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Sam Wormley

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Sep 6, 2012, 11:10:03 AM9/6/12
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Climate change and wildfire: How vulnerable are we?
> http://thebulletin.org/web-edition/features/climate-change-and-wildfire-how-vulnerable-are-we

Article Highlights

Wildfire's impacts on the electricity transmission grid, water and food
supplies, and other aspects of everyday life are under-appreciated.

Climate change is likely to affect fire patterns, but in ways that are
more complicated than "a warmer planet will mean more fires."

Humans must learn to live with fire and adapt to it, as we do with other
inevitable natural forces such as earthquakes and hurricanes.


> Humans must learn to "coexist" again with wildfire, deliberately and proactively. Unlike the human response to tornadoes, floods, hurricanes, earthquakes, and many other natural hazards, the dominant approach to dealing with fires is a reactive one: to fight them. In the past, however, many cultures accommodated fire as a natural process on the landscape -- an ability that has largely been lost in modern societies. Climate adaptation will require a shift in perspective toward viewing fires as inevitable natural events. That's not to say that fire sizes, frequencies, intensities, and seasonalities are unpredictable and completely beyond human control. The effects of fires, both positive and negative, can be amplified by human actions long before they actually occur.

hidy ho

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Sep 6, 2012, 12:10:34 PM9/6/12
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"Sam Wormley" <swor...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5048BCCB...@gmail.com...
Obviously, this article was written by members of the Occupy movement.


sanebow

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Sep 6, 2012, 12:24:49 PM9/6/12
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"Sam Wormley" <swor...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Climate change and wildfire: How vulnerable are we?
>> http://thebulletin.org/web-edition/features/climate-change-and-wildfire-how-vulnerable-are-we
>
> Article Highlights
>
> Wildfire's impacts on the electricity transmission grid, water and food
> supplies, and other aspects of everyday life are under-appreciated.

So, Climate change (global worming) => wildfires => electric grid+water +
food+ other aspects => are under appreciated.


>
> Climate change is likely to affect fire patterns, but in ways that are
> more complicated than "a warmer planet will mean more fires."

wrong, the earth has been cooling the last 10 years, so it is a "cooler
planet will mean less fires"

>
> Humans must learn to live with fire and adapt to it, as we do with other
> inevitable natural forces such as earthquakes and hurricanes.

wrong, we can put fires out with water.



>
>
>> Humans must learn to "coexist" again with wildfire, deliberately and
>> proactively.


......Proactivelly coexist with wildfire.......




Unlike the human response to tornadoes, floods, hurricanes, earthquakes, and
many other natural hazards, the dominant approach to dealing with fires is a
reactive one: to fight them.

..... yes we should put them out BEFORE they start .........


In the past, however, many cultures accommodated fire as a natural process
on the landscape -- an ability that has largely been lost in modern
societies.

.....in the past there wasnt a darn thing many cultures could do about
wildfire.......


Climate adaptation will require a shift in perspective toward viewing fires
as inevitable natural events.


...........Climate adaptation => fires as inevitable natural events........
Wrong, fires are already INEs


That's not to say that fire sizes, frequencies, intensities, and
seasonalities are unpredictable and completely beyond human control.

....... like "Climate Change" (Goober Worming)


The effects of fires, both positive and negative, can be amplified by human
actions long before they actually occur.

....... yes, fire for that stuff in you bong man, keep puffing on
it.........


>


Sam Wormley

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Sep 6, 2012, 12:59:16 PM9/6/12
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On 9/6/12 11:24 AM, sanebow wrote:
> wrong, the earth has been cooling the last 10 years...

http://images.sciencedaily.com/2011/10/111021144716-large.jpg

For global records, 2010 is the hottest year on record, tied with 2005.

No, it hasn't been cooling since 1998. Even if we ignore long term
trends and just look at the record-breakers, that wasn't the hottest
year ever. Different reports show that, overall, 2005 was hotter than
1998. What's more, globally, the hottest 12-month period ever recorded
was from June 2009 to May 2010.

Though humans love record-breakers, they don't, on their own, tell us a
much about trends -- and it's trends that matter when monitoring Climate
Change. Trends only appear by looking at all the data, globally, and
taking into account other variables -- like the effects of the El Nino
ocean current or sunspot activity -- not by cherry-picking single points.

There's also a tendency for some people just to concentrate on air
temperatures when there are other, more useful, indicators that can
perhaps give us a better idea how rapidly the world is warming. Oceans
for instance -- due to their immense size and heat storing capability
(called 'thermal mass') -- tend to give a much more 'steady' indication
of the warming that is happening. Here records show that the Earth has
been warming at a steady rate before and since 1998 and there's no signs
of it slowing any time soon.

See: http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-stopped-in-1998.htm

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Sep 6, 2012, 1:55:45 PM9/6/12
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Sam Wormley wrote:

> Climate change and wildfire: How vulnerable are we?
>> http://thebulletin.org/web-edition/features/climate-change-and-wildfire-
how-vulnerable-are-we
>
> Article Highlights
>
> Wildfire's impacts on the electricity transmission grid, water and food
> supplies, and other aspects of everyday life are under-appreciated.
>
> Climate change is likely to affect fire patterns,

with a sigma of nothing to back it up

> but in ways that are
> more complicated than "a warmer planet will mean more fires."

all with a sigma of nothing.


> Humans must learn to live with fire and adapt to it, as we do with other
> inevitable natural forces such as earthquakes and hurricanes.

These orders from high are coming from someone who has researched
the topic and sells their research with a sigma of nothing.

>
>> Humans must learn to "coexist" again with wildfire, deliberately and
>> proactively.

Otherwise what?
This from research results with sigma of nothing.


>> Unlike the human response to tornadoes, floods, hurricanes,
>> earthquakes, and many other natural hazards, the dominant approach to
>> dealing with fires is a reactive one: to fight them. In the past,
>> however, many cultures accommodated fire as a natural process on the
>> landscape -- an ability that has largely been lost in modern societies.
>> Climate adaptation will require a shift in perspective toward viewing
>> fires as inevitable natural events. That's not to say that fire sizes,
>> frequencies, intensities, and seasonalities are unpredictable and
>> completely beyond human control. The effects of fires, both positive and
>> negative, can be amplified by human actions long before they actually
>> occur.

All this and more with sigma of nothing.

Bill Snyder

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Sep 6, 2012, 2:04:11 PM9/6/12
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Since you obviously have no idea what "a sigma of nothing" means,
why don't you just try, "Abra-cadabra, I don't like what you say,
so I hereby declare it untrue." That wouldn't show you up as
quite as big a fuckwit.


--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]

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Sep 6, 2012, 3:28:37 PM9/6/12
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I thought you died.

Fancy that you coming back just to troll again
in sci.physics!!

Just what is it that you hope to get out of sci.physics with
your trolling for money is not clear this minute.
In time, your company will get hacked and we will have
our BWAHAHAHA moment troll Bill Snyder.

Here more maths for trolls like you on sigma and correlation:

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/07/17/five-sigmawhats-that/


bja...@iwaynet.net

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Sep 6, 2012, 3:57:38 PM9/6/12
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On 9/6/2012 12:59 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 9/6/12 11:24 AM, sanebow wrote:
>> wrong, the earth has been cooling the last 10 years...
>
> http://images.sciencedaily.com/2011/10/111021144716-large.jpg
(propaganda link)

> For global records, 2010 is the hottest year on record, tied with 2005.

Doubtful that this is true. So far GISS data hardly shows a blip and we
all know even if it WERE true, "Professor" Wormley has taught us that
weather is not climate and one record year does not a "global warming"
make. You wouldn't be calling "Professor" Wormley a liar, now, would you
Sam?

> No, it hasn't been cooling since 1998. Even if we ignore long term
> trends and just look at the record-breakers, that wasn't the hottest
> year ever. Different reports show that, overall, 2005 was hotter than
> 1998. What's more, globally, the hottest 12-month period ever recorded
> was from June 2009 to May 2010.

No it hasn't been cooling since 1998. Temperatures have been FLAT
(actually there HAS been "global warming" which is so miniscule to need
a microscope to find)

Let us all note the carefully cherry-picked data so as to make reading
more shocking and scary. Why not a normal year? I thought only "deniers"
were supposed to "cherry-pick" their data?


This gets boring. No credibility left here.

<Snip rest of idiot "skepticalScience" professional propaganda spew>

bja...@iwaynet.net

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Sep 6, 2012, 3:58:27 PM9/6/12
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On 9/6/2012 2:04 PM, Bill Snyder wrote:

> Since you obviously have no idea what "a sigma of nothing" means,
> why don't you just try, "Abra-cadabra, I don't like what you say,
> so I hereby declare it untrue." That wouldn't show you up as
> quite as big a fuckwit.

Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap!

Go lay down!




bja...@iwaynet.net

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Sep 6, 2012, 4:02:36 PM9/6/12
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On 9/6/2012 12:10 PM, hidy ho wrote:

> Obviously, this article was written by members of the Occupy movement.

Comes the Revolution once Capitalism is "smashed" and the bourgeoisie
(middle class) is destroyed and we establish a Union of Soviet-American
Socialist Republics, you won't be laughing anymore, Comrade!


Bill Snyder

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Sep 6, 2012, 4:19:51 PM9/6/12
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Mixing real information with your own ignorant babble won't make
the babble any more meaningful.

Bill Snyder

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Sep 6, 2012, 4:20:28 PM9/6/12
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An unusually lucid post from the shit-bot. Must be new meds.

bja...@iwaynet.net

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bja...@iwaynet.net

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Bill Snyder

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Sep 6, 2012, 5:53:30 PM9/6/12
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Go eat shit and die, moron.

Bill Snyder

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Sep 6, 2012, 5:54:20 PM9/6/12
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:14:05 -0400, "bja...@teranews.com"
<bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote:

>On 9/6/2012 4:20 PM, Bill Snyder wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:58:27 -0400, "bja...@teranews.com"
>> <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/6/2012 2:04 PM, Bill Snyder wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since you obviously have no idea what "a sigma of nothing" means,
>>>> why don't you just try, "Abra-cadabra, I don't like what you say,
>>>> so I hereby declare it untrue." That wouldn't show you up as
>>>> quite as big a fuckwit.
>>>
>>> Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap!
>>>
>>> Go lay down!
>>
>> An unusually lucid post from the shit-bot. Must be new meds.
>
>Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap!
>
>Go lay down!

If we can just get him to posting this all the time, it'll be a
lot less bullshit to wade through.

bja...@iwaynet.net

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bja...@iwaynet.net

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Bill Snyder

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Sep 7, 2012, 1:38:38 AM9/7/12
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:31:18 -0400, "bja...@teranews.com"
<bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote:

>On 9/6/2012 5:53 PM, Bill Snyder wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:13:21 -0400, "bja...@teranews.com"
>> <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/6/2012 4:19 PM, Bill Snyder wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 20:28:37 +0100, 7
>>>> <email_at_www_at_en...@enemygadgets.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Here more maths for trolls like you on sigma and correlation:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/07/17/five-sigmawhats-that/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mixing real information with your own ignorant babble won't make
>>>> the babble any more meaningful.
>>>
>>> Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap!
>>>
>>> Go lay down!
>>
>> Go eat shit and die, moron.
>
>Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap!
>
>Go lay down!

And the hits just keep on coming . . .

Bill Snyder

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Sep 7, 2012, 1:39:24 AM9/7/12
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:32:01 -0400, "bja...@teranews.com"
So tell us, *are* you on new meds this week?

bja...@iwaynet.net

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bja...@iwaynet.net

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On 9/7/2012 1:39 AM, Bill Snyder wrote:

Bill Snyder

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 04:46:28 -0400, "bja...@teranews.com"
Convincing as usual.

bja...@iwaynet.net

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Bill Snyder

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Sep 7, 2012, 5:01:30 PM9/7/12
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:59:15 -0400, "bja...@teranews.com"
He's an excitable little puppy, but maybe we'll get him
house-trained eventually.

>Go lay down!

But expecting a dog to learn grammar is probably unrealistic.

Bill Snyder

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Sep 7, 2012, 5:02:42 PM9/7/12
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:59:50 -0400, "bja...@teranews.com"
Now, now. If the puppy doesn't like having his nose rubbed in it,
he'll have to learn to stop doing it in the newsgroup.

>Go lay down!

bja...@iwaynet.net

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On 9/7/2012 5:01 PM, Bill Snyder wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:59:15 -0400, "bja...@teranews.com"

>>> And the hits just keep on coming . . .
>>
>> Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap!
>
> He's an excitable little puppy, but maybe we'll get him
> house-trained eventually.
>
>> Go lay down!
>
> But expecting a dog to learn grammar is probably unrealistic.

Which is why you tell a DOG to "go lay down"!

Idiot.


bja...@iwaynet.net

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Bill Snyder

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Well, in human terms, you are, of course. But for a dog, you're
pretty bright.

Bill Snyder

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Sep 8, 2012, 2:38:34 AM9/8/12
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 01:35:52 -0400, "bja...@teranews.com"
He gets that way every time you show him the newspaper. Even if
it's not rolled up.

7

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Bill Snyder wrote:


> H


Curios!

So why does an online professional troll like yourself Bill Snyder infect
sci.physics?




Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------

Hiring trolls is ignorant.

Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so they fund it all illegally
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through loopholes in US law.

The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.

Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.
Companies like Eedleman also run fake survey companies
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There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
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The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.

The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music mafia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.

The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies. What would you do if you were
forced into a shelter and all your charity
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You are down and they still want to steal YOUR CHARITY MONEY?!??
Thats right you would tell them NEVER and tell
them fsck off in no uncertain terms and get the law changed
to make it a criminal offense to steal charity money
or spend it on anything other than 100% certified peer reviewed charity
without kickbacks, without creative accounting and
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Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?

No thanks!!!!

Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.

Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.

If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.



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----------------------


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The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
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It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
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What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.

They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.

There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.

The asstroturfing teams had already gone into government and offered them
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Bill Snyder

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On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 10:15:02 +0100, 7
<email_at_www_at_en...@enemygadgets.com> wrote:

>Bill Snyder wrote:
>
>
>> H
>
>
>Curios!
>
>So why does an online professional troll like yourself Bill Snyder infect
>sci.physics?

>[conspiracy-theory rant snipped]

I like making crazy people like you foam at the mouth.

bja...@iwaynet.net

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Sep 8, 2012, 3:03:59 PM9/8/12
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Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap!

Go lay down.

bja...@iwaynet.net

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Sep 8, 2012, 3:04:44 PM9/8/12
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Go lay down.


bja...@iwaynet.net

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Sep 8, 2012, 3:05:47 PM9/8/12
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On 9/8/2012 10:55 AM, Bill Snyder wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 10:15:02 +0100, 7
> <email_at_www_at_en...@enemygadgets.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill Snyder wrote:
>>
>>
>>> H
>>
>>
>> Curios!
>>
>> So why does an online professional troll like yourself Bill Snyder infect
>> sci.physics?
>
>> [conspiracy-theory rant snipped]
>
> I like making crazy people like you foam at the mouth.

Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap!

Go lay down!


Bill Snyder

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Sep 8, 2012, 3:10:14 PM9/8/12
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 15:03:59 -0400, "bja...@teranews.com"
Another mess on the floor. Tsk, tsk.

Bill Snyder

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And another mess on the floor.

Bill Snyder

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Sep 8, 2012, 3:12:27 PM9/8/12
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 15:04:44 -0400, "bja...@teranews.com"
I take back what I said about his being pretty bright for a dog.
It looks like he's not smart enough to ever be house-trained. Just
one smelly mess after another.

bja...@iwaynet.net

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Sep 9, 2012, 12:22:22 AM9/9/12
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Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap!

Go lay down!

Still nothing worthwhile to say.

Bill Snyder

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Sep 9, 2012, 12:36:40 AM9/9/12
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 00:22:22 -0400, "bja...@teranews.com"
Which is totally normal for you, so why bother to mention it?

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Sep 9, 2012, 2:22:53 AM9/9/12
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Bill Snyder

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Sep 9, 2012, 10:25:55 AM9/9/12
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 02:22:53 -0400, "bja...@teranews.com"
Everybody noticed that, little puppy. Long, long ago.

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Sep 9, 2012, 10:45:56 AM9/9/12
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 10:43:09 -0400, "bja...@teranews.com"
<sigh> We know, little puppy.
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