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knews4...@yahoo.com

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AllYou!

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In your opinion, has there ever been any bad thing ever to occur in
the US that the jews or the government did not initiate?

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knews4...@yahoo.com <knews4...@yahoo.com> mused:

knews4...@yahoo.com

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On Dec 28, 4:02 pm, "AllYou!" <ida...@conversent.net> wrote:
> In your opinion, has there ever been any bad thing ever to occur in
> the US that the jews or the government did not initiate?
>
Well, why not when they tell us their plans?
http://www.henrymakow.com/illuminati_vowed_in_1969_trave.html

> Innews:19923e44-0f30-4e1f...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com,
> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> mused:


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> > On Dec 27, 11:59 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>http://www.legitgov.org/northwest_bomb_plot_oddities.html
>
> > Nothing suspicious here....
>

> >http://www.newworldorderreport.com/Articles/tabid/266/ID/744/Confirme...


>
> > Now just step into the X-Ray machine like a good little sheep
> > before

> > boarding or we will arrest you.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

knews4...@yahoo.com

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On Dec 28, 4:29 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Dec 28, 4:02 pm, "AllYou!" <ida...@conversent.net> wrote:> In your opinion, has there ever been any bad thing ever to occur in
> > the US that the jews or the government did not initiate?
>
> Well, why not when they tell us their plans?http://www.henrymakow.com/illuminati_vowed_in_1969_trave.html

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> > Innews:19923e44-0f30-4e1f...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com,
> > knews4u2c...@yahoo.com <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> mused:
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> > > On Dec 27, 11:59 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>http://www.legitgov.org/northwest_bomb_plot_oddities.html
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> > > Nothing suspicious here....
>
> > >http://www.newworldorderreport.com/Articles/tabid/266/ID/744/Confirme...
>
> > > Now just step into the X-Ray machine like a good little sheep
> > > before
> > > boarding or we will arrest you.- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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And why they do it.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4377.htm

AllYou!

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knews4...@yahoo.com <knews4...@yahoo.com> mused:

> On Dec 28, 4:02 pm, "AllYou!" <ida...@conversent.net> wrote:
>> In your opinion, has there ever been any bad thing ever to
>> occur in the US that the jews or the government did not
>> initiate?
>>
> Well, why not when they tell us their plans?
> http://www.henrymakow.com/illuminati_vowed_in_1969_trave.html

LOL! Thanks for once again providing us with a peek at your
credibility.


knews4...@yahoo.com

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On Dec 28, 3:49 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Dec 27, 11:59 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> >http://www.legitgov.org/northwest_bomb_plot_oddities.html
>
> Nothing suspicious here....
>
> http://www.newworldorderreport.com/Articles/tabid/266/ID/744/Confirme...

>
> Now just step into the X-Ray machine like a good little sheep before
> boarding or we will arrest you.

It only took a few minutes.....
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a4fzip9qPK44

Ouroboros Rex

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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/81356.html

Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009

Who's running the TSA? No one, thanks to Sen. Jim DeMint

WASHINGTON - An attempt to blow up a trans-Atlantic flight from Amsterdam to
Detroit on Christmas Day would be all-consuming for the administrator of the
Transportation Security Administration - if there were one.

The post remains vacant because Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., has held up
President Barack Obama's nominee in opposition to the prospect of TSA
workers joining a labor union.

As al Qaida claimed responsibility Monday for the thwarted attack and
President Barack Obama made a public statement about it, Democrats urged
DeMint to drop his objection and allow quick confirmation of nominee Erroll
Southers, a counterterrorism expert, when the Senate reconvenes in three
weeks.

Obama, speaking from Hawaii, where he and his family are vacationing, told
Americans, "We will not rest until we find all who were involved and hold
them accountable."

Obama warned anyone plotting against the U.S. from Afghanistan, Pakistan,
Yemen, Somalia or elsewhere that he doesn't intend to rest at simply
strengthening defense.

The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee announced a
hearing to be set for next month to examine how Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, a
23-year-old Nigerian whose name was in a terrorism database, boarded a plane
with explosive material.

"Why aren't airline passengers flying into the U.S. checked against the
broadest terrorist database and why isn't whole body scanning technology
that can detect explosives in wider use?" said committee chairman Sen.
Joseph Lieberman, a Connecticut independent.

Meanwhile, Florida Republican Rep. John Mica said in a statement that the
TSA had grown lost and bloated in bureaucracy and called for a review.

Mica also said Congress "must change the process by which TSA administrators
serve. There has been no TSA administrator for nearly a year and the next
one will be the fifth in eight years. Running a security agency with a
revolving door is a recipe for failure."

Janet Napolitano, the head of the Department of Homeland Security, of which
the TSA is part, made the rounds of morning television news programs on
Monday, backing away from her initial stance that the system had worked in
averting attack.

She told NBC that "our system did not work in this instance. No one is happy
or satisfied with that. An extensive review is under way."

Southers, a former FBI special agent, is the Los Angeles World Airports
Police Department assistant chief for homeland security and intelligence. He
also is the associate director of the University of Southern California's
Center for Risk and Economic Analysis of Terrorism Events, and he served as
a deputy director of homeland security for California Republican Gov. Arnold
Schwarzenegger.

Two Senate committees have given Southers their bipartisan blessing. An
acting administrator is in place pending his confirmation.

Marshall McClain, the president of the Los Angeles Airport Peace Officers
Association, said that the Senate should have acted sooner to confirm
Southers.

"Friday's terrorist attack on U.S. aviation makes it all the more imperative
that there be no further delays in filling this crucial position," he said.

DeMint said in a statement that the attempted attack "is a perfect example
of why the Obama administration should not unionize the TSA." He wants
Southers to clarify his stand on unionizing the TSA, a shift that Democrats
support.

Without collective bargaining, DeMint said, the TSA has "flexibility to make
real-time decisions that allowed it to quickly improve security measures in
response to this attempted attack."

If organized labor got involved, DeMint said, union bosses would have the
power "to veto or delay future security improvements at our airports."

He urged Obama to "re-think" supporting unionizing the TSA "and put the
interests of American travelers ahead of organized labor."

DeMint also wants a Senate floor debate and roll call votes, not
confirmation by consent as the Democrats sought.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., hadn't scheduled a floor vote for
Southers before the Senate left town on Christmas Eve.

Reid spokesman Jim Manley said Monday that the majority leader is working
with the White House to get Southers confirmed "as quickly as possible" and
charged that "Republican obstructionism has prevented TSA from having the
leadership in place that the organization deserves."

DeMint spokesman Wesley Denton said that Obama didn't nominate Southers
until September, and he charged that Reid "has been too busy trading
earmarks for votes on health care" to deal with DeMint's concerns.

DeMint's objection creates a procedural hurdle that could take three days of
debate and test votes to overcome, or could potentially be limited if
Democrats offered DeMint a compromise. No one was taking conciliatory stance
on Monday, however. Manley called DeMint's opposition "disgraceful."


hhc314

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Dec 29, 2009, 8:47:15 PM12/29/09
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On Dec 29, 1:07 pm, "Ouroboros Rex"

>
> Janet Napolitano, the head of the Department of Homeland Security, of which
> the TSA is part, made the rounds of morning television news programs on
> Monday, backing away from her initial stance that the system had worked in
> averting attack.

Sleep well America, knowing the Department of Homeland Security is
protecting you, with Nanet Napolitano in complete charge! Sure,
right!

She should resign immediately, and be replace by an experienced
military officer (hopefully a retired officer at the general rank).
Perhaps the problem goes even higher, but I don't want to go there.

Enough is enough. Politics should give way to common sense. Stll,
the buck stops at the President's desk.

Back when I was a young student in ROTC class, I learned the mission
of the United States Army. It is to "Encounter the enemy and destroy
his ability to wage war". So why, now, are we treating this war on
terrorism with velvet gloves, evidently afraid to offend anyone? That
question beats the Hell out of me! We have the dedicated troops and
the technology, so why are we hesitant to unleash it?

Harry C.

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Dec 29, 2009, 9:20:23 PM12/29/09
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We will be "unleashing" it on Yemen very soon.
Bet on it.

knews4...@yahoo.com

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> Bet on it.- Hide quoted text -

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See....
http://www.rense.com/general89/bombers.htm

Tom Potter

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I wounder if the "young ROTC student" ever read
"Sun Tzu" or for that matter ANY history books
to see what happens when nations use war
as a matter of policy.

"Ts`ao Kung: "He who wishes to fight must first count the cost."

1. Sun Tzu said: In the operations of war, where there are
in the field a thousand swift chariots, as many heavy chariots,
and a hundred thousand mail-clad soldiers
with provisions enough to carry them <300 miles>,
the expenditure at home and at the front, including entertainment
of guests, small items such as glue and paint, and sums spent on
chariots and armor, will reach the total of a thousand ounces of
silver per day. Such is the cost of raising an army of 100,000 men.

2. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long
in coming, then men's weapons will grow dull and their ardor will
be damped. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your
strength.

3. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of
the State will not be equal to the strain.

4. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor damped,
your strength exhausted and your treasure spent, other chieftains
will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man,
however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue."

It is interesting to see that four great Empires were
brought down by needless invasions of Iraq/Iran.

I. The Delphi Oracle told Croseus that if he invaded Persia, that a great
nation would be destroyed, and one was, Croseus' nation.

II. Alexander the Great succeeded in conquering Persia, but with the result
that Macedonia, who would have been the leaders in Europe, depleted its'
leadership and power, and Rome was able to step in
and easily assume the leadership of Europe.

III. And after several hundred years, a Roman Emperor made the same mistake
that Croseus and Alexander made by mounting a massive attack against Persia.

The fall of the Roman Empire can be traced to ONE irrational action, Emperor
Julian's preemptive invasion of Persia. Rome was at the height of
its' power before the invasion, ( Julian had subdued Rome's enemies in
Europe and stabilized the existing empire.), and soon after Julian's ill
fated invasion of Persia, the Roman Empire collapsed as Rome lost the trust
and respect of numerous peoples who previously had accepted Rome as the
world's leader.

Here is an excerpt from:
http://www.ancientcoins.ca/taeppa/julian/julian.htm

"In 362, <Emperor Julian> began a journey through Asia Minor to Antioch, the
jumping-off point for his Persian campaign, stopping along the way to visit
the various communities in the region. At these stops he often gave money,
men, and materials, thus showing concrete examples of his benefaction. That
winter, drought and a major earthquake struck the region. The Senate at
Antioch became very angry and refused to support Julian when he did not
divert resources gathered for his upcoming campaign against the Persians for
relief to the disaster victims.

The exact goals Julian had for his ill-fated Persian campaign were never
clear. The Sassanid Persians, and before them the Parthians, had been a
traditional enemy from the time of the Late Republic, and indeed Constantius
had been conducting a war against them before Julian's accession forced the
former to forge an uneasy peace. Julian, however, had no concrete reason to
reopen hostilities in the east. Socrates Scholasticus attributed Julian's
motives to imitation of Alexander the Great.."

IV. George Bush made the same mistake that was made by
Croseus, Alexander and Julian, and that is, he ordered a massive invasion of
Persia (Iraq) that offered much to lose, and little (If any) to gain.

Before Bush's invasion of Iraq, America was the acknowledged leader of the
world, and almost all nations of the world respected, trusted and emulated
America. By his unilateral, preemptive attack of Iraq, Bush squandered the
trust and respect that the world had for America, and as Julian and Croseus
and Alexander did, he set into motion, forces that are destroying his
nation.

Other nations are rearming and forming new trade and military alliances that
exclude America, and America is no longer respected and trusted by most
nations and most peoples. And of course, there has been dollar flight,
loss of overseas markets, enormous budget deficits,
not to mention the deaths and maiming of tens of thousands of Americans,
and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis.

It is interesting to see that the "Insurgents" in Iraq used the same
tactic that was used by the Persians to defeat Julian, and that is they did
not allow Bush to "live off the land". Whereas the Persians poisoned
wells, destroyed fodder and food stocks, etc., the Iraqi "Insurgents"
denied Bush profits from their oil wells, and made it costly for
Bush to maintain troops in the country.

And face the facts.
911 was instigated by Bush and the NeoCons
so they would have an excuse to wage war on Iraq.

As soon as he got in office, Bush became buddy/buddy with Sharon,
trivialized and boycotted the United Nations South African Racism
Conference,
began to smear Arafat and the Palestinians
who were no threat to America or Israel, as Palestine was
a massive prison, and the Israeli Army had Arafat's office
surrounded with tanks.

It doesn't take a System Engineer to comprehend
that Bush inherited an America that was the
undisputed leader of the world,
and he put America into free fall
with a stupid, War Crimes, needless
invasion of a nation that was no threat to America.

It is interesting to se that Emperor Julian
also seems to have been motivated to
invade Persia by Jewish NeoCons,
just as Bush was.

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Tom Potter
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Dec 30, 2009, 9:55:19 AM12/30/09
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On Dec 28, 6:49 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Dec 27, 11:59 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >http://www.legitgov.org/northwest_bomb_plot_oddities.html
>
> Nothing suspicious here....
>
> http://www.newworldorderreport.com/Articles/tabid/266/ID/744/Confirme...

>
> Now just step into the X-Ray machine like a good little sheep before
> boarding or we will arrest you.

Since the only thing the Detroit idiots even know about metal of
ANY kind
is X-rays, that's why the non-idiot people long ago switched to
Post Stooge GE AI,
XML, Holographics, Post Watt Turbines, Digital Books, mp3, mpeg,
Laser Disks, HDTV,
Home Broadband, Desktop Publishing, Compact Flourescence, On-Lin
Publishing,
Self-Replicating Machines, Atomic Clock Wristwatches, UAVs, GPS,
Weather Satellites,
Data Fusion, Digital-Terrain Mapping, Cyber Batteries, Fiber
Optics, Self-Assembling Robots,
Pv Cell Energy, Solar Energy, Drones, UAVs, neo Wind Energy, Cell
Phones,
MicroComputers, Optical Computers, Thermo-Electric Cooling,
Microwave Cooling,
and Post idiot 19th Century nomics either way.

Dan

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Now compare the actions and media of this event with that of the shoe
bomber...

The adults are in charge now, but the media has not made the connection.

Dan

Dan

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Dec 30, 2009, 12:26:18 PM12/30/09
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hhc314 wrote:

> Back when I was a young student in ROTC class, I learned the mission
> of the United States Army. It is to "Encounter the enemy and destroy
> his ability to wage war".

Yep. That is why they are given no real decision-making capability...

> So why, now, are we treating this war on
> terrorism with velvet gloves, evidently afraid to offend anyone?

Because wars are about political objectives. That, also, is why the
military are given no real decision-making capability...

> That
> question beats the Hell out of me!

Obviously. Equally obvious is that you never progressed past your ROTC
training to become a real citizen.

> We have the dedicated troops and
> the technology, so why are we hesitant to unleash it?

"Unleash it" on whom. Please be specific.

Dan

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On Dec 28 2009, 4:02 pm, "AllYou!" <ida...@conversent.net> wrote:
> In your opinion, has there ever been any badthingever to occur in

> the US that the jews or the government did not initiate?
>
The proof is everywhere.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/underwear_bomber__206.html

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> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> mused:


>
> > On Dec 27, 11:59 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>http://www.legitgov.org/northwest_bomb_plot_oddities.html
>
> > Nothing suspicious here....
>

> >http://www.newworldorderreport.com/Articles/tabid/266/ID/744/Confirme...
>


AllYou!

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knews4...@yahoo.com

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On Dec 28 2009, 3:49 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Dec 27, 11:59 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >http://www.legitgov.org/northwest_bomb_plot_oddities.html
>
> Nothing suspicious here....
>
> http://www.newworldorderreport.com/Articles/tabid/266/ID/744/Confirme...

>
> Now just step into the X-Ray machine like a good little sheep before
> boarding or we will arrest you.

And it just gets more weird.
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/01/10/the-weird-factor/

knews4...@yahoo.com

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