cool TreBert
>>
>>> Then he drives home drunk.
>>
>> No, Hebe-Herbie does not. He does not have
>> neither car nor a drivers license. Trent Severn
>> took it from him in lieu of payments for his unpaid
>> water bills, and when Herbie made a pussy riot

>> Sheriff Bob Hansel put Herbie in jail& beat him

>> up. Pity
>
> Only part that's reality

You lost your driver's license?

Was it DWI or DWO ?

[Double-A]

On Aug 18, 12:03 pm, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/18/2012 2:34 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>
>
> >> So ALL construction workers who work outside or in unfinished buildings
> >> should be laid off when the temp is too hot or too cold?  And those are
> >> people who actually work...Not sit on their fat ass like that bus driver
>
> >> And would all these people be willing to forgo their pay when given the
> >> day off?
>
> >> Re-think your position.
>
> > They are already giving the drivers every drug and alcohol test they
> > can think of.  Reason is for the safety of the passengers.  But here
> > they are making the drivers drive while heat impaired and looking the
> > other way!
>
> OK... I'm with you on this issue. Send all the drivers home without pay
> when the temp gets above 85 degrees.

The new busses being put into service now are air conditioned. Maybe
the older busses can be retrofitted.

> Of course, this means YOU will be
> driving those Hush Puppies you're wearing to get where you want to go
> since no buses will be operating.
>
> Have a nice day!   :-)

Would be just like the old days of several years ago for me. I'd get
more exercise and work on my tan!

Double-A

[HVAC]

On 8/19/2012 3:12 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>> OK... I'm with you on this issue. Send all the drivers home without pay
>> when the temp gets above 85 degrees.
>
>
> The new busses being put into service now are air conditioned. Maybe
> the older busses can be retrofitted.

And you'd be more than glad to pay more in bus fare, eh?

>> Of course, this means YOU will be
>> driving those Hush Puppies you're wearing to get where you want to go
>> since no buses will be operating.
>>
>> Have a nice day! :-)
>
>
> Would be just like the old days of several years ago for me. I'd get
> more exercise and work on my tan!

Why wait?

[Double-A]

Yes, bars are good when it's hot! Also their pretzels with all that
nutriitous salt wil be good for you in the heat!

Double-A

[Double-A]

On Aug 19, 12:53 pm, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/19/2012 3:12 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>
>
> >> OK... I'm with you on this issue. Send all the drivers home without pay
> >> when the temp gets above 85 degrees.
>
> > The new busses being put into service now are air conditioned.  Maybe
> > the older busses can be retrofitted.
>
> And you'd be more than glad to pay more in bus fare, eh?

I will be paying more on fares anyway come next month. A monthly
pass for hale and healthy young people like me will increase to $100
from $92 now. Hopefully the payroll tax assessed on businesses, and
the self-employment tax assessed on small businessmen will be jacked
up too!

Double-A

[HVAC]

On 8/19/2012 4:38 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>> And you'd be more than glad to pay more in bus fare, eh?
>
>
> I will be paying more on fares anyway come next month. A monthly
> pass for hale and healthy young people like me will increase to $100
> from $92 now. Hopefully the payroll tax assessed on businesses, and
> the self-employment tax assessed on small businessmen will be jacked
> up too!

That's $1200.00 per year. For a grand you could buy a used car.
Homeless people are too stupid to look at the big picture.

No offense. You probably don't have a driver's license. DWI?

[Double-A]

On Aug 19, 2:59 pm, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/19/2012 4:38 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>
>
> >> And you'd be more than glad to pay more in bus fare, eh?
>
> > I will be paying more on fares anyway come next month.   A monthly
> > pass for hale and healthy young people like me will increase to $100
> > from $92 now.  Hopefully the payroll tax assessed on businesses, and
> > the self-employment tax assessed on small businessmen will be jacked
> > up too!
>
> That's $1200.00 per year. For a grand you could buy a used car.
> Homeless people are too stupid to look at the big picture.
>
> No offense.  You probably don't have a driver's license. DWI?

And you are too stupid to look at the whole picture. Buying the car
is just the beginning. There's licensing, DEQ, Insurance, and repairs
when the brakes go out etc. And going anywhere in your car isn't
cheap nowadays. Have you looked at the price of gas? And then I have
no safe place to park it. I was already told by the Hillsboro police
that I can't park and sleep in it in a parking lot in the city of
Hillsboro. Rent storage space to park it? No, the way I figure, a
bus pass isn't a bad deal for someone in my situration. I can go
anywhere in Portland at just about any time with no extra cost to me.
No parking meters. No chance of a traffic ticket. And yes, I dont
have a drivers' license. But that is because they cost money, and I
had no money at all at the time it expired. Now I will have to take
a driver's test.

Double-A

[HVAC]

On 8/20/2012 1:18 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>> That's $1200.00 per year. For a grand you could buy a used car.
>> Homeless people are too stupid to look at the big picture.
>>
>> No offense. You probably don't have a driver's license. DWI?
>
>
> And you are too stupid to look at the whole picture.

Sorry. I didn't realize you were so sensitive on this issue.

> Buying the car
> is just the beginning. There's licensing,

Ya, well...That why I asked about the license.
Did you lose it for a DWI?

> DEQ, Insurance, and repairs
> when the brakes go out etc.

I've got a Lincoln Town Car with 90,000 miles on it. Never did anything
to the brakes. Of course I baby that car.

And WTF is DEQ?

> And going anywhere in your car isn't
> cheap nowadays. Have you looked at the price of gas?

I just dropped in a 60 dollar bill into the Lincoln this AM.
$3.63 gallon.

> And then I have
> no safe place to park it. I was already told by the Hillsboro police
> that I can't park and sleep in it in a parking lot in the city of
> Hillsboro. Rent storage space to park it?

You've already got the storage space.
Stop being so negative. Stop thinking like a homeless.

> No, the way I figure, a
> bus pass isn't a bad deal for someone in my situration.

A car gives you something called freedom. And the pride of ownership.

No bus can give you that.

> I can go
> anywhere in Portland at just about any time with no extra cost to me.
> No parking meters. No chance of a traffic ticket.

Stop thinking like a homeless.

> And yes, I dont
> have a drivers' license. But that is because they cost money, and I
> had no money at all at the time it expired. Now I will have to take
> a driver's test.

Driver's license here in NH costs 50 bucks. 50 fucking dollars....

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/20/2012 1:18 PM, Double-A wrote:
>>
>>> That's $1200.00 per year. For a grand you could buy a used car.
>>> Homeless people are too stupid to look at the big picture.
>>>
>>> No offense. You probably don't have a driver's license. DWI?
>>
>>
>> And you are too stupid to look at the whole picture.
>
>
> Sorry. I didn't realize you were so sensitive on this issue.
>
>
>> Buying the car
>> is just the beginning. There's licensing,
>
>
> Ya, well...That why I asked about the license.
> Did you lose it for a DWI?

The annual automoble license.

>> DEQ, Insurance, and repairs
>> when the brakes go out etc.
>
> I've got a Lincoln Town Car with 90,000 miles on it. Never did anything
> to the brakes. Of course I baby that car.

Good for you; brakes typically last 20 to 40 thousand miles, batteries
last about 5 years, etc..

Is the insurance free?

> And WTF is DEQ?

Also known as a smog check.

>> And going anywhere in your car isn't
>> cheap nowadays. Have you looked at the price of gas?
>
>
> I just dropped in a 60 dollar bill into the Lincoln this AM.
> $3.63 gallon.

Cheap gas in Hillsboro right now is $3.80 - $3.99.

>> And then I have
>> no safe place to park it. I was already told by the Hillsboro police
>> that I can't park and sleep in it in a parking lot in the city of
>> Hillsboro. Rent storage space to park it?
>
>
> You've already got the storage space.

Where is that?

> Stop being so negative. Stop thinking like a homeless.
>
>
>> No, the way I figure, a
>> bus pass isn't a bad deal for someone in my situration.
>
>
> A car gives you something called freedom. And the pride of ownership.
>
> No bus can give you that.

True, but it does cost money and predicated on having somewhere to go
that isn't practical with public transportation.

>> No parking meters. No chance of a traffic ticket.
>
> Stop thinking like a homeless.

Sounds like practical thinking to me.

>> And yes, I dont
>> have a drivers' license. But that is because they cost money, and I
>> had no money at all at the time it expired. Now I will have to take
>> a driver's test.
>
>
> Driver's license here in NH costs 50 bucks. 50 fucking dollars....

Yet another expense and the chicken and egg problem; you need a car to
take the test and a license to drive the car.

A personal vehicle only makes sense if there is somewhere you need or
want to go and there is no practical public transportation.

The other alternative is a scooter which is about an order of magnitude
cheaper to obtain and run than a car as can be vefified by thousands
of current and former starving students.

[HVAC]

On 8/20/2012 2:24 PM, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>>> Buying the car
>>> is just the beginning. There's licensing,
>>
>>
>> Ya, well...That why I asked about the license.
>> Did you lose it for a DWI?
>
> The annual automoble license.

Ummm, ya.

>>> DEQ, Insurance, and repairs
>>> when the brakes go out etc.
>>
>> I've got a Lincoln Town Car with 90,000 miles on it. Never did anything
>> to the brakes. Of course I baby that car.
>
> Good for you; brakes typically last 20 to 40 thousand miles, batteries
> last about 5 years, etc..

Again, I BABY that car. I have an F-250 that I bang around in.


> Is the insurance free?


In NH there is no mandatory car insurance. 'Live Free Or Die'.

>> And WTF is DEQ?
>
> Also known as a smog check.

Got ya, Jim.

>>> And going anywhere in your car isn't
>>> cheap nowadays. Have you looked at the price of gas?
>>
>>
>> I just dropped in a 60 dollar bill into the Lincoln this AM.
>> $3.63 gallon.
>
> Cheap gas in Hillsboro right now is $3.80 - $3.99.

Just don't drive too much.


> Where is that?


The place that you sleep at.

>>> No parking meters. No chance of a traffic ticket.
>>
>> Stop thinking like a homeless.
>
> Sounds like practical thinking to me.

If you're homeless it does. Normal people have a car. Start thinking
like a normal person and soon you'll be acting like a normal person and
soon after that you'll BECOME a normal person.

See how it works?

>> Driver's license here in NH costs 50 bucks. 50 fucking dollars....
>
> Yet another expense and the chicken and egg problem; you need a car to
> take the test and a license to drive the car.

You have NO friends?

> A personal vehicle only makes sense if there is somewhere you need or
> want to go and there is no practical public transportation.

I haven't been on a bus in...40 years? Maybe 35 if you count military
buses.

> The other alternative is a scooter which is about an order of magnitude
> cheaper to obtain and run than a car as can be vefified by thousands
> of current and former starving students.

NOW you're thinking like a normal person!

Good for you...I'm on your side all the way!

Break the cycle!

[Double-A]

On Aug 20, 10:53 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/20/2012 1:18 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>
>
> >> That's $1200.00 per year. For a grand you could buy a used car.
> >> Homeless people are too stupid to look at the big picture.
>
> >> No offense.  You probably don't have a driver's license. DWI?
>
> > And you are too stupid to look at the whole picture.
>
> Sorry. I didn't realize you were so sensitive on this issue.

Not sensitive. Just saying what I thought. No offense.

> > Buying the car
> > is just the beginning.  There's licensing,
>
> Ya, well...That why I asked about the license.
> Did you lose it for a DWI?

I have never had a DWI.

> > DEQ, Insurance, and repairs
> > when the brakes go out etc.
>
> I've got a Lincoln Town Car with 90,000 miles on it. Never did anything
> to the brakes. Of course I baby that car.
>
> And WTF is DEQ?

Department of Environmental Quality. You have to pass their test and
pay their fee before you can even reneew your car's license fee. If
you can't pass, expensive repairs are in order!

> > And going anywhere in your car isn't
> > cheap nowadays.  Have you looked at the price of gas?
>
> I just dropped in a 60 dollar bill into the Lincoln this AM.
> $3.63 gallon.

You see?

> > And then I have
> > no safe place to park it.  I was already told by the Hillsboro police
> > that I can't park and sleep in it in a parking lot in the city of
> > Hillsboro.  Rent storage space to park it?
>
> You've already got the storage space.

On the third floor of a storage facility. They don't have a car
elevator like Romney does.

> Stop being so negative. Stop thinking like a homeless.
>
> > No, the way I figure, a
> > bus pass isn't a bad deal for someone in my situration.
>
> A car gives you something called freedom. And the pride of ownership.

Pride in the ownership of a $1,000 junker?

> No bus can give you that.
>
> > I can go
> > anywhere in Portland at just about any time with no extra cost to me.
> > No parking meters.  No chance of a traffic ticket.
>
> Stop thinking like a homeless.
>
> > And yes, I dont
> > have a drivers' license.  But that is because they cost money, and I
> > had no money at all at the time it expired.   Now I will have to take
> > a driver's test.
>
> Driver's license here in NH costs 50 bucks.  50 fucking dollars....

It's more than that here.

Double-A

[Double-A]

On Aug 20, 11:24 am, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

Thanks. Just because I'm homeless doesn't mean I've lost my marbels.

> >> And yes, I dont
> >> have a drivers' license.  But that is because they cost money, and I
> >> had no money at all at the time it expired.   Now I will have to take
> >> a driver's test.
>
> > Driver's license here in NH costs 50 bucks.  50 fucking dollars....
>
> Yet another expense and the chicken and egg problem; you need a car to
> take the test and a license to drive the car.
>
> A personal vehicle only makes sense if there is somewhere you need or
> want to go and there is no practical public transportation.
>
> The other alternative is a scooter which is about an order of magnitude
> cheaper to obtain and run than a car as can be vefified by thousands
> of current and former starving students.

Busses are all weather. Scooters?

Double-A

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8/20/2012 2:24 PM, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>> Good for you; brakes typically last 20 to 40 thousand miles, batteries
>> last about 5 years, etc..
>
>
> Again, I BABY that car. I have an F-250 that I bang around in.

Yeah, so how is that relevant to anything?

All cars still need maintenance and some things are milage life limited
and some things are time life limited.

>> Is the insurance free?
>
> In NH there is no mandatory car insurance. 'Live Free Or Die'.

Good for you but most states have mandatory liability insurance
requirements.

>> Cheap gas in Hillsboro right now is $3.80 - $3.99.
>
>
> Just don't drive too much.

Then do what, take public transportation as was originally suggested?

Why would anyone with any sense buy a vehicle they would or could
hardly ever use?

>> Where is that?
>
> The place that you sleep at.

There are lots of places where one can sleep that either have no parking
or only have parking at a price.

>> Sounds like practical thinking to me.
>
> If you're homeless it does. Normal people have a car. Start thinking
> like a normal person and soon you'll be acting like a normal person and
> soon after that you'll BECOME a normal person.

Most normal people do a trade off of their needs and wants based on their
available resources, not just follow the crowd.

> See how it works?

What, getting a car just because you think that is the "normal" thing
to do?

>> Yet another expense and the chicken and egg problem; you need a car to
>> take the test and a license to drive the car.

> You have NO friends?

Easy to say but lacking in an understanding of reality; the friends of
someone retired and living on SS are most likely in the same circumstance.

>> A personal vehicle only makes sense if there is somewhere you need or
>> want to go and there is no practical public transportation.
>
> I haven't been on a bus in...40 years? Maybe 35 if you count military
> buses.

Me either but what does that have to do with anything?

>> The other alternative is a scooter which is about an order of magnitude
>> cheaper to obtain and run than a car as can be vefified by thousands
>> of current and former starving students.
>
> NOW you're thinking like a normal person!

Yeah, balance the needs and wants against the resources and find a
realistic solution for the situation.

> Good for you...I'm on your side all the way!
>
> Break the cycle!

What cycle would that be?

The personal vehicles currently I own are 2 cars, a truck, and an airplane,
having sold the off road stuff off as I lost interest and no longer wanted
them.

I balanced my needs and wants against my resources and bought a single
engine, piston aircraft as a turbine twin was unrealistic in my
situation.

Do I need to buy a Citation jet to be "normal"?

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Double-A <doub...@hush.com> wrote:
> On Aug 20, 11:24 am, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>> Sounds like practical thinking to me.
>
> Thanks. Just because I'm homeless doesn't mean I've lost my marbels.

The unfortunate reality is that most of the chronic homeless have, so
you get this stereotyping.

>> The other alternative is a scooter which is about an order of magnitude
>> cheaper to obtain and run than a car as can be vefified by thousands
>> of current and former starving students.
>
>
> Busses are all weather. Scooters?

From my starving student days expieriences, yes, but it is a pain in the
butt and sometimes scary.

In my case, there was zero public transportation between school and
where I lived and no affordable living around the school within range
of anything without an engine.

[HVAC]

On 8/20/2012 3:26 PM, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>> Again, I BABY that car. I have an F-250 that I bang around in.
>
> Yeah, so how is that relevant to anything?

Driving habits affect wear and tear. Don't you think that's relevant?

> All cars still need maintenance and some things are milage life limited
> and some things are time life limited.

Does the term 'duh' mean anything to you?

>> In NH there is no mandatory car insurance. 'Live Free Or Die'.
>
> Good for you but most states have mandatory liability insurance
> requirements.

Exactly. I choose to live in a state with a minimum amount of mandates.
No state income tax, no state sales tax, no mandatory car insurance.

And amazingly enough, we experience no anarchy.

>> Just don't drive too much.
>
> Then do what, take public transportation as was originally suggested?

No. That's not what I said. Just go where you need to go and don't just
drive around for the fuck of it.

> Why would anyone with any sense buy a vehicle they would or could
> hardly ever use?

Freedom? Hello? Anyone home there?

>> The place that you sleep at.
>
> There are lots of places where one can sleep that either have no parking
> or only have parking at a price.

I hear that Wal Mart doesn't dot bother homeless sleeping in there
parking lots.

>> If you're homeless it does. Normal people have a car. Start thinking
>> like a normal person and soon you'll be acting like a normal person and
>> soon after that you'll BECOME a normal person.
>
> Most normal people do a trade off of their needs and wants based on their
> available resources, not just follow the crowd.

Well then, you can just put those Hush Puppies into gear and get to
stepping.

>> See how it works?
>
> What, getting a car just because you think that is the "normal" thing
> to do?

No. I have 2 cars because I don't like the bus and don't like to walk
anymore. Besides, I live in a semi-rural area not serviced by bus routes

>>> Yet another expense and the chicken and egg problem; you need a car to
>>> take the test and a license to drive the car.
>
>> You have NO friends?
>
> Easy to say but lacking in an understanding of reality; the friends of
> someone retired and living on SS are most likely in the same circumstance.

So you have ZERO friends with a car?

What are you, a pariah?

>>> A personal vehicle only makes sense if there is somewhere you need or
>>> want to go and there is no practical public transportation.
>>
>> I haven't been on a bus in...40 years? Maybe 35 if you count military
>> buses.
>
> Me either but what does that have to do with anything?

We were talking about the advantages of having a car. Remember?

>>> The other alternative is a scooter which is about an order of magnitude
>>> cheaper to obtain and run than a car as can be vefified by thousands
>>> of current and former starving students.
>>
>> NOW you're thinking like a normal person!
>
> Yeah, balance the needs and wants against the resources and find a
> realistic solution for the situation.
>
>> Good for you...I'm on your side all the way!
>>
>> Break the cycle!
>
> What cycle would that be?
>
> The personal vehicles currently I own are 2 cars, a truck, and an airplane,
> having sold the off road stuff off as I lost interest and no longer wanted
> them.
>
> I balanced my needs and wants against my resources and bought a single
> engine, piston aircraft as a turbine twin was unrealistic in my
> situation.
>
> Do I need to buy a Citation jet to be "normal"?

No. But a G4 wouldn't hurt!

[Ivan I. Deer]

Does this mean you never had any marbles to lose?

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8/20/2012 3:26 PM, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>>> Again, I BABY that car. I have an F-250 that I bang around in.
>>
>> Yeah, so how is that relevant to anything?
>
>
> Driving habits affect wear and tear. Don't you think that's relevant?

Well, since this thread is about someone who's transportation needs are
already being met by public transportation and would likely drive very
little if he did have a car, no.

>> All cars still need maintenance and some things are milage life limited
>> and some things are time life limited.
>
>
> Does the term 'duh' mean anything to you?

Yeah, does it to you who originally arm waved away maintenance costs?

>>> In NH there is no mandatory car insurance. 'Live Free Or Die'.
>>
>> Good for you but most states have mandatory liability insurance
>> requirements.
>
>
> Exactly. I choose to live in a state with a minimum amount of mandates.
> No state income tax, no state sales tax, no mandatory car insurance.

Goody for you; it is otherwise in most other states and not practical
for everyone to move to NH.

>
>>> Just don't drive too much.
>>
>> Then do what, take public transportation as was originally suggested?
>
>
> No. That's not what I said. Just go where you need to go and don't just
> drive around for the fuck of it.

If the transportation needs are already being met by public transportation
in the first place, why buy a car at all?

He should buy a car just because that is what you declare as being "normal"?

>> Why would anyone with any sense buy a vehicle they would or could
>> hardly ever use?
>
> Freedom? Hello? Anyone home there?

Freedom of what if they "don't just drive around for the fuck of it" as
you just said?

With a bus pass you can ride around for the fuck of it for free.

>>> The place that you sleep at.
>>
>> There are lots of places where one can sleep that either have no parking
>> or only have parking at a price.
>
>
> I hear that Wal Mart doesn't dot bother homeless sleeping in there
> parking lots.

Local ordinances prevent that in most places no matter what Wal Mart
feels about it.

>>> If you're homeless it does. Normal people have a car. Start thinking
>>> like a normal person and soon you'll be acting like a normal person and
>>> soon after that you'll BECOME a normal person.
>>
>> Most normal people do a trade off of their needs and wants based on their
>> available resources, not just follow the crowd.
>
> Well then, you can just put those Hush Puppies into gear and get to
> stepping.

Non nequitur.

>>> See how it works?
>>
>> What, getting a car just because you think that is the "normal" thing
>> to do?
>
> No. I have 2 cars because I don't like the bus and don't like to walk
> anymore. Besides, I live in a semi-rural area not serviced by bus routes

So there is no public transportation and you have the resources to afford
to run 2 cars.

Good for you, but not everyone is in that situation and this thread is
about someone in an urban area WITH public transportation and limited
resources.

>
>>>> Yet another expense and the chicken and egg problem; you need a car to
>>>> take the test and a license to drive the car.
>>
>>> You have NO friends?
>>
>> Easy to say but lacking in an understanding of reality; the friends of
>> someone retired and living on SS are most likely in the same circumstance.
>
> So you have ZERO friends with a car?

This thread isn't about me, it is about someone retired and living on SS.

Ask him if he has any friends with a car.

> What are you, a pariah?

What are you, illiterate that you don't know who you are responding to?

> We were talking about the advantages of having a car. Remember?

Yeah, however if all your transportation needs are met by public
transportation, there is little to no advantage to owning a car.

[HVAC]

On 8/20/2012 4:55 PM, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 8/20/2012 3:26 PM, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Again, I BABY that car. I have an F-250 that I bang around in.
>>>
>>> Yeah, so how is that relevant to anything?
>>
>>
>> Driving habits affect wear and tear. Don't you think that's relevant?
>
> Well, since this thread is about someone who's transportation needs are
> already being met by public transportation and would likely drive very
> little if he did have a car, no.

I must apologize. When I was writing to YOU, I thought I was writing to
AA. Please accept my humble apology.

[Double-A]

On Aug 20, 11:54 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8/20/2012 2:24 PM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>
>
> >>> Buying the car
> >>> is just the beginning.  There's licensing,
>
> >> Ya, well...That why I asked about the license.
> >> Did you lose it for a DWI?
>
> > The annual automoble license.
>
> Ummm, ya.
>
> >>> DEQ, Insurance, and repairs
> >>> when the brakes go out etc.
>
> >> I've got a Lincoln Town Car with 90,000 miles on it. Never did anything
> >> to the brakes. Of course I baby that car.

Did you buy it used? There's no grinding or grating sound when you
apply the brakes? No rustiy residue in the wheel covers caused by
sparks flying out? Did you always need to use the emergency brake to
stop it? Dud you ever hear a loud clank! and then the car would pull
hard to one side whenever you applied the brakes?

> > Good for you; brakes typically last 20 to 40 thousand miles, batteries
> > last about 5 years, etc..
>
> Again, I BABY that car. I have an F-250 that I bang around in.

Yeah, you probably drive like on old lady! Are you sure this biig
Town Car of yours isn't imaginary like you allege Bert/s barrel boat
to be?

> > Is the insurance free?
>
> In NH there is no mandatory car insurance. 'Live Free Or Die'.

I remember paying about $50 per month for liability only. It's
manditory here. There is half of that bus fair right there!

> >> And WTF is DEQ?
>
> > Also known as a smog check.
>
> Got ya, Jim.
>
> >>> And going anywhere in your car isn't
> >>> cheap nowadays.  Have you looked at the price of gas?
>
> >> I just dropped in a 60 dollar bill into the Lincoln this AM.
> >> $3.63 gallon.
>
> > Cheap gas in Hillsboro right now is $3.80 - $3.99.
>
> Just don't drive too much.

I can ride the bus all I want for no extra charge.

> > Where is that?
>
> The place that you sleep at.

You mean the park? No parking spots there.

> >>> No parking meters.  No chance of a traffic ticket.
>
> >> Stop thinking like a homeless.
>
> > Sounds like practical thinking to me.
>
> If you're homeless it does. Normal people have a car. Start thinking
> like a normal person and soon you'll be acting like a normal person and
> soon after that you'll BECOME a normal person.
>
> See how it works?

You mean "socialized"?

> >> Driver's license here in NH costs 50 bucks.  50 fucking dollars....
>
> > Yet another expense and the chicken and egg problem; you need a car to
> > take the test and a license to drive the car.
>
> You have NO friends?
>
> > A personal vehicle only makes sense if there is somewhere you need or
> > want to go and there is no practical public transportation.
>
> I haven't been on a bus in...40 years?  Maybe 35 if you count military
> buses.

I never got on the bus that went by my house in the 19 years I lived
there. But circumstances change and people change. I have met
friends on the bus.

> > The other alternative is a scooter which is about an order of magnitude
> > cheaper to obtain and run than a car as can be vefified by thousands
> > of current and former starving students.
>
> NOW you're thinking like a normal person!

Skate boards are popular too around here, but the young athletic type
men who ride them usually use the street at 2 - 4 AM when traffic is
light.

> Good for you...I'm on your side all the way!
>
> Break the cycle!

I would have to get a cycle before I could break it. Or it might get
stolen!

Double-A

[HVAC]

On 8/21/2012 1:33 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>>>> I've got a Lincoln Town Car with 90,000 miles on it. Never did anything
>>>> to the brakes. Of course I baby that car.
>
>
> Did you buy it used?

New in 2001. Do the math and you can see I don't drive it much.
I only put on about 20,000 of that in the last 5 years.

> There's no grinding or grating sound when you
> apply the brakes?

Not even a whisper.

> No rustiy residue in the wheel covers caused by
> sparks flying out? Did you always need to use the emergency brake to
> stop it? Dud you ever hear a loud clank! and then the car would pull
> hard to one side whenever you applied the brakes?

This car is so quiet, sometimes I'm not sure that the engine is running.

>> Again, I BABY that car. I have an F-250 that I bang around in.
>
>
> Yeah, you probably drive like on old lady!

I do the visualization of an egg between my foot and the gas and brake
pedal. The car WILL go fast. I've had it up over 100 mph before. But
really, my kids call it an 'old man' car. They are correct. But when
they wanted to go to the prom in a car that looks like a limo, that old
man crap went out the window.

http://images.gtcarlot.com/pictures/14888044.jpg

> Are you sure this biig
> Town Car of yours isn't imaginary like you allege Bert/s barrel boat
> to be?

LOL

>>> Where is that?
>>
>> The place that you sleep at.
>
>
> You mean the park? No parking spots there.

Sorry, I had you mixed up with Jimp

>> If you're homeless it does. Normal people have a car. Start thinking
>> like a normal person and soon you'll be acting like a normal person and
>> soon after that you'll BECOME a normal person.
>>
>> See how it works?
>
>
> You mean "socialized"?

I mean 'normal'. Normal people have a car or two.

> I never got on the bus that went by my house in the 19 years I lived
> there. But circumstances change and people change. I have met
> friends on the bus.

I stay away from THAT type of friend.

> Skate boards are popular too around here, but the young athletic type
> men who ride them usually use the street at 2 - 4 AM when traffic is
> light.

How about a bicycle? Even one of those provides you with some freedom.

[Double-A]

On Aug 21, 11:16 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/21/2012 1:33 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>
>
> >>>> I've got a Lincoln Town Car with 90,000 miles on it. Never did anything
> >>>> to the brakes. Of course I baby that car.
>
> > Did you buy it used?
>
> New in 2001. Do the math and you can see I don't drive it much.
> I only put on about 20,000 of that in the last 5 years.
>
> > There's no grinding or grating sound when you
> > apply the brakes?
>
> Not even a whisper.

Some of those premium cars give a squeeking sound that warns you when
the breaks are almost gone.

Bicyckes change hands around here only when somebody forgets to lock
their bike up!

Double-A

[HVAC]

On 8/22/2012 2:30 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>> Not even a whisper.
>
>
> Some of those premium cars give a squeeking sound that warns you when
> the breaks are almost gone.

I think it ALL cars.

>> How about a bicycle? Even one of those provides you with some freedom.
>
>
> Bicyckes change hands around here only when somebody forgets to lock
> their bike up!

I'm glad I live here.

[Antares 531]

On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:05:37 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 8/22/2012 2:30 PM, Double-A wrote:
>>
>>> Not even a whisper.
>>
>>
>> Some of those premium cars give a squeeking sound that warns you when
>> the breaks are almost gone.
>
>I think it ALL cars.
>

This is in reference to those little metal "fingernail" gizmos
attached to the disc brake pads. These fingernails will scratch on the
brake disc when the pads are worn down to their final safe level. They
make a "fingernails on a chalk board" sort of sound.

[Double-A]

On Aug 22, 12:05 pm, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/22/2012 2:30 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>
>
> >> Not even a whisper.
>
> > Some of those premium cars give a squeeking sound that warns you when
> > the breaks are almost gone.
>
> I think it ALL cars.
>
> >> How about a bicycle?  Even one of those provides you with some freedom.
>
> > Bicyckes change hands around here only when somebody forgets to lock
> > their bike up!
>
> I'm glad I live here.

I think Oregon is the only other state with no sales tax! We do have
an income tax and a property tax.

Double-A

[ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com]

In sci.physics Double-A <doub...@hush.com> wrote:

> I think Oregon is the only other state with no sales tax! We do have
> an income tax and a property tax.
>
> Double-A

Nope, Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon have no state
wide sales tax.

Of those, only Delaware and New Hampshire have no local sales tax.

[HVAC]

They whack me pretty good in property taxes.

[G=EMC^2]

Be nice for homeless people to have a free parking lot for their cars.
Like a tent city. With cars you can lock the doors. Better insulated
than a tent. Have cookouts using my solar mirrors. The could get well
organized and create a voting block. Here in Easthampton there are
many parking lots that are empty. They just need Jonnies. Trebert

[G=EMC^2]

Two bikes for sale at where I'm staying one is a ten and the other a 3
speed. 25 bucks or best offer. I rode one it was good. They come with
nice chain locks. AA should have one . I like the 3 speed best. you
have to have wheels. O ya TreBert

[HVAC]

On 8/22/2012 5:10 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
> Two bikes for sale at where I'm staying one is a ten and the other a 3
> speed. 25 bucks or best offer. I rode one it was good. They come with
> nice chain locks. AA should have one . I like the 3 speed best. you
> have to have wheels. O ya TreBert

I think that's Bert's way of telling you that he's buying you a bicycle!
He'll send it to you shipping included!



What a nice guy you are, Bert!

[G=EMC^2]

I'm sure bikes are just as cheap in Portland. Weather was 83F
sunny,and took a nape in m van by the lake this afternoon. Kickback
day TreBert

[HVAC]

On 8/22/2012 8:06 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
>> I think that's Bert's way of telling you that he's buying you a bicycle!
>> He'll send it to you shipping included!
>>
>> What a nice guy you are, Bert!
>>
>>
>

> I'm sure bikes are just as cheap in Portland.

So you're NOT sending AA a bicycle now?
He's gonna be pissed when he finds out you welched on him.


> Weather was 83F sunny


Keep those weather reports coming.
I want another one ON MY DESK before 1800 hours.

> and took a nape in m van by the lake this afternoon. Kickback
> day TreBert

Translation: Bert got shitfaced again and passed out behind the wheel.
Good thing that THIS TIME, he was parked.

[Double-A]

A person might be able to park a car and sleep in the new Walmart
here. They are located just outside of Hillsboro where such parking
and sleeping is prohibited. Walmart supposedly allows such sleeping
and it is my understanding that this was one of the ways Hillsboro
intentionally kept Walmart out. It is in Beaverton, but I don;t know
if they have such a law.

Double-A

[Double-A]

Bert, if I thought I had the energy to ride a bike up the hills around
here, I would have gotten one a long time ago.

Double-A

[G=EMC^2]

> h ere, I would have gotten one a long time ago.
>
> Double-A

AA a 3 speed helps on hills,and also you can walk up and ride down.
Its good exercise. I have to do a lot of walking because of being
diabetic,and Rudy sees to it. Robbin likes walking though these Indian
paths its cool. Today it was 84 and sunny,and it was a nice walk.
Not much rain here,but the GOPers in Tampa best bring rain coats.teBet

[Double-A]

On Aug 23, 4:12 pm, "G=EMC^2" <herbertglazi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> AA a 3 speed helps on hills,and also you can walk up and ride down.
> Its good exercise.

Bert, I had a 3-speed when I was a teenager. Even then, riding it
very far up and down the hills were we lived left me exhausted! I get
enough exercise walking. Walking canget you just as far as biking, if
time is of no concern. I was surprised when Kim told me that she had
just up and walked to a retaurant 2 miles away yesterday!

> I have to do a lot of walking because of being
> diabetic,and Rudy sees to it. Robbin likes walking though these Indian
> paths its cool. Today it was  84 and sunny,and it was a nice walk.
> Not much rain here,but the GOPers in Tampa best bring rain coats.teBet

A cool 56F here at 10:15 AM PDT. Clear. Wind -0- mph. Humidity
72%. Forecast is for sunny, high 75F, low 46F.

Had breakfast at Safeway this morning. Two bagles with cheese
covering and jalapenos. Plus 8 Reesers Peanut Butter Cups! The
candy is out on the shelves, I guess geering up for Haloween already.
I can see that much of my diet for the next couple of months will be
coming from the candy food group!

Double-A

[Ivan I. Deer]

Do you pay for these "food" items or do you grab and gulp them on the
sly? I've seen people do this in the local stores, but never thought
anyone with a reasonable level of moral turpitude could do things like
this.

[Double-A]

Just what are you insinuating? Of course I paid for them, with food
stamps of course.

Double-A

[linuxgal]

HVAC wrote:
> On 8/22/2012 4:45 PM, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Double-A<doub...@hush.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think Oregon is the only other state with no sales tax! We do have
>>> an income tax and a property tax.
>>>
>>> Double-A
>>
>> Nope, Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon have no state
>> wide sales tax.
>>
>> Of those, only Delaware and New Hampshire have no local sales tax.
>
>
> They whack me pretty good in property taxes.
>

The sweet spot is to live in Vancouver, WA. No state tax, then you hop
over the river to Portland, OR and pay no sales tax.

--
I suffer from Mallzheimer's disease. I go to the mall and forget where I
parked my car.

[G=EMC^2]

I would rather see a person steal food,than see GOPers steal all our
money. TreBert

[@jeff-relf.me]

I too enjoy Safeway's jalapeno⋅cheese bagels;
I slice and butter them, add cheese and mircowave.

The Halloween candy display went up yesterday, but I don't buy it.

Here too, bikes are stolen left and right, especially the nicer ones.
As you said, walking is better, provided you've got the time.

I also eat ramen soup, with wet ginger and garlic, from a jar.

[bja...@iwaynet.net]

On 8/24/2012 3:30 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:

> I would rather see a person steal food,than see GOPers steal all our
> money. TreBert

If we could just get Dimocrats to stop spending tax dollars like drunken
sailors for 5 minutes, there would be more than enough food to eliminate
ALL hunger in the U.S..

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <nRYZr.243$cg5...@newsfe09.iad>,

The Republicans are the drunken sailors. All the numbers prove it.

--
JD

"the lybian lier"

[Brad Guth]

On Aug 24, 3:32 pm, @@@Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> I too enjoy Safeway's jalapeno⋅cheese bagels; I slice and butter them, add cheese and mircowave. The Halloween candy display went up yesterday, but I don't buy it. Here too, bikes are stolen left and right, especially the nicer ones. As you said, walking is better, provided you've got the time. I also eat ramen soup, with wet ginger and garlic, from a jar.

Now that you've screwed up Usenet/newsgroups for most everyone, are
you happy?

[HVAC]

On 8/24/2012 1:28 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
> Had breakfast at Safeway this morning. Two bagles with cheese
> covering and jalapenos. Plus 8 Reesers Peanut Butter Cups! The
> candy is out on the shelves,

What do you tip the scales at, AA? 320? 350?

[G=EMC^2]

On Aug 25, 12:52 am, "bjac...@teranews.com" <bjac...@iwaynet.net>
wrote:

GOPers always knew they do not go to jail over taxes. Reality is when
you still billions like Rick Scott its tax free. Severn Trent does not
need a license to sell water.Mafia does not have to keep books. TeBet

[HVAC]

On 8/25/2012 5:34 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>
>> If we could just get Dimocrats to stop spending tax dollars like drunken
>> sailors for 5 minutes, there would be more than enough food to eliminate
>> ALL hunger in the U.S..
>
> The Republicans are the drunken sailors. All the numbers prove it.

And while you two squabble over who is to blame, hunger continues.

[G=EMC^2]

Think who Bush gave the 15 trillion too. GOPers are flying into Tampa
in their private jets.Even after going through 15 trillion Bush put
America in hock with China This is now all covered up. TreBert

[HVAC]

On 8/25/2012 8:58 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
>>
>> And while you two squabble over who is to blame, hunger continues.
>>
>>
>

> Think who Bush gave the 15 trillion too.

What are you talking about? What 15 trillion?

[linuxgal]

G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
> GOPers are flying into Tampa in their private jets.

GOPers have jets, Donks are gonna ride Amtrak. Who do YOU want to
manage the economy for the next four years?

--
If the gun grabbin' Captain Planet watchin' NPR listenin' UTNE Reader
readin' red diaper doper baby union thug shoe fits, wear it!

[Mitchell Holman]

linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote in
news:NY2dnaTRibhbSqXN...@giganews.com:

> G=EMC^2 wrote:
>>
>> GOPers are flying into Tampa in their private jets.
>
> GOPers have jets, Donks are gonna ride Amtrak. Who do YOU want to
> manage the economy for the next four years?
>

We should elect the party of fiscal conservatism, yessiree.




Chairman: Republican Party is $23M in debt
USA TODAY
Jan 31 2011

The new chairman of the Republican National Committee
is being candid about the GOP's financial troubles,
issuing a statement that the party is $23 million in
debt -- more than what a new campaign finance report
says.

Reince Priebus, the RNC chairman, says the party has
$15 million in outstanding loans and owes $8 million
to vendors. The GOP's year-end report to the Federal
Election Commission, filed in Washington today, shows
$21 million in red ink.
http://tinyurl.com/3mwqc5j

[Double-A]

On Aug 24, 9:52 pm, "bjac...@teranews.com" <bjac...@iwaynet.net>
wrote:

Just bring home the troops from around the world, and there will be
plenty for everyone!

Double-A

[Double-A]

The big stores like Safeway may not exactly steal from you, but they
try to cheat you many ways. Usually by doing something deceptive to
make you think you're getting a lower price, but then a higher price
is rung up at the register, and they hope you won't notice, expecially
if you are buying a lot of other things. The store will have an
excuse, but these things are done too often for them not to be doing
it on purpose!

Nevertheless, I don't steal from them.

A cool 59F here at 10:00 AM PDT under sunny skies. Wind the usual -0-
mph. Humidity 64%. Forecast is for mostly sunny, high 81F, low 50F.
Four day forecast is for sunny skies with temps mostly in the 70s.

Too bad this weather will soon have to end. On September 1st the wind
will shift to the east, humidity will drop, and there will be a
different feeling in the air. A feeling to put on a football helmet,
or sight in a deer rifle! I already see them practicing in their
football uniforms on the Sunset High School field as I come up here on
the bus. The band is outside practicing too! The Sunset Apollos are
sometimes a contender for the state title.

Double-A

[HVAC]

On 8/25/2012 1:28 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>
> Just bring home the troops from around the world, and there will be
> plenty for everyone!

Why do you say that? Those troops still need to eat, get paid, be
covered medically, etc.

[Double-A]

On Aug 25, 5:27 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/25/2012 5:34 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>
>
>
> >> If we could just get Dimocrats to stop spending tax dollars like drunken
> >> sailors for 5 minutes, there would be more than enough food to eliminate
> >> ALL hunger in the U.S..
>
> > The Republicans are the drunken sailors. All the numbers prove it.
>
> And while you two squabble over who is to blame, hunger continues.

I can't see where hunger is really a problem in this country. If you
are humgry, there are plenty of places to get to get food. If you
give a homeless person food, that probably isn't what he needs. When
I was first homeless, I was kind of humgry, but it was just because I
didn't know where all the handouts were yet.

Double-A

[Double-A]

Interesting thing about government: When I worked at the city water
bureau, nobody there seemed to have heard of double entry accounting.
Balance the books? Why? This is government!

It made ebezzling easy! One woman was caught only because she was
taking too many round the world cruises!

Double-A

[Double-A]

On Aug 24, 3:32 pm, @@@Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

> I too enjoy Safeway's jalapeno⋅cheese bagels; I slice and butter them, add cheese and mircowave.

A Mexican baker named Angel would bring them out fresh and still warm
about 5:30 AM. Then when he realized that's what I was waiting for,
he started bringing them out cold. Is Safeway giving me a hint?

The Halloween candy display went up yesterday, but I don't buy it.
Here too, bikes are stolen left and right, especially the nicer ones.
As you said, walking is better, provided you've got the time. I also
eat ramen soup, with wet ginger and garlic, from a jar.

Andy eats a lot of ramen. Sells for about 20 cents a packet. Gets
free hot water from Starbucks. Adds stuff from the condiments bar at
Carl's Jr. And there he has the 20 cent hot breakfast!

Double-A

[Double-A]

On Aug 25, 4:37 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/24/2012 1:28 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>
>
> > Had breakfast at Safeway this morning.  Two bagles with cheese
> > covering and jalapenos.   Plus 8 Reesers Peanut Butter Cups!  The
> > candy is out on the shelves,
>
> What do you tip the scales at, AA?  320?   350?

Too high.

Double-A

[HVAC]

Ya, I know that you're high. I just wanted to know how fat you are.

[@jeff-relf.me]

I used to try to guess when the bagels would be hot,
fresh from the oven... I gave up, it's way too random.

[Double-A]

On Aug 25, 11:46 am, @@@Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> I used to try to guess when the bagels would be hot, fresh from the oven... I gave up, it's way too random.

I used to wait for hot French bread. They are supposed to have it hot
at 4, 5, and 6 PM or it's free. But it usually isn't hot, and I was
araid if I started demanding free bread, the sign would quickly be
gone!

Last night I ate their $5 Friday boneless buffalo wings!

Double-A

[@jeff-relf.me]

The old Google Groups sucked, this latest one is much worse.

I had nothing to do with it, you can be sure.

Still, I use Google Groups to search for posts.

[@jeff-relf.me]

"boneless buffalo wings" are just chicken strips.
I prefer the real thing, skin and bones.  Frozen is cheaper.

Speaking of Andy, I'll put some ketchup in my ramen, see how that works.

[@jeff-relf.me]

Speaking of government efficiency, the post office is bankrupt.
We get mail a week late, sometimes.

[@jeff-relf.me]

If your income is low enough, Seattle provides cheap housing.
However, the shortest wait is 5 years and climbing.
Depending on which building you want, the wait could be 8 years.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <NY2dnaTRibhbSqXN...@giganews.com>,

linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:

> G=EMC^2 wrote:
> >
> > GOPers are flying into Tampa in their private jets.
>
> GOPers have jets, Donks are gonna ride Amtrak. Who do YOU want to
> manage the economy for the next four years?

The ones who ride Amtrak, of course.

[linuxgal]

Ah yes, the monopoly that is nevertheless heavily subsidized by a
transfer of wealth (from taxpayers at the point of a US marshal's gun,
ultimately) because they daren't charge what it takes to cover their
costs.

--
If the gun grabbin' Captain Planet watchin' NPR listenin' UTNE Reader

readin' red diaper doper baby union thug jackboot fits, wear it!

http://www.cleanposts.com

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <geSdndEYHusW9qTN...@giganews.com>,

linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:

> Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > In article <NY2dnaTRibhbSqXN...@giganews.com>,
> > linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> >
> >> G=EMC^2 wrote:
> >>> GOPers are flying into Tampa in their private jets.
> >> GOPers have jets, Donks are gonna ride Amtrak. Who do YOU want to
> >> manage the economy for the next four years?
> >
> > The ones who ride Amtrak, of course.
>
> Ah yes, the monopoly that is nevertheless heavily subsidized by a
> transfer of wealth (from taxpayers at the point of a US marshal's gun,
> ultimately) because they daren't charge what it takes to cover their
> costs.

And the private planes are just as heavily subsidized through tax breaks.

But the private planes are wasting fuel for the sake of only a very few
people, while the trains are far more fuel-efficient. Just as those of
us who use public transportation are far more earth-friendly those those
who waste all that fuel one or 2 to a car.

[linuxgal]

Jeanne Douglas wrote:

> But the private planes are wasting fuel for the sake of only a very few
> people, while the trains are far more fuel-efficient. Just as those of
> us who use public transportation are far more earth-friendly those those
> who waste all that fuel one or 2 to a car.

Unless it turns out we're on the cusp of an ice age, in which case they
will consider those fat cats riding in their jets (like Al Gore) to be
visionaries.

[Dakota]

Unfortunately, too many people share your view that hunger isn't
really a problem.
------------
In many ways, America is the land of plenty. But for 1 in 6 people in
the United States, hunger is a reality. Many people believe that the
problems associated with hunger are confined to small pockets of
society, certain areas of the country, or certain neighborhoods, but
the reality is much different.

Right now, millions of Americans are struggling with hunger. These
are often hard-working adults, children and seniors who simply cannot
make ends meet and are forced to go without food for several meals, or
even days.

It�s time to educate ourselves about the causes and extent of hunger
in America.
--------
To learn more about the hunger problem and the ways to solve it,
please visit:

http://feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/hunger-facts.aspx

I donate monthly to the South Dakota chapter. They've recently started
a program that will provide food to needy school kids to bring home to
their families. There's probably an affiliate where you live in the USA.

Feeding America is top rated by Charity Navigator and complies with
all the Better Business Bureau standards. It is also a completely
secular organization.

http://feedingamerica.org/about-us/mission-and-values.aspx

[bja...@iwaynet.net]

On 8/25/2012 8:34 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:

> And the private planes are just as heavily subsidized through tax breaks.
>
> But the private planes are wasting fuel for the sake of only a very few
> people, while the trains are far more fuel-efficient. Just as those of
> us who use public transportation are far more earth-friendly those those
> who waste all that fuel one or 2 to a car.

And all the buses and trains are full of people, right? Gimme a break.
NOBODY rides the train. "Light rail" is the leftist wet dream which is
as idiot an idea as they come. Might as well be asking for subsidies for
wind powered cars to "save the world". Oh wait! They are!

Everybody knows that trains are NOT more "fuel efficient" when they are
empty. Neither are buses. Throwing tax money obtained at the point of a
gun at public transport is police-state nonsense. Our local bus company
(was private) went bust because nobody was riding the bus. Ok. Sorry, we
can't let it fail, because you have "care" about all those "poor people"
who were riding the bus (or not riding it as the case may be) OH MY!
WHAT ARE THEY EVER TO DO TO GET AROUND TOWN? Liberal idiot answer?
Money at gunpoint to keep failing bus system going. Same solution as
Amtrak.

How about this: We shut down the buses. We fire all the government
employees keeping this bureaucratic non-service "going" and we hand each
person with an income below the poverty line a taxi pass to give them
free rides any place they want to go. The calculation HAS been done and
it showed that the cost of that would be about 1/3 to 1/2 what it's
costing to keep the buses "running".

As always the leftist idea is all about "feelings" and never about facts
or thinking. The "double-think" here is that public transport is NOT
fuel or money efficient when it's empty.

We'll talk about WHY it's empty next time.

[hanson]

"bja...@teranews.com" <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote:

>
>
>
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
And the private planes are just as heavily subsidized through tax breaks.
But the private planes are wasting fuel for the sake of only a very few
people, while the trains are far more fuel-efficient. Just as those of
us who use public transportation are far more earth-friendly those those
who waste all that fuel one or 2 to a car.

>. __________

>. _________
>
hanson wrote:
Ben, you make a valid point... and now look at the
posts in this thread where posters like Jeff Relf
and "Double A" describe how to milk the system.
>
These down and out folks, (right or left) are NOT
stupid. If you hand them a "taxi pass to give them
free rides", in no time flat, will they figure out how to
turn that item into their own, free of charge, personal
24/7 chauffeured limousine service...
>
And Politicians know that this is one of the sure scams
of vote-buying, on how to secure their own re-elections.
There are thousands of such publicized but silent gags
like that around, known only to a few others then "the poor",
the politicians and their staff...
>
Look into the system, and you'll see that Politicians do
love the poor, which is why they make so may of them...
They even ORGANIZE whole communities of them... &
in 1 instance the organizer ended up in the White House.
... ahahahaha....
>
Another one of those type of scams is the little known
"Mortgage payment assistance prog" where "unfortunate"
folks can go and get their Mortgages paid in full for 9
months or more, as long as the land lord agrees.
>
For each such event/transactions (using taxpayer money)
the politician secures 2 votes: The grateful delinquent's
and the land lord's, the latter of whom the politician then
approaches for campaign donations... .... ahahahaha...


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[Double-A]

On Aug 25, 12:40 pm, @@@Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> "boneless buffalo wings" are just chicken strips. I prefer the real thing, skin and bones. Frozen is cheaper.

Yes, oh the money I could save if I had a way to cook!

> Speaking of Andy, I'll put some ketchup in my ramen, see how that
works.

An egg is good. Chopped hot dogs!

62F here at 1:30 PM PDT. Cloudy with some sun. Wind SW at 5 mph.
Humidity 62%. Forecast is for mostly sunny, high 75F, low 52F. About
the same for coming days.

Bus 89 came 2 minutes early, so I missed it! I said, "Hell! I'll
take bus 52!" Wainted 30 minutes for 52. Transferred to bus 62 after
waiting 15 minutes on the street. Got to library after 1 hour and 15
minutes bus time. That's 1 hour and 45 minutes after missing 89. If
I had waited an hour for the next 89, It would have got me there in
less than 20 minutes. Total time of 1 hour and 20 minutes. Not so
smart a move!

Jeff, try some of the Asian spicy ramen, such as Shin Shin Bowl.
Safeway has it. More expensive, but good!

Double-A