Re: 9/11 was an inside job.
*us*
bombs going off, all over in the buildings."
http://www.911sharethetruth.com/
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Iamdud <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>...I am afraid of reality.
No one had asked about you, though.
It's your satanic masters who should be brought to justice.
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:34:31 -0700 (PDT), Iamdud <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>...running away like a crying
>baby girl ...
You do that because you're afraid of reality.
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:30:17 -0700 (PDT), Iamdud <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>...you read ...
Why can't you?
Notice how the bushworshipper can't deal with a word of this.
"A passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy
for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in
cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one nation the enmities of
the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter
without justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges
denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by
unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy,
ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are
withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens who devote themselves
to the favorite nation, facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own
country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a
virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable
zeal for public good, the foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation."
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread121869/pg1
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:28:27 -0700 (PDT), Iamdud <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... nutbag physically impossible theories...
You've swallowed all those offered you by your
master Cheney.
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:16:30 -0700 (PDT), Iamdud <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... playing the useful idiot ...
You sure are.
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:37:49 -0700 (PDT), Iamdud <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>...subservient...
You're doing just what your neocon masters want you to do.
http://www.stewwebb.com/9-11WTCBushCheneyTreason.html
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:53:25 -0700 (PDT), Iamdud <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... rightard...
>... delusional rightard fuckwad.
>...being the useful idiot ...
No one had asked about you.
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:06:29 -0700 (PDT), Iamdud <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... rightard ...
No one had asked for you.
On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:22:07 -0700 (PDT), Iamdud <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... still can't comprehend ...full of shit.
Of course you have those problems.
You're too weak and fearful to consider reality.
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:43:09 -0700 (PDT), Iamdud <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>delusional kkkooker world view.
You can't comprehend that Bush and Cheney are
still profiting from 9/11.
"The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its
enemies attack it.
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
crimes of 9/11 to occur. They did all they could to make sure
the crimes would happen, and they're the primary beneficiaries.
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Iamdud <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... He's admitted it...
You're easily duped by faked video.
There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html
Bush also made sure that the pilots were disarmed, in July of 2001.
Bush and Cheney are still making money on 9/11.
They're the primary beneficiaries of the crime PNAC wanted.
Even their most subservient pawn can't deny it.
*us*
http://www.rense.com/general68/mreproof.htm
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:56:44 -0700 (PDT), Iamdud <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... I am afraid of reality.
You'd already made that obvious, but it's not about you.
It's about the victims/survivors of 9/11.
They deserve justice, no matter how much you hate them.
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:35:59 -0700 (PDT), Iamdud <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... the BushCo worshiper. FACT. ... shill for the criminal ...
You do that because you're afraid of reality.
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:39:37 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... the Buch...
The what?
*us*
can't dispute what those in the know have to say.
*us*
Notice that even the most desperate neocon pawn
can't dispute what the witnesses reported.
*us*
>... a neocon... I ...
You don't seem to understand that your war criminal
idols wouldn't hesitate to murder Americans for their
fun and profit.
See also: "Operation Northwoods".
Notice that even the most desperate neocon pawn
can't dispute what the witnesses reported.
"Witnesses To WTC Explosives"
*us*
murdered on 9/11.
*us*
> I am impotent with rage against the 9/11 victims.
Otherwise you'd not call them liars.
*us*
family history that'd make him hesitate to commit
murderous treason against the United States.
*us*
and his father was involved in Iran-Contra, among many
other things.
There is nothing whatsoever in Bush's personal or
family history that'd make him hesitate to commit
murderous treason against the United States.
http://www.hereinreality.com/familyvalues.html
*us*
*us*
>... we can have more laughs at
You're laughing at the 9/11 victims when you don't
mind at all that the real perpetrators get away with it.
*us*
>... master Cheeeeeeney ...
Cry out for your satanic idol when you have nothing else.
*us*
*us*
>... started crying...
Well, you can't dispute the contents in the "peer-reviewed
"Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal", and you're too
weak to deal with reality.
*us*
http://www.wanttoknow.info/050908insidejob911
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:59:13 -0700 (PDT), Iamdud <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... a dope and a shill for the criminal
>Bush
No one had asked about you.
*us*
>...Hate... US ...I'm too
> weak to deal with reality.
> I cry out for my satanic idol Cheeeeeney when I have nothing else.
No one had asked about you, though.
"over 50 senior military, intelligence, and government officials and over
100 respected professors who seriously question the 9/11 official story"
*us*
revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event � like a new Pearl Harbor..."
http://www.terraknowledge.net/news/terrak040503a.htm
*us*
that PNAC wanted that attack on 9/11.
*us*
than Bush and Cheney.
*us*
The most fervent neocon pawn will merely spew
fallacious invective rather than consider the facts.
*us*
> ...I'm too
> weak to deal with reality.
> I cry out for my satanic idol Cheeeeeney when I have nothing else.
>Yep.
You're not the subject.
" 1. Means - Dick Cheney and the Secret Service: Dick Cheney was running a completely
separate chain of Command & Control via the Secret Service, assuring the paralysis of Air
Force response on 9/11. The Secret Service has the technology to see the same radar
screens the FAA sees in real time. They also have the legal authority and technological
capability to take supreme command in cases of national emergency. Dick Cheney was the
acting Commander in Chief on 9/11. (Click here for a summary of these points)
2. Motive - Peak Oil: At some point between 2000 and 2007, world oil production reaches
its peak; from that point on, every barrel of oil is going to be harder to find, more
expensive to recover, and more valuable to those who recover and control it. Dick Cheney
was well aware of the coming Peak Oil crisis at least as early as 1999, and 9/11 provided
the pretext for the series of energy wars that Cheney stated, "will not end in our
lifetime." (Click here for a summary of these points)
3. Opportunity - 9/11 War Games: The Air Force was running multiple war games on the
morning of 9/11 simulating hijackings over the continental United States that included (at
least) one "live-fly" exercise as well as simulations that placed "false blips" on FAA
radar screens. These war games eerily mirrored the real events of 9/11 to the point of the
Air Force running drills involving hijacked aircraft as the 9/11 plot actually unfolded.
The war games & terror drills played a critical role in ensuring no Air Force fighter
jocks - who had trained their entire lives for this moment - would be able to prevent the
attacks from succeeding. These exercises were under Dick Cheney's management. (Click here
for a summary of these points)"
*us*
Bill Benton
> Notice how the bushworshipper can't deal with a word of this.
How about dealing with this:
http://www.911myths.com/
http://www.debunking911.com/links.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debunking_9/11_Myths
http://www.answers.com/topic/debunking-9-11-myths
http://www.debunk911myths.org/
http://www.slate.com/id/2088092/
http://www.amazon.com/Debunking-11-Myths-Conspiracy-Theories/dp/158816635X
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=fahrenheit-2777
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2006/04/19/cstillwell.DTL
http://www.2spare.com/item_43133.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory
9/11 TRUTHERS GUT PUNCHED BY HISTORY CHANNEL
In what will surely be seen as a defining moment for the 9/11 truther
movement, the History Channel has delivered a blow for sanity and
rationalism by airing a superior documentary entitled 9/11
Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction.
There's no other way to say it; the truthers got reamed.
They got reamed to the point that the truthers who produced the
internet video Loose Change are scrambling to alter the third version
of their conspiracy mongering tripe, even going so far as to drop any
reference to the twin towers being blown up by the government (they
continue to insist WTC #7 was brought down by explosives).
The documentary took no prisoners as it destroyed almost all of the
major conspiracy theories associated with 9/11 while revealing the
real motivations of the truthers; that they are part of a political
movement driven by raw, unreasoning hatred of George Bush, the
American government, and to some extent, America itself.
Prominently featured were historians like David Brinkley, Editor in
Chief of Popular Mechanics James Meigs, and structural engineers,
explosives experts, and a host of scientists, military experts, and
eyewitnesses to the disaster. The cumulative effect of the testimony
of the anti-conspiracists was absolutely devastating. The show left
little doubt of the unhinged nature of the truthers, showing many of
them - including radio host Alex Jones who has given vast amounts of
air time to every kook, crazy, and nutcase with a theory on 9/11 -
looking like the anti-intellectual fruitcakes they truly are.
The format was perfect. A truther would lay out a conspiracy theory
which was then immediately debunked by 2 or 3 experts. Over two hours,
a couple of dozen myths associated with 9/11 were laid to rest
permanently including the "missile" that hit the Pentagon, the shoot
down of Flight 93, the "implosion" of the towers," and other theories
not based on fact.
The implosion theory was debunked several times over. First, by the
best forensic structural engineer in the country who, with the help of
some excellent graphics and animation, showed exactly how the planes
caused the towers to fall. An explosives expert (a young guy who was
flabbergasted at the ignorance of the truthers regarding demolition)
pointed out it would have taken weeks to rig the buildings for
implosion and would have involved stripping drywall and ripping out
walls. The nail in the coffin was supplied by one of the engineers who
prepared the final report (working for the independent American
Society of Civil Engineers) who showed how the collapse of the towers
accounted for such things as the puffs of smoke seen in lower floors
as the collapse was occurring as well as the speed of the collapse.
By the end of their presentation, I was on my feet cheering.
The emotional highlight of the documentary occurred when they had
members of the victims families responding to the truthers. A
confrontation at Ground Zero on the anniversary of 9/11 with the
truthers screaming at family members who disagreed with them was
shocking. One family member said every time she heard one of the
conspiracy nuts it was like "a stab in the heart."
Not that these nutcases care much. As the documentary showed, the
truthers real goal is to blame Bush. And the disturbing poll numbers
showing that 46% of the country believing the whole truth about 9/11
is being hidden by the government shows why this documentary should be
viewed by everyone.
You can tell how deeply this program hurt the truther movement by the
fact that they didn't try to answer any of the points made by the
piece but rather attacked the source:
An upcoming documentary entitled The 9/11 Conspiracies, to be
aired on the History Channel, may represent the biggest hit piece to
date on the 9/11 truth movement and is rife with bias, cronyism and
conflicts of interest
The so-called documentary promises not to look at the flaws in the
official story from a neutral perspective but to start out by
suggesting that any deviation from the official line is "outrageous".
The program also features so called independent "experts" who are
actually in the employ of the program makers themselves who in turn
rely on scores of multi-million dollar contracts with the government
and the military-industrial complex.
Hit piece? It is hard to see how much more fair minded the History
Channel could have been. They allowed the truthers to spout their
conspiracy theories to their hearts content and then rationally,
reasonably, calmly poked so many holes in them they resembled a piece
of swiss cheese.
Pat Curley of the excellent truther debunking site Screw Loose Change
called the documentary "the dream debunking piece. It's Hiroshima for
the Truthers." One might throw in Nagasaki as well.
Pat concludes:
Overall: Devastating blow for most of the kooks; ironically the
CIT nuts get a little thrill as their theory at least gets a little
boost. The cumulative effect is pretty overwhelming. The voicemorphed
calls thing gets smashed in their faces. Awesome, absolutely the most
satisfying moment in a very satisfying two hours!
He is referring to the jaw dropping theory that all the communications
from passengers on the doomed planes were faked! Family members
tearfully rebutted those outrageous charges. And the young editor of
Popular Mechanics, who tried very hard not to laugh when he was
debunking some of the more unbelievable theories, actually said he was
personally disgusted by the implication that family members were
somehow involved in the conspiracy by covering up the fact that the
phone calls were not really from their loved ones.
knews4...@yahoo.com
> "* US *" wrote in message:
> > Notice how the bushworshipper can't deal with a word of this.
>
> How about dealing with this:
>
Illuminati Disinfo sites?
By following the money and common sense.
Buildings do not collapse into themselves while turning to micron
sized dust and launch steel beams weighing tons hundreds of feet
laterally.
Crime scenes are not scrubbed asap to cover up the truth unless there
is something to hide.
All building destruction/fires are investigated for incendiaries BY
LAW but NOT IN THIS CASE.
Why?
Al Dykes
<knews4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Everything you've been told about WTC is wrong.
--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
Iarnrod
Because your tin foil hat is not tight enough, lying rightard kkkook.
AllYou!
news:30dbf0bb-51de-4831...@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com,
knews4...@yahoo.com <knews4...@yahoo.com> mused:
> On Nov 4, 11:17 am, "Bill Benton" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> "* US *" wrote in message:
>>> Notice how the bushworshipper can't deal with a word of this.
>>
>> How about dealing with this:
>>
> Yes, how does one deal wth the CIA, Mossad/Zionist, Bankster,
> Illuminati Disinfo sites?
>
> By following the money and common sense.
> Buildings do not collapse into themselves while turning to micron
> sized dust and launch steel beams weighing tons hundreds of feet
> laterally.
The buildings were either turned into mircon sized dust, or melted,
or broke apart into beams that weighed tons. Which is it?
knews4...@yahoo.com
> In article <30dbf0bb-51de-4831-a8b9-500e89d89...@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> Â <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 4, 11:17=A0am, "Bill Benton" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >> "* US *" wrote in message:
> >> > Notice how the bushworshipper can't deal with a word of this.
>
> >> How about dealing with this:
>
> >Yes, how does one deal wth the CIA, Mossad/Zionist, Bankster,
> >Illuminati Disinfo sites?
>
> >By following the money and common sense.
> >Buildings do not collapse into themselves while turning to micron
> >sized dust and launch steel beams weighing tons hundreds of feet
> >laterally.
> >Crime scenes are not scrubbed asap to cover up the truth unless there
> >is something to hide.
> >All building destruction/fires are investigated for incendiaries BY
> >LAW but NOT IN THIS CASE.
> >Why?
>
> Everything you've been told about WTC is wrong.
>
That is why we know the government is lying and the buildings were
demolished to start more wars for oil and Empire.
knews4...@yahoo.com
> Innews:30dbf0bb-51de-4831...@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com,
> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> mused:
>
> > On Nov 4, 11:17 am, "Bill Benton" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >> "* US *" wrote in message:
> >>> Notice how the bushworshipper can't deal with a word of this.
>
> >> How about dealing with this:
>
> > Yes, how does one deal wth the CIA, Mossad/Zionist, Bankster,
> > Illuminati Disinfo sites?
>
> > By following the money and common sense.
> > Buildings do not collapse into themselves while turning to micron
> > sized dust and launch steel beams weighing tons hundreds of feet
> > laterally.
>
> The buildings were either turned into mircon sized dust, or melted,
> or broke apart into beams that weighed tons. Â Which is it?
>
Some of each happened to the building contents and materials.
One does not exlude the other.
Look at the photos.
Quit working for the CIA/Mossad.
>
>
> > Crime scenes are not scrubbed asap to cover up the truth unless
> > there is something to hide.
> > All building destruction/fires are investigated for incendiaries
> > BY LAW but NOT IN THIS CASE.
> > Why?
>
Still no answer to why the law was not followed?
AllYou!
news:ad1a5bac-0a71-4d61...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com,
knews4...@yahoo.com <knews4...@yahoo.com> mused:
> On Nov 5, 4:24 am, "AllYou!" <ida...@conversent.net> wrote:
>> Innews:30dbf0bb-51de-4831...@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com,
>> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> mused:
>>
>>> On Nov 4, 11:17 am, "Bill Benton" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>> "* US *" wrote in message:
>>>>> Notice how the bushworshipper can't deal with a word of this.
>>
>>>> How about dealing with this:
>>
>>> Yes, how does one deal wth the CIA, Mossad/Zionist, Bankster,
>>> Illuminati Disinfo sites?
>>
>>> By following the money and common sense.
>>> Buildings do not collapse into themselves while turning to
>>> micron sized dust and launch steel beams weighing tons
>>> hundreds of feet laterally.
>>
>> The buildings were either turned into mircon sized dust, or
>> melted, or broke apart into beams that weighed tons. Which is
>> it?
>>
> All the above.
> Some of each happened to the building contents and materials.
> One does not exlude the other.
> Look at the photos.
Except for the wild-ass claim that there was general melting of the
steel, I'm not aware that anyone disagrees with the rest of it. So
what's your point?
>>> Crime scenes are not scrubbed asap to cover up the truth unless
>>> there is something to hide.
>>> All building destruction/fires are investigated for
>>> incendiaries BY LAW but NOT IN THIS CASE.
>>> Why?
>>
>
> Still no answer to why the law was not followed?
Nothing was scrubbed clean any sooner than would be consistent with
normal investigations. You do know, right, that the first priority
was to see if there were any survivors in the rubble?
knews4...@yahoo.com
> Innews:ad1a5bac-0a71-4d61...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com,
>
Yea, until they got the gold out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaCYEEO-58I
Your USAma "conspiracy theory" has more holes in it than Swiss Chees.
Quit your job at the Mossadd/CIA before the hordes with pitchforks
come and get your lying ass.
Al Dykes
<knews4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Nov 4, 8:39=A0pm, ady...@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>> In article <30dbf0bb-51de-4831-a8b9-500e89d89...@12g2000pri.googlegroups.=
>com>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> =A0<knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 4, 11:17=3DA0am, "Bill Benton" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> >> "* US *" wrote in message:
>> >> > Notice how the bushworshipper can't deal with a word of this.
>>
>> >> How about dealing with this:
>>
>> >Yes, how does one deal wth the CIA, Mossad/Zionist, Bankster,
>> >Illuminati Disinfo sites?
>>
>> >By following the money and common sense.
>> >Buildings do not collapse into themselves while turning to micron
>> >sized dust and launch steel beams weighing tons hundreds of feet
>> >laterally.
>> >Crime scenes are not scrubbed asap to cover up the truth unless there
>> >is something to hide.
>> >All building destruction/fires are investigated for incendiaries BY
>> >LAW but NOT IN THIS CASE.
>> >Why?
>>
>> Everything you've been told about WTC is wrong.
>>
>Right.
>That is why we know the government is lying and the buildings were
>demolished to start more wars for oil and Empire.
Everything you've been told about WTC is wrong.
Strabo
Take a thousand pound steel safe with 3 inch thick walls designed
to withstand sustained fire and explosives. Drop it to the ground
from 1000 feet. It will be intact.
There were such safes in the WTC. Did any survive? What could cause
such a safe to disintegrate?
Dan
INCLUDING all the conspiracy/inside-job statements?!?
Damn...
Dan
knews4...@yahoo.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yes.
Including the lie that there were no explosions prior to the
collapses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A9X_8flGeM
And no "molten steel."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcqf5tL887o&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SLIzSCt_cg&feature=related
Like he says, "Watch the video."
knews4...@yahoo.com
> AllYou! wrote:
> > In
> >news:ad1a5bac-0a71-4d61...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com,
>
> - Show quoted text -
And thanks to the internet "Dead men do tell their story."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQY-ksiuwKU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LivSW9zLg&feature=related
AllYou!
news:f6b8bde7-0c16-4200...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com,
knews4...@yahoo.com <knews4...@yahoo.com> mused:
Yeah, that's it exactly.
AllYou!
Strabo <str...@flashlight.net> mused:
Prove it.
> Did any survive? What could
> cause such a safe to disintegrate?
Prove that any did.
*us*
and line of reasoning"
*us*
>It is hard to believe, given the level of info in the intelligence
>community, that someone did not know 911 was coming and chose to turn a
>blind eye. Swiss financial analysis of the trading in the days before
>9/11/01 also reveal enuf statistical analysis to prove beyond a
>reasonable doubt in any court proceeding that others knew as well.
Exactly. It became obvious that they knew in advance.
Bush and Cheney also lied about 9/11.
>This is not to say that many in the Bush administration were too stupid
>or too far out of the loop to have a clue, including Bush & Cheney. But
>since the Huey P. Long school of government rules apply-
>1- Never say anything in writing, much less email.
>2- Never say over the phone what can be said in person.
>3- never speak when you can nod.
>4. never nod when you can smile.
>
>And undoubtedly, there were those who knew what was coming that also
>knew high Bush administration officials would smile. There was no need
>for them to know.
Yet they did know. They had their lies all ready.
>But more to the point after all this, and hundreds of other threads as
>well, that nothing will be done by the powers that be unless there is a
>need for scapegoats to distract the public mind from other crises. What
>we here come to know will not have any effect, so the passion and
>zealotry in these threads is only an expression of ego.
History will not approve of those who let it slide.
*us*
><ROTFL>
To you, the deaths on 9/11 are funny.
To others, they're not.
>freaks still around ...
Nobody had asked for you.
Meanwhile:
knews4...@yahoo.com
> Innews:f6b8bde7-0c16-4200...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com,
> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com <knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> mused:
Glad you agree.
And I'll replace your loser snippage.
AllYou!
news:70924d61-8c08-40b6...@v15g2000prn.googlegroups.com,
knews4...@yahoo.com <knews4...@yahoo.com> mused:
Why didn't all gthe gold melt to flow like lava?
Strabo
Because it was in a vault below ground.
AllYou!
Strabo <str...@flashlight.net> mused:
You mean below ground where, apparently some people claim that other
people claim that molten stell was flowiing lie lava for days and
weeks?
*us*
understand the scientific bases:
*us*
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC_STF.htm
*us*
- Frank A. Demartini (Manager, WTC Construction)."
*us*
""The building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners"
- Frank A. Demartini (Manager, WTC Construction)."
"undeniable facts, events, and quotes"
*us*
>On Nov 7, 4:52�pm, Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 7, 5:29�pm, * US * wrote:
>> > "undeniable facts, events, and quotes"
>>
>> So why do you deny the facts, rightard Bush-serving shill? Why do you
>> continue to promote physically impossible fantasies that help Bush?
>
>How is it someone exposing the 9-11 lies is supporting Bush?
>
>Because you are a lost and twisted agent of lies and distraction.
>You are the one denying facts.
>You are blind to the truth or do not want it known.
>No one could possibly twist what other people say unless you are lost
>or are doing it on purpose.
Exactly.
""The building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners"
- Frank A. Demartini (Manager, WTC Construction)."
"undeniable facts, events, and quotes"
*us*
is whine about the messenger.
He certainly can't dispute the message.
""The building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners"
- Frank A. Demartini (Manager, WTC Construction)."
"undeniable facts, events, and quotes"
mr.smartypants
thanks for these efforts to wake up the sheeple.
--
money; what a concept!
*us*
the explosives did in reality.
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:30:13 -0800 (PST), knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
>On Nov 7, 4:52�pm, Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 7, 5:29�pm, * US * wrote:
>> > "undeniable facts, events, and quotes"
>>
>> So why do you deny the facts, rightard Bush-serving shill? Why do you
>> continue to promote physically impossible fantasies that help Bush?
>
>How is it someone exposing the 9-11 lies is supporting Bush?
>
>Because you are a lost and twisted agent of lies and distraction.
>You are the one denying facts.
>You are blind to the truth or do not want it known.
>No one could possibly twist what other people say unless you are lost
>or are doing it on purpose.
Exactly.
""The building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners"
*us*
towers' steel cores, among many other things.
*us*
such things as the core structures of the towers.
*us*
You're welcome.
*us*
>... being a clueless moron.
Of course you are.
The bushworshipper can't address this fact, either:
""The building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners"
Bill Benton
> - Frank A. Demartini (Manager, WTC Construction)."
"Demartini, who had an office on the 88th floor of the North Tower, has been
missing since the 9/11/01 attack, having remained in the North Tower to
assist in the evacuation."
He was wrong, and it cost him his life.
knews4...@yahoo.com
No, he knew the buildings would be fine. He knew they would not fail
from the jet hits.
The fires were minimal as the fire department recordings prove.
What he didn't know was that Bush and his cabal had set up the
buildings to be destroyed and to be "the new Pearl Harbor" with his
cousin Marvin at the head of Securicom allowing the building to be
laced with demolition incendiaries.
*us*
>On Nov 9, 10:22�am, Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 9, 10:00�am, * US * wrote:
>> > The bushfilth believes that the planes did what
>> > the explosives did in reality.
>>
>> BWAHAHAHHAAA!! "Explosives" that are silent and invisible!! STOP!
>> You're making me laugh too hard!!
>>
>> Tell us, moron, just how do you plan to address the proven fact that
>> your claims are physically impossible? Hmmmm?
>
>Where's the "boom?"
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn-MCCZ3O1M
Good point.
*us*
witnesses there at the time heard, and felt, explosions.
*us*
columns and girders, measuring 87 feet by 133 feet"
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html
*us*
>On Nov 9, 10:23�am, Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 9, 10:00�am, * US * wrote:
>> > The bushfilth has to ignore the nature of the
>> > towers' steel cores, among many other things.
>> > The bushworshipper can't address this fact, either:
>> > ""The building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners"
>> > - Frank A. Demartini (Manager, WTC Construction)."
>>
>> And the fact that this statement has been proven wrong doesn't faze
>> you in the least, Bushshill?
>>
>And he is a Bushshill how?
>Is he lelping The Carlyle group make money for Bush and Bin Laden by
>exposing the lies that they used to start the Wars?
>Is he exposing the lies so they can control the oil, pipelines, and
>prices?
>Go to hell Spook.
Exactly. He claims something had been "proven wrong",
but he has absolutely no proof.
>
>> The buildings obviously did not survive impacts of jetliners, dope.
>> They fell down.
>>
>> Geez, talk about denying what your own eyes can see!!
>
>Buildings don't "fall down."
>There is no such thing as unexplained "global collapse."
>You are a lying Spook.
Indeed.
Magnetic
In a dozen of days CERN’s LHC will kill all of you and all of your
relatives.
Take action, to save your souls!
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Al Dykes
<knews4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Nov 9, 2:26=A0pm, "Bill Benton" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> "* US *" wrote in message:
>> > ""The building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners"
>> > - Frank A. Demartini (Manager, WTC Construction)."
>>
>een
>> missing since the 9/11/01 attack, having remained in the North Tower to
>> assist in the evacuation."
>>
>> He was wrong, and it cost him his life.
>
>No, he knew the buildings would be fine. He knew they would not fail
>from the jet hits.
>The fires were minimal as the fire department recordings prove.
You are mis-quoting people at the fire department.
Henry Guthard, engineer and one of [WTC designer] Yamasaki's
original partners who also worked as the project manager at the
[WTC] site, said, "To hit the building, to disappear, to have pieces
come out the other side, it was amazing the building stood. To
defend against 5,000 (sic) gallons of ignited fuel in a building of
1350 feet is just not possible.
http://snurl.com/j54gc (Report From Ground Zero page 188)
--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
*us*
towers, encased in concrete, just disintegrated downward. This is impossible enough, but
they not only went down, THEY DISINTEGRATED AT THE SAME RATE OF SPEED (over 100 mph!!) as
the open floors (the pancakes), and also as fast as the outer shell (an intense and sturdy
mesh of solid steel grids in its own right)"
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911-beginners.php
*us*
The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 707-320B is 336,000 pounds.
The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 767-200ER is 395,000 pounds.
The wingspan of a Boeing 707 is 146 feet.
The wingspan of a Boeing 767 is 156 feet.
The length of a Boeing 707 is 153 feet.
The length of a Boeing 767 is 159 feet.
The Boeing 707 could carry 23,000 gallons of fuel.
The Boeing 767 could carry 23,980 gallons of fuel.
The cruise speed of a Boeing 707 is 607 mph = 890 ft/s,
The cruise speed of a Boeing 767 is 530 mph = 777 ft/s.
So, the Boeing 707 and 767 are very similar aircraft, with the main differences being that
the 767 is slightly heavier and the 707 is faster.
In designing the towers to withstand the impact of a Boeing 707, the designers would have
assumed that the aircraft was operated normally. So they would have assumed that the
aircraft was traveling at its cruise speed and not at the break neck speed of some
kamikaze. With this in mind, we can calculate the energy that the plane would impart to
the towers in any accidental collision.
The kinetic energy released by the impact of a Boeing 707 at cruise speed is
= 0.5 x 336,000 x (890)^2/32.174
= 4.136 billion ft lbs force (5,607,720 Kilojoules).
The kinetic energy released by the impact of a Boeing 767 at cruise speed is
= 0.5 x 395,000 x (777)^2/32.174
= 3.706 billion ft lbs force (5,024,650 Kilojoules).
From this, we see that under normal flying conditions, a Boeing 707 would smash into the
WTC with about 10 percent more energy than would the slightly heavier Boeing 767. That is,
under normal flying conditions, a Boeing 707 would do more damage than a Boeing 767.
In conclusion we can say that if the towers were designed to survive the impact of a
Boeing 707, then they were necessarily designed to survive the impact of a Boeing 767."
http://911review.org/Wget/www.nerdcities.com/guardian/wtc/wtc-demolition.htm
*us*
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:31:06 -0800 (PST), knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
*us*
I submit to you that you are 100% incorrect and urge you to look at the evidence and
scientific facts. Seven of 8 airline black-boxes were destroyed that day, yet we are
supposed to believe the passport of Satam Al Suqami flew out of his pocket, through the
fire, and landed intact in the streets below?"
http://911lies.org/WTC_collapse_demolition_explosions.html
He's the mindless pawn of the PNAC terrorists.
*us*
"Rich Banaciski -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 22]
... and then I just remember there was just an explosion. It seemed like on television
they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt,
all these explosions.
Brian Becker -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 28]
The collapse hadn't begun, but it was not a fire any more up there. It was like -- it was
like that -- like smoke explosion on a tremendous scale going on up there.
Greg Brady -- E.M.T. (E.M.S.) [Battalion 6]
We were standing underneath and Captain Stone was speaking again. We heard -- I heard 3
loud explosions. I look up and the north tower is coming down now, 1 World Trade Center.
Timothy Burke -- Firefigter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 202]
But it seemed like I was going oh, my god, there is a secondary device because the way the
building popped. I thought it was an explosion.
Ed Cachia -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 53]
we originally had thought there was like an internal detonation explosives because it went
in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down.
Frank Campagna -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 11]
You see three explosions and then the whole thing coming down.
Craig Carlsen -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 8]
... you just heard explosions coming from building two, the south tower. It seemed like it
took forever, but there were about ten explosions.
Jason Charles -- E.M.T. (E.M.S.)
... and then I heard an explosion from up, from up above, and I froze and I was like, oh,
s___, I'm dead because I thought the debris was going to hit me in the head and that was
it.
...
I look over my shoulder and I says, oh, s___, and then I turned around and looked up and
that's when I saw the tower coming down.
Frank Cruthers -- Chief (F.D.N.Y.) [Citywide Tour Commander]
.. there was what appeared to be at first an explosion. It appeared at the very top,
simultaneously from all four sides, materials shot out horizontally. And then there seemed
to be a momentary delay before you could see the beginning of the collapse.
Kevin Darnowski -- Paramedic (E.M.S.)
I heard three explosions, and then we heard like groaning and grinding, and tower two
started to come down.
Dominick Derubbio -- Battalion Chief (F.D.N.Y.) [Division 8]
It was weird how it started to come down. It looked like it was a timed explosion ...
Karin Deshore -- Captain (E.M.S.)
Somewhere around the middle of the World Trade Center, there was this orange and red flash
coming out. Initially it was just one flash. Then this flash just kept popping all the way
around the building and that building had started to explode.
Brian Dixon -- Battalion Chief (F.D.N.Y.)
... the lowest floor of fire in the south tower actually looked like someone had planted
explosives around it because the whole bottom I could see -- I could see two sides of it
and the other side -- it just looked like that floor blew out. I looked up and you could
actually see everything blew out on the one floor. I thought, geez, this looks like an
explosion up there, it blew out.
Michael Donovan -- Captain (F.D.N.Y.)
I thought there had been an explosion or a bomb that they had blown up there.
James Drury -- Assistant Commissioner (F.D.N.Y.)
I should say that people in the street and myself included thought that the roar was so
loud that the explosive - bombs were going off inside the building.
Thomas Fitzpatrick -- Deputy Commissioner for Administration (F.D.N.Y.)
Some people thought it was an explosion. I don't think I remember that. I remember seeing
it, it looked like sparkling around one specific layer of the building.
...
My initial reaction was that this was exactly the way it looks when they show you those
implosions on TV.
Gary Gates -- Lieutenant (F.D.N.Y.)
So the explosion, what I realized later, had to be the start of the collapse. It was the
way the building appeared to blowout from both sides. I'm looking at the face of it, and
all we see is the two sides of the building just blowing out and coming apart like this,
as I said, like the top of a volcano.
Kevin Gorman -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 22]
... I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down,
before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes.
Gregg Hansson -- Lieutenant (F.D.N.Y.)
Then a large explosion took place. In my estimation that was the tower coming down, but at
that time I did not know what that was. I thought some type of bomb had gone off.
Timothy Julian -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 118]
You know, and I just heard like an explosion and then cracking type of noise, and then it
sounded like a freight train, rumbling and picking up speed, and I remember I looked up,
and I saw it coming down.
John Malley -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 22]
I felt the rumbling, and then I felt the force coming at me. I was like, what the hell is
that? In my mind it was a bomb going off.
James McKinley -- E.M.T. (E.M.S.)
After that I heard this huge explosion, I thought it was a boiler exploding or something.
Next thing you know this huge cloud of smoke is coming at us, so we're running.
Joseph Meola -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 91]
As we are looking up at the building, what I saw was, it looked like the building was
blowing out on all four sides. We actually heard the pops. Didn't realize it was the
falling -- you know, you heard the pops of the building. You thought it was just blowing
out.
Kevin Murray -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 18]
When the tower started -- there was a big explosion that I heard and someone screamed that
it was coming down and I looked away and I saw all the windows domino
Janice Olszewski -- Captain (E.M.S.)
I thought it was an explosion or a secondary device, a bomb, the jet -- plane exploding,
whatever.
Daniel Rivera -- Paramedic (E.M.S.) [Battalion 31]
At first I thought it was -- do you ever see professional demolition where they set the
charges on certain floors and then you hear "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop"? That's exactly what
-- because I thought it was that.
Angel Rivera -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)
That's when hell came down. It was like a huge, enormous explosion. I still can hear it.
Everything shook.
Kennith Rogers -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)
I figured it was a bomb, because it looked like a synchronized deliberate kind of thing. I
was there in '93.
Patrick Scaringello -- Lieutenant (E.M.S.)
I started to treat patients on my own when I heard the explosion from up above.
Mark Steffens -- Division Chief (E.M.S.)
Then there was another it sounded like an explosion and heavy white powder ...
John Sudnik -- Battalion Chief (F.D.N.Y.)
Then we heard a loud explosion or what sounded like a loud explosion and looked up and I
saw tower two start coming down. Crazy.
Jay Swithers -- Captain (E.M.S.)
I took a quick glance at the building and while I didn't see it falling, I saw a large
section of it blasting out, which led me to believe it was just an explosion. I thought it
was a secondary device, but I knew that we had to go.
David Timothy -- E.M.T. (E.M.S.)
The next thing I knew, you started hearing more explosions. I guess this is when the
second tower started coming down.
Albert Turi -- Deputy Assistant Chief (F.D.N.Y.)
And as my eyes traveled up the building, and I was looking at the south tower, somewhere
about halfway up, my initial reaction was there was a secondary explosion, and the entire
floor area, a ring right around the building blew out.
Thomas Turilli -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)
... it almost actually that day sounded like bombs going off, like boom, boom, boom, like
seven or eight, and then just a huge wind gust just came.
Stephen Viola -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)
... that's when the south tower collapsed, and it sounded like a bunch of explosions.
William Wall -- Lieutenant (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 47]
At that time, we heard an explosion. We looked up and the building was coming down right
on top of us ... "
*us*
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911-beginners.php
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:31:06 -0800 (PST), knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
>On Nov 9, 10:22�am, Iamdude <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 9, 10:00�am, * US * wrote:
>> > The bushfilth believes that the planes did what
>> > the explosives did in reality.
>>
*us*
the reality that his idols are traitors.
*us*
>On Nov 10, 7:00�am, ady...@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>> In article <f7dee41c-73fa-4492-a099-38d5555a9...@d9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
>> �<knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 9, 10:22=A0am, Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Nov 9, 10:00=A0am, * US * wrote:
>> >> > The bushfilth believes that the planes did what
>> >> > the explosives did in reality.
>> >> BWAHAHAHHAAA!! "Explosives" that are silent and invisible!! STOP!
>> >> You're making me laugh too hard!!
>> >> Tell us, moron, just how do you plan to address the proven fact that
>> >> your claims are physically impossible? Hmmmm?
>> >Where's the �"boom?"
>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWn-MCCZ3O1M
>> Nobody heard "boom" consistent with man-made demolition.
>> Al Dykes
>
>Liar.
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcg8hMEmTVE
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMUbbLYycVo&feature=related
>And "What do thousands of explosions sound like?"
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQOKvaYmPFQ
>Just like the WTC "collapse."
Thanks for posting those.
Dozens of witnesses there at the time reported the explosions.
*us*
about 9/11. Perhaps he believes they're sent from God.
*us*
us. I would have used very resource, every asset, every power of this government to
protect the American people.�ｿｽ"
"Surprisingly, Bush reiterated this comment at an April 13 press conference. �ｿｽ[T]here was
nobody in our government, at least, and I don�ｿｽt think the prior government that could
envision flying airplanes into buildings.�ｿｽ"
"Bush received an August 6, 2001 memo entitled �ｿｽBin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.�ｿｽ
which mentioned bin Laden�ｿｽs desire and capability to strike the US possibly using hijacked
airplanes. The CIA warned that bin Laden will launch an attack against the US and/or
Israel in the coming weeks that �ｿｽwill be spectacular and designed to inflict mass
casualties against US facilities or interests.�ｿｽ"
http://www.bushlies.net/911lies.html
The bushfilth believes that "God speaks through" Bush.
After all, Bush said so.
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:47:37 -0800 (PST), Iamanidiot <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... people watching the most watched event
>on the planet saw or heard something...
You're really stupid: video and audio are separate entities.
*us*
which mentioned bin Laden�s desire and capability to strike the US possibly using hijacked
airplanes. The CIA warned that bin Laden will launch an attack against the US and/or
casualties against US facilities or interests.�"
"Bush: �Had I known that the enemy was going to use airplanes to strike America, to attack
us. I would have used very resource, every asset, every power of this government to
protect the American people.�"
http://www.bushlies.net/911lies.html
The bushkultie kneels and swallows that lie, too.
*us*
Thanks for posting those.
They specifically said explosions.
The bushworshipper hates them a lot.
*us*
�misspoken� when she said there were no prior warnings,
but then proceeded to repeat this claim in public."
http://www.bushlies.net/911lies.html
The bushfilth still believes that lie, too.
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:45:20 -0800 (PST), Iamdude <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>...The designers fucked up...
You're desperate.
Why haven't you taken that up with architects?
*us*
The bushworshipper just swallowed all the lies, and
can't even consider the reason.
*us*
Thanks for posting those.
They specifically said explosions.
The bushworshipper has only hate, not reasoning ability.
*us*
n the fire-fighting efforts"
http://www.osti.gov/bridge/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=0&page=0&osti_id=15013327
Notice how the bushworshipper still wants to try to pretend
that the water didn't exist.
*us*
.
>The buildings were demolished.
>www.ae911truth.org
>www.http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM
Exactly.
Notice how even the most desperate bushworshipper
can't begin to offer any actual dispute.
*us*
Thanks for posting those.
They specifically said explosions.
The bushworshipper is unable to deal with reality.
*us*
Exactly.
All he has is fallacy.
*us*
http://www.osti.gov/bridge/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=0&page=0&osti_id=15013327
Notice how the bushworshipper still wants to try to pretend
that the water didn't exist.
It did.
*us*
>Buildings don't "fall" as though they only have to overcome air resistance.
>Steel has resistance. Get it yet?
The tops of the towers didn't hesitate at a fall of a few floors,
they dropped unimpeded into the dust clouds.
>Even if it only took 1 second per floor for thousands and thousands of
>welds to break and resistance of steel superstucture to be overcome by
>"gravity" it would have taken at leaast 60 seconds for the buildings to "fall."
>http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wtc+freefall&search_type=&aq=f
Those buildings were definitely demolished.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/collapses/freefall.html
*us*
>Buildings don't "fall" as though they only have to overcome air
>resistance.
>Steel has resistance.
>Get it yet?
>Even if it only took 1 second per floor for thousands and thousands of
>welds to break and resistance of steel superstucture to be overcome by
>"gravity" it would have taken at leaast 60 seconds for the buildings
>to "fall."
>
>http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wtc+freefall&search_type=&aq=f
The towers didn't crumble gradually, they fell with no delays.
*us*
encountered it, it would have greatly slowed (and in fact halted) the fall, since the
energy to crush each story and accelerate its mass downward would have to come from the
kinetic energy of falling mass."
http://911research.wtc7.net/materials/wtc/twintowers.html
*us*
"Those undamaged floors below the impact zone would have offered
resistance that is thousands of times greater than air."
Iarnrod
> "unless the intact portion of the building were demolished before the falling portion
> encountered it, it would have greatly slowed (and in fact halted) the fall, since the
> energy to crush each story and accelerate its mass downward would have to come from the
> kinetic energy of falling mass."
That is completely wrong and does not even make sense. If the upper
block broke up forst, THEN it might have slowed the destruction of the
lower portion. But as a single moving block of dynamic energy, it was
far more powerful.
You need a brain tune-up.
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:18:24 -0800 (PST), knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >Buildings don't "fall" as though they only have to overcome air resistance.
> >Steel has resistance. Get it yet?
>
> The tops of the towers didn't hesitate at a fall of a few floors,
> they dropped unimpeded into the dust clouds.
They were, of course, impeded by the lower floors. We know this for a
fact because free-falling debris that was tossed clear falls at free
fall and reaches the ground very quickly while the collapsing mass
takes about triple the amount of time of free fall.
> >Even if it only took 1 second per floor for thousands and thousands of
> >welds to break and resistance of steel superstucture to be overcome by
> >"gravity"
Show us your work as to this insane declaration of yours that it
should have taken one second per floor, as if the dynamic mass of
kineteic energy had to stop and break one weld at a time. You are
insane.
> it would have taken at leaast 60 seconds for the buildings to "fall."
False. There is no reasonable basis for you to suspend the law of
gravity to fit your childlike incredulity.
> Those buildings were definitely demolished.
By two plane crashes and raging out of control fires.
It is proven fact that there was no "controlled demolition."
Iarnrod
> >Buildings don't "fall" as though they only have to overcome air
> >resistance.
> >Steel has resistance.
> >Get it yet?
> >Even if it only took 1 second per floor for thousands and thousands of
> >welds to break and resistance of steel superstucture to be overcome by
> >"gravity" it would have taken at leaast 60 seconds for the buildings
> >to "fall."
>
>
> The towers didn't crumble gradually, they fell with no delays.
>
> "Those undamaged floors below the impact zone would have offered
> resistance that is thousands of times greater than air."
>
> http://911blimp.net/prf_FreeFallPhysics.shtml
Learn some physics, dope.
There was resistance. It was overcome by the exponentially greater
dynamic force of the falling mass above it.
This is precisely what would be expected.
No single intact floor could possibly have withstood the ever-
increasing destructive force of the falling mass.
Open a book and read instead of worshiping your magic kooksites.
*us*
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
"bin Laden's denial of having anything to do with the September 11, 2001 attacks in New
York City, Washington, D.C. and Pennsylvania"
"Bin Laden has consistently denied involvement in 9/11"
http://911review.org/Wiki/BinLaden.shtml
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:32:21 -0800 (PST), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Bin Laden has ...
He said he didn't do it.
VFW
this just in;
In article
<b493955b-8a5a-4bb8...@o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
"Whoops!" <amerikan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <
> A peer-reviewed scientific paper on the discovery of nanothermites in
> the dust of the World Trade Center has been published.
>
> Now, officially, we know for sure 911 WAS a government conspiracy.
> <
> Of course, you undoubtedly haven't read -- or heard -- a word of this
> CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY in the major media.
> <
> The presence of the highly explosive thermitic material is clear-cut
> physical evidence that the administration of George W. Bush and Dick
> Cheney planned and carried out the attack against its own citizens on
> Sept. 11, 2001.
> <
> And it also proves that the list of co-conspirators in the
> premeditated mass murder would fill the nation's largest prison to
> overflowing.
> <
> It means, beyond the shadow of a doubt, the Twin Towers as well as
> Building 7 all were brought down by controlled demolition.
> <
> It means that many, many tons of the explosive material had been
> brought into the skyscrapers days or weeks, maybe months, before
> Sept. 11.
> <
> http://www.travisredding.com/bush-911-jetfuel-wtc-laff.jpg
> <
> The end result was the perpetration of a colossal government hoax that
> "foreign terrorists" were responsible for 911, which then allowed
> Bush, Cheney and their stooges to convince unknowing Americans to
> allow the invasion of Afghanistan, then Iraq, and turn the entire
> Middle East to turmoil.
> <
> ==================================
> <
> EXPLOSIVES FOUND IN WTC DUST
> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Niels+Harrit&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#
> <
> THE BOMBSHELL TITLE:
> <
> "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust
> From 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe"
> <
> The paper concludes with this statement:
> <
> "Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the
> red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted
> thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly
> energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material."
> <
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13049
> <
> ANOTHER SOURCE
> http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/explosive_residues.html
> <
> ===================================
> <
> Yet news by independent scientific teams concerning the conclusive and
> documented use of thermitic material to cause the buildings to topple
> not NEW news. Actually, these revelations had been made months ago but
> the major media avoided mention like the plague.
> <
> That's why many of you are reading it here for the very first time.
> <
> Thermite is a pyrotechnic composition of a metal powder and a metal
> oxide, which produces an aluminothermic reaction known as a thermite
> reaction.
> <
> "Thermitic material" is a trademark used for a welding
> and incendiary mixture of fine aluminum powder with a metallic oxide,
> usually iron, that when ignited yields an intense heat.
> <
> The authors of the scientific paper are Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey
> Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel
> Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R Larsen.
> <
> This is their conclusion:
> <
> "We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we
> have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World
> Trade Center.
> <
> "Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites,
> is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked
> similarities in all four samples.
> <
> "One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about 10 minutes
> after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a
> fourth about a week later.
> <
> "The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy,
> scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive
> spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC).
> <
> "The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which
> are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like
> structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone
> demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present.
> <
> "The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material.
> When ignited in a DSC device, the chips exhibit large but narrow
> exotherms occurring at approximately 430 degrees C, far below the
> normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-
> rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the
> ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips.
> <
> "The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic
> material and highly energetic."
> <
> INTERVIEWS WITH NIELS HARRIT, TOP INVESTIGATOR
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_tf25lx_3o
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x73G2eMkBpw
> <
> The scientific team's conclusion (once again):
> <
> "Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the
> red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted
> thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly
> energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material."
> <
> This means that tons upon tons upon tons of thermitic material had
> been hauled into the South and North Tower, as well as WTC Building
> 7.
> <
> It means the Bush administration, undoubtedly quarterbacked by Dick
> Cheney, is gulity of the mass murder of more than 3,000 persons on our
> own soil.
> <
> It was done in order to open the door to the invasions of both
> Afghanistan and Iraq which had led to the death of some 4,000 American
> troops; the serious, debilitating injuries of perhaps four times that
> many; and the murder of more than a million persons in the Middle
> East.
> <
> =============
> <
> <
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not the first time a "False Flag" event was used to stampede the sheeple.
--
money; what a concept!
--
money; what a concept!
*us*
and some crudely faked videos that would never
stand up in court.
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
http://911review.org/Wiki/BinLaden.shtml
>Bin Laden has ...
There's no real evidence that he did do it.
The FBI agrees.
*us*
Exactly.
*us*
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
http://911review.org/Wiki/BinLaden.shtml
>Bin Laden has ...
The FBI agrees.
There is no valid evidence that ObL was actually involved in 9/11.
The bushfilth rants on, but he has nothing.
*us*
>...Everyone knows ...
Fallacy.
>...The FBI ...
You don't speak for them, bushfilthboi.
Even the most desperate bushfilth can't dispute the facts:
All the bushfilth has is Bush's crooked fingerpointing
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
http://911review.org/Wiki/BinLaden.shtml
>Bin Laden has ...
The FBI agrees.
There is no valid evidence that ObL was actually involved in 9/11.
*us*
>...all the evidence ...
If you had any, you should submit it to the FBI, bushbotboi.
>...work for Bush ...
You do that as he defecates on you, no less.
*us*
>... ad hominem attack instead of addressing point BEEP BEEP BEEP
>... got nothing.
The point is that you can't, despite your fervent devotion
to the Bush crime family, cite one factor in Bush's personal
or family history that'd prevent him from murdering thousands
of Americans for fun and profit.
Al Dykes
What does the Bush family have to do with the fact that fire and lack
of water for firefighting caused WTC7 to collapse?
--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail