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Helmut Wabnig  
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 More options Oct 9 2012, 4:20 am
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From: Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat>
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 10:16:50 +0200
Local: Tues, Oct 9 2012 4:16 am
Subject: Re: repetition of MMX with radiowaves
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 22:26:38 -0700 (PDT), Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it>
wrote:

Italians drink too much wine.

w.


 
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Jan Panteltje  
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 More options Oct 9 2012, 4:43 am
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From: Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 08:43:19 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 9 2012 4:43 am
Subject: Re: repetition of MMX with radiowaves
On a sunny day (Mon, 8 Oct 2012 22:26:38 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
<fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
<5031fc39-0517-490e-aa85-8fb221ebc...@k6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>:

>> >http://www.2shared.com/document/xN_G7Vt-/preface.html

>> That is a very nice intro.
>> I want to think for a while about your results before making some stupid remark perhaps :-)

>> Does not putting metal containg thermal insulation foil affect the impedances on that PCB?

>Do you think that? Why a PCB could affect the impedence?
>If you refer to
>http://youtu.be/q_OriOq5x5g

>See: inside the box it is only the rigid coaxial cable with the two
>detector diodes. No any PCB.

OK.

You mentioned the 'tides' of the moon affecting your experiment (you did not say which one and how).
Take this test please:

Was the affected experiment the horizontal ring? If not goto pizza.
Was the experiment done vertical less sensitive to those tides than when horizontal? If not goto pizza.
Are you located close to the coast / sea / beach ? If not goto pizza.

WINNER!
You are measuring reflections from ground water level.
You have re-invented ground penetrating radar.
The ground water level will change with the tides a bit,
the ground water acts like a large metal reflector just below your laboratory.

This is all based on my theory that you are experiencing reflections :-)
No magic, no Nobel,
have an expresso.
Next experiment
end

pizza:
relax, think of better explanation.
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Casimiro  
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 More options Oct 9 2012, 5:14 am
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From: Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it>
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 02:14:02 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 9 2012 5:14 am
Subject: Re: repetition of MMX with radiowaves
On 9 Ott, 10:43, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

mah...

If you are again interest read this

Summary-
Description of a new phase detector of microwaves.
In spite of measurements with light of Michelson Morley (et alteri),
always failed, this microwaves detector  permits the detection of
microscopic phase shifts, till to 1/1000000 of a cycle.

THEORY

The “phase Doppler”
– Commonly the phase of a wave was never considered in Doppler effect,
where only frequency is considered. A brief analysis is then
necessary.
And interesting.
Is possible, with the phase Doppler, to measure the velocity of the
medium, although if don’t exists relative motion. Being a phase
Doppler” the displacement of wave fronts of a wave travelling in space
with you, comparing the phase of fronts tell you if you are moving or
not: is enough to turn the detector 90°. Up today this simple
phenomenon is unexplored by physics.
The phase changes , tourning 90°, in proportion of  v/c , where v is
the displacement speed of source in the medium, and c is the
propagation speed in still medium of an electromagnetic perturbation.
Then the phase Doppler to be expected in astronomic movements, as
rotation of Earth,  will be a very little fraction of a cycle.  But
red-shift and blue shift tell us the big velocities of galaxies!
Light and radiowaves are not both electromagnetic waves, subjected
both to same lows?
The experiment with radiowaves  need simply
1 - a good syntetized generator,
2- any space where the wave travels – for instance a well screened
closed space in a waveguide, or also in a coaxial cable . This one
because Heaviside teaches that propagation in wire-lines obeys  to the
same lows as flat waves in the free space, simply slower.
3- a good phase discriminator, to detect the distance of fronts of
start and that of arrival of the same wave, or phase shift, when
orienting all that set up  in the space.
The discriminator , by experience, must be placed inside the measured
space. Every microscopic movement of diodes, walls of waveguide,
connector to generator, can produce phase variations. All must be
hermetically soldered.
Every gap or hole modifies the phase! The connection to generator must
be shorter possible. If do you use coaxial cable this one must be
soldered completely to ground of the box, and soldered the cover.
I used  in all my experiments a Gigatronix 7200 as oscillator. All
other models of generators are usable, if syntetized.  This is very
important, because the null frequency of quadrature discriminator
senses some Hertz s!
Frequency is imposed by the null frequency of discriminator. Then
frequency steps must be of a minimum of  1 KHz.
RF power must be 10 dBm , (10 mW) for a d.c. output ranging from of
some milliVolt , to some ...Volt (obtained only with circular
waveguide).

Every laboratory in the world can easily repeat this experiment! Is
the beauty of  electronics, for me survival son of classical Physics!


 
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Casimiro  
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 12:57 am
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From: Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it>
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 21:57:07 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 12:57 am
Subject: Re: repetition of MMX with radiowaves
On 9 Ott, 10:43, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Thank you for your theory, really "magic".
How a coaxial cable, closed in  COMPLETLY SCREENED BOX, could be
a...radar of water? Are you a gambler?
 Are you cultor of occult sciences?
I constated a strange coincidence with TERRESTRIAL tides. It's with
gravitational field. Nobody till now noted it.
Is'nt the first time that the three fields are connected? And
connection thru the ether?
If you are interested wait the remaining thousand pages that I , if
gods will give me time, I will write.

 
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 1:02 am
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From: Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it>
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 22:02:22 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 1:02 am
Subject: Re: repetition of MMX with radiowaves
On 10 Ott, 06:57, Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote:

forget: it could become the conjunction ringle of three fields, as the
electric current was the conjunction between electricity and
magnetism... Don't you note the importance? Only crazy theories?

 
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 5:14 am
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From: Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:13:47 GMT
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 5:13 am
Subject: Re: repetition of MMX with radiowaves
On a sunny day (Tue, 9 Oct 2012 22:02:22 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
<fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
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>forget: it could become the conjunction ringle of three fields, as the
>electric current was the conjunction between electricity and
>magnetism... Don't you note the importance? Only crazy theories?

Well, the Nobel in physics this year DID go to someone else.

You will have to get used to people shooting your dreams down.
Science is that way, sorry if it disturbed your life-long illusions.

Try posting to sci.physics.reseach.
Its moderated.
:-)


 
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 5:14 am
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From: Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:13:51 GMT
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 5:13 am
Subject: Re: repetition of MMX with radiowaves
On a sunny day (Tue, 9 Oct 2012 21:57:07 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
<fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
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No coax is perfect.
Coax couples to box, box to environment.
I am not claiming may analysis is right,
but I do claim you give zero data and a lot of hot air.

You have failed to produce even once decent drawing plus data for even one experimen,
you olny talk hot air.

> Are you cultor of occult sciences?
>I constated a strange coincidence with TERRESTRIAL tides. It's with
>gravitational field. Nobody till now noted it.
>Is'nt the first time that the three fields are connected? And
>connection thru the ether?
>If you are interested wait the remaining thousand pages that I , if
>gods will give me time, I will write.

I give up.

 
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 4:48 pm
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From: Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:48:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: repetition of MMX with radiowaves
On 10 Ott, 11:14, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On a sunny day (Tue, 9 Oct 2012 22:02:22 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
> <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
> <3ab04cb1-468d-4d6b-8e7a-05541016a...@w2g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>:
.

> Try posting to sci.physics.reseach.
> Its moderated.
> :-)

I did and wait.

 
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 4:56 pm
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From: Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:56:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: repetition of MMX with radiowaves
On 10 Ott, 11:14, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yes, of coarse, I know. For this I screened completly the junctions.
And again putted in the box a microwave absorber.
Now I'm writing . I have too much and is laborious to choise them.

> You have failed to produce even once decent drawing plus data for even one experimen,
> you olny talk hot air.

Yes , I think I'm talking to air.

 
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 8:21 am
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From: Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 05:21:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 8:21 am
Subject: Re: repetition of MMX with radiowaves
On 6 Ott, 01:09, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"

Well, I'm following the teachings of fool people as friar Willelm from
Occam, who teachs that before to change old theories is neccessary to
try
and try again if the phenomenon can be explained with them...
Then I would apply this teaching to the Maxwell theory before to adopt
crazy
explainations as "compression-dilation of the space-time"  of
Einstein, contrary to holy and forgotten COMMON SENSE. - who gambled
with mathematical non sense (as said your great astro physic Dingle -
Occam and Dingle... do you know?
Common sense were not the basic foundation of old british civilty? As
conservatorism ?  Common sense completly forgoten?
 Einstein was of the other school, the Kant's logic, rational and
abstract. And the common sense for him hav'nt sense.

 
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 8:29 am
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From: Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 05:29:36 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: repetition of MMX with radiowaves
On 11 Ott, 14:21, Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote:

So I writed untill now this resumé
http://www.2shared.com/document/nXDXLZ34/Introduction.html

 
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 4:31 pm
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From: Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:31:50 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: repetition of MMX with radiowaves
On 5 Ott, 12:38, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Not at all! I'm measuring only a VERTICAL  speed. It means that the
ether is "raining"... strange ether, but that is what I measure...

 
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