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Particle accelerators' search for nature's hidden dimensions comes up empty

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Sam Wormley

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Apr 6, 2012, 2:45:05 PM4/6/12
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http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/04/search-for-natures-hidden-dimensions-continues.ars

> LHC and Tevatron are still killing off the hopes and dreams of theoretical physicists everywhere. As with all things, we can expect this search to be continued, further narrowing the possible hiding places for extra dimensions.

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Apr 7, 2012, 6:15:29 AM4/7/12
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Sam Wormley wrote:

> http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/04/search-for-natures-hidden-
dimensions-continues.ars
>
>> LHC and Tevatron are still killing off the hopes and dreams of
>> theoretical physicists everywhere. As with all things, we can expect this
>> search to be continued, further narrowing the possible hiding places for
>> extra dimensions.


Some lady has come up with a theory that as you look closer at space
and objects within it, dimensionality is lost and eventually all things
collapse to 1 dimensions.

The closest analogy I can think of is a tree like structure.
As you peer closer inside the tree, it looses its 3D and turns into 2D
branches. As you peer closer, there are fewer and fewer branches
until you get to the one and only 1D trunk.


john

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Apr 7, 2012, 7:07:58 AM4/7/12
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There are three dimensions plus Time.

But there is no smallest: every
electron is a galactic arm of stars
with 10^30 planets.

It's called a fractal, is what
our Universe is- there is no
smallest. As you peer closer, there
are more and more structures just
like ours.

john
galaxy model

mpc755

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Apr 10, 2012, 2:41:50 PM4/10/12
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Particle accelerators' search for nature's hidden dimensions comes up
empty
http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/04/search-for-natures-hidden-dimensions-continues.ars

There are only three dimensions.

Time is not a dimension.

The rate at which an atomic clock ticks is a physical process
determined by the physical state of the space in which it exists. The
rate at which an atomic clock ticks is a physical process determined
by the physical state of the aether in which it exists.

"Every particle has a wavepacket, which is the wave-like nature of a
particle that is confined by the particle's mass and motion to a
region surrounding the particle's current location."

Every moving particle has an associated aether wave which IS the
particle's wave.

Tyler Dresden

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Apr 10, 2012, 8:17:45 PM4/10/12
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On Apr 10, 1:41 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Particle accelerators' search for nature's hidden dimensions comes up
> emptyhttp://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/04/search-for-natures-hidden...
>
> There are only three dimensions.
>
> Time is not a dimension.
>
> The rate at which an atomic clock ticks is a physical process
> determined by the physical state of the space in which it exists. The
> rate at which an atomic clock ticks is a physical process determined
> by the physical state of the aether in which it exists.
>
> "Every particle has a wavepacket, which is the wave-like nature of a
> particle that is confined by the particle's mass and motion to a
> region surrounding the particle's current location."
>
> Every moving particle has an associated aether wave which IS the
> particle's wave.

there are not 3 dimensions, there are two, The first is time or rate
of interfacing, the second is "one dimension of space" whose edge is
2.849 Glyrs away in all directions which is the inside edge of the
event horizon

mpc755

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Apr 11, 2012, 8:18:09 AM4/11/12
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It's three dimensional space which is physically occupied by matter
and aether.

A 'wavepacket' is a conceptually deficient mathematicians inability to
understand a moving particle has an associated aether wave.

G=EMC^2

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Apr 11, 2012, 8:39:51 AM4/11/12
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Sam you say the universe is flat(2 dimensional),and that is proven by observation YES Well tell us how that's done PLEASE IS the Sun radiating in two dimensions? Are black holes filling a hole or a sheet in space? Get the picture yet? TreBert

Sam Wormley

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Apr 11, 2012, 9:34:48 AM4/11/12
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On 4/11/12 7:39 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:

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> Sam you say the universe is flat(2 dimensional),and that is proven by observation YES Well tell us how that's done PLEASE IS the Sun radiating in two dimensions? Are black holes filling a hole or a sheet in space? Get the picture yet? TreBert

No, flat in 4-dimensions such that parallel lines don't intersect.
Flat as in Euclidean geometry.

Tyler Dresden

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Apr 11, 2012, 9:54:15 AM4/11/12
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I have to disagree, Space is One dimensional.
If you go far enough and fast enough in "any" direction, you will end
up in the same spot, which is Quark confinement.

mpc755

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Apr 11, 2012, 10:31:12 AM4/11/12
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You don't know that. You assume that. There is zero evidence of that.

It is referred to as three dimensional space and it consists of matter
and aether.

Tyler Dresden

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Apr 11, 2012, 3:56:38 PM4/11/12
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So your universe is a Cube on the outside?

mpc755

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Apr 11, 2012, 4:06:56 PM4/11/12
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The Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is in, a jet;
analogous to the polar jet of a black hole.

The following image is not a time line since the Big Bang. It is an
image of the Universal jet.

http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html

xxein

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Apr 13, 2012, 8:39:52 PM4/13/12
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xxein: Just another theory. Far different from the physical
reality. Is that just an answer for your fcat test? Why don't you
use the internet for porn? That would be more real than that.
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mpc755

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Apr 13, 2012, 11:36:03 PM4/13/12
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'Another violent galaxy cluster collision discovered'
http://www.astronomy.com/News-Observing/News/2012/04/Another violent
galaxy cluster collision discovered.aspx

"astronomers have observed a violent collision between two galaxy
clusters in which so-called normal matter has been wrenched apart from
dark matter"

Dark matter is not wrenched apart from matter. Matter moves through
and displaces the aether. The analogy are two boats passing close to
one another. The boats and their bow waves interact and the water
sloshes back and forth.

Y.Porat

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Apr 14, 2012, 2:37:39 AM4/14/12
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On Friday, April 6, 2012 9:45:05 PM UTC+3, Sam Wormley wrote:
> http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/04/search-for-natures-hidden-dimensions-continues.ars
>
> > LHC and Tevatron are still killing off the hopes and dreams of theoretical physicists everywhere. As with all things, we can expect this search to be continued, further narrowing the possible hiding places for extra dimensions.

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no need for LHC TO KNOW THAT
THERE ARE NO HIDDEN DIMENSIONS !!!

in general
the stupid LHC people have a special 'talent'
to waist huge resources on nonsense idiotic ''physics''
like for instance as well on the idiotic Higs Bosons

ATB
Y.Porat
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Luigi Passalaqua

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Apr 14, 2012, 6:40:33 AM4/14/12
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On Apr 10, 8:41 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Particle accelerators' search for nature's hidden dimensions comes up
> emptyhttp://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/04/search-for-natures-hidden...
>
> There are only three dimensions.
>
> Time is not a dimension.

yes, the main reason for investments
in large expensive colliders and moon
landings, is to prove relativity and evolution right !!!

good bye

Luigi Passalaqua

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Apr 14, 2012, 6:47:16 AM4/14/12
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On Apr 10, 8:41 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Particle accelerators' search for nature's hidden dimensions comes up
> emptyhttp://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/04/search-for-natures-hidden...
>
> There are only three dimensions.
>
> Time is not a dimension.

also, is kinda stoopid to search for
other dimensions, just because
presumingly those are very small !!!

have a nice weekend
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