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Bill Snyder  
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 More options Oct 7 2012, 10:08 am
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From: Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net>
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 09:08:27 -0500
Local: Sun, Oct 7 2012 10:08 am
Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:23:11 -0400, "bjac...@teranews.com"

<bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
>On 10/6/2012 4:38 PM, Fred^2 wrote:
>> HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com>  wrote:

>>> Harlow's Notes: So it is quite obvious that ufos do not exist.
>>> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/10/the-airforce/

>> bet you all the frothing loons out there now think that Wired
>> is in on the c0nsp1r@ce.

>Are you a Snider sock puppet? You sure have ripped a page out of his
>operations manual.

Free clue, shit-bot:  Lots of people laughed at Bozo the clown. It
wasn't because they were all conspirators or sock puppets. (But of
course, even with the free clue, you'll be totally unable to
figure out what other reason there might have been.)

--
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 More options Oct 7 2012, 10:54 am
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From: "bjac...@teranews.com" <bjac...@iwaynet.net>
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:55:13 -0400
Local: Sun, Oct 7 2012 10:55 am
Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On 10/7/2012 1:27 AM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>> Mystical property? How's your physics jimp?  How else are those
>> lenticular aerodynes going to make those "impossible" right angle turns
>> that everybody "imagines" they see? It doesn't matter if one is "insane"
>> if your science is correct. I think that is well established. [John
>> Forbes Nash jr.]

> Yep, coo coo for cocoa puffs.

So now your "science" has lapsed down to the level of Wormley and
Snider?  Obvious proof this subject is politics and not science!

> Not that I want to feed your insanity, but those "impossible" right angle
> turns aren't "impossible" because the airframe can't do it, but because
> the crew couldn't withstand them.

Whew! Just so long as we are sure that everyone who thinks they saw them
was "coo coo for cocoa puffs" and they are still "impossible".

> That is unless a round wing has some mystical magic property.

It does have a "magical" property! Unlike human aircraft it flies just
as well at 90 degrees to it's current direction of motion.

>> You still haven't explained just HOW you became familiar with "ALL"
>> attempts to build such craft so as to be sure they are "all" failures.

> Yep, coo coo for cocoa puffs.

Logical lapse, answered with accusations of insanity for critics. I take
it you are signed up for some of "professor" Wormley's classes and he's
educating your in how to do "climate science"! Perhaps then YOU can
explain how adding constant increasing heat to an object makes its
temperature go down? All Wormley can say is "coo coo for cocoa puffs"!

 
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 More options Oct 7 2012, 12:16 pm
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From: j...@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:04:43 -0000
Local: Sun, Oct 7 2012 12:04 pm
Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
In sci.physics bjac...@teranews.com <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:

> On 10/7/2012 1:27 AM, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>>> Mystical property? How's your physics jimp?  How else are those
>>> lenticular aerodynes going to make those "impossible" right angle turns
>>> that everybody "imagines" they see? It doesn't matter if one is "insane"
>>> if your science is correct. I think that is well established. [John
>>> Forbes Nash jr.]

>> Yep, coo coo for cocoa puffs.

> So now your "science" has lapsed down to the level of Wormley and
> Snider?  Obvious proof this subject is politics and not science!

Nope, it is just that you are obviously nuts.

>> Not that I want to feed your insanity, but those "impossible" right angle
>> turns aren't "impossible" because the airframe can't do it, but because
>> the crew couldn't withstand them.

> Whew! Just so long as we are sure that everyone who thinks they saw them
> was "coo coo for cocoa puffs" and they are still "impossible".

Illogical gibberish.

>> That is unless a round wing has some mystical magic property.

> It does have a "magical" property! Unlike human aircraft it flies just
> as well at 90 degrees to it's current direction of motion.

And that would be derirable in what comic book world?

You do know helicopters can do that but usually don't as it makes it
difficult to steer that way?

>>> You still haven't explained just HOW you became familiar with "ALL"
>>> attempts to build such craft so as to be sure they are "all" failures.

>> Yep, coo coo for cocoa puffs.

> Logical lapse, answered with accusations of insanity for critics. I take
> it you are signed up for some of "professor" Wormley's classes and he's
> educating your in how to do "climate science"! Perhaps then YOU can
> explain how adding constant increasing heat to an object makes its
> temperature go down? All Wormley can say is "coo coo for cocoa puffs"!

Another pile of illogical gibberish.

 
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 More options Oct 7 2012, 12:56 pm
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From: repo...@scientology.org (Fred^2)
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 16:56:38 GMT
Local: Sun, Oct 7 2012 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer

"bjac...@teranews.com" <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
>On 10/6/2012 4:38 PM, Fred^2 wrote:
>> HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> Harlow's Notes: So it is quite obvious that ufos do not exist.
>>> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/10/the-airforce/
>> bet you all the frothing loons out there now think that Wired
>> is in on the c0nsp1r@ce.
>Are you a Snider sock puppet? You sure have ripped a page out of his
>operations manual.

oh noes! is all them scientists ganging up on you, loon?

wrap anoter layer of foil around yer head, that should stop it.


 
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 More options Oct 7 2012, 4:02 pm
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From: CWatters <colin.watt...@NOturnersoakSPAM.plus.com>
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:02:28 +0100
Local: Sun, Oct 7 2012 4:02 pm
Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On 06/10/2012 14:05, HVAC wrote:

> It begs the question – why was the project dropped?

They probably showed it to someone who knew something about aerodynamics
and they fell about laughing. The shape choosen isn't exactly the most
streamlined.

 
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 More options Oct 7 2012, 6:29 pm
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From: Painius <starswir...@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:29:47 -0400
Local: Sun, Oct 7 2012 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer

On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 09:05:52 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Harlow's Notes: So it is quite obvious that ufos do not exist.

>http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/10/the-airforce/

>Officially, aliens have never existed but flying saucers very nearly
>did. The National Archives has recently published never-before-seen
>schematics and details of a 1950s military venture, called Project 1794,
>which aimed to build a supersonic flying saucer.
> . . .

That design was flawed from the getgo.  Real saucers have no moving
parts.  The round design is to accomodate the winding of wire around
the outer edge to result in a powerful electromagnetic field.  The
field can then interact with a planet's magnetic field.  Controls
within the saucer are designed to maneuver the vehicle by altering the
interaction with the planetary field.  These vehicles may only be used
for travel within the atmosphere of a planet that has at least a small
magnetic field.

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 More options Oct 7 2012, 6:35 pm
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From: Painius <starswir...@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:35:57 -0400
Local: Sun, Oct 7 2012 6:35 pm
Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer

No, not a round wing exactly.  The top of the saucer must be built
like the top of a wing, and the bottom is flat like the bottom of a
wing, to produce an airfoil.  The controls, which alter the
interaction between the saucer's powerful electromagnetic field with a
planet's magnetic field, work together with the airfoil shape to
produce lift and thrust.

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 More options Oct 7 2012, 6:57 pm
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From: Painius <starswir...@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:57:59 -0400
Local: Sun, Oct 7 2012 6:57 pm
Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 11:44:24 -0700, Mike Painter

It's an "effective" spin.  The saucer itself does not spin; the
electrons in the current through the wires that encircle the saucer do
the "spinning" around the edge.  That builds up a powerful
electromagnetic field that interacts with a planet's magnetic field.

If the top of the saucer is built like the top of a wing, while the
bottom is flat like the bottom of a wing, you have a 360 degree
airfoil.

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 More options Oct 7 2012, 7:01 pm
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From: j...@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:56:48 -0000
Local: Sun, Oct 7 2012 6:56 pm
Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
In sci.physics Painius <starswir...@aol.com> wrote:

Yeah, sure they do.

And it is the round shape and a liberal sprinkling of pixie dust that
makes this all work...

Yet another nut coo coo for cocoa puffs.


 
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 More options Oct 7 2012, 7:28 pm
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From: Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:28:10 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Oct 7 2012 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On Oct 7, 6:35 pm, Painius <starswir...@aol.com> wrote:

Interesting.  So your saying a turtle is infinitely
more airworthy than say, a seagull?

 
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 More options Oct 7 2012, 7:30 pm
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From: Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:30:10 -0500
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Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:28:10 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
<fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism:

Is that why it's turtles all the way down?

 
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 More options Oct 7 2012, 7:33 pm
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From: Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:33:22 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On Oct 7, 7:30 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

Yes.  Flying turtles, apparently.

 
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 More options Oct 7 2012, 10:09 pm
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From: Painius <starswir...@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:09:25 -0400
Local: Sun, Oct 7 2012 10:09 pm
Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:28:10 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell

The turtle's shape is more conducive to being "waterworthy".

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From: Painius <starswir...@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:12:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer

It's just speculation and conjecture - the result of an imagination of
such things.

Evidently an imagination is foreign to you?

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 More options Oct 7 2012, 10:46 pm
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Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:46:16 -0500
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Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer

You're arguing with someone who contends that self-driving cars will never
work, and was still saying so the year (2010) one drove itself from Parma,
Italy to Shanghai, China. -- Goat

 
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From: Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 20:16:22 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On Oct 7, 10:09 pm, Painius <starswir...@aol.com> wrote:

Then why are there land tortoises?

 
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Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 20:19:24 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On Oct 7, 12:16 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

wooooooooooshhhhh .............

(I think I'm getting the hang of this.  So much fun, so little time)


 
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Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 20:20:26 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On Oct 6, 9:05 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

nithywab taktor ... hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 
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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:37:59 -0400
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Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On 10/7/2012 11:19 PM, Thomas Trotter wrote:

YES! You are!  Welcome aboard! :-)

 
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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 00:39:35 -0400
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Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On 10/7/2012 7:28 PM, Father Haskell wrote:

Depends on how fast it's flying and how many right angle turns it needs
to make!

 
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From: Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 21:41:05 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On Oct 7, 6:29 pm, Painius <starswir...@aol.com> wrote:

> That design was flawed from the getgo.  Real saucers have no moving
> parts.

But do they have windows that can be opened?

 
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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:48:06 -0700
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Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 21:41:05 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell

<fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Oct 7, 6:29 pm, Painius <starswir...@aol.com> wrote:

>> That design was flawed from the getgo.  Real saucers have no moving
>> parts.

>But do they have windows that can be opened?

Or doors so the aliends can come out to use their anal probes on
Paininarse.

 
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From: HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:36:29 -0400
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Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On 10/7/2012 7:28 PM, Father Haskell wrote:

>> No, not a round wing exactly.  The top of the saucer must be built
>> like the top of a wing, and the bottom is flat like the bottom of a
>> wing, to produce an airfoil.  The controls, which alter the
>> interaction between the saucer's powerful electromagnetic field with a
>> planet's magnetic field, work together with the airfoil shape to
>> produce lift and thrust.

> Interesting.  So your saying a turtle is infinitely
> more airworthy than say, a seagull?

Only if the turtle is outfitted with an electromagnetic field generator.

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From: HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:38:42 -0400
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Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
On 10/7/2012 7:28 PM, Father Haskell wrote:

>> No, not a round wing exactly.  The top of the saucer must be built
>> like the top of a wing, and the bottom is flat like the bottom of a
>> wing, to produce an airfoil.  The controls, which alter the
>> interaction between the saucer's powerful electromagnetic field with a
>> planet's magnetic field, work together with the airfoil shape to
>> produce lift and thrust.

> Interesting.  So your saying a turtle is infinitely
> more airworthy than say, a seagull?

http://newsanvil.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/picture-019.jpg?w=300&h=225

Proof.

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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:14:44 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Schematics For A Flying Saucer
  Maybe we don't believe UFOs. But we're talking about designs for space crafts

 
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