Today night the physicists-criminals from CERN accelerated protons to the record energy 3.5 TeV per beam.
Magnetic
the record energy 3.5 TeV per beam. At the regions of collisions,
probably, the rays were on skew lines (two lines that do not intersect
but are not parallel). It is not excluded that there were accidental
collisions of protons.
If the collapse was switched, then most probably tomorrow morning all
people will start to cosmos.
According to plan the first collisions at 3.5 TeV must be fulfilled
the 30-th of March.
Bob Eld
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Magnetic
> Magnetic wrote:
>
> > Today night the physicists-criminals from CERN accelerated protons to
> > the record energy 3.5 TeV per beam. At the regions of collisions,
> > probably, the rays were on skew lines (two lines that do not intersect
> > but are not parallel). It is not excluded that there were accidental
> > collisions of protons.
>
> > If the collapse was switched, then most probably tomorrow morning all
> > people will start to cosmos.
>
> > According to plan the first collisions at 3.5 TeV must be fulfilled
> > the 30-th of March.
>
> >http://darkenergy.narod.ru/
>
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If you are concerned about this, please refer to the following web page:
http://www.hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/
It should help clarify your status vis-a-vis whether or not you have
been reduced to fundamental particles, or even pure random energy.
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Clay
My philosophy is simple. If the world has ended and all is destroyed -
I won't worry about it. And if the world is not destroyed and all is
the same - I still won't worry about it.
Clay
p.s. People have worried about the production of small black holes and
that leading to the destruction of our planet. But associated with the
production of small black holes is (according to theory) is Hawking
Radiation. Now astronomers have been looking for and have so far not
found Hawking radiation. So we have a couple of choices to ponder:
1) Hawking is wrong.
2) High energy particles from space (which have much greater energies
than the LHC) fail to produce little black holes.
And the Earth seems to have been here for quite a while, so I'm not
worried about little black holes since the on slaught of hadrons has
failed to destroy us yet.
Jens Stuckelberger
> If the collapse was switched, then most probably tomorrow morning all
> people will start to cosmos.
I get it: You are nothing but a mindless chatbot, right?
Tim Wescott
There's actually another dimension to this: According to the standard
model, black holes will not form. At those energies, black holes will
only form if one set of the myriad string theories is correct, _and_ the
little curled up dimensions in this string theory are fairly large. The
'black holes will form' is exciting because if it does it'll be an
unequivocal -- if unlikely -- proof that the string theorists really are
barking up trees in the right forest.
Sam Wormley
> Today night the physicists-criminals from CERN accelerated protons to
> the record energy 3.5 TeV per beam. At the regions of collisions,
> probably, the rays were on skew lines (two lines that do not intersect
> but are not parallel). It is not excluded that there were accidental
> collisions of protons.
>
The LHC temps are many orders of magnitude below those
of the very early universe. Even cosmic rays are 6-12
orders of magnitude greater than the LHC.
Wal
47a943...@z4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, magnet...@yandex.ua
says...
[...]
> If the collapse was switched, then most probably tomorrow morning all
> people will start to cosmos.
I don't think "cosmos" is a verb.
WangoTango
W...@somewhere.invalid says...
would in fact be very hot, and very short lived, as they quantum
evaporate. The universe if full of collisions every second, and 'it' is
still here.
Nicolas Bonneel
and even during its life, the small black-hole can only absorb matter
within its Schwarzschild radius. Which is "small" for a "small" backhole.
Everything outside is attracted in the same way as if it was not a
blackhole. If the blackhole has 100 tons of matter in a very small
volume, it would not attract me more than the building next to me which
weighs much more (and which basically almost doesn't attract me at all).
Michael Hosea
news:MPG.260d96046...@reader80.eternal-september.org...
Maybe it's a new dance.
Jerry Avins
I offer this one-sided bet to set your mind at ease: if we are still
whole after CERN goes operative, You pay me $1. Otherwise, I pay you
$1,000. Are you on?
Jerry
--
Discovery consists of seeing what everybody has seen, and thinking what
nobody has thought. .. Albert Szent-Gyorgi
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Jerry Avins
> ... The universe if full of collisions every second, and 'it' is
> still here.
How can we be sure?
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WangoTango
Maybe a little paint.......
Uncle Al
>
> WangoTango wrote:
>
> > ... The universe if full of collisions every second, and 'it' is
> > still here.
>
> How can we be sure?
1) Cosmic rays, then the Greisen忙atsepin訪uzmin limit.
2) idiot
--
Uncle Al
Sjouke Burry
It does not work.
He is like a maniak blind to all arguments and info.
Sam Wormley
> the record energy 3.5 TeV per beam. At the regions of collisions,
> probably, the rays were on skew lines (two lines that do not intersect
> but are not parallel). It is not excluded that there were accidental
> collisions of protons.
>
At 5:20 a.m., local time, in Geneva, Switzerland, physicists sent two
proton beams racing around the Large Hadron Collider's oval-shaped,
17-mile-long (27-kilometer-long) underground tunnel.
Each beam packed a powerful 3.5-trillion-electron-volt (TeV) punch—the
highest energy yet achieved in a particle accelerator, or atom smasher.
(Learn more about atom smashers.)
The Large Hadron Collider had also set the previous record. Last
December the LHC smashed two 1.18-TeV beams to create a 2.36-TeV collision.
Magnetic
Today morning they repeated yesturdays achivement.
But thre were no collisions yet.
The death is soon. :(
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/biz.html
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Proton, p = (uud).
Neutron, n = (udd).
Lambda, l = (uds).
Antiproton, p~ = (u~u~d~).
Antineutron, n~ = (u~d~d~).
Antilambda, l~ = (u~d~s~).
Hypertriton, T = (pnl).
Antihypertriton, T~ = (p~n~l~).
RHIC collides ions. That creates HOT quark gluon plasma.
Now LHC collides protons. In non-central inelastic collisions it can
tear out of a Dirac sea a COLD crystals of strange matter and
antimatter:
p + p = p + p + N(uds) + N(u~d~s~).
N is a number of lambda and antilambda in "strange nucleus or
antinucleus".
The number of nucleons in usual matter is limited, because of electric
repulsion between protons. The periodic system is limited by uranium.
The number of lambda (strange nucleons) in strange matter can be not
limited and it is possible that neutron stars are in fact are big
strange nuclei.
The strange matter can transform a usual matter into strange matter
because under big N the binding energy per nucleon in strange nucleus
is bigger than in usual matter under the same number of nucleons.
The binding energy can be find through the mass differences of
nucleons in free state and inside the nucleus.
Usual matter:
Mass of a free proton is 938.272 MeV/c^2.
Mass of a proton in deuteron is several MeV/c^2 less.
Mass of a proton in He is several MeV/c^2 less.
Mass of a proton in C is several MeV/c^2 less.
Mass of a proton in Fe is several MeV/c^2 less, and minimal.
These mass differences say us about binding energy.
Strange droplet consisting of a several (uds) is unstable and decay.
The mass of free lambda is 1116 MeV/c^2 and is almost 200 MeV/c^2
bigger than the mass of free proton or free neutron.
This is the cause of lambda decay.
Some authors said that strange nucleus, consisting of 10 lambdas, can
be stable.
The binding energy of one lambda in big strange nucleus can be, for
example, of about 500 MeV/c^2.
That means that strange nucleus can grow transforming usual nuclei
into strange ones.
The value 500 TeV, as a binding energy of (uds) in a strangelet
N(uds), can easily be received from comparison with the rest energy of
kaons K+ and K0, which are correspondingly 493 MeV and 497 MeV.
Kaons (K+=us~; K0=ds~) can be side products, occurring at the time of
proton (p=uud) and neutron (n=udd) capture by strange matter N(uds):
N(uds) + p = (N+1)(uds) + K+ = (N+1)(uds) + e+ + 500 MeV.
(N+1)(uds) + n = (N+2)(uds) + K0 = (N+2)(uds) + 500 MeV.
...
...
...
Extremely powerful explosion.
This explosion has specific energy output, which is hundred times
bigger than under the nuclear explosion.
By the way, at the time of November-December collisions there were
more Kaons output that it was theoretically predicted. That means that
we are very close to creation of this dead droplet, which can
transform the whole Earth into 10-meterr lump of strange\dead matter.
Space observations says us that periods of pulsars are almost do not
change. That means that strange matter is very stable.
Read about strange matter, strangelets, and strange stars in
Wikipedia. I think that our civilization is crazy. From one hand, it
already knows about a deadly dangerous strange matter; from the other
hand, it tries to create that dead droplet at colliders. I do not
understand you, people. I wish you to become mentally healthy and STOP
all powerful colliders.
As we can see, they can do at RHIC a strangelet (uds) and
antistrangelet (u~d~s~) but yet N=1.
The cause is ion collision, 200 GeV, per nucleon, leading to HOT quark
gluon plasma.
At LHC there will be proton collision, 3500 GeV per proton. At LHC two
COLD crystals can be created from Dirac’s quark sea. That is
absolutely different state. That is not hot quark gluon plasma, but
cold crystals, torn out of Dirac’s quark sea. Density of those
crystals can be hundred times bigger than the density of nuclear
matter and by hundred millions times more than the density of usual
solid matter.
Strange crystal, which can be made tomorrow at LHC, will kill us all.
p + p + 2*3.5 TeV= 6000(usd) + 6000(u~s~d~)
Strange crystal 6000(usd) is extremely stable and deadly dangerous!
This is a droplet of strange matter, embryo of a "neutron star". The
whole Earth can be transformed into such strange matter in a 1000 of
seconds or slightly more.
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Reaction p + p = p + p + N(uds) + N(u~d~s~) can also occur in the
collision of two cosmic protons or in a collision of cosmic and
atmospheric proton.
"Cosmo-cosmo" crystal’s creation in Solar system is very rarefied even
at the cosmology times. But they are not dangerous, because they can
be blown out of a Solar system by light of a Sun.
"Cosmo-atmospheric" crystals would have huge velocities in the Earth
atmosphere. As a result the particles of atmosphere would have TeV
energies in the reference systems of these crystals. These energies
are thousands times bigger than the specific binding energy of lambdas
in crystals. That will lead to destruction of "Cosmo-atmospheric"
crystals.
John
>My philosophy is simple. If the world has ended and all is destroyed -
>I won't worry about it. And if the world is not destroyed and all is
>the same - I still won't worry about it.
If the world is not destroyed and all is the same, it doesn't mean that you
don't have a reason to be worried...Unless you just don't care about
anything
going on around you?
What if you can prove that the experiments conducted at CERN can
destroy the world? Will you worry about it then??
PS: I'm not saying that the people who are against the CERN experiments
are right, but I applaud that they care...
Baron
He's a prat !
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
Jerry Avins
Nobody will care even if those people are right.
Jerry
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Discovery consists of seeing what everybody has seen, and thinking what
nobody has thought. .. Albert Szent-Gyorgi
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Sam Wormley
> Today morning they repeated yesturdays achivement.
> But thre were no collisions yet.
>
> The death is soon. :(
The LHC has smashed the energy record--Now to the future
"CERN says it will soon announce a timeline for converging the 3.5-TeV
beams, which together will yield another record: a collision at 7 TeV.
That will be the LHC's peak collision energy for 18–24 months before the
collider shuts down in 2012 for a year of hardware repairs; only after
that will CERN fire up the LHC at its design energy of 7 TeV per beam,
producing 14-TeV collisions. But given how much physicists have learned
from the much weaker Tevatron, even a half-strength LHC may have a
chance to open up new realms of physics".
Ref:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=lhc-surpasses-its-own-record-as-the-2010-03-19
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
Now there is a classical leftist weenie attitude; intent is more important
than results. Because the intent is pure, results don't matter.
Uncle Al
[snip]
> RHIC collides ions. That creates HOT quark gluon plasma.
> Now LHC collides protons. In non-central inelastic collisions it can
> tear out of a Dirac sea a COLD crystals of strange matter and
> antimatter:
[snip 140 lines of crap]
> "Cosmo-atmospheric" crystals would have huge velocities in the Earth
> atmosphere. As a result the particles of atmosphere would have TeV
> energies in the reference systems of these crystals. These energies
> are thousands times bigger than the specific binding energy of lambdas
> in crystals. That will lead to destruction of "Cosmo-atmospheric"
> crystals.
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v2/104
<http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100304/full/news.2010.108.html>
http://arxiv/abs/1003.2030
WangoTango
Jo...@yabadabadooo.com says...
>
> PS: I'm not saying that the people who are against the CERN experiments
> are right, but I applaud that they care...
thing doesn't matter, it is the warm fuzzies that make the world go
'round........
WOW!
rickman
> WangoTango wrote:
> > In article <MPG.260d9604645d433c989...@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
> > W...@somewhere.invalid says...
> >> In article <347753b0-85f2-4025-be1f-
> >> says...
> >> [...]
> >>> If the collapse was switched, then most probably tomorrow morning all
> >>> people will start to cosmos.
> >> I don't think "cosmos" is a verb.
>
> > Besides, if Hawking is correct, miniature black holes are not black, and
> > would in fact be very hot, and very short lived, as they quantum
> > evaporate. The universe if full of collisions every second, and 'it' is
> > still here.
>
> and even during its life, the small black-hole can only absorb matter
> within its Schwarzschild radius. Which is "small" for a "small" backhole.
> Everything outside is attracted in the same way as if it was not a
> blackhole. If the blackhole has 100 tons of matter in a very small
> volume, it would not attract me more than the building next to me which
> weighs much more (and which basically almost doesn't attract me at all).
There is one difference. The small black hole will not be stopped by
anything. So gravity would pull it toward the center of the earth; on
its way it will undoubtedly encounter more matter which crosses the
event horizon making it bigger. So if it doesn't instantly
vaporize... AND isn't contained in the field of the accelerator, it
will travel to the center of the earth, oscillating back and forth
many times eating tiny wormholes (the earthworm type, not the StarTrek
type) through the earth. If the center of the earth is liquid, these
wormholes will collapse and the consumption of the earth will continue
from the center out.
On the other hand, if Hawking is right, these black holes may exist
for such a short time that they are still confined in the accelerator
when they expire. After all, the fact that they are black holes does
not mean they aren't still protons. They will continue to follow the
curve of the magnetic fields they exist in.
Rick
Magnetic
head I would push it and I would direct it on Geneva.
Why? Am I crazy?
No! Those physicists of CERN are crazy.
To kill million of people with 100% probability is much more humane
than to wait the moment then CERN physicists would kill 6 700 000 000
people with 50% probability.
Dear people of Geneva, you are idiots, crazy on money. You are
criminals because you hosted the Snake in your city. CERN must by
ruin. CERN physicists and other physicists all over the world must be
punished if they did not understand yet the deadly danger of LHC.
Martin Brown
>
>> My philosophy is simple. If the world has ended and all is destroyed -
>> I won't worry about it. And if the world is not destroyed and all is
>> the same - I still won't worry about it.
>
> If the world is not destroyed and all is the same, it doesn't mean that you
> don't have a reason to be worried...Unless you just don't care about
> anything
> going on around you?
There have been delusional nutters claiming the world is going to end
for as long as anyone can remember. Very occasionally they are right in
some restricted sense - like Cassandra for instance in ancient Troy.
>
> What if you can prove that the experiments conducted at CERN can
> destroy the world? Will you worry about it then??
Iff I could prove it then yes. But some half baked lunatic nutters on
Usenet with delusions of adequacy is not going to cut the mustard.
Natural cosmic ray events with many times the energy have already
occurred in the vicinity of the Earth. The difference here is that at
CERN we can instrument them and see all the bits that come flying out.
Someone once unkindly described HEP as trying to understand the workings
of a pocket watch by smashing pairs of them together.
I just hope they do observe something new and interesting at these
energies. It is a huge investment to make only to be told - well we need
another one with twice the energy. But that is one likely outcome.
>
> PS: I'm not saying that the people who are against the CERN experiments
> are right, but I applaud that they care...
But they are hopelessly misguiding and so can be safely ignored.
Regards,
Martin Brown
Michael A. Terrell
Magnetic wrote:
>
> If I had an access to the start-button of a rocket with nuclear war-
> head I would push it and I would direct it on Geneva.
>
> Why? Am I crazy?
>
> No! Those physicists of CERN are crazy.
>
> To kill million of people with 100% probability is much more humane
> than to wait the moment then CERN physicists would kill 6 700 000 000
> people with 50% probability.
So, you are criminally insane and dangerous to the general public.
--
Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'
Tim Wescott
Please share this sentiment with your local police force, so they know
how patriotic (and safe!) you are. Especially if you're planning any
travel to Switzerland.
Tim Wescott
If the edge-case version of string theory that they're hoping to prove
is right the black hole will be smaller than a proton. If Hawking is
right, it'll evaporate before it has a chance to encounter any other matter.
It's highly unlikely that the particular version of string theory that
they're invoking will be right (it calls for the wrapped-up extra
dimensions of string theory to be much bigger than most other string
theories).
And string theory itself is based on the same conclusions and logic that
lead Hawking to deduce that black holes must evaporate -- so if the
unlikely edge-case string theory that says these will happen is right,
then the chances that Hawking radiation _won't_ take care of it is just
about practically nil.
OTOH, the chance that Magnetic is a raving lunatic or a troll is very
high, and the fact that he's making terrorist threats against Geneva is
absolutely uncontrovertible.
So you want to believe a terrorist?
Baron
>
> Magnetic wrote:
>>
>> If I had an access to the start-button of a rocket with nuclear war-
>> head I would push it and I would direct it on Geneva.
>>
>> Why? Am I crazy?
>>
>> No! Those physicists of CERN are crazy.
>>
>> To kill million of people with 100% probability is much more humane
>> than to wait the moment then CERN physicists would kill 6 700 000 000
>> people with 50% probability.
>
>
> So, you are criminally insane and dangerous to the general public.
>
He wants attention !
By spouting his insane predictions and people responding, he gets what
he craves.
As far a I'm concerned he should be institutionalized for his own
safety !
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
Magnetic
> OTOH, the chance that Magnetic is a raving lunatic or a troll is very
> high, and the fact that he's making terrorist threats against Geneva is
> absolutely uncontrovertible.
>
> So you want to believe a terrorist?
Idiot!
If you want to live, beat physicists.
Ruin CERN.
Write to Geneva and plead the citizens of Geneva to block the
entrances to LHC.
Otherwise we all will be killed by CERN’s criminals in some of nearest
days.
rickman
I wonder if they are going to make a disaster movie about this? BLACK
HOLE, The End of the World!, coming to a theater near you!
I guess one question is about the claim of cosmic rays being so much
more powerful than the collisions at CERN. If so, why can't they
study cosmic rays rather than build a multi-billion euro/dollar/pound
facility that may or may not be big enough to answer the questions
they seek answers to. Even if it does provide some insight, it will
be obsolete in what, five, ten years? Then they will be wanting to
build a new one that circles the globe, right?
I just can't see the point of pouring so much money into a project
that will likely raise more questions than it answers...
A scientist was giving a lecture on cosmology to a mixed audience.
Afterwords a little old lady approached him and told him that he was
wrong. Asking what he was wrong about, she replied that the Earth was
actually supported on the back of a very large turtle. Amused by this
idea he asked what the turtle was standing on. She replied that it
was standing on the backs of four other turtles. In turn he asked
what these turtles were standing on. Her reply, still more turtles...
this went on for a couple more rounds until the scientist asked again
and the lady replied, "Tut, tut young man! You can't fool me! It's
turtles all the way down!"
The CERN LHC is just going to show us the next level of turtles.
Rick
gil_johnson
>
> I guess one question is about the claim of cosmic rays being so much
> more powerful than the collisions at CERN. If so, why can't they
> study cosmic rays rather than build a multi-billion euro/dollar/pound
> facility that may or may not be big enough to answer the questions
> they seek answers to. Even if it does provide some insight, it will
> be obsolete in what, five, ten years? Then they will be wanting to
> build a new one that circles the globe, right?
>
The LHC can generate many collisions of known particles in a small
volume, inside a *massive* detector. Cosmic rays have been studied
but the information available with normal detectors is limited, and
waiting for a lucky collision inside a detector like that at CERN is
impractical - even graduate students couldn't be forced to wait that
long - Gil
rickman
For the billions it cost to build and run the LHC, I could wait...
Exactly what again is the question they are trying to answer?
Rick
Sam Wormley
>
>
> If you want to live, beat physicists.
> Ruin CERN.
> Write to Geneva and plead the citizens of Geneva to block the
> entrances to LHC.
>
You will certainly die, but it will probably be from smoking,
high blood pressure and drinking, not scientific study of the
very early universe.
Sjouke Burry
and unscrew some of the secrets of nature.
Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.
> Today night the physicists-criminals from CERN accelerated protons to
> the record energy 3.5 TeV per beam. At the regions of collisions,
> probably, the rays were on skew lines (two lines that do not intersect
> but are not parallel). It is not excluded that there were accidental
> collisions of protons.
>
> people will start to cosmos.
>
Today is March 23, and I personally am not in "cosmos".
When making idiotic predictions, do what Nostradamus did: don't
predict anything within your lifetime, predict 500 years ahead. And be
imaginative.
Richard Dobson
..
>
> I just can't see the point of pouring so much money into a project
> that will likely raise more questions than it answers...
>
But that is the whole point, surely. Or do you really want to tie up
physics knowledge in a pretty little packet and say like Lord Kelvin all
those years ago "There is nothing new to be discovered in physics now"?
Richard Dobson
PD
The LHC is not an experiment. It is a facility. It is a machine that
is capable of answering many questions. The big questions it MUST
answer include figuring out what happens at the 1 TeV energy scale. We
have only the Standard Model that has been tested so far, with superb
success, but we KNOW that the Standard Model breaks at this energy
scale, and something else has to kick in. There are a number of really
promising guesses as to what that something else is, and each of these
will be compared to experimental measurements to see which is the best
fit. It is also possible that none of them will fit, and we'll see new
phenomena that will point in the direction of a "something else" not
yet considered.
>
> Rick
PD
>
> I just can't see the point of pouring so much money into a project
> that will likely raise more questions than it answers...
It would be a disaster if it did not.
If you thought that the objective of science was to lock things up and
figure it all out, so that we wouldn't have any more questions to ask,
I'm afraid you've missed the point.
rickman
wrote:
I think you are the only person who understands my questions. The
point is that this is the sort of theoretical research that does not
have a timetable. The questions that are being asked are really the
same questions we have always had and will never have answers to...
because they are unanswerable.
I don't suggest that we should never try to answer unanswerable
questions, I am saying that we need to apportion an appropriate amount
of our efforts to these areas.
I love reading my Scientific American and learning about the structure
of the cosmos, at the enormously huge scales as well as at the
enormously tiny scales. But I don't mind waiting a few more years to
find out that everything we knew was wrong and we now know a new
everything that will be wrong again someday.
This is entertainment, not science. No, I guess in reality, science
really is just entertainment.
BTW, did you feel that just now? I think it was exactly the vibration
a microscopic black hole would make as it breached the magnetic field
of an accelerator and plunged to the core of the earth!
Be afraid... very afraid!
Rick
PS Is Sjouke Burry your real name??? That looks like a name they made
up on SNL.
Magnetic
>
> - Show quoted text -
If you want to live, beat physicists.
Ruin CERN.
Write to Geneva and plead the citizens of Geneva to block the
entrances to LHC.
Otherwise we all will be killed by CERN’s criminals in some of nearest
days.
Sjouke Burry
Sorry, I am not that person.
I want them to let us all know about the whichness of why
and unscrew some of the secrets of nature for us.
PD
A few comments.
First of all, the questions are not "unanswerable". Accelerators were
started in the 50's, and the Standard Model did not arise until the
1970's, so how particles behaved must have seemed just as
"unanswerable" in the 1950's and 1960's. But the Standard Model does
answer A LOT. Likewise here, we fully expect that the replacement for
the Standard Model will come at the hands of what we learn at the LHC,
and so it is in no way unanswerable. This does not mean that having an
answer causes further questions to cease. This is what I commented
previously.
Secondly, you characterize fundamental research (that is, research
that is done to find out "why" without so much of an eye to how to
apply it) is entertainment. For interested hobbyists, I'm sure that's
true, just as evolutionary biology might be to doctors or the search
for extrasolar planets might be to geologists. However, it is a
calling to people who are engaged in the work. This kind of R is the R
in R&D. The practical application of what we learn is the D. There is
a reason why R & D go hand in hand. Without R, D dries up after a
while. Without D, there is no practical benefit to the R. If you favor
D, then put yourself in a D profession, but don't question the value
of R if it's not the half you choose to do.
Third, I completely agree that the work should be funded
appropriately. This is precisely what the custodians of our tax
dollars are charged to do, and they ask people NOT ACTIVELY ENGAGED in
the work but who are sufficiently expert to provide advice on
priorities and balances. If you disagree with those priorities and
balances and would like to see more federal money spent on D rather
than R, by all means let your custodian know. I'll remind you that D
is supportable in private industry, because practical applications can
generate profit, but R needs a sponsor -- and this is the reason why
the federal government bears the burden where private industry is
unwilling. (Note this was not always the case.) I'll also remind you
that the LHC is a facility that will engage literally thousands of
physicists, all generating the usual complement of individual output.
So in terms of dollars per produced result, you'll discover that the
LHC is quite economical, compared to the work of solo investigators or
small university research teams.
PD
eric gisse
[...]
> Otherwise we all will be killed by CERN?s criminals in some of nearest
> days.
...and when we aren't, just like every other time you claimed we would be?
Tim Wescott
Perhaps we were, and we just _think_ we weren't.
Magnetic
All!
Do you understand this?
Think, what can you do to save your own skin, and try to do that –
kill Brian Cox, kill Rolf Heuer! Explode LHC! Bomb Geneva! Otherwise
they’ll kill you.
Ivan Gorelik.
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/
Michael Moroney
>Idiots, we all will be killed in a couple of days.
>All!
>Do you understand this?
Yes, I understand that you've been saying we'd all be "killed in a couple
of days" for many months now. Hasn't happened. Nor has four billion+
years of cosmic rays killed anyone.
[snip solicitation for murder]
>Ivan Gorelik.
Now you've gone over the line, soliciting murder. You are no better
than a lowly terrorist. Does anyone know where this Ivan Gorelik is
so he can be reported to the proper authorities before he harms anyone?
Jerry Avins
> Idiots, we all will be killed in a couple of days.
> All!
> Do you understand this?
> Think, what can you do to save your own skin, and try to do that –
> kill Brian Cox, kill Rolf Heuer! Explode LHC! Bomb Geneva! Otherwise
> they’ll kill you.
>
> Ivan Gorelik.
Hey, a landsman! My maternal grandmother was a Gorelik. (Alternate
spellings include Horlick, etc.) That explains everything!
The Goreliks aren't all related by blood. They all originally hailed
from the town of Gorel, which was burned out in a pogrom. People who
escaped and settled elsewhere became known as Goreliks, just as many
refugees from the Oklahoma dust bowl in the 1930s were called Okies.
Ivan is still in Russia. No wonder he's paranoid.
Jerry
--
Discovery consists of seeing what everybody has seen, and thinking what
nobody has thought. .. Albert Szent-Gyorgi
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Tim Wescott
Well, if it means you'll shut up at least some good will come of it.
You _have_ contacted your local mental health professionals, to let them
know just how evil-crazy these folks are? I'm sure your local shrinks
will have a lot to contribute to your welfare just as soon as you
impress upon them how you feel about this.
Uncle Al
>
> Idiots, we all will be killed in a couple of days.
> All!
> Do you understand this?
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v2/104
<http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100304/full/news.2010.108.html>
http://arxiv/abs/1003.2030
<http://www.jlab.org/news/releases/2006/hypernuclei.html>
idiot
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
Bart Goddard
d26a68...@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com:
> Idiots, we all will be killed in a couple of days.
> All!
> Do you understand this?
Yes, but we think it's a good thing. I don't know
how you haven't grasped this yet.
--
Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
Vladimir Vassilevsky
Michael Moroney wrote:
> Magnetic <magnet...@yandex.ua> writes:
>
>
>>Idiots, we all will be killed in a couple of days.
>>All!
>>Do you understand this?
He was missing somewhere for a few days. It is fun to see him again.
> Now you've gone over the line, soliciting murder. You are no better
> than a lowly terrorist. Does anyone know where this Ivan Gorelik is
> so he can be reported to the proper authorities before he harms anyone?
According to the information on his web page, mr. Gorelik is in Ukraine.
He was already visited by authorities; they found him harmless; there is
no cause to lock him.
Vladimir Vassilevsky
DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant
http://www.abvolt.com
Jerry Avins
> Idiots, we all will be killed in a couple of days.
> All!
> Do you understand this?
We won't be killed, as you put it. We will all simply cease to exist.
So what?
Androcles
"Michael Moroney" <mor...@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
news:hog51k$a17$1...@pcls6.std.com...
> Magnetic <magnet...@yandex.ua> writes:
>
>>Idiots, we all will be killed in a couple of days.
>>All!
>>Do you understand this?
>
> Yes, I understand
Bwahahahahahaha!
No you don't. A lying shit like you isn't capable of understanding anything.
illywhacker
It may be worth destroying the Earth just to remove you from the
Universe.
illywhacker;
porky_...@my-deja.com
> Michael Moroney wrote:
>
> According to the information on his web page, mr. Gorelik is in Ukraine.
> He was already visited by authorities; they found him harmless;
correction: *mostly* harmless.
(sorry, couldn't resist. that's my favorite line from Hitchhiker)
Somebody should tell him to drink some gorilka with a "shmat sala" and
relax.
eric gisse
> Idiots, we all will be killed in a couple of days.
> All!
> Do you understand this?
We understand that you are a paranoid schitzophrenic.
> Think, what can you do to save your own skin, and try to do that ?
> kill Brian Cox, kill Rolf Heuer! Explode LHC! Bomb Geneva! Otherwise
> they?ll kill you.
>
> Ivan Gorelik.
> http://darkenergy.narod.ru/
Darwin123
> Idiots, we all will be killed in a couple of days.
> All!
> Do you understand this?
been reduced to plasma in a magnetic hole. Your soul has persisted.
You are now in Hell.
jandrm
> On Mar 25, 12:42 pm, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>> Idiots, we all will be killed in a couple of days.
>> All!
>>
Well... smoke if u got em
John Larkin
Well, I'm still alive. Are you?
John
Eric Jacobsen
Les Cargill
> On 3/26/2010 6:45 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:56:10 -0700 (PDT), Darwin123
>> <drose...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 25, 12:42 pm, Magnetic<magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>>>> Idiots, we all will be killed in a couple of days.
>>>> All!
>>>> Do you understand this?
>>> The world ended 16 March 2010, just as you predicted. Your body has
>>> been reduced to plasma in a magnetic hole. Your soul has persisted.
>>> You are now in Hell.
>>>
>>
>> Well, I'm still alive. Are you?
>>
>> John
>
> How do you know?
>
>
>
SSHHH!
--
Les Cargill
Baron
I am, he's dead... Just a disembodied voice crying in the darkness of
oblivion.
--
Best Regards:
Baron.