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.-- .- -... -. .. --. @.-----.DOT.-- H. Wabnig

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Mar 28, 2007, 11:38:42 AM3/28/07
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That's what they give me to read on item nr. 230110538205
"Atomic Physics film DVD and nuclear reactions" with Einstein's face.


\Ebay quote:
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blocked due to legal restrictions in your home country. Based on our
discussions with concerned government agencies and eBay community
members, we have taken these steps to reduce the chance of
inappropriate items being displayed. Regrettably, in some cases this
policy may prevent users from accessing items that do not violate the
law. At this time, we are working on less restrictive alternatives.
Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause you,
and we hope you may find other items of interest on eBay.

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Go to hell, Ebay!


w.

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Mar 28, 2007, 11:58:13 AM3/28/07
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Yes, they should go there and rot.

Found another one 230110538189
"Atomic bomb effects on Hiroshima" DVD

Can't even read the item page.

w.

hanson

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Mar 28, 2007, 12:04:59 PM3/28/07
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....ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA.... ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA....
Wabbie aka "H. Wabnig" <.... .-- .- .. --. @ .- --- -. DOT .- -> wrote in
message news:qu2l0312n456br8u8...@4ax.com...
> Re: Ebay craziness
>
> That's what they give me,Wabbie, to read on item nr. 230110538205

> "Atomic Physics film DVD and nuclear reactions" with Einstein's face.
> ---------------- \Ebay quote:

> Dear User:
> Unfortunately, access to this particular category or item has been
> blocked due to legal restrictions in your home country. Based on our
> discussions with concerned government agencies and eBay community
> members, we have taken these steps to reduce the chance of
> inappropriate items being displayed. Regrettably, in some cases this
> policy may prevent users from accessing items that do not violate the
> law. At this time, we are working on less restrictive alternatives.
> Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause you,
> and we hope you may find other items of interest on eBay.
> Thank You.
> Hit the return button to return to the previous page.
> ------------- \End Ebay quote

>
> Go to hell, Ebay!
> w.
>
[hanson]
See, Wabbie, what relativity brings to you, absolutely!?... ahahaha..
See, even Ebay and "concerned government agencies in your
home country, Austria" have caught on to the con that REL is... ahaha..
Here is some consolation and condolences for you, Wabbie
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/47cc4181eb6470dd
Enjoy!... Don't grieve.
ahahaha.... ahahahahanson

Nomen Lapetos

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Mar 28, 2007, 12:07:53 PM3/28/07
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"H. Wabnig" <.... .-- .- -... -. .. --. @ .- --- -. DOT .- -> wrote in
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you could design a nuke with that video! Well at least a Hollywood look
alike, big cardboard box with Nuke on the side.


.-- .- -... -. .. --. @.-----.DOT.-- H. Wabnig

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Mar 28, 2007, 12:20:49 PM3/28/07
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Nice to meet you again, hanson.

So if a train goes from San Francisco to Los Angeles with velocity v,
and returns later with velocity -v, the average velocity is

va = v +(-v) = 0 aka "ZERO"

according to Androcles' math which you lick from his arse.

ahahahahahanson!

w.

hanson

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Mar 28, 2007, 1:01:14 PM3/28/07
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ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA.... ahahahaha.... grievously angry
"H. Wabnig" <.... .-- @ .- --- -. DOT .- -> wabniggered in message
news:f75l03t0cfs3bmf9d...@4ax.com...
[Wabbie]

> Nice to meet you again, hanson.
> So if a train goes from San Francisco to Los Angeles with velocity v,
> and returns later with velocity -v, the average velocity is
> va = v +(-v) = 0 aka "ZERO"
> according to Androcles' math which you lick from his arse.
> ahahahahahanson!
> w.
>
[hanson]
... ahahaha... But Wabbie, there is no "so", except that it proved
that you could see what's at issue which made you, in your grief,
anger and disappointment exhibit your perverted yearnings for
licking Andro's ass.... ahahahaha... Look, it said in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/47cc4181eb6470dd
"...Now if you still can't see it then don't argue with Andro or me.
=1= Argue with Einstein himself why he was....
=2= Argue with Nobel prize commissioner, Harald Nordensen...
=3= Argue again with Einstein himself who close to ...
=4= Argue with luminaries like Professor Carver A. Mead...
=5= Argue with F.A Hayek, Nobel laureate, who ...
=6= Argue even with the Brits' conservative Royal Society who...
=7= Argue with the higher the learning institutions in Bavaria who,..
=8= Argue with the heuristics professionals where you'll see.... "
>
... ahahaha... why are you arguing with me still, Wabbie?
Do you value my opinion over and above the mentioned ones in
1 to 8 above?... That would be wabniggering Relativity at its best.
ahahaha... ahahahanson


.-- .- -... -. .. --. @.-----.DOT.-- H. Wabnig

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Mar 28, 2007, 1:45:07 PM3/28/07
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Oh yes, opinions.

Having an opinion is better than having nothing,
but still less valuable than having a cozy, waterproof coat.
A coat keeps you comfortable in bad weather,
whereas opinions are useless, even when you happen
to have many opinions on a subject, not just only one.

Alas, if you are unlucky enough as not having a coat,
or in case someone stole it, or you forgot it somewhere,
then it is a warming idea to have opinions.

For example, Androcles' opinion about Einsteins formula
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/specrel.pdf

(prefer the pdf version)

Androcles says:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/47cc4181eb6470dd
> Wabnigga can't be an engineer, he doesn't know how far it is from
>A to A r how long it takes to get there, and he thinks velocities go
>both ways. An engineer would say
>AB/(tB-tA) = c,
>BA/(t'A-tB) = -c
>or he'd never be able to program a computer.
>Computers know all about minus signs, you can't fool them.
>What Einstein really says is
>AB/(tB-tA) = v-c
>BA/(t'A-tB) = v+c
>and then, being of average cunning, convinces morons that
>that tB is 1/2(t'A-tA).
>See if you can impress Wabnigga with c + (-c) = 0

May I higlight the center point:
>What Einstein really says is
>AB/(tB-tA) = v-c
>BA/(t'A-tB) = v+c
In Androcles' opinion.

Now go up and click on the pdf version and read the original.
Compare both and make up your opinion.

Androcles may have lost his coat or cloak or mantle,
but he does indeed have opinions, and hanson's opinion is
that Androcles must be right, because he (Andro) does have
opinions which he (hanson) wants to share, which would be
impossible with a coat, even with a raincoat mac, whereas
with opinions it's customary to share them.

May the sun shine on you both, you coatless coat stands.
w.

Uncle Al

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Mar 28, 2007, 2:52:32 PM3/28/07
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Mathematics, literacy, and science have been expunged by American
zero-goal education in favor of diversity, compassion, and
fundamentalist Christianity. It is fondly reminiscent of the Dark
Ages except for the Plague (Oops! Got that covered: AIDS and SARS)
and witch burnings (Oops! Got that covered: War on [insert]).

You weren't planning on putting some ferrite inductors up your rectum
and visiting an airport, were you? Smuggling a plutonium-gallium
fission pit through Customs disguised as a Tootsie Pop? Shouting
public obscenities like "democracy," "personal responsiblity," or
"freedom?"

Looking back over the past 60 years Uncle Al suspects the wrong side
won WWII. Aside from some evanescent procedural glitches the losers
had all the good roads, telephones, power distribution, economic
philosophy and reduction to practice, social philosophy, aeronautics,
rocketry, automobiles, patents... and they dressed better. They also
knew more about the USSR in 1943 than four following generations of
American politicians summed.

Would you like to see a War on Drugs drug paraphernalia and Homeland
Severity terrorist weapon of mass destruction?

http://www.sciencekit.com/images/250/62/S6240900.JPG
http://wardsci.com/images/100/172141webM.JPG
<http://www.scitechantiques.com/NOVAJulian/MeltingPoint/03a%20Showing%20ConvectiveFluidFlow.htm>
Thiele-Dennis tube

H. Hope, "Apparatus for growth of crystals for X-ray diffraction
study"
J. Appl. Cryst. 4 333 (1971)

THOU SHALT NOT GROW CRYSTALS IN BUSH THE LESSER'S AMERIKA!

With a 1923 German hyperinflation and unemployment scenario rapidly
ripening in Amerika for the 2008 election ($1 trillion in impossible
mortgages going sour, Iraqi war disaster, Oval Office impeachable
offenses, etc.) we more than likey will get the whip with a stupid,
vicious, and corrupt hand wielding it.

Only one question remains: Will we march into the camps and die like
sheep?

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

Androcles

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Mar 28, 2007, 3:43:21 PM3/28/07
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"H. Wabnig" <.... .-- .- -... -. .. --. @ .- --- -. DOT .- -> wrote in message news:fp8l039kk8qq2mub3...@4ax.com...

You are correct, wabbie, we are coatless coat stands,
totally bare and hiding nothing beneath our invisible cloaks.

You, wabbie, seem to confuse fact with opinion in your delusions.
May I highlight the centre point:


What Einstein really says is
AB/(tB-tA) = v-c
BA/(t'A-tB) = v+c

in his paper which you can read for yourself:
"But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k, when measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v" - Fuckhead Einstein.

Of course the stupid bastard is confused, v doesn't change direction,
c does.

Since you don't know which way the rays are going, may you
shine on the sun.

BioFreak

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Mar 28, 2007, 8:22:14 PM3/28/07
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:52:32 -0800, Uncle Al wrote:

> Mathematics, literacy, and science have been expunged by American
> zero-goal education in favor of diversity, compassion, and
> fundamentalist Christianity. It is fondly reminiscent of the Dark
> Ages except for the Plague (Oops! Got that covered: AIDS and SARS)
> and witch burnings (Oops! Got that covered: War on [insert]).

Your Zio buddies are telling us Iranians we cannot
study physics. Heheh :-)) I don't see you Chosen little
loudmouth objecting to that.


--

"irAni hanuz luleheng nemituneh besAzeh,
chetor mituneh nafto 'pAlAyesh' koneh?"

- Razmara

hanson

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Mar 28, 2007, 8:22:20 PM3/28/07
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ahahahaha... AHAHA... ahahahaha... profusely wabinggering
"H. Wabnig" <.... .-- . -. @ .- --- -. DOT .- -> was crying about his
rain-coat and coat stand (Bad Freudian scene Wabbie!... ahahaha)
to cover his relativity.... ahahahaha... in his message
news:fp8l039kk8qq2mub3...@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
>>ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA.... ahahahaha.... grievously angry
>>"H. Wabnig" <.... .-- @ .- --- -. DOT .- -> wabniggered in message
>>news:f75l03t0cfs3bmf9d...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
>>>>....ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA.... ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA....
>>>>Wabbie aka "H. Wabnig" <.... .-- .- .. --. @ .- --- -. DOT .- -> wrote
>>>>in news:qu2l0312n456br8u8...@4ax.com...
[hanson]

>>... ahahaha... why are you arguing with me still, Wabbie?
>>Do you value my opinion over and above the mentioned ones in
>>1 to 8 above?... That would be wabniggering Relativity at its best.
>>ahahaha... ahahahanson
>>
[Wabnigger]
> Oh yes, opinions. ... May I higlight the center point:

> Having an opinion is better than having nothing,
> but still less valuable than having a cozy, waterproof coat.
> A coat ....coat, ... coat or cloak or mantle, ....a coat,
> even with a raincoat mac,.... coatless coat stands
>
[hanson]
.... AHAHAHA... The obvious highlight of your post seems
to be your preoccupation with raincoats and Kleiderständer...
ahahaha... which must have given yourself a "Ständer" just
by thinking about it. But leaving your Freudian slip aside,
Wabbie, did you finally understand Andro when he administered
to you again so profoundly, wisely and patiently in here?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/4362915b921244c4
See it has nothing to do with your fantasies about relativity having
connections to your penchant for arse-licking, raincoats & "Ständer".
Now, Wabbie stop arguing with Andro or me....and start instead to

=1= Argue with Einstein himself why he was....
=2= Argue with Nobel prize commissioner, Harald Nordensen...
=3= Argue again with Einstein himself who close to ...
=4= Argue with luminaries like Professor Carver A. Mead...
=5= Argue with F.A Hayek, Nobel laureate, who ...
=6= Argue even with the Brits' conservative Royal Society who...
=7= Argue with the higher the learning institutions in Bavaria who,..
=8= Argue with the heuristics professionals where you'll see.... "
all eight detailed in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/47cc4181eb6470dd
Thanks for the laughs, Wabbie, ....ahahaha... ahahahanson

.-- .- -... -. .. --. @.-----.DOT.-- H. Wabnig

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Mar 29, 2007, 2:27:29 AM3/29/07
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It's opinions, opinions, all the way down.

Like a coat protects you from rain, an opinion protects you from
knowledge, or the other way round, having an opinion protects you
from the necessity of learning something.
Nowhere has Androcles shown the calculations which lead him
from Einsteins original paper to the conclusion of the infamous
"division by zero". There is no stringent proof on Andro's pages
how to derive that step by step starting from the original 1905 paper,
and no explanations of how he obtained that weird opinion about the
ZERO. He just states an opinion.

All you find on Andro's pages, are opinions, about this and that.
No exact derivation of the said "division by zero error".

hanson, now go and find the calculations in Andro's pages,
find them, sniff them out, you are profound dingleberry sniffer,
hanson, an easy task for you......

Happy sniffing to hanson and Andro,
w.

Androcles

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Mar 29, 2007, 6:13:12 AM3/29/07
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"H. Wabnig" <.... .-- .- -... -. .. --. @ .- --- -. DOT .- -> wrote in message news:g6mm03lumv2adrfgg...@4ax.com...

Hey wabfat! In your highly esteemed and dignified steaming
fuckheaded opinion -- the condensation from which is dripping
down your raincoat -- how far is it from A to A?

hanson

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Mar 29, 2007, 12:09:59 PM3/29/07
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ahahahaha... Relativity craziness and tears from Einstein Dingleberry
Raincoat-"Helmut. Wabnig" who keeps steadfast wabiggering instead
of reading =1= to =8= <.... .-- .- @ .- --- -. DOT .- -> wrote in
message news:g6mm03lumv2adrfgg...@4ax.com...
[Wabbie]

> It's opinions, opinions, all the way down.
> Like a coat protects you from rain, an opinion protects you from
> knowledge, or the other way round, having an opinion protects you
> from the necessity of learning something.
>
[hanson]
Wabbie, so Einstein has "opinions, all the way down"... That's right,
Wabbie. Now, learn something, from Einstein himself, about his
"opinions, all the way down", especially in =1= and =3=
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/47cc4181eb6470dd

=1= Argue with Einstein himself why he was....
=2= Argue with Nobel prize commissioner, Harald Nordensen...
=3= Argue again with Einstein himself who close to ...
=4= Argue with luminaries like Professor Carver A. Mead...
=5= Argue with F.A Hayek, Nobel laureate, who ...
=6= Argue even with the Brits' conservative Royal Society who...
=7= Argue with the higher the learning institutions in Bavaria who,..
=8= Argue with the heuristics professionals where you'll see.... "
HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU HAVE TO BE SHOWN =1= to =8=?

...Now if you still can't see it then don't argue with Andro or me.
>
[Wabbie]

> Nowhere has Androcles shown the calculations which lead him
> from Einsteins original paper to the conclusion of the infamous
> "division by zero". There is no stringent proof on Andro's pages
> how to derive that step by step starting from the original 1905 paper,
> and no explanations of how he obtained that weird opinion about the
> ZERO. He just states an opinion.
> All you find on Andro's pages, are opinions, about this and that.
> No exact derivation of the said "division by zero error".
> hanson, now go and find the calculations in Andro's pages,
> find them, sniff them out, you are profound dingleberry sniffer,
> hanson, an easy task for you......
> Happy sniffing to hanson and Andro,
> w.
>
[hanson]
Why do you keep arguing with Andro and me?... Argue =1= to =8=
All your well-wishes, Raincoat-Wabbie, do simply show that you
are damaged goods, a hopeless Einstein Dingleberry that still
has not gotten it, despite Andro's profoundly wise and patient
administering to you in these tow items
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/4362915b921244c4
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/14feebb01b92dd6c
Worse, you Einstein Dingleberry-Wabnig, you won't even listen to
your own idol Albert himself, where he distinctly instructed you in
=1= & =3= what he, Einstein your role model, thought about the
situation. But you know better in your blind fanaticism & you simply
move closer to your master's sphincter... just like you did with Adolf,
staying blind, fanatical and being a devoted disciple... ahahaha....
>
Now, if you still can't see it then don't argue with Andro or me.
Wabbie, learn something, from Einstein himself. Look, it said in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/47cc4181eb6470dd

=1= Argue with Einstein himself why he was....
=2= Argue with Nobel prize commissioner, Harald Nordensen...
=3= Argue again with Einstein himself who close to ...
=4= Argue with luminaries like Professor Carver A. Mead...
=5= Argue with F.A Hayek, Nobel laureate, who ...
=6= Argue even with the Brits' conservative Royal Society who...
=7= Argue with the higher the learning institutions in Bavaria who,..
=8= Argue with the heuristics professionals where you'll see.... "
>
You continuing refusal to argue with =1= to =8= implies that you
believe deep down that THEY, even Einstein himself, are pissing on
you, Wabbie. Your fears are justified... ahahahahaha... Your raincoat
notion may well be an unconscious scheme that you conjured up for
yourself to protect yourself from the hard and real world which you
are refusing to be aware of and much less to accept... ahahahaha...
Again, thanks for the laughs, Helmut.... ahahaha... ahahahanson


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When Androcles and hanson stand back-by-back
it's ZERO from Ass to Ass, according to Androcles relativity,
hahahaha....

w.

Androcles

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"H. Wabnig" <.... .-- .- -... -. .. --. @ .- --- -. DOT .- -> wrote in message news:8ssn031ai9fk8onoh...@4ax.com...


Did I say anything about relativity, fuckhead?
But anyway, your complaint that I did not give a rigorous proof
has now been answered. According to Wagnigga, the distance
from A to A is ZERO.
I'll now leave hanson to continue laughing at the fuckheaded
dingleberry you are, hahahaha, and place your stupid name
back where it belongs, on my killfile.
*plonk*
hahahaha


.-- .- -... -. .. --. @.-----.DOT.-- H. Wabnig

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Mar 29, 2007, 2:22:00 PM3/29/07
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:09:59 GMT, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:

>............


>Now, if you still can't see it then don't argue with Andro or me.
>Wabbie, learn something, from Einstein himself. Look, it said in
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/47cc4181eb6470dd
>=1= Argue with Einstein himself why he was....
>=2= Argue with Nobel prize commissioner, Harald Nordensen...
>=3= Argue again with Einstein himself who close to ...
>=4= Argue with luminaries like Professor Carver A. Mead...
>=5= Argue with F.A Hayek, Nobel laureate, who ...
>=6= Argue even with the Brits' conservative Royal Society who...
>=7= Argue with the higher the learning institutions in Bavaria who,..
>=8= Argue with the heuristics professionals where you'll see.... "
>>
>You continuing refusal to argue with =1= to =8= implies that you
>believe deep down that THEY, even Einstein himself, are pissing on
>you, Wabbie. Your fears are justified... ahahahahaha... Your raincoat
>notion may well be an unconscious scheme that you conjured up for
>yourself to protect yourself from the hard and real world which you
>are refusing to be aware of and much less to accept... ahahahaha...
>Again, thanks for the laughs, Helmut.... ahahaha... ahahahanson

Somewhere up the thread....there was a different list...
hanson arguing that engineers don't need relativity.
An old favourite of hanson, actually.

Nice idea to design a particle accelerator without relativity.
hanson, there are -how many- accelerators around the world?
And they were not designed by engineers?
By whom then?

w.

hanson

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Mar 29, 2007, 6:23:22 PM3/29/07
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ahahaha <.... .-- .- -... -. .. --. @ .- --- -. DOT .- -> wrote in message
news:fm0o03hsli8nbrdrp...@4ax.com again about
his relativity craziness & tears from Einstein Dingleberry Raincoat-
"Helmut. Wabnig" who keeps steadfast on wabiggering instead
of reading =1= to =8= and who now weasels out and takes issue
with the community at large in =8= ... after "hanson"
<han...@quick.net> told Wabbie for the 4th time....
>>............
[hanson]

>>Now, if you still can't see it then don't argue with Andro or me.
>>Wabbie, learn something, from Einstein himself. Look, it said in
>>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/47cc4181eb6470dd
>>=1= Argue with Einstein himself why he was....
>>=2= Argue with Nobel prize commissioner, Harald Nordensen...
>>=3= Argue again with Einstein himself who close to ...
>>=4= Argue with luminaries like Professor Carver A. Mead...
>>=5= Argue with F.A Hayek, Nobel laureate, who ...
>>=6= Argue even with the Brits' conservative Royal Society who...
>>=7= Argue with the higher the learning institutions in Bavaria who,..
>>=8= Argue with the heuristics professionals where you'll see.... "
>>>
>>You continuing refusal to argue with =1= to =8= implies that you
>>believe deep down that THEY, even Einstein himself, are pissing on
>>you, Wabbie. Your fears are justified... ahahahahaha... Your raincoat
>>notion may well be an unconscious scheme that you conjured up for
>>yourself to protect yourself from the hard and real world which you
>>are refusing to be aware of and much less to accept... ahahahaha...
>>Again, thanks for the laughs, Helmut.... ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
[wabbie]

> Somewhere up the thread....there was a different list...
> hanson arguing that engineers don't need relativity.
> An old favourite of hanson, actually.
> Nice idea to design a particle accelerator without relativity.
> hanson, there are -how many- accelerators around the world?
> And they were not designed by engineers?
> By whom then?
> w.
>
[hanson]
First things Frist. We are not discussing engineers vs. physicists.
And even if we were then you don't understand that real physicists
are experimenters whose activities consist to 99% of engineering.
Your ignorance is bigger than your raincoat- and your ass-fixation,
Wabbie, because of your Einstein Dingleberrism.... ahahahaha...

Google in my archive for the SST, the biggest accelerator that was
under construction, wherefore I had won several bids for the design,
production and installation of the beam-guide channels.
There was nothing in the call-out, prints nor specs that had even
a hint of relativity... despite the insinuation by you who has never
even been at an accelerator site and much less in one... ahahaha...
Face it, Wabbie, your "physics" is limited to your highschool pulpit
& Google... ahahaha.. Hey, Wabbie,... no shame in that... ahaha...
>
Wabbie listen: Real physicists' work consists of **measuring**
events, be that in constructing measuring-gismos or -events,... and
NO measuring procedure or -operation has anything to do with any
relativity. Measuring is a simple activity that will produce a result that
says: This process/event/item is "x" times the size of a chosen
measuring unit-standard, the meter, kg or second, or combinations
thereof, expressing fundamental constants... NONE of which has
anything to do with relativity.
>
Only later on in the game are the measured results given to the story
tellers, the theoreticians, who "fiddle" with the experimental results,
as you can see in the "list" that you were referring to ... wherein you
also can see that relativity produces absolutely NOTHING of real
world/tangible value, except a story for Einstein Dingleberries, like
you, who marvel in the fairy tale and become fanatical to the point
where they get ass-fixations and raincoat fetishes like you have.
... ahaha... The theoreticians produce stories that are welcome aids
for salesmen who sell their engineered items to Einstein Dingleberries
like you, whom they charge an extra fee for the "relativity" in it ...
ahahaha...
This is a universal, ancient & familiar game plan that has been shown
to you for years now and you still don't get it.. But here it is again for
your benefit, you poor, poor sod:
>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/47cc4181eb6470dd
wherein it says: subject: Andro --> Einstein <-- Wabbie
Re: Andro Explain it to Wabbie --- was Re: Are h's equations right?
"Androcles" <Engi...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> wrote:
c = 2AB/(t'A-tA) = 0/0 --- EINSTEIN 1905.
>>>>
[Wabbie to Andro]
I always wonder why you, Andro, consider that being 0/0,
especially why you set ( t'-t) = 0
>
[hanson to Wabbie]
So you cannot see Andro's point that "if the [1905] introduction
[by Einstein] is wrong then all that follows is total crap".
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
Let's be clear, Andro is not having issues with the hyperbolic/cosh
geometry/math itself, but how Einstein used and applied it to
physics. Andro rightfully questions the wrongful & questionable
application thereof by Einstein and his Dingleberries.
>
Now, Wabbie, instead of you doubting Andro, by placing your
argument below against his reasoning, bypass that and do take
another route:
>
Try to see, for your own benefit, the candle that Andro has lit
by using "reverse engineering". Start off with the Einstein
t & l equations [(t' = t*sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) etc] and then work'em
backwards until can finally see that 0/0 phenomena to occur.
>
Too boot, Andro has shown an even more convincing example for
the failure of experimental proof/validation/verification for SR in
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/MC2.htm , wherein
he shows that all those carefully selected & manicured experiments
were ordained to come out "right" because all the measurements
do fall by design/intent into the limits within the experimental error.
>
Now if you still can't see it then don't argue with Andro or me.

=1= Argue with Einstein himself why he was, as early as 1920,
when Einstein's star was meteorically raising, already telling and
urging physicists that they.. "should NOT search at the same,
now well lit places, where he, Einstein, had been working".

=2= Argue with Nobel prize commissioner, Harald Nordensen who
wrote in 1922: "I maintain that whosoever from now upholds the
relativistic ideas or applies the fundamental relativistic formulae as
representing relations between physical quantities, without regarding
and refuting my criticism of the Theory, makes himself liable to the
accusation of grave intellectual laxity."

=3= Argue again with Einstein himself who close to the end of his
life in 1954 said to Besso:
"I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based
on the field concept, i. e., on continuous structures. In that
case nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation
theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics." -- A.E.

=4= Argue with luminaries like Professor Carver A. Mead of
Caltech (a student of Richard Feynman) , who said ca 2000:
"It is my firm belief that the last seven decades of the 20th century
will be characterized in history as the dark ages of physics."

=5= Argue with F.A Hayek, Nobel laureate, who said: "In the future,
Humanity will see in our Epoch an Era of superstition, essentially
associated with the names of Marx, Freud and Einstein"

=6= Argue even with the Brits' conservative Royal Society who

at the end 2005 has voted Einstein out and favors Newton...

=7= Argue with the higher the learning institutions in Bavaria who,

since 1996, made SR/GR no longer a compulsory, mandatory
subject to study physics.

=8= Argue with the heuristics professionals where you'll see that
== mil/indust. Eng, R&D....................."does not need REL shit"
== *.edu & and grantology ................"does need REL - No shit"
== Promo, Sales & Movies..............."loves REL by the shitload"
== Jews protect it as cultural heritage whether "REL is shit or not".

The "demography" in =8= shows you that when direct practical
results are the expected out-put, as in mil/indust. Eng, -R&D, then
REL has NOT found to be of any use. -- Experiment reigns supreme
in mil/indust. Eng, -R&D. ... Read: "Here we measure, punk" in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/ad48928a25976b2b
>
OTOH, in the latter 3 fields of endeavors in =8= where REL is the
object of the subject (= story-telling) NO direct practical pay-off is
expected from REL, and it is here where REL shows now its uncanny
ability to stir up emotions in the participants, just like any other story
telling object/subject does, from news-at-eleven to gospel recitation.
So, just like in politics and religion REL produces camps of disciples
and infidels.. and the wars are on... with all sides insisting that only
they are right... Do you begin to see the pix?

The underlying operative reason for the discord is simple. Said story-
telling and SR/GR do focus on/about relative positions of the participants,
their frames of reference.... and we all know that if some-one talks about
your position in a way that is different from your own, you do feel
offended, you become defensive and the wars are on... supported and
aggravated by the fact that there are innumerable positions and frames
of reference from or about which a story can be told, .... which is what
Andro had explained in his short and cunning algebraic picture about the
0/0 phenomenon..
Do you begin to see the pix, now? ... and why everybody calls everybody
else "crank", wherein the REL crank-callers are being the prime cranks.

GR is even worse of a con then is SR, because it is nothing but circular
dance and playing around with Newton's revered G. As long as Einstein
uses Newton's G in his equations he carries with him , unavoidably, all the
baggage, the short comings and defects attributed to Newton's G that
REL is trying to get (unsuccessfully) rid of.

So GR = BFD .... and it doesn't change that fact no matter how much
they twist and convolute the situation with frame dragging, matrices or
barks & repeats of "GPS works", like loudmouthed fanatic-Al does.
Nor does it matter how many Einstein Dinglerry-come-latelies do write
lengthy Ashby type treatises decades later in the hope to garnish some
irrational fame with/from REL. All of them will remain by definition under
the towering influence and governing hand of Newton and his G from
which they so far have tried to escape in absolute, not relative, vain...
So the only truly positive fact is that they TRY to ESCAPE. That's good.
ahahaha... ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
[snip]
>
[Wabbie]
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
> IN NONE WE TRUST.
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>
[hanson]
The above last 3 lines are the best ones in your post, Wabbie.
Correct: It's $$$$$$$-money that talks --- but bullshit walks....
Correct too, "IN NONE WE TRUST" as it was already said some
26 centuries ago by Gautamo Buddha who did put it this way:
== Do not believe simply because you have heard it.
== Do not believe because it is written in your books.
== Do not believe in the authority of your teachers and elders.
== Do not believe in traditions that were handed down for generations.
== Believe only what you yourself do judge to be true."
>
Now, Wabbie, go back to the start of this post. Have fun and argue
with =1= to =8= instead of me. But thanks for the fun, guy.
ahahaha... ahahahanson


Androcles

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Hey hanson! You do realize the wabber-nigger is doing a Dork Van,
craving attention? This is a common trait among unloved children.
http://www.clevelandclinic.org/health/health-info/docs/2800/2821.asp?index=9833

As you can clearly see, both feign a real mental illness, and do not
be taken in by any feigned claim of being an engineer.

To wabber-nigger:
Hanson's analysis is worth recording, oh Not Insane Generally Worthy Analytical Body (NIGWAB)
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wabnigga_saga.htm

"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message news:u%WOh.10173$yo3.280@trnddc04...

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wabnigga_saga.htm

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