Right Again, Einstein
Sam Wormley
http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/703/2
By Phil Berardelli
ScienceNOW Daily News
3 July 2008
As if his reputation needed cementing, astronomers have confirmed Albert Einstein's status
as a supergenius once more. Studying a unique pair of pulsars--small and extremely dense
leftovers from supernova explosions--researchers have measured an effect that was
predicted by Einstein's 92-year-old general theory of relativity. The result, they report
tomorrow in Science, is almost exactly what the famous physicist had foreseen.
In Einstein's relativistic universe, matter curves space and slows down time, and the
speed of light remains the only constant. But those are the big effects. The theory of
relativity also includes some more esoteric details, one of which is called spin
precession. The idea goes like this: Two massive bodies orbiting near each other will warp
space enough to disturb the central axis around which both are moving, causing them to
begin wobbling just like spinning tops. Strong gravity creates this so-called precession,
and the more massive the objects, the easier the precession is to observe.
See: http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/703/2
Spaceman
> In Einstein's relativistic universe, matter curves space and slows
> down time, and the speed of light remains the only constant.
Yes, light is magic and the waves that travel at c don't slow
time at all.
LOL
--
James M Driscoll Jr
Spaceman
Spaceman
> Sam Wormley wrote:
>> In Einstein's relativistic universe, matter curves space and slows
>> down time, and the speed of light remains the only constant.
>
> Yes, light is magic and the waves that travel at c don't slow
> time at all.
> LOL
Oh ya.
and the speed 186,000 mps is not realtive ever because
that goofs up the entire constantness about it.
Tom Potter
"Sam Wormley" <swor...@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:ULebk.237197$yE1.180403@attbi_s21...
Sam raises a good point
when he demonstrates that ignorant people in the media
parrot conventional wisdom and promote Urban Science Legends.
As Sam demonstrates
Phil Berardelli, the ScienceNOW Daily News parrot,
makes a number of wild connections,
and does not provide valid mathematical proof of the connections.
Rational, intelligent folks would tend to ask
the following questions:
1. How much is "almost"?
2. Do other models have a smaller "almost"?
3 "Exactly" where did Einstein "exactly" predict the observed effect,
and what numbers and equation did Einstein use in his model to predict the effect?
4. Where does Einstein differentiate between the affects of "massive bodies"
and "near enough"?
It is sad,
NO!, it is a crime against science
that people like Phil Berardelli,
continue to parrot the Urban Legend that
"matter slows down time"
when the fact of the matter is that
time is what THE ONE standard clock indicates,
and that time units are derived from THE ONE
oscillator used to drive the accumulator
that is the clock.
There is one master oscillator, and one master clock,
and ALL other so-called clocks are INSTRUMENTS,
not clocks.
The goal of science is to organize all events
on the minimum number of
linear (Identical increments),
orthogonal dimensions (Uncontaminated by other dimensions).
As Maxwell pointed out when he developed "Dimensional Analysis",
the standard that ALL physics models MUST conform to,
all physical properties can be pointed to using
a standard "time period",
three orthogonal "time intervals" (Spaces)
and one mass.
And as Planck showed that one mass
is a function of standard, quantum units of "action".
It is sad,
NO! IT is a crime that ignorant people in the media
continue to promote rubber clocks and rulers,
that necessitate an infinite number of "continuous orthogonals"
rather than the six quantum orthogonals that Maxwell
described so well over 150 years ago.
It appears that General Relativity is more
of a "Tower of Babel"
than a useful, efficient, viable model of reality,
as it wastes time, money and minds on such pursuits
as the beginning and end of time,
time travel, warping through space, black holes,
gravitons, dragging space around,
infinite orthogonalities, etc.
I suggest that the people who have been duped
to waste billions of the taxpayers dollars to
promote General Relativity, should think about
what that money could do if it were spent
on using the DNA model to improve health,
on the environment, fight crime, organized history, etc.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
--
Tom Potter
http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html
http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com
http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com
http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos
Eric Gisse
[snip ignorant prattle]
Be useful for a change. Travel to Guangzhao and tell them to stop
making shitty fireworks.
Spaceman
Well stated Tom.
It is very sad they have a model based upon such multiple "VARIABLE"
standards of distance and time.
Some day their tower will fall, until then, only the non brainwashed
will see the tower is falling.
:)
--
James M Driscoll Jr
Spaceman
:)
Uncle Al
http://www.physics.mcgill.ca/~bretonr/doublepulsar/
--
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http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
srp...@gmail.com
> Right Again, Einstein
> http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/703/2
>
> By Phil Berardelli
> ScienceNOW Daily News
> 3 July 2008
>
> As if his reputation needed cementing, astronomers have confirmed Albert Einstein's status
> as a supergenius once more. Studying a unique pair of pulsars--small and extremely dense
> leftovers from supernova explosions--researchers have measured an effect that was
> predicted by Einstein's 92-year-old general theory of relativity. The result, they report
> tomorrow in Science, is almost exactly what the famous physicist had foreseen.
Has anyone noted the "almost" in the last sentence ?
The usual seed planted to induce more grant grease to flow in from
ignorant
politics for yet more useless research leading nowhere on stuff
rehashed
umpteen times generating more papers also containing the "almost"
keyword.
A well greased grant generating Einstein compliant machine meant to
build
carriers on actually doing nothing to advance fundamental research.
André Michaud
hanson
news:a90728ea-3188-47e3...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
On 3 juil, 21:10, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> Right Again, Einstein
> http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/703/2
>
> By Phil Berardelli
> ScienceNOW Daily News
> 3 July 2008
>
> As if his reputation needed cementing, astronomers have confirmed
> Albert Einstein's status as a supergenius once more. Studying a
> unique pair of pulsars--small and extremely dense leftovers from
> supernova explosions--researchers have measured an effect
> that was predicted by Einstein's 92-year-old general theory of
> relativity. The result, they report tomorrow in Science, is
>>
André Michaud wrote:
Has anyone noted the "almost" in the last sentence ?
>
The usual seed planted to induce more grant grease to flow in from
ignorant politics for yet more useless research leading nowhere on
stuff rehashed umpteen times generating more papers also containing
the "almost" keyword.
A well greased grant generating Einstein compliant machine meant to
build carriers on actually doing nothing to advance fundamental research.
>
hanson wrote:
Einstein's Dingleberries are die hards because they hope that
they will get ***fame by association*** and earn a fortune ...
ahahaha...
Meanwhile, in the real world, here is where Einstein's crap
is still used and where they laugh about it:
>
= mil/indust. Eng, R&D....................."does not need REL shit"
= *.edu and grantology ...................."does use REL, No shit"
= Promo, Sales & Movies..............."loves REL by the shitload"
= Jews protect it as cultural heritage whether "REL is shit or not".
>
Thanks for the laughs, Michaud. Don't get any hemmies over it.
That is the purview of the Einstein Dingleberries...ahahaha...
... ahahahanson
hanson
http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/703/2
wherein it syas
As if his reputation needed cementing, astronomers have confirmed
**** almost*** exactly what the famous physicist had foreseen.
>
hanson wrote:
Yeas, but only **** almost***.... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
>
Besides all that can be explained much more **accurately** by
normal Newtonian physics, except it is not as sexy thyat way....
which is why Einstein's Dingleberries use Albert's platform and
are die hards because they hope that they will earn and get
***fame by association***... ahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...
>
Meanwhile, in the real world, here is where Einstein's crap
is still used and where they laugh about it:
>
= mil/indust. Eng, R&D....................."does not need REL shit"
= *.edu and grantology ...................."does use REL, No shit"
= Promo, Sales & Movies..............."loves REL by the shitload"
= Jews protect it as cultural heritage whether "REL is shit or not".
>
G=EMC^2 Glazier
Androcles
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
news:hbubk.446$4a3.191@trnddc04...
Not only that, but notice all these fucking pulsars always come in
pairs ever since Hulse and Taylor cheated the Nobel Committee
out of a few krone.
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1993/press.html
hanson
Jewish comminity:.. There you are badmouthing again yet
you are not even able to spell "Einstein" right.... ahahaha...
>
hanson wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/233b18e6f46238f0?hl=en
which was about where & why SR/&GR is used in the real
world about which for quite bizarre reason in his own mind....
>
Hebie Herbie "G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net>
news:25766-486...@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net...
a true blossom of Jewish wisdom and character,
presented himself in his natural environment
< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O9W3UsdRyM >
or in < http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f >
and Hebie Herbie said
"Hanson Your bigot mind only makes you a laughing hyena. Bert"
>
ahahahaha... That only seems to be this way because you are
religiously handicapped and never able to stop yourself from
bad-mouthing, like you admitted here yourself when the Sheriff
came to get you, ... ahahahaha...:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/b19435c22aac91c1
>
"Trust me!", Hebie Herbie, "Go figure"... L'Chaim, Shalom!...
and thanks for the laughs you splendid loud-mouthing olde kacker.
ahahaha.... hahahahanson
>
hhc...@yahoo.com
Sam, no confirmation of the genius of this guy is really needed. In
physics, Einstein is the singular guy living during the 20th century
that stands shoulder to shoulder with Newton, and Maxwell.
The reason that physicists award him this stature is diffult to exlain
to laymen lacking a physics education. By closest connection with
Newton was once I was allowed to hold an original edition of his
Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica in my gloved hands for
about 2-hours while locked in the vault of my undergraduate college
library. (Here, physics majors were required to translate on chapter
from Latin to contemporary English.) It was with trembling hands an
very poor latin that I completed this required assignment, with my
latin pony at my side. My hands trembled because I realized that the
age of 20, I was holding in my hands the very basis of modern
civilization. Only the Magna Carta has more historical importance than
does the Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica by Newton.
I've never had a chance to converse with Albert Einstein, but I did
pass by him on the streets of Princeton, NJ more than once. I was a
small child, possibly 8 at that time, but I even then knew that he was
regarded as a great scientist. It was only later that I really
realized how great this guy really was! Sometimes his sister or
another female was with him, but usually he was alone. I remember that
as a kid I really though that this guy needed a haircut, but as a kid
I remember him simply as another old guy, but he was always nice to us
kids, but he did have that rather strange accent when he spoke. Turned
out later that it was German. I later learned that he lived in a
small home on Mercer Street in the Borough of Princeton, without any
security, and would often take the local kids into his home at
instruct them on the basics of physics in terms that they could
comprhend.
OK, sufficient memories.
As everyone know who has studed Einstein, he had an ability to reduce
the most complex physical theories down to the level of an 8th grader,
without loosing any of the primary concepts. At least I am so tild by
the lucky kids in Princeton that had Albert Einstein as a math or
physics tutor.
When I later attend college, it was only then that I realize the
importance of the contributions to the science that this man had made.
He essentially was the transition point between classical physics and
modern physics.
As I have said, Einstein was a master at convening to laymen the
nature of his theories. I really to today know of no theory that
cannot be consensed down to the level that an 8th grader cannot
comprehend. Albert Einstein was very gifted at knowing how to do that,
beginning with his railway car examples of special relativity.
What many lay readers do not know, it that Einstein never published a
theory of General Relativity, At the time of his death, it was
incomplete.
Harry C.
Sam, that's the real story.