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DDP...@gmail.com

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Jul 20, 2007, 6:46:40 AM7/20/07
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Is there any theory that treats gravity like a pseudoforce (just like
centrifugal force)?
Thanks.

Sanny

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Jul 20, 2007, 8:38:38 AM7/20/07
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No gravity is just a Matter Wave created by Mass. Just like if you
throw a stone in water Waves are created. These waves are just like
Electromagnetic waves which produce gravity.

You are still in 19th century.

Bye
Sanny

Igor

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Jul 20, 2007, 9:52:55 AM7/20/07
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General Relativity.

DDP...@gmail.com

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Jul 20, 2007, 11:38:30 AM7/20/07
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Thanks, but

I had the impression that relativity wasn't absolutely accurate in
each predictions and it is more or less abandon.
I was asking about an modern theory.

As far as "pseudoforce" is concerned, i was referring to a force that
doesn't exist but we feel it as existing because we mixed it up with
something else, maybe still unkown.

So mass waves is the most modern theory? Not gravitrons or strings?
And what kind of change keeps producing those waves??

BTW, i have read about electrogravity which comes in 2 flavours :)
- Gravity is to electrogravity what magnetism is to electromagnetism,
but instead of coils using capasitors.
-Gravity is a pulling force produced by positive charge

What about these?

Stuart Lavin

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Jul 20, 2007, 4:57:33 PM7/20/07
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On Jul 20, 1:38 pm, Sanny <softta...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> No gravity is just a Matter Wave created by Mass. Just like if you
> throw a stone in water Waves are created. These waves are just like
> Electromagnetic waves which produce gravity.

But isn't it then a wave that propagates faster than light? I seem to
recall that light takes a couple of hundred hours to reach Pluto, but
the riddle is that Pluto gravitates to where the sun is *now* - not a
couple of hundred hours ago.

Everyone's going to take the piss out of me for this (I'm a layman),
but something occurred to me a while ago, and screw it - I'm going to
ask. Is there *any way* that gravity could simply be a form of
radiation that happens backwards in time?

I remember reading a book that mentioned "the arrow of time", and it
said that, while a body radiating light in all directions makes
perfect sense, the time-reversed version would require protons to come
from all these different directions and converge, as if by magic, on a
single point - which is surely counterintuitive. And I'd always
thought the same thing about gravity, which is essentially small
objects "homing in" on a larger one's centre of gravity. But
backwards in time, that would make more sense - just stuff flying off
in all directions.

I am annoyed by the fact that I don't understand gravity :o)

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- Stua

mike3

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Jul 20, 2007, 6:04:43 PM7/20/07
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Relativity is actually a very good theory and has been quite accurate.
It has gravity as space waves (distortions of space-time geometry.).

For "electrogravity", well, you seem to describe two different things.
The first sounds sort of like the theory of "gravitoelectromagnetism"
or "GEM", which is an _analogy_ between gravity and electromagnetism,
derived from general relativity. When you have moving objects, there
is a
relativistic component to the gravitational field that behaves like
the
magnetic field.

The second thing you seem to describe is like the "Unified Field"
theory,
which attempts to describe the four forces of nature as different
forms
of one force (so gravity and electromagnetism could be considered two
forms of the same force.). Nobody has yet come up with a successful
one.

Eric Gisse

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Jul 20, 2007, 6:29:58 PM7/20/07
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On Jul 20, 7:38 am, DDP3...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks, but
>
> I had the impression that relativity wasn't absolutely accurate in
> each predictions and it is more or less abandon.
> I was asking about an modern theory.

Your impression is wrong. General relativity has yet to be
experimentally falsified.

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G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Jul 21, 2007, 8:28:27 AM7/21/07
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To Ya All The great mind of Feynman could not come up with one good
thought on gravity. he never used gravity as far as I know in any of
his diagrams. gravity has to come out of the micro realm. I do have a
Planck length theory on gravity bert

hanson

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Jul 21, 2007, 1:08:02 PM7/21/07
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:4939-46A...@storefull-3336.bay.webtv.net...

> I do have a Planck length theory on gravity bert
>
... Good, Hebie. If it is short like that then nobody will notice it.
Thanks for the laughs, Herbie,
ahahaha... ahahahanson


G=EMC^2 Glazier

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Jul 21, 2007, 1:39:51 PM7/21/07
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Hansen Ha Ha Ha Ha When will your good friend "El" get out of jail for
molesting that 5 year old Jewish child Is it true you helped hold her
down? It is a scenario that fits you both so well. bert

hanson

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Jul 21, 2007, 2:31:13 PM7/21/07
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Judeo-Nazi"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> wrote in

message news:4939-46A...@storefull-3336.bay.webtv.net...
> I do have a Planck length theory on gravity bert
>
[hanson]

... Good, Hebie. If it is short like that then nobody will notice it.
Thanks for the laughs, Herbie,
ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
..over which Hebie "G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net>
cranked himself with geriatric ferocity as he maligned in his vile
news:4936-46A...@storefull-3336.bay.webtv.net...

> Hansen Ha Ha Ha Ha When will your good friend "El" get out of
> jail for molesting that 5 year old Jewish child Is it true you helped
> hold her down? It is a scenario that fits you both so well. bert
>
[hanson]
.... ahahaha... see Herbie, your hateful, bigoted and racist
Jew fantasies seem to have gravity for yourself... You are
an enormous embarrassment to your Jewish community as
well as to humanity... BTW, did you take Viagra again that you
bragged about? But it appears that it did you no good that
you have to get your rocks off this way.... hahahaha...
Thanks for the laughs, Hebie... ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
PS:
... or... ahaha... Are you still cranking yourself over this one, Hebie?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e5bffaea692a1650
wherein it shows a splendid exhibition by one of your own ilk here:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f . ... and wherein
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2002/04/1003.shtml .. it says:
::Sharon:: We might start World War Three.
::Sharon:: We might use nuclear arms. We are **Judeo-Nazis**.
::Sharon:: I am disgrace to humanity, I don't mind, on the contrary.
::Sharon:: ** I will do all I can to increase Anti-Semitism **, and be
::Sharon:: prepared to ..... yada, yada, yada....
....
or did Sid Snead make your lame beitsym fall off:.... ahahaha...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/d183ad854c48ca6c
:: Sid:: I am sorry to hear that you are a Jew. I enjoy the clarity of
:: Sid:: your writing, but I will now have to treat your opinions as
:: Sid:: suspect, since, you being a Jew, you believe that what is
:: Sid:: good for Jews is more important than the truth.
>
Herbie, it's not me who you should malign. Straighten out your own ilk
first, ahahahaha... AHAHAHA....


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