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Subject: Re: repetition of MMX with radiowaves
From: Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it>
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On 6 Ott, 15:32, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
<LordAndroc...@October2012.org> wrote:
> "Casimiro" <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in messagenews:eaa24ded-ee42-488d-8c=
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> On 6 Ott, 13:36, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
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> <LordAndroc...@October2012.org> wrote:
> > "Casimiro" <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in messagenews:485ed513-682e-4883-=
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> > On 6 Ott, 08:54, Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote:
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> > > On 6 Ott, 01:09, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
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> > > <LordAndroc...@October2012.org> wrote:
> > > > "Casimiro" <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in messagenews:b85fffb8-449d-4=
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> > > > On 5 Ott, 16:42, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
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> > > > <LordAndroc...@October2012.org> wrote:
> > > > > "Casimiro" <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in messagenews:697dafad-7695=
-4a49-8c68-8f0031838...@r9g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
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> > > > > On 4 Ott, 23:54, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
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> > > > > <LordAndroc...@October2012.org> wrote:
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> > > > > > There is an optical MMX here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7=
T0d7o8X2-E
> > > > > > Martin Grusenik=92s error is corrected here:http://www.youtube.=
com/watch?v=3DaNEryiOKkrc
>
> > > > > I know and agree with Grusenick.
>
> > > > > > If you change the path length between source and detector there
> > > > > > WILL be a shift. What is that supposed to prove?
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> > > > > Of coarse. For this I preferred rigid coaxial cable to waveguide =
in
> > > > > which the antennas =A0could move some micron.
>
> > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > > > I still fail to understand what you are trying to prove.
>
> > > > The medium existence, or ether. Simple.
> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > > Oh, I see. You want to prove something that doesn=92t exist, does.
>
> > > > > MMX was set up to measure the speed of light in the supposed aeth=
er
> > > > > with the knowledge of the Earth=92s velocity in that stationary m=
edium,
> > > > > so what is the purpose of using coaxial cable carried along with
> > > > > source and detector in place of an aether wind?
>
> > > > The light or radio waves are the same phenomenon: both are
> > > > electromagnetic waves, differing only in frequency.
> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > > There are electric waves and there are magnetic waves, but there
> > > > are no magnetoelectric or electromagnetic waves. Electric waves
> > > > that have the same frequency and direction as the magnetic wave
> > > > are displaced in phase by 90 degrees, so they are different. Simple=
.
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> > > > But =A0wavelengths of centimeters are easier measurable than angstr=
om
> > > > waves!
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> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > > Whoopee! How exciting! Huge Ferris wheels are easier measurable tha=
n
> > > > tiny roller skate wheels! Simple! Lots of exclamation marks because
> > > > this is really thrilling!!!!!
>
> > > > For centimeters waves exist precision instruments and an improved
> > > > technique.
> > > > Coaxial cable is matter thru which ether travels simply slower than=
 in
> > > > free space.
>
> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > > Aether travels through matter like Santa Claus travels on a sleigh
> > > > and visits all the children on Xmas Eve. I have news for you.
> > > > Santa and aether are myths and this a physics forum, sonny.
> > > > It=92s time you grew up. Simple.
>
> > > > > The direct analogy is the sound inside the plane. The air outside
> > > > > is rushing past at 500 mph, but the air inside is calm and carrie=
s
> > > > > sound normally.
>
> > > > You say that ether is still on the earth?
> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > > No. I say aether is nonsense, but Santa is needed to
> > > > deliver presents under Xmas trees for children. Simple.
>
> > > > But I measure a velocity. Tens kilometers/s. This I deduce
> > > > from changes of wavelength of radiowaves moving my instrument ,
> > > > detected with phase detector.
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> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > > Velocity of what, relative to what?
> > > > I measure presents under the Xmas tree. The presents are real,
> > > > so Santa put them there really fast, he has millions of homes
> > > > to visit in one night. Santa travels much faster than light. Simple=
.
>
> > > > Now you tie a piece of string between two cans
>
> > > > > and pulling it taught, talk into one can and are heard in the oth=
er
> > > > > with the string as the sound carrying medium to simulate your
> > > > > coax. What=92s the point?
>
> > > > The string is the medium.
>
> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > > So sound waves needs no air and magnetic fields needs no aether, bu=
t
> > > > presents under Xmas trees need Santa. Simple. What is your point?
>
> > > > > The simple answer to MMX is the same as a game of table tennis
> > > > > on the plane. The speed of light and ping pong balls is source
> > > > > dependent and has nothing whatever to do with the aether/air
> > > > > outside the plane, and of course there is no aether anyway.
> > > > > Light and radio waves are carried by alternating electric and
> > > > > magnetic fields, not a mechanical aether.
>
> > > > Ether is'nt mechanical, is simply the support of magnetic, electric
> > > > and gravitational fields.
> > > > May be the "dark matter" of modern physics...
> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > > Santa isn=92t human, he=92s simply the delivery agent supported
> > > > by reindeer and the help of elves to make all the toys. Simple.
> > > > Maybe the dark angel of ancient idiocy. Simple.
>
> > > > > The ball with fly better
> > > > > without air, you can play squash in the cargo bay of the space
> > > > > shuttle under airless conditions, and so will light. Aether and
> > > > > relativity are nonsense.
> > > > > If you want to do something useful, measure the speed of radio
> > > > > waves in waveguides. Don=92t take Einstein=92s word for it, he wa=
s
> > > > > an idiot. It=92ll be different to that of the speed of light and =
you=92ll
> > > > > be the first to find it. And repeat at a different frequency.
>
> > > > Sorry, I pursue with my head.
> > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > > Pity your sorry head is full of aether with no brain. Tell
> > > > your aether story to the children. Over and out. Simple.
>
> > > > -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> > > > Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
>
> > > divertissement pour vous.
> > > OK.
>
> > All is explained in the video, (I'm subtitling in english). For you!
>
> > Please, how do you explaine the phase changes directing in space the
> > magic T? Santa Claus?
>
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > Yes. Instead of proving the aether exists when it doesn=92t I=92ve prov=
ed
> > Santa Claus exists, =A0as you have now realised. All is explained under
> > the Xmas tree.
>
> > I have done a measure of "absolute speed" relative , =A090=B0 tilting t=
he
> > T.
> > Do you know "sound anemometers" ? Well, I changed the sound with a
> > radiowave generated by a syntetized oscillator.
> > Change of phase say me the speed. Simple
>
> > Change of phase says to me no aether. Simple.
> > =A0http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/AC.htm
> > -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> > Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
>
> funny cartons! Ok, physics is Holliwoodian, to day. Phantascience...
> I pursue for my way. Old fashon...
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> Casimiro=92s fantasy physics:
> =A0http://www.sfkids.org/uploadedImages/kid%20on%20swing.JPG
>
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

very nice baby! Yes, I have the same his optimism in the life...
What about the santa claus who changes the phase? It' the wavelength.
You also are childish!