superlatives of Volcano-Electricity #47 Volcano-Electricity: Earth's Energy Future
Archimedes Plutonium
obvious facts about Geothermal. Everyone
knows geothermal exists, but no-one has realized until
now that it is the key to the future.
We do have an energy that is able to replace all the oil
and coal industry in the form of radioactive fission energy of nuclear
energy. Trouble with it is that it is not
renewable and poses a health risk of radioactive waste
materials.
But there is one source of energy that is clean, unlimited and
renewable and more reliable than even the Sun. It is geothermal and we
have only begun to
tap into it.
To seriously tap into it, we would tap into volcanoes since the heat
of the Earth's center is nearby these
volcanoes and we do not have to drill far down.
So I am probably the first person to recognize that the
future of humanity for its energy will be based on
a global geothermal tapping into volcanoes and geothermals.
From the mapp, it looks like only the Australian continent is lacking
in readily available geothermals.
But that most of the rest of the world has plenty of
volcano activity.
So let me make some statements that have really never been stated
before and which is the direction of
Humanities energy of the future:
(1) The most reliable and renewable and clean form of
energy that is abundant and can totally replace all the oil and coal
industries is geothermal/Volcanoes.
(2) Earth has really two large energy sources that are
renewable and clean -- Sun and Earth's geothermal.
Trouble with the Sun's energy is that it is needed more
for plants rather than for solar collection and the Sun is
not as reliable as a geothermal tapping into the Earth's
interior heat.
(3) Hydroelectric is clean and renewable, but the trouble with it is
that it is not large enough to power all
of human civilization and making coal and oil obsolete.
Only geothermal/Volcano is large enough to render
the coal and oil industry as obsolete.
Another item that is overlooked in all of this debate about future
energy is the awareness that volcanoes are dangerous and without
humanity tapping into them,
makes them more dangerous than if humanity taps into
them and tames them. So that if we do not harness a
Yellowstone, we may be faced with a future burial of much of the USA
with a Yellowstone eruption.
So why has Volcano-Electricity never made it into the
public conscious, into the news journalism? Perhaps because no-one is
really thinking far ahead or thinking clearly. Another reason is that
the coal and oil companies would tend to suppress information such as
Volcano-electricity because if a country like the USA ever gets into
high-gear over harnessing volcanoes such as those in California or
Yellowstone, then the end of an era of coal and oil based society is
in plain view to everyone.
Archimedes Plutonium
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Surfer
<plutonium....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>....there is one source of energy that is clean, unlimited and
>renewable and more reliable than even the Sun. It is geothermal and we
>have only begun to tap into it.
>
Australian Geothermal Energy Association Inc
http://www.agea.org.au/
"......2009 Australian Geothermal Energy Conference was held in
Brisbane at the Hilton Hotel from 10 - 13 November 2009.
There were 431 registrations....."
".....Geothermal energy was a big winner from the Renewable Energy
Demonstration Program, with two projects worth approximately $535
million receiving Australian Government funding of more than $150
million....."
http://www.agea.org.au/membership/members/
Surfer
<plutonium....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>....there is one source of energy that is clean, unlimited and
>renewable and more reliable than even the Sun. It is geothermal and we
>have only begun to tap into it.
>
Geothermal Technologies Program (USA)
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/geothermal/
".....DOE Awards $338 Million to Accelerate Domestic Geothermal
Energy..."
Archimedes Plutonium
Interesting, I did not know Australia had any geothermals to tap into,
except for
its neighbor of New Zealand. Perhaps Tasmania has some geothermals.
Archimedes Plutonium
I think the DOE should reorganize their vision and spending on
geothermals and to
include volcanoes.
I think the above is far too paltry of a money investment in research
and it is not
spearheaded by one individual scientist, which it should be. So that
the science
can make vast progress.
Geothermals and Volcano-Electricity is the only renewable with the
potential to make
the entire coal and oil industry obsolete.
If the Mount St. Helens before 1980 had several electric power
stations in operation, or
Pinatubo in Philippines had several power stations in operation before
1990, it is likely
that the eruptions would not have occurred. And think of all that
electricity that could have
been harnessed and still be harnessed.
So in the future of Earth, if we could come back say in year 2309, I
bet every volcano and
geothermal on Earth will have numerous electric-power-stations driving
all the energy needs
of the entire planet of its human civilization. And the only reason to
dig up coal or oil is to make some plastic or chemical products for
use other than transportation. The air in 2309 will
be crystal clear and have more oxygen content than any previous period
of human history.
So why is the DOE not mustering a scientific conference to push
forward at full speed--
geothermal and volcano electricity for it is the only real big energy
to tapp into and renewable.
Once a country taps into a volcano, then all the other countries will
be "full speed ahead".
China and India have abundant volcanoes to tapp into. So does Europe
with those Italian
volcanoes.
Solar and wind and hydroelectric are all good sources, but none of
them can make coal and
oil obsolete. Only Geothermal/Volcano can make coal and oil obsolete.
How much energy was spewn into the air with Mt. St. Helens or
Pinatubo? Probably enough
energy that could have supplied the world with electricity for
decades.
Probably Yellowstone alone can furnish all the electricity needs of
the USA lower 48.
How about spending 10 billion dollars on building a Yellowstone
electric station and with the
electricity furnish every American home with cheap electricity bills.
And we still can save
Yellowstone as a National Park, even make it bigger and more
protected. So that Yellowstone
gives back to the American people in electricity and a clean air that
few Americans have
ever breathed. That would be a "first" for a National Park, in that
the Yellowstone National Park saves the American people, whereas up to
now, the American people have saved
Yellowstone National Park.
So why be so chincy and cheap with geothermals? It is clear that
geothermals are the only
renewable that can make coal and oil obsolete. So let us be brave and
smart and set up a
national priority of geothermal/Volcano-electricity.
Archimedes Plutonium
Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
(snipped)
In the above, obviously I have not computed or in any way made some
reasonable
calculation as to whether we can tame a volcano like Pinatubo from
ever erupting
by having electric power stations drawing off heat to make electricity
and thus
preventing the Volcano from exploding. It seems to me that such a
scheme is
possible and thus taming a volcano.
Now I am always looking for why Earth has so much salt water and what
use can
all that salt have for us.
I wonder if we pump saltwater into a volcano such as Pinatubo or
Mt.St.Helens before
it had erupted whether the steam and the salt would have separated out
in the process
and whether the salt would have thus remained behind in the depths of
the volcano.
So that the salt would have aided in cooling the volcano and
increasing the world's
fresh water supply as a added bonus?
Last Post
• I have just one question —— How do you propose to
control this?? A geothermal project in California was
scrapped because it became dangerously close to a
fault. Vulcanism scientists have been watching Mt St
Helens and two connected volcanos. If if she goes will
the others go too? If you drill into anyone of the three
will it cause a triple eruption?
No sonny boy, your idea sounds good but does not
pass the smell test.
— —
| In real science the burden of proof is always
| on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
| neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
| iota of valid data for global warming nor have
| they provided data that climate change is being
| effected by commerce and industry, and not by
| natural phenomena
Archimedes Plutonium
When no electric power stations were used on Pinatubo and none on
Mount St. Helens
then they were sure to erupt when they erupted.
On the other hand, if thousands of portable Volcano Electric Stations
had been used
on both Pinatubo and on Mount St. Helens, both would have likely not
erupted.
Humanity is moving in the direction to where humanity completely
controls volcanoes
so that they never erupt and their energy of heat is daily siphoned
off by the installation
of thousands of portable Electric Generator Power Stations.
Hawaii is one of the easiest volcanoes to tap into. Yellowstone is
easy.
Pinatubo is more difficult. Mount Kilimanjaro is more difficult.
The future course of humanity and its energy needs is the course where
we
eventually obtain nearly 100% of our energy needs from geothermal/
Volcano-Electricity
Archimedes Plutonium
I was curious to see what the world energy consumption of electricity
was for 2008
and to compare that raw data with the energy of heat released by one
major eruption
of Hawaii magma.
--- quoting Wikipedia on 2008 global electricity use ---
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_resources_and_consumption
In 2008, total worldwide energy consumption was 474 exajoules
(5×10^20 J) with 80 to 90 percent derived from the combustion of
fossil fuels.[1] This is equivalent to an average power consumption
rate of 15 terawatts (1.504×10^13 W). Not all of the world's economies
track their energy consumption with the same rigor, and the exact
energy content of a barrel of oil or a ton of coal will vary with
quality.
--- end quoting Wikipedia ---
--- quoting Nature on volcano eruptions ---
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v288/n5788/abs/288253a0.html
Nature 288, 253 - 255 (20 November 1980); doi:10.1038/288253a0
For part of their historic records, nine of the most active volcanoes
on Earth have each erupted magma at a nearly constant rate. These
output rates are very similar and range from 0.69 to 0.26 m3 s-1. The
volcanoes discussed here—Kilauea, Mauna Loa, Fuego, Santiaguito,
Nyamuragira, Hekla, Piton de la Fournaise, Vesuvius and Etna—represent
almost the whole spectrum of plate tectonic settings of volcanism. A
common mechanism of buoyantly rising magma-filled cracks in the upper
crust may contribute to the observed restricted range of the rates of
output.
--- end quoting Nature ---
Although Nature does not reveal what the average release in joules of
heat energy of an
average eruption, others have made a rough estimate of that amount.
Roughly the heat energy in joules of a Hawaii major lava flow is on
the order of 3 x 10^20
joules of heat.
So that human civilization needs roughly 5 x 10^20 joules of
electricity for the entire year of
2008, and one volcanoes lava magma has 3 x 10^20 joules of energy.
So that if we were to harness Hawaii, Pinatubo, Yellowstone, Etna,
Kilimanjaro and a few others, then humanity would have 100X more
electricity to use from a clean renewable
sources.
So one can easily see why I say that geothermal/Volcano is the only
renewable energy
source that can make the entire fossil fuels of oil and coal obsolete.
leona...@gmail.com
<plutonium.archime...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was curious to see what the world energy consumption of electricity
> was for 2008
> and to compare that raw data with the energy of heat released by one
> major eruption
> of Hawaii magma.
>
• I doubt that there is a volcano that you could
actually tap for energy, not even yellowstone
If you put a tap on Yellowstone it would blow
it sky high.
• California stopped an huge geothermal
project because it was too close to a major fault.
leona...@gmail.com
<plutonium.archime...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Last Post wrote:
• I have just one question —— How do you propose to
control this?? A geothermal project in California was
scrapped because it became dangerously close to a
fault. Vulcanism scientists have been watching Mt St
Helens and two connected volcanos. If if she goes will
the others go too? If you drill into anyone of the three
will it cause a triple eruption?
[much stupid nonsense snipped
• Coal, crude, and natural gas are the only clean
energy sources that are increasingly available,
and economically viable.
• What makes crude and coal affordable are their
biproducts, steel, lubricants,all plastics, some
pharmaceuticals, even rubber (tires) etc.
• Just remember that CO2 is essential for all life
on the planet