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mpc755
Apr 29, 2013, 11:24:28 PM4/29/13
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Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by matter. There is no such thing as
non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Matter moves through and
displaces the aether.
'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/dec/HQ_11-402_AGU_Voyager.html
"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like
cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity
of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar
space is compacting it."
It is not the particles of matter which exist in quantities less than
in any vacuum artificially created on Earth which are pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward the solar system.
It is the aether, which the particles of matter exist in, which is the
interstellar medium. It is the aether which is displaced by the matter
the solar system consists of which is pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the solar system.
'Galactic Pile-Up May Point to Mysterious New Dark Force in the
Universe'
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/01/musket-ball-dark-force/
"The reason this is strange is that dark matter is thought to barely
interact with itself. The dark matter should just coast through itself
and move at the same speed as the hardly interacting galaxies.
Instead, it looks like the dark matter is crashing into something —
perhaps itself – and slowing down faster than the galaxies are. But
this would require the dark matter to be able to interact with itself
in a completely new an unexpected way, a “dark force” that affects
only dark matter."
A 'new dark force' is more speculative than understanding space itself
has mass. What is occurring is analogous to the bow waves of two boats
which pass by each other. The aether displaced by the galaxies
interacts and 'piles-up' as the galaxies pass by each other.
'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places"
The state of the aether at every place determined by connections with
the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
state of displacement of the aether.
'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html
"Astronomers using NASA's Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark mater, which is
somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
water."
The 'pond' consists of aether. The analogy are two boats which pass by
each other very closely. Their bow waves slosh back and forth and
create a ripple in the water.
The Milky Way's halo is what is referred to as the curvature of
spacetime.
The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether.
The geometrical representation of gravity as curved spacetime
physically exists in nature as the state of displacement of the
aether.
Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.
'Offset between dark matter and ordinary matter: evidence from a
sample of 38 lensing clusters of galaxies'
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1004/1004.1475v1.pdf
"Our data strongly support the idea that the gravitational potential
in clusters is mainly due to a non-baryonic fluid, and any exotic
field in gravitational theory must resemble that of CDM fields very
closely."
The offset is due to the galaxy clusters moving through the aether.
The analogy is a submarine moving through the water. You are under
water. Two miles away from you are many lights. Moving between you and
the lights one mile away is a submarine. The submarine displaces the
water. The state of displacement of the water causes the center of the
lensing of the light propagating through the water to be offset from
the center of the submarine itself. The offset between the center of
the lensing of the light propagating through the water displaced by
the submarine and the center of the submarine itself is going to
remain the same as the submarine moves through the water. The
submarine continually displaces different regions of the water. The
state of the water connected to and neighboring the submarine remains
the same as the submarine moves through the water even though it is
not the same water the submarine continually displaces. This is what
is occurring physically in nature as the galaxy clusters move through
and displace the aether.
'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory -
Louis de BROGLIE'
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf
“When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics I was
looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles,
of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in
his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the
physical reality of waves and particles.”
“any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous
“energetic contact” with a hidden medium”
The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the aether. The
“energetic contact” is the state of displacement of the aether.
"For me, the particle, precisely located in space at every instant,
forms on the v wave a small region of high energy concentration, which
may be likened in a first approximation, to a moving singularity."
A particle is a moving singularity which has an associated aether
displacement wave.
In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined path
which takes it through one slit. The associated wave in the aether
passes through both. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates
wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction
it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave
piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Detecting the particle
strongly exiting a single slit destroys the coherence between the
particle and its associated wave in the aether.
What ripples when galaxy clusters collide is what waves in a double
slit experiment; the aether.
Einstein's gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave. Both are
waves in the aether.
Aether is physically displaced by matter. There is no such thing as
non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Matter moves through and
displaces the aether.
'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/dec/HQ_11-402_AGU_Voyager.html
"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like
cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity
of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar
space is compacting it."
It is not the particles of matter which exist in quantities less than
in any vacuum artificially created on Earth which are pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward the solar system.
It is the aether, which the particles of matter exist in, which is the
interstellar medium. It is the aether which is displaced by the matter
the solar system consists of which is pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the solar system.
'Galactic Pile-Up May Point to Mysterious New Dark Force in the
Universe'
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/01/musket-ball-dark-force/
"The reason this is strange is that dark matter is thought to barely
interact with itself. The dark matter should just coast through itself
and move at the same speed as the hardly interacting galaxies.
Instead, it looks like the dark matter is crashing into something —
perhaps itself – and slowing down faster than the galaxies are. But
this would require the dark matter to be able to interact with itself
in a completely new an unexpected way, a “dark force” that affects
only dark matter."
A 'new dark force' is more speculative than understanding space itself
has mass. What is occurring is analogous to the bow waves of two boats
which pass by each other. The aether displaced by the galaxies
interacts and 'piles-up' as the galaxies pass by each other.
'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places"
The state of the aether at every place determined by connections with
the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
state of displacement of the aether.
'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html
"Astronomers using NASA's Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark mater, which is
somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
water."
The 'pond' consists of aether. The analogy are two boats which pass by
each other very closely. Their bow waves slosh back and forth and
create a ripple in the water.
The Milky Way's halo is what is referred to as the curvature of
spacetime.
The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether.
The geometrical representation of gravity as curved spacetime
physically exists in nature as the state of displacement of the
aether.
Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.
'Offset between dark matter and ordinary matter: evidence from a
sample of 38 lensing clusters of galaxies'
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1004/1004.1475v1.pdf
"Our data strongly support the idea that the gravitational potential
in clusters is mainly due to a non-baryonic fluid, and any exotic
field in gravitational theory must resemble that of CDM fields very
closely."
The offset is due to the galaxy clusters moving through the aether.
The analogy is a submarine moving through the water. You are under
water. Two miles away from you are many lights. Moving between you and
the lights one mile away is a submarine. The submarine displaces the
water. The state of displacement of the water causes the center of the
lensing of the light propagating through the water to be offset from
the center of the submarine itself. The offset between the center of
the lensing of the light propagating through the water displaced by
the submarine and the center of the submarine itself is going to
remain the same as the submarine moves through the water. The
submarine continually displaces different regions of the water. The
state of the water connected to and neighboring the submarine remains
the same as the submarine moves through the water even though it is
not the same water the submarine continually displaces. This is what
is occurring physically in nature as the galaxy clusters move through
and displace the aether.
'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory -
Louis de BROGLIE'
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf
“When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics I was
looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles,
of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in
his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the
physical reality of waves and particles.”
“any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous
“energetic contact” with a hidden medium”
The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the aether. The
“energetic contact” is the state of displacement of the aether.
"For me, the particle, precisely located in space at every instant,
forms on the v wave a small region of high energy concentration, which
may be likened in a first approximation, to a moving singularity."
A particle is a moving singularity which has an associated aether
displacement wave.
In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined path
which takes it through one slit. The associated wave in the aether
passes through both. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates
wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction
it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave
piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Detecting the particle
strongly exiting a single slit destroys the coherence between the
particle and its associated wave in the aether.
What ripples when galaxy clusters collide is what waves in a double
slit experiment; the aether.
Einstein's gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave. Both are
waves in the aether.
Brad Guth
Apr 29, 2013, 11:31:50 PM4/29/13
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mpc755
Apr 30, 2013, 10:26:33 AM4/30/13
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determined by the physical state of the aether in which it exists. In
terms of general relativity, the greater the mass per volume of the
matter the greater the displacement of the aether, the greater the
force exerted toward and throughout the atomic clock by the displaced
aether the slower the atomic clock ticks. In terms of special
relativity, the faster a clock moves with respect to the state of the
aether in which it exists the more aether the clock displaces the more
force the displaced aether exerts toward and throughout the atomic
clock the slower the clock ticks.
Curved spacetime is the state of displacement of the aether.
Brad Guth
Apr 30, 2013, 12:56:57 PM4/30/13
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entirely different, depending on the applied physics and science
utilized in order to detect and/or modify whatever is affected by
time.
Supposedly our galaxy is moving away from distant galaxies at near the
speed of light, making our measurement of time that's situated in
between as extremely distorted.
mpc755
Apr 30, 2013, 9:31:33 PM4/30/13
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events takes longer than more time has passed. Time itself hasn't
changed. When an atomic clock ticks slower the duration between the
ticks is longer and more time has passed between the ticks. Time has
not changed.
xxein
May 1, 2013, 10:36:49 PM5/1/13
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xxein: OK. I have no problem with that. I find it necessary also.
But what is the ether?
I have an answer but I fear it's over your head.
But what is the ether?
I have an answer but I fear it's over your head.
1treePetrifiedForestLane
May 1, 2013, 10:40:12 PM5/1/13
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atoms of dihydrogen;
about an order of magnitude more of it than H+, although
it has no dipole moment to see it by.
about an order of magnitude more of it than H+, although
it has no dipole moment to see it by.
John Gogo
May 1, 2013, 11:08:28 PM5/1/13
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source send a pure picture of its existence? Wouldn't the inertia
created prevent us from observing extremely distant objects? If I did
believe in the Aether- it would be a measure which means almost
nothing- like a vacuum.
Sam Wormley
May 2, 2013, 12:12:05 AM5/2/13
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is a old idea that physics doesn't need nor has any evidence for.
mpc755
May 2, 2013, 10:25:14 AM5/2/13
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unoccupied by particles of matter.
mpc755
May 2, 2013, 10:25:29 AM5/2/13
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of relativity, should boil down to conceptualizing space as a medium
when his original premise [in special relativity] was that no such
medium existed [..] The word 'ether' has extremely negative
connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association
with opposition to relativity. This is unfortunate because, stripped
of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most
physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually
says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading
the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic
symmetry. [..] It turns out that such matter exists. About the time
relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began
showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure
similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent
studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand
that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian
emptiness. It is filled with 'stuff' that is normally transparent but
can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a
part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day
by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this
because it is taboo." - Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics,
endowed chair in physics, Stanford University
"If a hidden sub-quantum medium is assumed, knowledge of its nature
would seem desirable. It certainly is of quite complex character. It
could not serve as a universal reference medium, as this would be
contrary to relativity theory." - Louis de Broglie, Nobel Laureate in
Physics
"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation
of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space
and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time
intervals in the physical sense." - Albert Einstein, Nobel Laureate in
Physics
The relativistic ether referred to by Laughlin is the hidden sub-
quantum medium referred to by de Broglie is the ether which propagates
light referred to by Einstein.
mpc755
May 2, 2013, 10:26:23 AM5/2/13
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slit experiment. Can't can you? Physics doesn't need ignorance;
however, it is full of it.
john
May 2, 2013, 11:03:36 AM5/2/13
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*>
*> quantum medium referred to by de Broglie is the ether which propagates
*>
*> light referred to by Einstein.
And of what is it made? Is there something that fills Space,
like you say, and can be "displaced"?
Modern Physics has evidence of "virtual particles"
that "pop into and out of existence".
Let's say they don't pop *out* of existence,
but are always there, filling Space, in a
state of 2D. Little spinning circles of energy.
(Waves passing?)
Then, when these two-dimensional circles are
disturbed, they become three-dimensional- i.e.
they 'pop into existence' three-dimensionally-speaking.
Okay, now let us make a relativistic vortex
(like are observed around black holes).
All the virtual particles within a certain
distance will be spun fast enough that
they are split apart. The oppositely-charged
halves will be highly-magnetized. They
will be repelled away from the center of spin.
They will fuse again in a magnetized state around
the borders of the spin, and slowly radiate
their energy away until they fall back in.
You will have a Galaxy.
So, Space must be full of these virtual
2D atoms. The 'hidden sub-quantum medium' is
not hidden, it just lacks a dimension.
john
Sam Wormley
May 2, 2013, 11:21:49 AM5/2/13
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On 5/2/13 10:03 AM, john wrote:
> So, Space must be full of these virtual
> 2D atoms. The 'hidden sub-quantum medium' is
> not hidden, it just lacks a dimension.
>
> john
None of the above.
> So, Space must be full of these virtual
> 2D atoms. The 'hidden sub-quantum medium' is
> not hidden, it just lacks a dimension.
>
> john
1treePetrifiedForestLane
May 2, 2013, 10:41:53 PM5/2/13
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it's just atoms;
dihydrogen is far more common in interstellar and
intergalactic space, than H+. every time that
some atom or molecule is sought,
there it had been.
another example is C_2n; specifically,
C_2, but it has no dipole moment!
dihydrogen is far more common in interstellar and
intergalactic space, than H+. every time that
some atom or molecule is sought,
there it had been.
another example is C_2n; specifically,
C_2, but it has no dipole moment!
mpc755
May 4, 2013, 12:35:08 PM5/4/13
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On Apr 29, 11:24 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.efiko.org/material/Albert%20Einstein%5c%27s%20First%20Paper%20by%20Anonymous.pdf
"The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the
elastic forces which cause [its] propagation, and inversely
proportional to the mass of the aether moved by these forces."
Einstein is describing the state of displacement of the aether.
The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the
elastic forces which cause its propagation, and inversely proportional
to the mass of the aether displaced by these forces.
The relativistic mass of an object is the mass of the object and the
mass of the aether connected to and neighboring the object which is
displaced by the object. The faster an object moves with respect to
the state of the aether in which it exists the greater the
displacement of the aether by the object the greater the relativistic
mass of the object.
Brad Guth
May 4, 2013, 12:45:18 PM5/4/13
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>
> "The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the
> elastic forces which cause [its] propagation, and inversely
> proportional to the mass of the aether moved by these forces."
>
> Einstein is describing the state of displacement of the aether.
>
> The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the
> elastic forces which cause its propagation, and inversely proportional
> to the mass of the aether displaced by these forces.
>
> The relativistic mass of an object is the mass of the object and the
> mass of the aether connected to and neighboring the object which is
> displaced by the object. The faster an object moves with respect to
> the state of the aether in which it exists the greater the
> displacement of the aether by the object the greater the relativistic
> mass of the object.
That's better worded and needs only a little collaboration in a
> "The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the
> elastic forces which cause [its] propagation, and inversely
> proportional to the mass of the aether moved by these forces."
>
> Einstein is describing the state of displacement of the aether.
>
> The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the
> elastic forces which cause its propagation, and inversely proportional
> to the mass of the aether displaced by these forces.
>
> The relativistic mass of an object is the mass of the object and the
> mass of the aether connected to and neighboring the object which is
> displaced by the object. The faster an object moves with respect to
> the state of the aether in which it exists the greater the
> displacement of the aether by the object the greater the relativistic
> mass of the object.
positive/constructive way. Unfortunately, there's not one example of
our resident oligarch and/or faith-based funded FUD-masters as having
ever allowed any such intellectual or scientific support that could
possibly benefit an outsider like yourself.
Whenever they(our resident brown nosed FUD-masters) like, it seems
Einstein can be trashed in order to suit their closed mindset, or by
the same token Einstein can be utilized to trash others. In other
words, this Usenet/newsgroup version of intellectual bipolarism is
every bit as mainstream terrorist worthy as it gets.
http://translate.google.com/#
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Venus”, GuthVenus
mpc755
May 4, 2013, 12:50:59 PM5/4/13
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>
> "The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the
> elastic forces which cause [its] propagation, and inversely
> proportional to the mass of the aether moved by these forces."
>
> Einstein is describing the state of displacement of the aether.
>
> The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the
> elastic forces which cause its propagation, and inversely proportional
> to the mass of the aether displaced by these forces.
>
> The relativistic mass of an object is the mass of the object and the
> mass of the aether connected to and neighboring the object which is
> displaced by the object. The faster an object moves with respect to
> the state of the aether in which it exists the greater the
> displacement of the aether by the object the greater the relativistic
> mass of the object.
> "The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the
> elastic forces which cause [its] propagation, and inversely
> proportional to the mass of the aether moved by these forces."
>
> Einstein is describing the state of displacement of the aether.
>
> The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the
> elastic forces which cause its propagation, and inversely proportional
> to the mass of the aether displaced by these forces.
>
> The relativistic mass of an object is the mass of the object and the
> mass of the aether connected to and neighboring the object which is
> displaced by the object. The faster an object moves with respect to
> the state of the aether in which it exists the greater the
> displacement of the aether by the object the greater the relativistic
> mass of the object.
The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether. The
relativistic mass of the Milky Way is the mass of the Milky Way and
the mass of the aether connected to and neighboring the Milky Way
which is displaced by the matter the Milky Way consists of.
The relativistic mass of the Milky Way accounts for the speed at which
the matter in the Milky Way moves.
Sam Wormley
May 4, 2013, 1:00:05 PM5/4/13
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Brad Guth
May 4, 2013, 1:21:39 PM5/4/13
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so why are you here?
Did your oligarch peers tell you to get off your redneck butt and
topic/author stalk so that you can post more FUD?
john
May 4, 2013, 1:41:08 PM5/4/13
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Yeah, Sam!
You provide every kind of link
Which is sometimes good
But you refuse to think
'Cause yer brains have rotted
(Sorry, I was going to rhyme
with 'wood', but truth will out.)
john
You provide every kind of link
Which is sometimes good
But you refuse to think
'Cause yer brains have rotted
(Sorry, I was going to rhyme
with 'wood', but truth will out.)
john
mpc755
May 13, 2013, 7:58:10 PM5/13/13
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On Apr 29, 11:24 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
"a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with
interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the
field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest
position"
A 'field' in physics is space filled with aether and the strength of
the field is the displacement of the aether from its rest position.
Each of the plates in the Casimir effect displace the aether. The
displaced aether which exists between the plates is pushing back
toward each of the plates which causes the force associated with the
aether displaced by each of the plates which exists between the plates
to offset. This aether is more at rest than the aether which is
displaced by the plates which encompasses the plates. The reduced
force associated with the aether which exists between the plates along
with the displaced aether which encompasses the plates which is
pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the plates causes the
plates to be forced together.
What occurs physically in nature in the Casimir effect is the same
phenomenon as gravity.
There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Aether has mass
and physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically
displaced by matter.
HVAC
May 13, 2013, 8:48:28 PM5/13/13
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On 5/13/2013 7:58 PM, mpc755 wrote:
> On Apr 29, 11:24 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Aether has mass.
Ether doesn't exist except in the 'minds' of kooks.
> On Apr 29, 11:24 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Aether has mass.
<<Snip remaining ether bullshit>>
--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
mpc755
May 13, 2013, 8:49:08 PM5/13/13
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On May 13, 8:48 pm, HVAC <harlowcampb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/13/2013 7:58 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > On Apr 29, 11:24 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Aether has mass.
>
> Ether doesn't exist except in the 'minds' of kooks.
>
> On 5/13/2013 7:58 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > On Apr 29, 11:24 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Aether has mass.
>
> Ether doesn't exist except in the 'minds' of kooks.
>
The relativistic ether referred to by Laughlin is the hidden sub-
quantum medium referred to by de Broglie is the ether which propagates
Brad Guth
May 13, 2013, 8:54:14 PM5/13/13
to
You might as well be trying to convert the Pope into becoming a
Zionist Jew, or attaching wings to pigs.
HVAC
May 13, 2013, 9:46:55 PM5/13/13
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On 5/13/2013 8:54 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
>>>> On Apr 29, 11:24 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Aether has mass.
>>
>>> Ether doesn't exist except in the 'minds' of kooks.
>>
>
>>>> On Apr 29, 11:24 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Aether has mass.
>>
>>> Ether doesn't exist except in the 'minds' of kooks.
>>
> There is nothing in your reply to Harlow that's ever going to matter.
> You might as well be trying to convert the Pope into becoming a
> Zionist Jew, or attaching wings to pigs.
For once in your life, Goth, you are correct!
> You might as well be trying to convert the Pope into becoming a
> Zionist Jew, or attaching wings to pigs.
Here's a cookie...
mpc755
May 13, 2013, 10:52:25 PM5/13/13
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On May 13, 9:46 pm, HVAC <harlowcampb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/13/2013 8:54 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
>
>
> >>>> On Apr 29, 11:24 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Aether has mass.
>
> >>> Ether doesn't exist except in the 'minds' of kooks.
>
> > There is nothing in your reply to Harlow that's ever going to matter.
> > You might as well be trying to convert the Pope into becoming a
> > Zionist Jew, or attaching wings to pigs.
>
> For once in your life, Goth, you are correct!
>
> On 5/13/2013 8:54 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
>
>
> >>>> On Apr 29, 11:24 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Aether has mass.
>
> >>> Ether doesn't exist except in the 'minds' of kooks.
>
> > There is nothing in your reply to Harlow that's ever going to matter.
> > You might as well be trying to convert the Pope into becoming a
> > Zionist Jew, or attaching wings to pigs.
>
> For once in your life, Goth, you are correct!
>
Brad Guth
May 13, 2013, 11:01:50 PM5/13/13
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simply proves how totally gullible you are. In any classroom,
research environment or think-tank, Harlow would be expelled and
forbidden to ever return.
mpc755
May 14, 2013, 9:18:25 AM5/14/13
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Brad Guth
May 14, 2013, 9:33:44 AM5/14/13
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http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986
mpc755
May 14, 2013, 10:44:39 AM5/14/13
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Brad Guth
May 14, 2013, 10:59:44 AM5/14/13
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In other words, you can't go at this alone, so why not work with
others similar to your independent status of advancing physics and
science?
Do you have any following of K-12s?
HVAC
May 14, 2013, 11:23:56 AM5/14/13
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On 5/14/2013 10:44 AM, mpc755 wrote:
> On May 14, 9:33 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps you and Plutonium Archimedes could work as a publishing team.
>>
>> http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986
>
> Aether has mass.
Ether doesn't exist. In the world of physics, ether counts as much as
> On May 14, 9:33 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps you and Plutonium Archimedes could work as a publishing team.
>>
>> http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986
>
> Aether has mass.
does god. Neither matter even one bit. Neither matter in any
calculation or equation*
* Except of course for Bert's G(god)=EMC^2
mpc755
May 14, 2013, 11:25:42 AM5/14/13
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On May 14, 10:59 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In other words, you can't go at this alone, so why not work with
> others similar to your independent status of advancing physics and
> science?
>
> In other words, you can't go at this alone, so why not work with
> others similar to your independent status of advancing physics and
> science?
>
mpc755
May 14, 2013, 11:26:14 AM5/14/13
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On May 14, 11:23 am, HVAC <harlowcampb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/14/2013 10:44 AM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > On May 14, 9:33 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Perhaps you and Plutonium Archimedes could work as a publishing team.
>
> >> http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986
>
> > Aether has mass.
>
> Ether doesn't exist. In the world of physics, ether counts as much as
> does god. Neither matter even one bit. Neither matter in any
> calculation or equation*
>
> On 5/14/2013 10:44 AM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > On May 14, 9:33 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Perhaps you and Plutonium Archimedes could work as a publishing team.
>
> >> http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986
>
> > Aether has mass.
>
> Ether doesn't exist. In the world of physics, ether counts as much as
> does god. Neither matter even one bit. Neither matter in any
> calculation or equation*
>
Brad Guth
May 14, 2013, 12:00:23 PM5/14/13
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On May 14, 8:25 am, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
David Staup
May 14, 2013, 12:07:10 PM5/14/13
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of all the kooks with theories here, you stand alone goofy....you funny
Brad Guth
May 14, 2013, 12:25:06 PM5/14/13
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what you typically post.
Have you ever posted anything original that truly mattered to anyone
other than yourself?
mpc755
May 14, 2013, 12:37:43 PM5/14/13
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Brad Guth
May 14, 2013, 12:43:37 PM5/14/13
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On May 14, 9:37 am, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 14, 12:00 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > So, why are you so deathly afraid to work with anyone else?
>
> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
> Aether is physically displaced by matter. There is no such thing as
> non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Matter moves through and
> displaces the aether.
>
In other words, you don't have another soul on Earth that's willing to
> On May 14, 12:00 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > So, why are you so deathly afraid to work with anyone else?
>
> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
> Aether is physically displaced by matter. There is no such thing as
> non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Matter moves through and
> displaces the aether.
>
work with you, much less have any K-12s reading your stuff, and you're
good with that.
mpc755
May 14, 2013, 12:47:12 PM5/14/13
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On May 14, 12:43 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In other words, you don't have another soul on Earth that's willing to
> work with you, much less have any K-12s reading your stuff, and you're
> good with that.
Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by matter. There is no such thing as
non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Matter moves through and
displaces the aether.
>
> In other words, you don't have another soul on Earth that's willing to
> work with you, much less have any K-12s reading your stuff, and you're
> good with that.
Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by matter. There is no such thing as
non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Matter moves through and
displaces the aether.
Brad Guth
May 14, 2013, 2:18:17 PM5/14/13
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mpc755
May 14, 2013, 2:58:31 PM5/14/13
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Brad Guth
May 14, 2013, 3:45:09 PM5/14/13
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On May 14, 11:58 am, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 14, 2:18 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > You don't have to keep proving that I'm right.
>
> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
> Aether is physically displaced by matter. There is no such thing as
> non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Matter moves through and
> displaces the aether.
>
You really don't have to keep proving that I'm right.
> On May 14, 2:18 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > You don't have to keep proving that I'm right.
>
> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
> Aether is physically displaced by matter. There is no such thing as
> non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Matter moves through and
> displaces the aether.
>
Absolutely Vertical
May 14, 2013, 4:07:41 PM5/14/13
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be able to help himself. so telling a compulsive person not to act on
his compulsions is like pissing upwind.
Brad Guth
May 14, 2013, 4:26:30 PM5/14/13
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On May 14, 1:07 pm, Absolutely Vertical <absolutelyverti...@gmail.com>
wrote:
You have a good point, although when he's properly medicated I find
some of the context offered by mpc755 to be quite reasonable, even if
it's extremely weird stuff that's hard to accept.
It's not that his external links are bogus or otherwise without
merit. He simply needs a few others besides myself to contribute at
least a few positive/constructive words on his behalf. mpc755
certainly means well enough.
wrote:
some of the context offered by mpc755 to be quite reasonable, even if
it's extremely weird stuff that's hard to accept.
It's not that his external links are bogus or otherwise without
merit. He simply needs a few others besides myself to contribute at
least a few positive/constructive words on his behalf. mpc755
certainly means well enough.
Absolutely Vertical
May 14, 2013, 4:40:56 PM5/14/13
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is no older than 7000 years. this doesn't mean that i should feel at all
compelled to contribute a few positive or constructive words on his behalf.
i for one do not think that ideas are good for their own sake and should
be encouraged without discretion. the point of science is not the
newness or originality of the idea, but rather how you test the idea to
see if it has any value.
mpc755
May 14, 2013, 5:17:20 PM5/14/13
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Absolutely Vertical
May 14, 2013, 5:21:32 PM5/14/13
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On 5/14/2013 4:17 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> The relativistic ether referred to by Laughlin is the hidden sub-
> quantum medium referred to by de Broglie is the ether which propagates
> light referred to by Einstein.
>
you were doing so well up to here, which is where it is flat wrong.
>
> The relativistic ether referred to by Laughlin is the hidden sub-
> quantum medium referred to by de Broglie is the ether which propagates
> light referred to by Einstein.
>
1treePetrifiedForestLane
May 14, 2013, 5:32:40 PM5/14/13
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the curvature of space (viz, spacetime (sic)) was uncovered
by Kepler, cosmographically, and Gauss terrestrially.
Newton's algebraization of the three orbital constraints can
be put in terms of curvature,
which is just the reciprocal of the diameter (viz, radius (sic)).
> Ether doesn't exist.
by Kepler, cosmographically, and Gauss terrestrially.
Newton's algebraization of the three orbital constraints can
be put in terms of curvature,
which is just the reciprocal of the diameter (viz, radius (sic)).
> Ether doesn't exist.
mpc755
May 14, 2013, 6:03:22 PM5/14/13
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'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
"Think of waves on the surface of water. Here we can describe two
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
entirely different things. Either we may observe how the undulatory
surface forming the boundary between water and air alters in the
course of time; or else-with the help of small floats, for instance -
we can observe how the position of the separate particles of water
alters in the course of time. If the existence of such floats for
tracking the motion of the particles of a fluid were a fundamental
impossibility in physics - if, in fact nothing else whatever were
observable than the shape of the space occupied by the water as it
varies in time, we should have no ground for the assumption that water
consists of movable particles. But all the same we could characterise
it as a medium."
if, in fact nothing else whatever were observable than the shape of
the space occupied by the aether as it varies in time, we should have
no ground for the assumption that aether consists of movable
particles. But all the same we could characterise it as a medium
having mass which is displaced by the particles of matter which exist
in it and move through it.
1treePetrifiedForestLane
May 14, 2013, 7:28:00 PM5/14/13
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> it as a medium."of free space,
with an index of refraction just over one,
behaving well (epectromagnetically,
permability & permitivity-wise etc.
mpc755
May 14, 2013, 7:34:21 PM5/14/13
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Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by matter. There is no such thing as
non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Matter moves through and
displaces the aether.
Aether is physically displaced by matter. There is no such thing as
non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Matter moves through and
displaces the aether.
'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
1treePetrifiedForestLane
May 14, 2013, 9:35:10 PM5/14/13
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incapable of playing, or typing, with others,
"mpc#" cannot even *look* at a question, and
Young's two-pinhole experiment was just one
in a huge number of experiments & mathematica,
showing conlusively that lightwaves are not corpuscles,
or "massless rocks o'light obeying Newton's ideal
of Snell's law of refraction.
go & fish!
"mpc#" cannot even *look* at a question, and
Young's two-pinhole experiment was just one
in a huge number of experiments & mathematica,
showing conlusively that lightwaves are not corpuscles,
or "massless rocks o'light obeying Newton's ideal
of Snell's law of refraction.
go & fish!
benj
May 14, 2013, 10:51:45 PM5/14/13
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On Tue, 14 May 2013 18:35:10 -0700, 1treePetrifiedForestLane wrote:
> incapable of playing, or typing, with others,
> "mpc#" cannot even *look* at a question, and Young's two-pinhole
> experiment was just one in a huge number of experiments & mathematica,
> showing conlusively that lightwaves are not corpuscles,
> or "massless rocks o'light obeying Newton's ideal of Snell's law of
> refraction.
>
> go & fish!
Strawman. Wrong information. Experiments showed "conlusively" that
> incapable of playing, or typing, with others,
> "mpc#" cannot even *look* at a question, and Young's two-pinhole
> experiment was just one in a huge number of experiments & mathematica,
> showing conlusively that lightwaves are not corpuscles,
> or "massless rocks o'light obeying Newton's ideal of Snell's law of
> refraction.
>
> go & fish!
lightwaves are corpuscles obeying wave equations or "massless rocks
o'light" whose STATISTICS obey wave mechanics. What has been proved
"conlusively" is that light CANNOT be waves in the EM sense.
Caught a trout.
mpc755
May 15, 2013, 7:06:57 AM5/15/13
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On May 14, 9:35 pm, 1treePetrifiedForestLane <Space...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587
'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a
limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I
feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really
is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've
learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've
lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any
natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to
make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new
systems ought to behave."'
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=new-double-slit-experiment-skirts-uncertainty-principle
"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an
unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave
theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that
takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through
both slits."
A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an
associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the
particle enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated wave in
the aether which passes through both. As the aether wave exits the
detecting the particle turns the associated aether wave into chop. The
particle gets knocked around by the chop and continues on the path it
is traveling.
What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.
wrote:
> incapable of playing, or typing, with others,
> "mpc#" cannot even *look* at a question, and
> Young's two-pinhole experiment was just one
> in a huge number of experiments & mathematica,
> showing conlusively that lightwaves are not corpuscles,
> or "massless rocks o'light obeying Newton's ideal
> of Snell's law of refraction.
>
> go & fish!
>
'Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment'
> "mpc#" cannot even *look* at a question, and
> Young's two-pinhole experiment was just one
> in a huge number of experiments & mathematica,
> showing conlusively that lightwaves are not corpuscles,
> or "massless rocks o'light obeying Newton's ideal
> of Snell's law of refraction.
>
> go & fish!
>
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587
'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a
limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I
feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really
is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've
learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've
lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any
natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to
make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new
systems ought to behave."'
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=new-double-slit-experiment-skirts-uncertainty-principle
"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an
unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave
theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that
takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through
both slits."
A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an
associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the
particle enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated wave in
the aether which passes through both. As the aether wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single
slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference.
This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Strongly
slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference.
detecting the particle turns the associated aether wave into chop. The
particle gets knocked around by the chop and continues on the path it
is traveling.
What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.
HVAC
May 15, 2013, 10:05:44 AM5/15/13
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On 5/14/2013 4:26 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> On May 14, 1:07 pm, Absolutely Vertical <absolutelyverti...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> you're talking with an asperger's compulsion-riddled semi-bot who won't
>> be able to help himself. so telling a compulsive person not to act on
>> his compulsions is like pissing upwind.
>
> You have a good point, although when he's properly medicated I find
> some of the context offered by mpc755 to be quite reasonable
Of COURSE Goth thinks MP3 is reasonable.
> On May 14, 1:07 pm, Absolutely Vertical <absolutelyverti...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> you're talking with an asperger's compulsion-riddled semi-bot who won't
>> be able to help himself. so telling a compulsive person not to act on
>> his compulsions is like pissing upwind.
>
> You have a good point, although when he's properly medicated I find
> some of the context offered by mpc755 to be quite reasonable
He's shit-house rat crazy himself.
mpc755
May 15, 2013, 10:16:57 AM5/15/13
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On May 15, 10:05 am, HVAC <harlowcampb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/14/2013 4:26 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
> > On May 14, 1:07 pm, Absolutely Vertical <absolutelyverti...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> you're talking with an asperger's compulsion-riddled semi-bot who won't
> >> be able to help himself. so telling a compulsive person not to act on
> >> his compulsions is like pissing upwind.
>
> > You have a good point, although when he's properly medicated I find
> > some of the context offered by mpc755 to be quite reasonable
>
> Of COURSE Goth thinks MP3 is reasonable.
> On 5/14/2013 4:26 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
> > On May 14, 1:07 pm, Absolutely Vertical <absolutelyverti...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> you're talking with an asperger's compulsion-riddled semi-bot who won't
> >> be able to help himself. so telling a compulsive person not to act on
> >> his compulsions is like pissing upwind.
>
> > You have a good point, although when he's properly medicated I find
> > some of the context offered by mpc755 to be quite reasonable
>
> Of COURSE Goth thinks MP3 is reasonable.
Brad Guth
May 15, 2013, 10:26:31 AM5/15/13
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On May 14, 1:40 pm, Absolutely Vertical <absolutelyverti...@gmail.com>
wrote:
There does seem to be some scientific value to at least considering
aether.
Anything that moves or vibrates at FTL we can't directly detect
anyway.
wrote:
aether.
Anything that moves or vibrates at FTL we can't directly detect
anyway.
Sam Wormley
May 15, 2013, 10:41:22 AM5/15/13
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On 5/15/13 9:26 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Anything that moves or vibrates at FTL we can't directly detect
> anyway.
Why do you say that, Brad? Why wouldn't we be able to detect something
> Anything that moves or vibrates at FTL we can't directly detect
> anyway.
moving faster that light, say by Cherenkov radiation.
Absolutely Vertical
May 15, 2013, 11:26:07 AM5/15/13
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On 5/15/2013 9:26 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>> i'm sure a creationist means well enough when he claims that the earth
>> >is no older than 7000 years. this doesn't mean that i should feel at all
>> >compelled to contribute a few positive or constructive words on his behalf.
>> >
>> >i for one do not think that ideas are good for their own sake and should
>> >be encouraged without discretion. the point of science is not the
>> >newness or originality of the idea, but rather how you test the idea to
>> >see if it has any value.
> There does seem to be some scientific value to at least considering
> aether.
i don't have an objection to considering aether. as i said earlier, what
>> i'm sure a creationist means well enough when he claims that the earth
>> >is no older than 7000 years. this doesn't mean that i should feel at all
>> >compelled to contribute a few positive or constructive words on his behalf.
>> >
>> >i for one do not think that ideas are good for their own sake and should
>> >be encouraged without discretion. the point of science is not the
>> >newness or originality of the idea, but rather how you test the idea to
>> >see if it has any value.
> There does seem to be some scientific value to at least considering
> aether.
is important in science is not the idea, but rather how you test the
idea to see if has any value. this idea has already been through that
wringer of tests, and anyone bringing up the idea should be _thoroughly_
familiar with the tests that have been applied and what this says about
the value of the idea.
fool's gold is called that for a reason.
mpc755
May 15, 2013, 11:31:55 AM5/15/13
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On May 15, 11:26 am, Absolutely Vertical
In a double slit experiment it is the aether which waves.
HVAC
May 15, 2013, 11:58:59 AM5/15/13
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Since nothing can travel FTL in our universe, there is no possible way
that it could be detected.
QED
Sam Wormley
May 15, 2013, 12:20:49 PM5/15/13
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On 5/15/13 10:58 AM, HVAC wrote:
>
> Since nothing can travel FTL in our universe, there is no possible way
> that it could be detected.
>
> QED
New Constraints on Neutrino Velocities
>
> Since nothing can travel FTL in our universe, there is no possible way
> that it could be detected.
>
> QED
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1109.6562v1.pdf
> The OPERA collaboration has claimed that muon neutrinos with mean
> energy of 17.5 GeV travel 730 km from CERN to the Gran Sasso at a
> speed exceeding that of light by about 7.5 km/s or 25 ppm. However,
> we show that such *superluminal neutrinos* would lose energy rapidly
> via the *bremsstrahlung of electron-positron pairs* (ν → ν + e− + e+).
> For the claimed superluminal neutrino velocity and at the stated mean
> neutrino energy, we find that most of the neutrinos would have
> suffered several pair emissions en route, causing the beam to be
> depleted of higher energy neutrinos. Thus we refute the superluminal
> interpretation of the OPERA result. Furthermore, we appeal to
> Super-Kamiokande and IceCube data to establish strong new limits on
> the superluminal propagation of high-energy neutrinos.
David Staup
May 15, 2013, 1:10:38 PM5/15/13
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On 5/14/2013 11:25 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> On May 14, 9:07 am, David Staup <dst...@charter.net> wrote:
>> On 5/4/2013 12:21 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 4, 10:00 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/4/13 11:45 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>>
>>>>> On May 4, 9:35 am, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> A particle is a moving singularity which has an associated aether
>>>>>>> displacement wave.
>>
>>
>>>>>> "The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the
>>>>>> elastic forces which cause [its] propagation, and inversely
>>>>>> proportional to the mass of the aether moved by these forces."
>>
>>>>>> Einstein is describing the state of displacement of the aether.
>>
>>>>>> The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the
>>>>>> elastic forces which cause its propagation, and inversely proportional
>>>>>> to the mass of the aether displaced by these forces.
>>
>>>>>> The relativistic mass of an object is the mass of the object and the
>>>>>> mass of the aether connected to and neighboring the object which is
>>>>>> displaced by the object. The faster an object moves with respect to
>>>>>> the state of the aether in which it exists the greater the
>>>>>> displacement of the aether by the object the greater the relativistic
>>>>>> mass of the object.
>>
>>>>> That's better worded and needs only a little collaboration in a
>>>>> positive/constructive way. Unfortunately, there's not one example of
>>>>> our resident oligarch and/or faith-based funded FUD-masters as having
>>>>> ever allowed any such intellectual or scientific support that could
>>>>> possibly benefit an outsider like yourself.
>>
>>>>> Whenever they(our resident brown nosed FUD-masters) like, it seems
>>>>> Einstein can be trashed in order to suit their closed mindset, or by
>>>>> the same token Einstein can be utilized to trash others. In other
>>>>> words, this Usenet/newsgroup version of intellectual bipolarism is
>>>>> every bit as mainstream terrorist worthy as it gets.
>>
>>>>> http://translate.google.com/#
>>>>> Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/ Guth
>>>>> Venus , GuthVenus
>>
>>>> Hey Brad, you left out:
>>>> http://www.google.com/search?q=guth+site%3Acrank.net
>>
>>> You have no intentions of ever being topic positive or constructive,
>>> so why are you here?
>>
>>> Did your oligarch peers tell you to get off your redneck butt and
>>> topic/author stalk so that you can post more FUD?
>>
>> Stalk?....you?....here?
>> of all the kooks with theories here, you stand alone goofy....you funny
>
> That's what topic/author stalking and FUD is all about, is exactly
> what you typically post.
>
> Have you ever posted anything original that truly mattered to anyone
> other than yourself?
>
HERE.........lol
you funny
Dude have you EVER posted anything anywhere that matters....say one of
the ACTUAL research groups????
LOL
> On May 14, 9:07 am, David Staup <dst...@charter.net> wrote:
>> On 5/4/2013 12:21 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 4, 10:00 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/4/13 11:45 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>>
>>>>> On May 4, 9:35 am, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> displacement wave.
>>
>>>>>>> In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined path
>>>>>>> which takes it through one slit. The associated wave in the aether
>>>>>>> passes through both. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates
>>>>>>> wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction
>>>>>>> it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave
>>>>>>> wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction
>>>>>>> it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave
>>>>>>> piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Detecting the particle
>>>>>>> strongly exiting a single slit destroys the coherence between the
>>>>>>> particle and its associated wave in the aether.
>>
>>>>>>> What ripples when galaxy clusters collide is what waves in a double
>>>>>>> slit experiment; the aether.
>>
>>>>>>> Einstein's gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave. Both are
>>>>>>> waves in the aether.
>>
>>>>>> 'Albert Einstein's 'First' Paper'http://www.efiko.org/material/Albert%20Einstein%5c%27s%20First%20Pape...
>>>>>>> strongly exiting a single slit destroys the coherence between the
>>>>>>> particle and its associated wave in the aether.
>>
>>>>>>> What ripples when galaxy clusters collide is what waves in a double
>>>>>>> slit experiment; the aether.
>>
>>>>>>> Einstein's gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave. Both are
>>>>>>> waves in the aether.
>>
>>
>>>>>> "The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the
>>>>>> elastic forces which cause [its] propagation, and inversely
>>>>>> proportional to the mass of the aether moved by these forces."
>>
>>>>>> Einstein is describing the state of displacement of the aether.
>>
>>>>>> The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the
>>>>>> elastic forces which cause its propagation, and inversely proportional
>>>>>> to the mass of the aether displaced by these forces.
>>
>>>>>> The relativistic mass of an object is the mass of the object and the
>>>>>> mass of the aether connected to and neighboring the object which is
>>>>>> displaced by the object. The faster an object moves with respect to
>>>>>> the state of the aether in which it exists the greater the
>>>>>> displacement of the aether by the object the greater the relativistic
>>>>>> mass of the object.
>>
>>>>> That's better worded and needs only a little collaboration in a
>>>>> positive/constructive way. Unfortunately, there's not one example of
>>>>> our resident oligarch and/or faith-based funded FUD-masters as having
>>>>> ever allowed any such intellectual or scientific support that could
>>>>> possibly benefit an outsider like yourself.
>>
>>>>> Whenever they(our resident brown nosed FUD-masters) like, it seems
>>>>> Einstein can be trashed in order to suit their closed mindset, or by
>>>>> the same token Einstein can be utilized to trash others. In other
>>>>> words, this Usenet/newsgroup version of intellectual bipolarism is
>>>>> every bit as mainstream terrorist worthy as it gets.
>>
>>>>> http://translate.google.com/#
>>>>> Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/ Guth
>>>>> Venus , GuthVenus
>>
>>>> Hey Brad, you left out:
>>>> http://www.google.com/search?q=guth+site%3Acrank.net
>>
>>> You have no intentions of ever being topic positive or constructive,
>>> so why are you here?
>>
>>> Did your oligarch peers tell you to get off your redneck butt and
>>> topic/author stalk so that you can post more FUD?
>>
>> Stalk?....you?....here?
>> of all the kooks with theories here, you stand alone goofy....you funny
>
> That's what topic/author stalking and FUD is all about, is exactly
> what you typically post.
>
> Have you ever posted anything original that truly mattered to anyone
> other than yourself?
>
HERE.........lol
you funny
Dude have you EVER posted anything anywhere that matters....say one of
the ACTUAL research groups????
LOL
HVAC
May 15, 2013, 1:27:48 PM5/15/13
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that something goes FTL means that all of our physics would have to be
thrown out and a completely new form of physics must be invented.
Give me a shout when that day comes...
Sam Wormley
May 15, 2013, 2:15:14 PM5/15/13
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On 5/15/13 12:27 PM, HVAC wrote:
> What Goth and the rest of the kooks fail to realize is that claiming
> that something goes FTL means that all of our physics would have to be
> thrown out and a completely new form of physics must be invented.
>
> Give me a shout when that day comes...
I have observed for many years, that Brad just make stuff up instead
> What Goth and the rest of the kooks fail to realize is that claiming
> that something goes FTL means that all of our physics would have to be
> thrown out and a completely new form of physics must be invented.
>
> Give me a shout when that day comes...
of finding what the science actually says.
1treePetrifiedForestLane
May 15, 2013, 2:43:06 PM5/15/13
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ought to be have, I see, like signtiffic merrikcan.
> > Newton's ideal
> > of Snell's law of refraction.
> > Newton's ideal
> > of Snell's law of refraction.
> natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to
> make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new
> systems ought to behave."'
> make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new
> systems ought to behave."'
> What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.
if you say, Duh, we know what you mean.
1treePetrifiedForestLane
May 15, 2013, 2:45:01 PM5/15/13
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more powerful, them than their anagram.
> of finding what the science actually saysURL::/astropunk
> of finding what the science actually saysURL::/astropunk
mpc755
May 15, 2013, 2:47:14 PM5/15/13
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On May 15, 2:43 pm, 1treePetrifiedForestLane <Space...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
wrote:
'Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587
'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a
limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I
feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really
is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've
learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've
lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587
'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a
limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I
feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really
is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've
learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've
lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any
natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to
make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new
systems ought to behave."'
make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new
systems ought to behave."'
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=new-double-slit-experiment-skirts-uncertainty-principle
"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an
unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave
theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that
takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through
both slits."
A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an
associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the
particle enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated wave in
the aether which passes through both. As the aether wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single
slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference.
This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Strongly
detecting the particle turns the associated aether wave into chop. The
particle gets knocked around by the chop and continues on the path it
is traveling.
"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an
unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave
theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that
takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through
both slits."
A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an
associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the
particle enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated wave in
the aether which passes through both. As the aether wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single
slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference.
This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Strongly
detecting the particle turns the associated aether wave into chop. The
particle gets knocked around by the chop and continues on the path it
is traveling.
mpc755
May 15, 2013, 2:48:22 PM5/15/13
to
'Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587
'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a
limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I
feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really
is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've
learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've
lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587
'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a
limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I
feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really
is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've
learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've
lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any
natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to
make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new
systems ought to behave."'
make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new
systems ought to behave."'
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=new-double-slit-experiment-skirts-uncertainty-principle
"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an
unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave
theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that
takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through
both slits."
A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an
associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the
particle enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated wave in
the aether which passes through both. As the aether wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single
slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference.
This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Strongly
detecting the particle turns the associated aether wave into chop. The
particle gets knocked around by the chop and continues on the path it
is traveling.
"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an
unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave
theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that
takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through
both slits."
A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an
associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the
particle enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated wave in
the aether which passes through both. As the aether wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single
slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference.
This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Strongly
detecting the particle turns the associated aether wave into chop. The
particle gets knocked around by the chop and continues on the path it
is traveling.
HVAC
May 15, 2013, 3:26:31 PM5/15/13
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mpc755
May 15, 2013, 10:09:11 PM5/15/13
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displacement wave.
In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined path
passes through both. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates
wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction
it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave
wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction
it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave
1treePetrifiedForestLane
May 15, 2013, 10:22:07 PM5/15/13
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aether has vole-uptuos etymology,
he who dare not be quoted, because
verbal diarrhoea might be contagious.
he who dare not be quoted, because
verbal diarrhoea might be contagious.
mpc755
May 15, 2013, 10:39:02 PM5/15/13
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HVAC
May 16, 2013, 6:14:12 AM5/16/13
to
On 5/15/2013 10:09 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
All you children at home. Don't listen to MP3 and his talk about ether.
>
> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Ether does not exist and more than does a ghost.
mpc755
May 16, 2013, 7:07:23 AM5/16/13
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On May 16, 6:14 am, HVAC <harlowcampb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/15/2013 10:09 PM, mpc755 wrote:
> >
>
> > Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
>
> All you children at home. Don't listen to MP3 and his talk about ether.
>
> Ether does not exist and more than does a ghost.
> On 5/15/2013 10:09 PM, mpc755 wrote:
> >
>
> > Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
>
> All you children at home. Don't listen to MP3 and his talk about ether.
>
> Ether does not exist and more than does a ghost.
benj
May 16, 2013, 10:07:27 AM5/16/13
to
On Thu, 16 May 2013 06:14:12 -0400, HVAC wrote:
> On 5/15/2013 10:09 PM, mpc755 wrote:
> >
>> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
>
>
> All you children at home. Don't listen to MP3 and his talk about ether.
>
> Ether does not exist and more than does a ghost.
The above is HVAC at work. "Saving" children from "heresy".
> On 5/15/2013 10:09 PM, mpc755 wrote:
> >
>> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
>
>
> All you children at home. Don't listen to MP3 and his talk about ether.
>
> Ether does not exist and more than does a ghost.
Remember kiddies if you don't believe everything HVAC tells you without
question, he will burn you at the stake so you can personally test his
"ghost" theory.
Career as "physicist"!1! Bwahahahaha!
Brad Guth
May 16, 2013, 12:34:20 PM5/16/13
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least quantified if ever identified, and aether could be that kind of
illusive stuff.
Sam Wormley
May 16, 2013, 1:41:09 PM5/16/13
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On 5/16/13 11:34 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Anything that moves or vibrates FTL is going to remain illusive and
> least quantified if ever identified, and aether could be that kind of
> illusive stuff.
No Brad, no need or evidence for aether.
> Anything that moves or vibrates FTL is going to remain illusive and
> least quantified if ever identified, and aether could be that kind of
> illusive stuff.
Mike Cavedon
May 16, 2013, 4:19:40 PM5/16/13
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Mike Cavedon
May 16, 2013, 4:19:59 PM5/16/13
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aether. It's what waves.
HVAC
May 16, 2013, 5:08:31 PM5/16/13
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On 5/16/2013 10:07 AM, benj wrote:
>
>>> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
>>
>>
>> All you children at home. Don't listen to MP3 and his talk about ether.
>>
>> Ether does not exist and more than does a ghost.
>
>
> The above is HVAC at work. "Saving" children from "heresy".
>
> Remember kiddies if you don't believe everything HVAC tells you without
> question, he will burn you at the stake so you can personally test his
> "ghost" theory.
Oh, I forgot. You're a believer. A believer in ghosts, ether and god.
>
>>> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
>>
>>
>> All you children at home. Don't listen to MP3 and his talk about ether.
>>
>> Ether does not exist and more than does a ghost.
>
>
> The above is HVAC at work. "Saving" children from "heresy".
>
> Remember kiddies if you don't believe everything HVAC tells you without
> question, he will burn you at the stake so you can personally test his
> "ghost" theory.
benj
May 16, 2013, 5:31:46 PM5/16/13
to
On Thu, 16 May 2013 17:08:31 -0400, HVAC wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 10:07 AM, benj wrote:
>>
>>>> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
>>>
>>>
>>> All you children at home. Don't listen to MP3 and his talk about
>>> ether.
>>>
>>> Ether does not exist and more than does a ghost.
>>
>>
>> The above is HVAC at work. "Saving" children from "heresy".
>>
>> Remember kiddies if you don't believe everything HVAC tells you without
>> question, he will burn you at the stake so you can personally test his
>> "ghost" theory.
>
>
> Oh, I forgot. You're a believer. A believer in ghosts, ether and god.
Hey, Mr. "career physicist", Why don't you talk about the Milky Way's
> On 5/16/2013 10:07 AM, benj wrote:
>>
>>>> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
>>>
>>>
>>> All you children at home. Don't listen to MP3 and his talk about
>>> ether.
>>>
>>> Ether does not exist and more than does a ghost.
>>
>>
>> The above is HVAC at work. "Saving" children from "heresy".
>>
>> Remember kiddies if you don't believe everything HVAC tells you without
>> question, he will burn you at the stake so you can personally test his
>> "ghost" theory.
>
>
> Oh, I forgot. You're a believer. A believer in ghosts, ether and god.
Halo in curved spacetime. That's sort of a "ghost" is it not?
mpc755
May 16, 2013, 6:13:02 PM5/16/13
to
On May 16, 5:08 pm, HVAC <harlowcampb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 10:07 AM, benj wrote:
>
>
>
> >>> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
>
> >> All you children at home. Don't listen to MP3 and his talk about ether.
>
> >> Ether does not exist and more than does a ghost.
>
> > The above is HVAC at work. "Saving" children from "heresy".
>
> > Remember kiddies if you don't believe everything HVAC tells you without
> > question, he will burn you at the stake so you can personally test his
> > "ghost" theory.
>
> Oh, I forgot. You're a believer. A believer in ghosts, ether and god.
>
> On 5/16/2013 10:07 AM, benj wrote:
>
>
>
> >>> Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
>
> >> All you children at home. Don't listen to MP3 and his talk about ether.
>
> >> Ether does not exist and more than does a ghost.
>
> > The above is HVAC at work. "Saving" children from "heresy".
>
> > Remember kiddies if you don't believe everything HVAC tells you without
> > question, he will burn you at the stake so you can personally test his
> > "ghost" theory.
>
> Oh, I forgot. You're a believer. A believer in ghosts, ether and god.
>
1treePetrifiedForestLane
May 16, 2013, 6:13:23 PM5/16/13
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look at this quote from threeMP,
presumably referring to a light behind the sub,
eclipsing the observer, but leaving all
of the classical diffractive wave phenomena; therefore,
water;s refractive index "is the God-am aether."
> about the Milky Way's
> Halo in curved spacetime. That's sort of-
hey, space is curved locally a.k.a. gravity,
expressed classically by Gauss'es two-form fulfulliment
of the Gauss-Bonnet theorem, but known more simply as,
"curvature is the reciprocal of diameter."
The geometrical representation of gravity as curved spacetime
physically exists in nature as the state of displacement of the
aether.
so, I also just saw his analogy with a sub,
physically exists in nature as the state of displacement of the
aether.
presumably referring to a light behind the sub,
eclipsing the observer, but leaving all
of the classical diffractive wave phenomena; therefore,
water;s refractive index "is the God-am aether."
> about the Milky Way's
hey, space is curved locally a.k.a. gravity,
expressed classically by Gauss'es two-form fulfulliment
of the Gauss-Bonnet theorem, but known more simply as,
"curvature is the reciprocal of diameter."
mpc755
May 16, 2013, 6:15:24 PM5/16/13
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evidence of curved spacetime right in front of them; however, to
acknowledge this evidence of curved spacetime is to acknowledge the
aether so they choose to remain ignorant of understanding the Milky
Way's halo IS curved spacetime.
It would be funny if it wasn't so ironic.
Sam Wormley
May 16, 2013, 6:22:30 PM5/16/13
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19th century and earlier.
Brad Guth
May 16, 2013, 6:30:55 PM5/16/13
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feeble closed mindset.
BTW; all black holes demonstrate as a node of FTL, but then so does
photon entanglement.
The polar jet of a BH is probably another form of quantum
entanglement, or perhaps a flow of aether as proposed by mpc755.
Absolutely Vertical
May 16, 2013, 6:32:05 PM5/16/13
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waves in the double slit experiment. if you don't do that, then you are
only confessing your unwillingness to acknowledge the truth.
Absolutely Vertical
May 16, 2013, 6:35:25 PM5/16/13
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On 5/16/2013 5:30 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> And yet anything moving or vibrating FTL is still undetectable to your
> feeble closed mindset.
bradguth, if you're going to propose something undetectable as the
> And yet anything moving or vibrating FTL is still undetectable to your
> feeble closed mindset.
explanation for anything, then you may as well be talking about gremlins
or leprechauns.
Absolutely Vertical
May 16, 2013, 6:36:19 PM5/16/13
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never mind.
Brad Guth
May 16, 2013, 6:42:18 PM5/16/13
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to death) about anything proposed or even the least bit revised by
outsiders like yourself.
If Einstein wasn't already well known, and instead as an outsider
posting anything within Usenet/newsgroups dominated by the likes of
Sam and Harlow would have him systematically trashed and sent packing
within days (especially if he wasn't Jewish).
Are you even a little bit Jewish?
BTW; Harlow and Sam each love to associate themselves with wife
beaters.
1treePetrifiedForestLane
May 16, 2013, 6:49:18 PM5/16/13
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there is no lower bound -- that I know of -- on cycles per second
of vibrations ... well,
I guess it would be "jumps" in the outermost orbits
of heavy metals, but what ever it is, it has
to be sub-femtosecond.
of vibrations ... well,
I guess it would be "jumps" in the outermost orbits
of heavy metals, but what ever it is, it has
to be sub-femtosecond.
1treePetrifiedForestLane
May 16, 2013, 6:55:30 PM5/16/13
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once, again, thre is no absolute (pascalian) vacuum, EVEN THOUGH
Pascal discovered the max heighth of a stage
of a suction pump (at sealevel "one atmos.,"
however many units Pascal, that is .-)
thereby, there is a "medium of free space,
whose index of refraction is greater than one --
but not too much greater!"
> waves in the double slit experiment. if you don't do that, then you are
thus:
I also saw his analogy with a submarine (boat),
hey, space is curved locally a.k.a. gravity,
expressed classically by Gauss's "two-form" fulfulliment
Pascal discovered the max heighth of a stage
of a suction pump (at sealevel "one atmos.,"
however many units Pascal, that is .-)
thereby, there is a "medium of free space,
whose index of refraction is greater than one --
but not too much greater!"
> waves in the double slit experiment. if you don't do that, then you are
I also saw his analogy with a submarine (boat),
presumably referring to a light behind the sub,
eclipsing the observer in the way of the sub, but leaving all
of the classical diffractive wave phenomena; therefore,
"water's refractive index is the God-am aether, QEffnD."
hey, space is curved locally a.k.a. gravity,
HVAC
May 16, 2013, 7:32:15 PM5/16/13
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On 5/16/2013 6:30 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
> And yet anything moving or vibrating FTL is still undetectable to your
> feeble closed mindset.
Yes. You should have Goth's mindset. Then EVERYTHING is detectable.
>
> And yet anything moving or vibrating FTL is still undetectable to your
> feeble closed mindset.
> BTW; all black holes demonstrate as a node of FTL, but then so does
> photon entanglement.
> The polar jet of a BH is probably another form of quantum
> entanglement, or perhaps a flow of aether as proposed by mpc755.
HVAC
May 16, 2013, 7:37:21 PM5/16/13
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On 5/16/2013 6:42 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
> BTW; Harlow and Sam each love to associate themselves with wife
> beaters.
Lol
>
> BTW; Harlow and Sam each love to associate themselves with wife
> beaters.
Sam Wormley
May 16, 2013, 7:47:23 PM5/16/13
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On 5/16/13 5:42 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Mainstream physics and its science is extremely paranoid (aka scared
> to death) about anything proposed or even the least bit revised by
> outsiders like yourself.
No Brad, mainstream physics is very robust. The primary theories are
> Mainstream physics and its science is extremely paranoid (aka scared
> to death) about anything proposed or even the least bit revised by
> outsiders like yourself.
very fruitful tools for physicists and astronomers. You appear to
disparage physics because you never learned it. :-o
mpc755
May 16, 2013, 9:22:49 PM5/16/13
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587
'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a
limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I
feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really
is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've
learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've
lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any
natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to
make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new
systems ought to behave."'
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"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an
unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave
theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that
takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through
both slits."
A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an
associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the
particle enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated wave in
the aether which passes through both. As the aether wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single
slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference.
This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Strongly
slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference.
detecting the particle causes a loss of coherence between the particle
and its associated wave in the aether.
What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.
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