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Red Diamond

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May 6, 2008, 10:16:54 AM5/6/08
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I have read here that LHC will likely change earth into some black hole.
So I was wondering how to best prepare for that,
and making a list of things I should bring.
I've heard light does not leave such a hole, so probably a small
flashlight will suffice, as the light will stay around.
Bread and butter, will be compressed too? So I need water.
What else should one bring, and how long before this hole evaporates
and things get normal again?
Evaporation cools things down, so I need winter clothing too?

Red

Uncle Al

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May 6, 2008, 1:52:49 PM5/6/08
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Red Diamond wrote:
>
> I have read here that LHC will likely change earth into some black hole.
> So I was wondering how to best prepare for that,
[snip crap]

Carnations are the only possible defense - lots and lots of
carnations. Next week it will be peonies, then ranunculus.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

Sam Wormley

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May 6, 2008, 3:18:52 PM5/6/08
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Red Diamond wrote:
> I have read here that LHC will likely change earth into some black hole.
> So I was wondering how to best prepare for that...

Start by getting a better education.

o The energy that can be supplied to a collision by the Large
Hadron Collider (LHC) is a piffle, compared to similar collision
(cosmic rays) taking place over your head right here right now.
Cosmic Ray energies range from five to ten orders of magnitude
greater than the maximum energy that can be pumped into a collision
in the LHC.

o There is evidence that a black hole has been created in particle
accelerators in the past. Low mass black holes have an exceedingly
short lifetime. t = m^3/(1.194 x 10^16 kg^3/s)

o There is no possibility to pump enough energy into a black hole
to have any substantial mass.

o There is no way to create a black hole in a laboratory that can
sustain itself.

hanson

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May 6, 2008, 4:38:03 PM5/6/08
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"Sam Wormley" <swor...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:wa2Uj.98477$TT4.72155@attbi_s22...

>
Red Diamond wrote:
>> I have read here that LHC will likely change earth into some black hole.
>> So I was wondering how to best prepare for that...
>
"Sam Wormley" <swor...@mchsi.com> wrote

> Start by getting a better education.
>
> o The energy that can be supplied to a collision by the Large
> Hadron Collider (LHC) is a piffle, compared to similar collision
> (cosmic rays) taking place over your head right here right now.
> Cosmic Ray energies range from five to ten orders of magnitude
> greater than the maximum energy that can be pumped into a collision
> in the LHC.
>
> o There is evidence that a black hole has been created in particle
> accelerators in the past. Low mass black holes have an exceedingly
> short lifetime. t = m^3/(1.194 x 10^16 kg^3/s)
>
> o There is no possibility to pump enough energy into a black hole
> to have any substantial mass.
>
> o There is no way to create a black hole in a laboratory that can
> sustain itself.
>
hanson wrote:
I haven't dug into this thread... nor into your "better
education" bit. But this here jumped into my eye:
.... "lifetime. t = m^3/(1.194 x 10^16 kg^3/s)"
... So, time has a dimension of (m^3/kg^3) * sec?
Now, by all means, give us a better education...
Thanks for the laughs.... ahahaha.... ahahahnson


PD

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May 6, 2008, 5:32:12 PM5/6/08
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Best thing would be some negative mass exotic matter monofilament. If
it should happen that a wormhole opens, chucking the end of the
filament into the hole (which is to say, anywhere, once you're inside
the horizon) will keep the wormhole open.

I would take a football helmet, too, because if the wormhole is also a
time machine, you are likely to collide with yourself at some point,
and the collision will bonk you into the wormhole.

The good news is that you can probably forgo taking stationery and
stamps.

PD

mitch.nico...@gmail.com

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May 6, 2008, 5:39:04 PM5/6/08
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If you bring a clock it won't register time. But Black Holes have been
disproven anyway.

Mitch Raemsch

Eric Gisse

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May 6, 2008, 6:20:51 PM5/6/08
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On May 6, 9:52 am, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> Red Diamond wrote:
>
> > I have read here that LHC will likely change earth into some black hole.
> > So I was wondering how to best prepare for that,
>
> [snip crap]
>
> Carnations are the only possible defense - lots and lots of
> carnations.  Next week it will be peonies, then ranunculus.

What about rhododendrons?

>
> --
> Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/

Uncle Al

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May 6, 2008, 6:46:24 PM5/6/08
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Eric Gisse wrote:
>
> On May 6, 9:52 am, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> > Red Diamond wrote:
> >
> > > I have read here that LHC will likely change earth into some black hole.
> > > So I was wondering how to best prepare for that,
> >
> > [snip crap]
> >
> > Carnations are the only possible defense - lots and lots of
> > carnations. Next week it will be peonies, then ranunculus.
>
> What about rhododendrons?

Did you ever try to root a rhodo? It's easier ta start from callus
culture, then Homeland Severity gets you for terrorist horticulture,

http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/homesec.jpg

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Uncle Al

Androcles

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May 6, 2008, 6:55:13 PM5/6/08
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"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
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HAHAHAHA!
Okay, I'll teach.
'Really, this is what is meant by the Fourth Dimension, though some people
who talk about the Fourth Dimension do not know they mean it. It is only
another way of looking at Time. There is no difference between Time and any
of the three dimensions of Space except that our consciousness moves along
with it.' -- Herbert George Wells - "The Time Machine" - 1895.

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --Einstein

(Baez crackpot index # 23 -- 20 pts.)

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html


d....@hotmail.com

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May 6, 2008, 7:44:43 PM5/6/08
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On May 6, 1:38 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
> "Sam Wormley" <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote in message

>
> news:wa2Uj.98477$TT4.72155@attbi_s22...
>
> Red Diamond wrote:
> >> I have read here that LHC will likely change earth into some black hole.
> >> So I was wondering how to best prepare for that...
>
> "Sam Wormley" <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote

>
>
>
> >   Start by getting a better education.
>
> >    o The energy that can be supplied to a collision by the Large
> >      Hadron Collider (LHC) is a piffle, compared to similar collision
> >      (cosmic rays) taking place over your head right here right now.
> >      Cosmic Ray energies range from five to ten orders of magnitude
> >      greater than the maximum energy that can be pumped into a collision
> >      in the LHC.
>
> >    o There is evidence that a black hole has been created in particle
> >      accelerators in the past. Low mass black holes have an exceedingly
> >      short lifetime.  t = m^3/(1.194 x 10^16 kg^3/s)
>
> >    o There is no possibility to pump enough energy into a black hole
> >      to have any substantial mass.
>
> >    o There is no way to create a black hole in a laboratory that can
> >      sustain itself.
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> I haven't dug into this thread... nor into your "better
> education" bit. But this here jumped into my eye:
> .... "lifetime.  t = m^3/(1.194 x 10^16 kg^3/s)"
> ... So, time has a dimension of (m^3/kg^3) * sec?
> Now, by all means, give us a better education...
> Thanks for the laughs.... ahahaha.... ahahahnson- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

When mass is measured in kilograms, the equation is dimensionally
correct.

Sam Wormley

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May 6, 2008, 7:56:13 PM5/6/08
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Well at least Ha Ha Hanson got in a laugh before he got embarrassed.

Igor

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May 6, 2008, 8:10:45 PM5/6/08
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On May 6, 1:52 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> Red Diamond wrote:
>
> > I have read here that LHC will likely change earth into some black hole.
> > So I was wondering how to best prepare for that,
>
> [snip crap]
>
> Carnations are the only possible defense - lots and lots of
> carnations.  Next week it will be peonies, then ranunculus.
>
> --
> Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/

>  (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

I understand that skunk cabbage does a good job at keeping black holes
at bay. See how well it's worked so far?

Eric Gisse

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May 6, 2008, 10:29:11 PM5/6/08
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On May 6, 2:46 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> Eric Gisse wrote:
>
> > On May 6, 9:52 am, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> > > Red Diamond wrote:
>
> > > > I have read here that LHC will likely change earth into some black hole.
> > > > So I was wondering how to best prepare for that,
>
> > > [snip crap]
>
> > > Carnations are the only possible defense - lots and lots of
> > > carnations.  Next week it will be peonies, then ranunculus.
>
> > What about rhododendrons?
>
> Did you ever try to root a rhodo?  It's easier ta start from callus
> culture, then Homeland Severity gets you for terrorist horticulture,

The rhododendron has a spirit that can not be crushed.

>
> http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/homesec.jpg
>
> --
> Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/

hanson

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May 6, 2008, 10:44:30 PM5/6/08
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"Sam Wormley" <swor...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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d....@hotmail.com wrote:
>> When mass is measured in kilograms, the equation is dimensionally
>> correct.
>
"Sam Wormley" <swor...@mchsi.com>

> Well at least Ha Ha Hanson got in a laugh before he got embarrassed.
>
hanson wrote:
so then, your time now has the dimension of m^3 or m^3/kg^2
AHAHAHA.... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha....
Now we have two mooches who are a weaseling, the same
two who really should "Start getting a better education".
Thanks for the laughs you 2 embarrassing fools, for trying to
proselytize your "News Group physics"... ahahanson


The Ghost In The Machine

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May 9, 2008, 11:43:49 AM5/9/08
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In sci.physics, Uncle Al
<Uncl...@hate.spam.net>
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on Tue, 06 May 2008 15:46:24 -0700
<4820DFBF...@hate.spam.net>:

> Eric Gisse wrote:
>>
>> On May 6, 9:52 am, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
>> > Red Diamond wrote:
>> >
>> > > I have read here that LHC will likely change earth into some black hole.
>> > > So I was wondering how to best prepare for that,
>> >
>> > [snip crap]
>> >
>> > Carnations are the only possible defense - lots and lots of
>> > carnations. Next week it will be peonies, then ranunculus.
>>
>> What about rhododendrons?
>
> Did you ever try to root a rhodo? It's easier ta start from callus
> culture, then Homeland Severity gets you for terrorist horticulture,
>
> http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/homesec.jpg
>

And here I thought there was a service called Rhodo Rooters, who wander
around and fix gardens....wait, that can't be right...

I'd better stay (chrysanthe)mum on this, lest it branch off and
take root ...

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Bob Cain

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Jun 2, 2008, 12:38:29 AM6/2/08
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Uncle Al wrote:

> http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/homesec.jpg
>

*Every* intersection with stop lights in Santa Cruz, CA now has multiple cameras
pointing along each road's entrance and its exit. Is that surveillance?

Is this becoming true everywhere in the USA? (I don't get around much anymore.)


Bob
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"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler."

A. Einstein

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