> On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Oct 2012 23:58:09 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
> <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
> <cf1ffd23-4c2f-4ebc-af23-c85778402...@d3g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>:
> >> So, compute the speed of the ether wind,
> >> and for your position north of the equator it should then vary in a 24 hour
> >> sequence as you rotate in the earth orbit in the same, and then the opposite direction
> >> every day night.
> >> Assuming that variation is big enough to measure.
> >> Leave it running for a week, show the paper tape...
> >> Then for a year, as earth orbist sun...
> >> Then for a ??? as earth and sun move .. spiral arms galaxy..
> >> You need a lot of paper :-)
> >I have yet done. I have hundreds and hundred chart recordings, made
> >with various phase detectors. All have the nearly same slope ,
> >different in seasons.
> >I shall write a paper relation.
> OK,
> I think the most important things to watch out for systematic errors.
> For example temperature changes,
> I see you also tilt the generator, so is its frequency stable when tilted?
> Expansion and contraction of the arms in you magic T?
> Someting lose (could be just a dust particle, or even air) in the waveguides?
> Amplitude variation?
> Bending cables?
> Magnetic fields, from earth and from other things like from equipment near the experiment.
> Light intensity changes possibly effecting your detection equipment.
> The list is endless, you need to make sure the effct of all thse things is measured,
> and proven to be significantly less than your 'signal'.
> You are working in cm range wavelength, MM was working with light, a many orders of magnitude smaller wavelength.
> At that wavelength a few degrees phaseshift seems more sensitive to me than with your setup?
> It would be nice if you could really show some variation.
> The experiment seems simple, I could even do it here, just do not have that fancy generator ...
Well! Do it! Is simple.
Anout ypur objections the answers are in the video. May be you have
not understood because in italian. But to morrow may be ready the
english subtitulation (it is a work...).
> > > > > If you change the path length between source and detector there
> > > > > WILL be a shift. What is that supposed to prove?
> > > > Of coarse. For this I preferred rigid coaxial cable to waveguide in
> > > > which the antennas could move some micron.
> > > > ==========================================
> > > > I still fail to understand what you are trying to prove.
> > > The medium existence, or ether. Simple.
> > > ===========================================================
> > > Oh, I see. You want to prove something that doesn’t exist, does.
> > > > MMX was set up to measure the speed of light in the supposed aether
> > > > with the knowledge of the Earth’s velocity in that stationary medium,
> > > > so what is the purpose of using coaxial cable carried along with
> > > > source and detector in place of an aether wind?
> > > The light or radio waves are the same phenomenon: both are
> > > electromagnetic waves, differing only in frequency.
> > > =============================================
> > > There are electric waves and there are magnetic waves, but there
> > > are no magnetoelectric or electromagnetic waves. Electric waves
> > > that have the same frequency and direction as the magnetic wave
> > > are displaced in phase by 90 degrees, so they are different. Simple.
> > > But wavelengths of centimeters are easier measurable than angstrom
> > > waves!
> > > ==========================
> > > Whoopee! How exciting! Huge Ferris wheels are easier measurable than
> > > tiny roller skate wheels! Simple! Lots of exclamation marks because
> > > this is really thrilling!!!!!
> > > For centimeters waves exist precision instruments and an improved
> > > technique.
> > > Coaxial cable is matter thru which ether travels simply slower than in
> > > free space.
> > > ===================================
> > > Aether travels through matter like Santa Claus travels on a sleigh
> > > and visits all the children on Xmas Eve. I have news for you.
> > > Santa and aether are myths and this a physics forum, sonny.
> > > It’s time you grew up. Simple.
> > > > The direct analogy is the sound inside the plane. The air outside
> > > > is rushing past at 500 mph, but the air inside is calm and carries
> > > > sound normally.
> > > You say that ether is still on the earth?
> > > ==================================
> > > No. I say aether is nonsense, but Santa is needed to
> > > deliver presents under Xmas trees for children. Simple.
> > > But I measure a velocity. Tens kilometers/s. This I deduce
> > > from changes of wavelength of radiowaves moving my instrument ,
> > > detected with phase detector.
> > > ============================
> > > Velocity of what, relative to what?
> > > I measure presents under the Xmas tree. The presents are real,
> > > so Santa put them there really fast, he has millions of homes
> > > to visit in one night. Santa travels much faster than light. Simple.
> > > Now you tie a piece of string between two cans
> > > > and pulling it taught, talk into one can and are heard in the other
> > > > with the string as the sound carrying medium to simulate your
> > > > coax. What’s the point?
> > > The string is the medium.
> > > ======================================
> > > So sound waves needs no air and magnetic fields needs no aether, but
> > > presents under Xmas trees need Santa. Simple. What is your point?
> > > > The simple answer to MMX is the same as a game of table tennis
> > > > on the plane. The speed of light and ping pong balls is source
> > > > dependent and has nothing whatever to do with the aether/air
> > > > outside the plane, and of course there is no aether anyway.
> > > > Light and radio waves are carried by alternating electric and
> > > > magnetic fields, not a mechanical aether.
> > > Ether is'nt mechanical, is simply the support of magnetic, electric
> > > and gravitational fields.
> > > May be the "dark matter" of modern physics...
> > > ====================================
> > > Santa isn’t human, he’s simply the delivery agent supported
> > > by reindeer and the help of elves to make all the toys. Simple.
> > > Maybe the dark angel of ancient idiocy. Simple.
> > > > The ball with fly better
> > > > without air, you can play squash in the cargo bay of the space
> > > > shuttle under airless conditions, and so will light. Aether and
> > > > relativity are nonsense.
> > > > If you want to do something useful, measure the speed of radio
> > > > waves in waveguides. Don’t take Einstein’s word for it, he was
> > > > an idiot. It’ll be different to that of the speed of light and you’ll
> > > > be the first to find it. And repeat at a different frequency.
> > > Sorry, I pursue with my head.
> > > ===========================
> > > Pity your sorry head is full of aether with no brain. Tell
> > > your aether story to the children. Over and out. Simple.
> > > -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> > > Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
> > divertissement pour vous.
> > OK.
> All is explained in the video, (I'm subtitling in english). For you!
> Please, how do you explaine the phase changes directing in space the
> magic T? Santa Claus?
> =====================================================
> Yes. Instead of proving the aether exists when it doesn’t I’ve proved
> Santa Claus exists, as you have now realised. All is explained under
> the Xmas tree.
> I have done a measure of "absolute speed" relative , 90° tilting the
> T.
> Do you know "sound anemometers" ? Well, I changed the sound with a
> radiowave generated by a syntetized oscillator.
> Change of phase say me the speed. Simple
> Change of phase says to me no aether. Simple.
> http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/AC.htm > -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
funny cartons! Ok, physics is Holliwoodian, to day. Phantascience...
I pursue for my way. Old fashon...
On a sunny day (Sat, 6 Oct 2012 05:44:19 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
<fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
<4e54db00-383f-48b2-8b53-7bdd64ee1...@c20g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>:
>On 6 Ott, 10:53, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Oct 2012 23:58:09 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
>> <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
>> <cf1ffd23-4c2f-4ebc-af23-c85778402...@d3g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>:
>> >> So, compute the speed of the ether wind,
>> >> and for your position north of the equator it should then vary in a 24 hour
>> >> sequence as you rotate in the earth orbit in the same, and then the opposite direction
>> >> every day night.
>> >> Assuming that variation is big enough to measure.
>> >> Leave it running for a week, show the paper tape...
>> >> Then for a year, as earth orbist sun...
>> >> Then for a ??? as earth and sun move .. spiral arms galaxy..
>> >> You need a lot of paper :-)
>> >I have yet done. I have hundreds and hundred chart recordings, made
>> >with various phase detectors. All have the nearly same slope ,
>> >different in seasons.
>> >I shall write a paper relation.
>> OK,
>> I think the most important things to watch out for systematic errors.
>> For example temperature changes,
>> I see you also tilt the generator, so is its frequency stable when tilted?
>> Expansion and contraction of the arms in you magic T?
>> Someting lose (could be just a dust particle, or even air) in the waveguides?
>> Amplitude variation?
>> Bending cables?
>> Magnetic fields, from earth and from other things like from equipment near the experiment.
>> Light intensity changes possibly effecting your detection equipment.
>> The list is endless, you need to make sure the effct of all thse things is measured,
>> and proven to be significantly less than your 'signal'.
>> You are working in cm range wavelength, MM was working with light, a many orders of magnitude smaller wavelength.
>> At that wavelength a few degrees phaseshift seems more sensitive to me than with your setup?
>> It would be nice if you could really show some variation.
>> The experiment seems simple, I could even do it here, just do not have that fancy generator ...
>Well! Do it! Is simple.
>Anout ypur objections the answers are in the video. May be you have
>not understood because in italian. But to morrow may be ready the
>english subtitulation (it is a work...).
True, I wait for thw English translation, my Italian is not good,
I know lires and pizza, been a long time since I was in Italy.
No more lires now...
> > > > > If you change the path length between source and detector there
> > > > > WILL be a shift. What is that supposed to prove?
> > > > Of coarse. For this I preferred rigid coaxial cable to waveguide in
> > > > which the antennas could move some micron.
> > > > ==========================================
> > > > I still fail to understand what you are trying to prove.
> > > The medium existence, or ether. Simple.
> > > ===========================================================
> > > Oh, I see. You want to prove something that doesn’t exist, does.
> > > > MMX was set up to measure the speed of light in the supposed aether
> > > > with the knowledge of the Earth’s velocity in that stationary medium,
> > > > so what is the purpose of using coaxial cable carried along with
> > > > source and detector in place of an aether wind?
> > > The light or radio waves are the same phenomenon: both are
> > > electromagnetic waves, differing only in frequency.
> > > =============================================
> > > There are electric waves and there are magnetic waves, but there
> > > are no magnetoelectric or electromagnetic waves. Electric waves
> > > that have the same frequency and direction as the magnetic wave
> > > are displaced in phase by 90 degrees, so they are different. Simple.
> > > But wavelengths of centimeters are easier measurable than angstrom
> > > waves!
> > > ==========================
> > > Whoopee! How exciting! Huge Ferris wheels are easier measurable than
> > > tiny roller skate wheels! Simple! Lots of exclamation marks because
> > > this is really thrilling!!!!!
> > > For centimeters waves exist precision instruments and an improved
> > > technique.
> > > Coaxial cable is matter thru which ether travels simply slower than in
> > > free space.
> > > ===================================
> > > Aether travels through matter like Santa Claus travels on a sleigh
> > > and visits all the children on Xmas Eve. I have news for you.
> > > Santa and aether are myths and this a physics forum, sonny.
> > > It’s time you grew up. Simple.
> > > > The direct analogy is the sound inside the plane. The air outside
> > > > is rushing past at 500 mph, but the air inside is calm and carries
> > > > sound normally.
> > > You say that ether is still on the earth?
> > > ==================================
> > > No. I say aether is nonsense, but Santa is needed to
> > > deliver presents under Xmas trees for children. Simple.
> > > But I measure a velocity. Tens kilometers/s. This I deduce
> > > from changes of wavelength of radiowaves moving my instrument ,
> > > detected with phase detector.
> > > ============================
> > > Velocity of what, relative to what?
> > > I measure presents under the Xmas tree. The presents are real,
> > > so Santa put them there really fast, he has millions of homes
> > > to visit in one night. Santa travels much faster than light. Simple.
> > > Now you tie a piece of string between two cans
> > > > and pulling it taught, talk into one can and are heard in the other
> > > > with the string as the sound carrying medium to simulate your
> > > > coax. What’s the point?
> > > The string is the medium.
> > > ======================================
> > > So sound waves needs no air and magnetic fields needs no aether, but
> > > presents under Xmas trees need Santa. Simple. What is your point?
> > > > The simple answer to MMX is the same as a game of table tennis
> > > > on the plane. The speed of light and ping pong balls is source
> > > > dependent and has nothing whatever to do with the aether/air
> > > > outside the plane, and of course there is no aether anyway.
> > > > Light and radio waves are carried by alternating electric and
> > > > magnetic fields, not a mechanical aether.
> > > Ether is'nt mechanical, is simply the support of magnetic, electric
> > > and gravitational fields.
> > > May be the "dark matter" of modern physics...
> > > ====================================
> > > Santa isn’t human, he’s simply the delivery agent supported
> > > by reindeer and the help of elves to make all the toys. Simple.
> > > Maybe the dark angel of ancient idiocy. Simple.
> > > > The ball with fly better
> > > > without air, you can play squash in the cargo bay of the space
> > > > shuttle under airless conditions, and so will light. Aether and
> > > > relativity are nonsense.
> > > > If you want to do something useful, measure the speed of radio
> > > > waves in waveguides. Don’t take Einstein’s word for it, he was
> > > > an idiot. It’ll be different to that of the speed of light and you’ll
> > > > be the first to find it. And repeat at a different frequency.
> > > Sorry, I pursue with my head.
> > > ===========================
> > > Pity your sorry head is full of aether with no brain. Tell
> > > your aether story to the children. Over and out. Simple.
> > > -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> > > Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
> > divertissement pour vous.
> > OK.
> All is explained in the video, (I'm subtitling in english). For you!
> Please, how do you explaine the phase changes directing in space the
> magic T? Santa Claus?
> =====================================================
> Yes. Instead of proving the aether exists when it doesn’t I’ve proved
> Santa Claus exists, as you have now realised. All is explained under
> the Xmas tree.
> I have done a measure of "absolute speed" relative , 90° tilting the
> T.
> Do you know "sound anemometers" ? Well, I changed the sound with a
> radiowave generated by a syntetized oscillator.
> Change of phase say me the speed. Simple
> Change of phase says to me no aether. Simple.
> http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/AC.htm > -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
funny cartons! Ok, physics is Holliwoodian, to day. Phantascience...
I pursue for my way. Old fashon...
=========================================
Casimiro’s fantasy physics:
http://www.sfkids.org/uploadedImages/kid%20on%20swing.JPG
-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 08:53:36 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>The experiment seems simple, I could even do it here, just do not have that fancy generator ...
Indeed.
I was impressed by the setup, apparently built on his own dime.
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 08:53:36 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >The experiment seems simple, I could even do it here, just do not have that fancy generator ...
> Indeed.
> I was impressed by the setup, apparently built on his own dime.
Yes! But the Gigatronix is the cost.
Any other syntetized oscillator covering to 4 GHz could be enought. It
must have steps of 1 KHz...
> > > > > > If you change the path length between source and detector there
> > > > > > WILL be a shift. What is that supposed to prove?
> > > > > Of coarse. For this I preferred rigid coaxial cable to waveguide in
> > > > > which the antennas could move some micron.
> > > > > ==========================================
> > > > > I still fail to understand what you are trying to prove.
> > > > The medium existence, or ether. Simple.
> > > > ===========================================================
> > > > Oh, I see. You want to prove something that doesn’t exist, does.
> > > > > MMX was set up to measure the speed of light in the supposed aether
> > > > > with the knowledge of the Earth’s velocity in that stationary medium,
> > > > > so what is the purpose of using coaxial cable carried along with
> > > > > source and detector in place of an aether wind?
> > > > The light or radio waves are the same phenomenon: both are
> > > > electromagnetic waves, differing only in frequency.
> > > > =============================================
> > > > There are electric waves and there are magnetic waves, but there
> > > > are no magnetoelectric or electromagnetic waves. Electric waves
> > > > that have the same frequency and direction as the magnetic wave
> > > > are displaced in phase by 90 degrees, so they are different. Simple.
> > > > But wavelengths of centimeters are easier measurable than angstrom
> > > > waves!
> > > > ==========================
> > > > Whoopee! How exciting! Huge Ferris wheels are easier measurable than
> > > > tiny roller skate wheels! Simple! Lots of exclamation marks because
> > > > this is really thrilling!!!!!
> > > > For centimeters waves exist precision instruments and an improved
> > > > technique.
> > > > Coaxial cable is matter thru which ether travels simply slower than in
> > > > free space.
> > > > ===================================
> > > > Aether travels through matter like Santa Claus travels on a sleigh
> > > > and visits all the children on Xmas Eve. I have news for you.
> > > > Santa and aether are myths and this a physics forum, sonny.
> > > > It’s time you grew up. Simple.
> > > > > The direct analogy is the sound inside the plane. The air outside
> > > > > is rushing past at 500 mph, but the air inside is calm and carries
> > > > > sound normally.
> > > > You say that ether is still on the earth?
> > > > ==================================
> > > > No. I say aether is nonsense, but Santa is needed to
> > > > deliver presents under Xmas trees for children. Simple.
> > > > But I measure a velocity. Tens kilometers/s. This I deduce
> > > > from changes of wavelength of radiowaves moving my instrument ,
> > > > detected with phase detector.
> > > > ============================
> > > > Velocity of what, relative to what?
> > > > I measure presents under the Xmas tree. The presents are real,
> > > > so Santa put them there really fast, he has millions of homes
> > > > to visit in one night. Santa travels much faster than light. Simple.
> > > > Now you tie a piece of string between two cans
> > > > > and pulling it taught, talk into one can and are heard in the other
> > > > > with the string as the sound carrying medium to simulate your
> > > > > coax. What’s the point?
> > > > The string is the medium.
> > > > ======================================
> > > > So sound waves needs no air and magnetic fields needs no aether, but
> > > > presents under Xmas trees need Santa. Simple. What is your point?
> > > > > The simple answer to MMX is the same as a game of table tennis
> > > > > on the plane. The speed of light and ping pong balls is source
> > > > > dependent and has nothing whatever to do with the aether/air
> > > > > outside the plane, and of course there is no aether anyway.
> > > > > Light and radio waves are carried by alternating electric and
> > > > > magnetic fields, not a mechanical aether.
> > > > Ether is'nt mechanical, is simply the support of magnetic, electric
> > > > and gravitational fields.
> > > > May be the "dark matter" of modern physics...
> > > > ====================================
> > > > Santa isn’t human, he’s simply the delivery agent supported
> > > > by reindeer and the help of elves to make all the toys. Simple.
> > > > Maybe the dark angel of ancient idiocy. Simple.
> > > > > The ball with fly better
> > > > > without air, you can play squash in the cargo bay of the space
> > > > > shuttle under airless conditions, and so will light. Aether and
> > > > > relativity are nonsense.
> > > > > If you want to do something useful, measure the speed of radio
> > > > > waves in waveguides. Don’t take Einstein’s word for it, he was
> > > > > an idiot. It’ll be different to that of the speed of light and you’ll
> > > > > be the first to find it. And repeat at a different frequency.
> > > > Sorry, I pursue with my head.
> > > > ===========================
> > > > Pity your sorry head is full of aether with no brain. Tell
> > > > your aether story to the children. Over and out. Simple.
> > > > -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> > > > Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
> > > divertissement pour vous.
> > > OK.
> > All is explained in the video, (I'm subtitling in english). For you!
> > Please, how do you explaine the phase changes directing in space the
> > magic T? Santa Claus?
> > =====================================================
> > Yes. Instead of proving the aether exists when it doesn’t I’ve proved
> > Santa Claus exists, as you have now realised. All is explained under
> > the Xmas tree.
> > I have done a measure of "absolute speed" relative , 90° tilting the
> > T.
> > Do you know "sound anemometers" ? Well, I changed the sound with a
> > radiowave generated by a syntetized oscillator.
> > Change of phase say me the speed. Simple
> > Change of phase says to me no aether. Simple.
> > http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/AC.htm > > -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> > Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
> funny cartons! Ok, physics is Holliwoodian, to day. Phantascience...
> I pursue for my way. Old fashon...
> =========================================
> Casimiro’s fantasy physics:
> http://www.sfkids.org/uploadedImages/kid%20on%20swing.JPG
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
very nice baby! Yes, I have the same his optimism in the life...
What about the santa claus who changes the phase? It' the wavelength.
You also are childish!
> -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
very nice baby! Yes, I have the same his optimism in the life...
What about the santa claus who changes the phase? It' the wavelength.
You also are childish!
===========================================
Should I choose to make a case for Santa Claus who does not exist
to show he does because I believe he does, then I’d be as foolish
as you who makes a case for aether that does not exist who wishes
to show that it does because you believe it does. What makes you the child and me the adult is that my argument for Santa was merely
facetious, I do not actually believe it, whereas you are serious in your preposterous ignorance. Go away, little fool, I am done playing with you. You may have the last word, it will not be seen by me. *plonk*.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk_(Usenet)
> > -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
> > Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway
> very nice baby! Yes, I have the same his optimism in the life...
> What about the santa claus who changes the phase? It' the wavelength.
> You also are childish!
> ===========================================
> Should I choose to make a case for Santa Claus who does not exist
> to show he does because I believe he does, then I’d be as foolish
> as you who makes a case for aether that does not exist who wishes
> to show that it does because you believe it does. What makes you
> the child and me the adult is that my argument for Santa was merely
> facetious, I do not actually believe it, whereas you are serious in
> your preposterous ignorance. Go away, little fool, I am done
> playing with you. You may have the last word, it will not be
> seen by me. *plonk*.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk_(Usenet)
> On 5 Ott, 12:38, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On a sunny day (Thu, 4 Oct 2012 13:30:22 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
> > <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
> > <47a8b9cc-35fe-4702-b6c8-afcdc05df...@r9g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>:
> > >On 4 Ott, 21:50, Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 11:24:38 -0700 (PDT), Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >On 4 Ott, 20:20, Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote:
> > >> >> On 4 Ott, 20:15, Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> wrote:
> > >> >> > >Note: I discovered why the T is said "magic" : in detecting the FIRST
> > >> >> > >ORDER DOPPLER that Maxwell said "impossible" in the Earth. (but at his
> > >> >> > >times he did'nt know the radio waves, discovered eight years after his
> > >> >> > >death by Hertz)
> > >> >> I know it. But at 5 MHz he could'nt discover the anisotropy!
> > >> >I wrote to Cahill but he denies the anisotropy. He made experiments
> > >> >with coaxial cables long tens meters, or with light.
> > >> >With microwaves nobody made experiments of anisotropy. May be the
> > >> >inventor of magic T, for that he named it "magic"!
> > >> Where on the frequency scale does "microwave" start?
> > >> Is 1700 MHz sufficient?
> > >> Then there is the GPS System.
> > >> (Sleeping lions awake!)
> > >> w.
> > >It's indifferent what a frequency you choose. The measure is made
> > >inside a conducting box (Faraday screen) in a rigid coaxial cable, at
> > >various frequency. You have seen three magic tee interferometers
> > >operating on three frequency. The frequency is determinated by the
> > >null output, when the vectors are in quadrature. (Because the phase
> > >discriminator is in quadrature only at a determinated frequency.) This
> > >discriminator detects very little phase angles, as you see. The
> > >ether's wind I measured is easly computed because it acts directly on
> > >the wavelength, shortning or alonging if against or favorable the
> > >propagation's direction of the wave.
> > So, compute the speed of the ether wind,
> > and for your position north of the equator it should then vary in a 24 hour
> > sequence as you rotate in the earth orbit in the same, and then the opposite direction
> > every day night.
> > Assuming that variation is big enough to measure.
> > Leave it running for a week, show the paper tape...
> > Then for a year, as earth orbist sun...
> > Then for a ??? as earth and sun move .. spiral arms galaxy..
> > You need a lot of paper :-)
> I have yet done. I have hundreds and hundred chart recordings, made
> with various phase detectors. All have the nearly same slope ,
> different in seasons.
> I shall write a paper relation.
> On Oct 6, 1:58 am, Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote:
> > On 5 Ott, 12:38, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On a sunny day (Thu, 4 Oct 2012 13:30:22 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
> > > <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
> > > <47a8b9cc-35fe-4702-b6c8-afcdc05df...@r9g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>:
> > > >On 4 Ott, 21:50, Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> wrote:
> > > >> On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 11:24:38 -0700 (PDT), Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >On 4 Ott, 20:20, Casimiro <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote:
> > > >> >> On 4 Ott, 20:15, Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >Note: I discovered why the T is said "magic" : in detecting the FIRST
> > > >> >> > >ORDER DOPPLER that Maxwell said "impossible" in the Earth. (but at his
> > > >> >> > >times he did'nt know the radio waves, discovered eight years after his
> > > >> >> > >death by Hertz)
> > > >> >> I know it. But at 5 MHz he could'nt discover the anisotropy!
> > > >> >I wrote to Cahill but he denies the anisotropy. He made experiments
> > > >> >with coaxial cables long tens meters, or with light.
> > > >> >With microwaves nobody made experiments of anisotropy. May be the
> > > >> >inventor of magic T, for that he named it "magic"!
> > > >> Where on the frequency scale does "microwave" start?
> > > >> Is 1700 MHz sufficient?
> > > >> Then there is the GPS System.
> > > >> (Sleeping lions awake!)
> > > >> w.
> > > >It's indifferent what a frequency you choose. The measure is made
> > > >inside a conducting box (Faraday screen) in a rigid coaxial cable, at
> > > >various frequency. You have seen three magic tee interferometers
> > > >operating on three frequency. The frequency is determinated by the
> > > >null output, when the vectors are in quadrature. (Because the phase
> > > >discriminator is in quadrature only at a determinated frequency.) This
> > > >discriminator detects very little phase angles, as you see. The
> > > >ether's wind I measured is easly computed because it acts directly on
> > > >the wavelength, shortning or alonging if against or favorable the
> > > >propagation's direction of the wave.
> > > So, compute the speed of the ether wind,
> > > and for your position north of the equator it should then vary in a 24 hour
> > > sequence as you rotate in the earth orbit in the same, and then the opposite direction
> > > every day night.
> > > Assuming that variation is big enough to measure.
> > > Leave it running for a week, show the paper tape...
> > > Then for a year, as earth orbist sun...
> > > Then for a ??? as earth and sun move .. spiral arms galaxy..
> > > You need a lot of paper :-)
> > I have yet done. I have hundreds and hundred chart recordings, made
> > with various phase detectors. All have the nearly same slope ,
> > different in seasons.
> > I shall write a paper relation.
> I can't wait to read it.
Why only reed ? Principle can be uderstood by direct observation of
immages, not mediated by words. Written words are subject to retoric,
sophisms, formalisms...
I'm a simple technician and I prefer use instruments : They speak
clear directly to the brain.
On a sunny day (Sat, 6 Oct 2012 23:51:13 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
<fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
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> Why only reed ? Principle can be uderstood by direct observation of
>immages,
Does that make it REAL?
I downloaded it years ago, it really IS better than the real thing in some ways.
>t mediated by words. Written words are subject to retoric,
>sophisms, formalisms...
Any joe can buy photoshop, Adobe after effects, or whatever,
and I am pretty good at video processing, I WRITE the software for that.
What you see does not have to be what is real.
>I'm a simple technician and I prefer use instruments : They speak
>clear directly to the brain.
In that case you should REALLY triple check, check for errors,
make detailed diagrams and drawing, provide numbers,
materials used etc.
Just mimic Mr Data.
It is often a good thing to kill your own theories, or find
you made some mistake (makes one humble).
I am not saying you faked the video, or made a mistake,
but proof is always up to the one who challenges things.
Hell I can do your show with a simple potmeter connected to the rotating table.
Mr technician:-)
> On a sunny day (Sat, 6 Oct 2012 23:51:13 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
> <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
> <c8409e24-b7bc-4698-af3d-223ac6bc2...@d3g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>:
> > Why only reed ? Principle can be uderstood by direct observation of
> >immages,
> Does that make it REAL?
> I downloaded it years ago, it really IS better than the real thing in some ways.
> >t mediated by words. Written words are subject to retoric,
> >sophisms, formalisms...
> Any joe can buy photoshop, Adobe after effects, or whatever,
> and I am pretty good at video processing, I WRITE the software for that.
> What you see does not have to be what is real.
> >I'm a simple technician and I prefer use instruments : They speak
> >clear directly to the brain.
> In that case you should REALLY triple check, check for errors,
> make detailed diagrams and drawing, provide numbers,
> materials used etc.
> Just mimic Mr Data.
> It is often a good thing to kill your own theories, or find
> you made some mistake (makes one humble).
> I am not saying you faked the video, or made a mistake,
> but proof is always up to the one who challenges things.
> Hell I can do your show with a simple potmeter connected to the rotating table.
> Mr technician:-)
OK. I will write a pdf.
For your objection I'm thinking: may be...
I've not theory to defend. I'm an empiric without other interest that
verify if current theory is real.
For instance yesterday, at 9 p.m., I noted a very ample excursion of
phase, about 2 MHz!
The phenomenon is unknown. At today nobody measured what I'm
measuring...
I deduced that the "medium" is moving. Not at all as previewed
Maxwell, evidently.
On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Oct 2012 02:13:16 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
<fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
<99870d51-a729-4e4e-8fe8-6c9ef3cad...@bv9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>:
>For instance yesterday, at 9 p.m., I noted a very ample excursion of
>phase, about 2 MHz!
On 7 Ott, 12:20, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Oct 2012 02:13:16 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
> <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
> <99870d51-a729-4e4e-8fe8-6c9ef3cad...@bv9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>:
> >For instance yesterday, at 9 p.m., I noted a very ample excursion of
> >phase, about 2 MHz!
> But phase is measured in degrees, not MHz...
Excuse, I forget to say "apparent MHz": it's of how MHz I must change
the frequency of generator to obtain that phase.
I'm practic. May be too...(for this I agree with british empirism!).
On 7 Ott, 12:20, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Oct 2012 02:13:16 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
> <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
> <99870d51-a729-4e4e-8fe8-6c9ef3cad...@bv9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>:
> >For instance yesterday, at 9 p.m., I noted a very ample excursion of
> >phase, about 2 MHz!
On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Oct 2012 03:50:43 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
<fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
<b08a09a1-75ca-4387-adc9-b6bddeaf6...@u9g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>:
>On 7 Ott, 12:20, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Oct 2012 02:13:16 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
>> <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
>> <99870d51-a729-4e4e-8fe8-6c9ef3cad...@bv9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>:
>> >For instance yesterday, at 9 p.m., I noted a very ample excursion of
>> >phase, about 2 MHz!
>> But phase is measured in degrees, not MHz...
>Excuse, I forget to say "apparent MHz": it's of how MHz I must change
>the frequency of generator to obtain that phase.
>I'm practic. May be too...(for this I agree with british empirism!).
Yes, OK,
I am working with some GHz stuff myself, about 10 GHz (satellite),
and 1.575 GHz (GPS), and the sat IF frequencies, and PLLs.
I have little problem to make the frequencies you use,
but never tried a 'magic T'.
In a PLL based synthesizer, it almost looks as if your signal generator
PLL was knocked out of lock by perhaps some transient? Mains fluctuation?
Or is it some DDS chip based sort of design?
It would be cool if you could compare it somehow to the 1 575 420 000 Hz
GPS L1 carrier, but even then there is a Doppler effect.
But so far I have not noticed any directional effect in cables,
or dynamically moving cables, doing microwave in the open always has
a zillion reflection from all around though.
We once did a 10 GHz gun diode based transceiver, and IIRC even blinking
your eye caused Doppler effect, very sensitive.
I later build an audio (acoustic) Doppler system, it could also detect an eye
blinking.. Very simple thing actually made for old remote controls.
In my view it could be used to detect brain waves by detecting the muscle movements on the head.
And that was sound waves, also in the cm range, of course different from EM waves
as we then have air as medium, and some deny the existence of an ether as medium for EM waves,
and some believe in Santa, well, would it not be nice to hear them laughing a 10 thousand years from now
if they read all this, if humanity is still around.
Experimenting is fun, have a look at his for example:
http://www.panteltje.com/panteltje/lorentz/experiment.html But I got a null result, with limited sensitivity that is.
I found the Russians repeated it with better equipment and also got zero.
And now I am testing radioactive decay versus time, that experiment will run some more month.
I give up rather fast, for me, for the effect to be important or usable,
it will have to be big, if not then no practical use... at least not for me.
Your effect is very big, and that is a bit suspicious in itself.
If it was true it would open the gate to massless propulsion for example, actually the first thing that my brain came up with when reading your experiment is the claim someone
is making that a closed cavity of pyramid shape with a RF microwave source in it experiences a force one way.
It is on the web somewhere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EmDrive And I do not know if that claim is true either.
My microwave oven has not flown away yet.
Some time ago I bought some precision balances to do that sort of experiments, I have enough stuff to play with
for years to come.
> On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Oct 2012 03:50:43 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
> <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
> <b08a09a1-75ca-4387-adc9-b6bddeaf6...@u9g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>:
> >On 7 Ott, 12:20, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Oct 2012 02:13:16 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
> >> <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
> >> <99870d51-a729-4e4e-8fe8-6c9ef3cad...@bv9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>:
> >> >For instance yesterday, at 9 p.m., I noted a very ample excursion of
> >> >phase, about 2 MHz!
> >> But phase is measured in degrees, not MHz...
> >Excuse, I forget to say "apparent MHz": it's of how MHz I must change
> >the frequency of generator to obtain that phase.
> >I'm practic. May be too...(for this I agree with british empirism!).
> Yes, OK,
> I am working with some GHz stuff myself, about 10 GHz (satellite),
> and 1.575 GHz (GPS), and the sat IF frequencies, and PLLs.
> I have little problem to make the frequencies you use,
> but never tried a 'magic T'.
> In a PLL based synthesizer, it almost looks as if your signal generator
> PLL was knocked out of lock by perhaps some transient? Mains fluctuation?
> Or is it some DDS chip based sort of design?
> It would be cool if you could compare it somehow to the 1 575 420 000 Hz
> GPS L1 carrier, but even then there is a Doppler effect.
> But so far I have not noticed any directional effect in cables,
> or dynamically moving cables, doing microwave in the open always has
> a zillion reflection from all around though.
> We once did a 10 GHz gun diode based transceiver, and IIRC even blinking
> your eye caused Doppler effect, very sensitive.
> I later build an audio (acoustic) Doppler system, it could also detect an eye
> blinking.. Very simple thing actually made for old remote controls.
> In my view it could be used to detect brain waves by detecting the muscle movements on the head.
> And that was sound waves, also in the cm range, of course different from EM waves
> as we then have air as medium, and some deny the existence of an ether as medium for EM waves,
> and some believe in Santa, well, would it not be nice to hear them laughing a 10 thousand years from now
> if they read all this, if humanity is still around.
> Experimenting is fun, have a look at his for example:
> http://www.panteltje.com/panteltje/lorentz/experiment.html > But I got a null result, with limited sensitivity that is.
> I found the Russians repeated it with better equipment and also got zero.
> And now I am testing radioactive decay versus time, that experiment will run some more month.
> I give up rather fast, for me, for the effect to be important or usable,
> it will have to be big, if not then no practical use... at least not for me.
> Your effect is very big, and that is a bit suspicious in itself.
> If it was true it would open the gate to massless propulsion for example, actually the
> first thing that my brain came up with when reading your experiment is the claim someone
> is making that a closed cavity of pyramid shape with a RF microwave source in it experiences a force one way.
> It is on the web somewhere.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EmDrive > And I do not know if that claim is true either.
> My microwave oven has not flown away yet.
> Some time ago I bought some precision balances to do that sort of experiments, I have enough stuff to play with
> for years to come.
Thank you. I did'nt know that reaserch. Interesting. But... I used
coaxial cable! And don't believe in S.Einstein nor in S.Claus..
I'm satisfied of such discovery and invite others to repeat my
experiment. I don't pursue profit (I'm near the death! ...hoping later
of coarse!) and I don't search money at my age...
Only moral satisfaction, to penetrate a little more the again
inexplicable e.m. and gravitational fields.
I don't think as Einstein that Maxwell (better Heaviside!) are only
equations... I think that without the working hypothesis
these equation nevere and never could be written!
Applications? I don't know. I am simply repeting the old MMX with
radiowaves. Discovery would be amplified by multiplication of
experimenters.
Why not you? Let begin, please!
Is simple!
> On 7 Ott, 13:31, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Oct 2012 03:50:43 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
> > <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
> > <b08a09a1-75ca-4387-adc9-b6bddeaf6...@u9g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>:
> > >On 7 Ott, 12:20, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Oct 2012 02:13:16 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
> > >> <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
> > >> <99870d51-a729-4e4e-8fe8-6c9ef3cad...@bv9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>:
> > >> >For instance yesterday, at 9 p.m., I noted a very ample excursion of
> > >> >phase, about 2 MHz!
> > >> But phase is measured in degrees, not MHz...
> > >Excuse, I forget to say "apparent MHz": it's of how MHz I must change
> > >the frequency of generator to obtain that phase.
> > >I'm practic. May be too...(for this I agree with british empirism!).
> > Yes, OK,
> > I am working with some GHz stuff myself, about 10 GHz (satellite),
> > and 1.575 GHz (GPS), and the sat IF frequencies, and PLLs.
> > I have little problem to make the frequencies you use,
> > but never tried a 'magic T'.
> > In a PLL based synthesizer, it almost looks as if your signal generator
> > PLL was knocked out of lock by perhaps some transient? Mains fluctuation?
> > Or is it some DDS chip based sort of design?
> > It would be cool if you could compare it somehow to the 1 575 420 000 Hz
> > GPS L1 carrier, but even then there is a Doppler effect.
> > But so far I have not noticed any directional effect in cables,
> > or dynamically moving cables, doing microwave in the open always has
> > a zillion reflection from all around though.
> > We once did a 10 GHz gun diode based transceiver, and IIRC even blinking
> > your eye caused Doppler effect, very sensitive.
> > I later build an audio (acoustic) Doppler system, it could also detect an eye
> > blinking.. Very simple thing actually made for old remote controls.
> > In my view it could be used to detect brain waves by detecting the muscle movements on the head.
> > And that was sound waves, also in the cm range, of course different from EM waves
> > as we then have air as medium, and some deny the existence of an ether as medium for EM waves,
> > and some believe in Santa, well, would it not be nice to hear them laughing a 10 thousand years from now
> > if they read all this, if humanity is still around.
> > Experimenting is fun, have a look at his for example:
> > http://www.panteltje.com/panteltje/lorentz/experiment.html > > But I got a null result, with limited sensitivity that is.
> > I found the Russians repeated it with better equipment and also got zero.
> > And now I am testing radioactive decay versus time, that experiment will run some more month.
> > I give up rather fast, for me, for the effect to be important or usable,
> > it will have to be big, if not then no practical use... at least not for me.
> > Your effect is very big, and that is a bit suspicious in itself.
> > If it was true it would open the gate to massless propulsion for example, actually the
> > first thing that my brain came up with when reading your experiment is the claim someone
> > is making that a closed cavity of pyramid shape with a RF microwave source in it experiences a force one way.
> > It is on the web somewhere.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EmDrive > > And I do not know if that claim is true either.
> > My microwave oven has not flown away yet.
> > Some time ago I bought some precision balances to do that sort of experiments, I have enough stuff to play with
> > for years to come.
> Thank you. I did'nt know that reaserch. Interesting. But... I used
> coaxial cable! And don't believe in S.Einstein nor in S.Claus..
> I'm satisfied of such discovery and invite others to repeat my
> experiment. I don't pursue profit (I'm near the death! ...hoping later
> of coarse!) and I don't search money at my age...
> Only moral satisfaction, to penetrate a little more the again
> inexplicable e.m. and gravitational fields.
> I don't think as Einstein that Maxwell (better Heaviside!) are only
> equations... I think that without the working hypothesis
> these equation nevere and never could be written!
> Applications? I don't know. I am simply repeting the old MMX with
> radiowaves. Discovery would be amplified by multiplication of
> experimenters.
> Why not you? Let begin, please!
> Is simple!
I forget "working hypothesis of ETHER", of coarse!
On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:41:50 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
<fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
<89b795c3-e3a8-4382-a3f4-e764e36e7...@q4g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>:
>Thank you. I did'nt know that reaserch. Interesting. But... I used
>coaxial cable! And don't believe in S.Einstein nor in S.Claus..
>I'm satisfied of such discovery and invite others to repeat my
>experiment. I don't pursue profit (I'm near the death! ...hoping later
>of coarse!) and I don't search money at my age...
>Only moral satisfaction, to penetrate a little more the again
>inexplicable e.m. and gravitational fields.
>I don't think as Einstein that Maxwell (better Heaviside!) are only
>equations... I think that without the working hypothesis
>these equation nevere and never could be written!
>Applications? I don't know. I am simply repeting the old MMX with
>radiowaves. Discovery would be amplified by multiplication of
>experimenters.
>Why not you? Let begin, please!
>Is simple!
So, we are waiting for your detailed English language paper, and your measurements, diagrams, materials used, equipment specifications, equipment test and cross testing on other equipment
(2 experiments run simultaneously should give the same data), etc etc.
Error bars, logged data over days weeks years, centuries LOL.
As to Einstein, of course it is a mistake to replace any 'mechanism' with a math.
Ultimately the equations we use are always only an approximation of reality.
It is up to us to understand reality in a form where we can visualize what happens,
There are plenty of GR parrots scribbling equations, usually with thy wrong answer (LIGO),
as without visualizing what happens you can never get a clue from incomplete equations.
Doing math is so much simpler, it can even be done by a computah.
Einstein never did an experiment in his whole life I think.
The application of math to reality is a different thing altogether.
Without a picture of a mechanism it is easy to get stuck in a wormhole or get squeezed in a singularity.
While anybody who ever did any experiment knows there are no infinities in nature,
something will always give way. there are infinities in math however,
but math is just a construct in a subset of neurons in our brain, just a few actually.
The neural net we are, cosmically aware at some level I am sure,
past present and future, with the present as a cross flow of streams from past and future.
I think it was Feynman that stated that anti-particles can mathematically be described as a normal particles
moving backward in time.
So we are then always in a cross-stream of future and past, and know both future and past if connected.
See were math takes you?
This sort of 'easy' explanations is very dangerous, and need not be true in any way, but may well be true to some extends
or even completely.
We have a lot to learn, and even hundred years ago we could not fly, now we have been on the moon
and have toys on mars, and a toy leaving the solar system.
100 years, on how long has humanity been around? millions
since the apes... it seems human advancement goes in stages,
fire, iron, .... electricity..
If we do not go extinct for some reason (big comet coming) maybe a couple of thousand years to the the stage.
Of course aping, society, and our 'teaching' system is a huge break on advancement.
Maybe the next nuke war will do away with some stubbornness, create more random mutations due to radiation,
with the occasional super clever ape taking us a step further, or a thousand years
of knowledge and science lost, only to be dug up by archaeologists of a new species 'hey those humans did things with silicon',
and then they argue how it came we could do all that. history repeating itself.
> On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:41:50 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
> <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
> <89b795c3-e3a8-4382-a3f4-e764e36e7...@q4g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>:
> >Thank you. I did'nt know that reaserch. Interesting. But... I used
> >coaxial cable! And don't believe in S.Einstein nor in S.Claus..
> >I'm satisfied of such discovery and invite others to repeat my
> >experiment. I don't pursue profit (I'm near the death! ...hoping later
> >of coarse!) and I don't search money at my age...
> >Only moral satisfaction, to penetrate a little more the again
> >inexplicable e.m. and gravitational fields.
> >I don't think as Einstein that Maxwell (better Heaviside!) are only
> >equations... I think that without the working hypothesis
> >these equation nevere and never could be written!
> >Applications? I don't know. I am simply repeting the old MMX with
> >radiowaves. Discovery would be amplified by multiplication of
> >experimenters.
> >Why not you? Let begin, please!
> >Is simple!
> So, we are waiting for your detailed English language paper, and your measurements, diagrams,
> materials used, equipment specifications, equipment test and cross testing on other equipment
> (2 experiments run simultaneously should give the same data), etc etc.
> Error bars, logged data over days weeks years, centuries LOL.
> As to Einstein, of course it is a mistake to replace any 'mechanism' with a math.
> Ultimately the equations we use are always only an approximation of reality.
> It is up to us to understand reality in a form where we can visualize what happens,
> There are plenty of GR parrots scribbling equations, usually with thy wrong answer (LIGO),
> as without visualizing what happens you can never get a clue from incomplete equations.
> Doing math is so much simpler, it can even be done by a computah.
> Einstein never did an experiment in his whole life I think.
> The application of math to reality is a different thing altogether.
> Without a picture of a mechanism it is easy to get stuck in a wormhole or get squeezed in a singularity.
> While anybody who ever did any experiment knows there are no infinities in nature,
> something will always give way. there are infinities in math however,
> but math is just a construct in a subset of neurons in our brain, just a few actually.
> The neural net we are, cosmically aware at some level I am sure,
> past present and future, with the present as a cross flow of streams from past and future.
> I think it was Feynman that stated that anti-particles can mathematically be described as a normal particles
> moving backward in time.
> So we are then always in a cross-stream of future and past, and know both future and past if connected.
> See were math takes you?
> This sort of 'easy' explanations is very dangerous, and need not be true in any way, but may well be true to some extends
> or even completely.
> We have a lot to learn, and even hundred years ago we could not fly, now we have been on the moon
> and have toys on mars, and a toy leaving the solar system.
> 100 years, on how long has humanity been around? millions
> since the apes... it seems human advancement goes in stages,
> fire, iron, .... electricity..
> If we do not go extinct for some reason (big comet coming) maybe a couple of thousand years to the the stage.
> Of course aping, society, and our 'teaching' system is a huge break on advancement.
> Maybe the next nuke war will do away with some stubbornness, create more random mutations due to radiation,
> with the occasional super clever ape taking us a step further, or a thousand years
> of knowledge and science lost, only to be dug up by archaeologists of a new species 'hey those humans did things with silicon',
> and then they argue how it came we could do all that. history repeating itself.
Thank you. You write deeply, think and work . Old fashon, as me.
Young people, as that lord android, I dubt that he is able to make
something. Only fictions. Served with differentials. But very well
made!
He think he is the prophet who come to reveal to poor minded the
truth... his cartoon, with self citation of his own principles, higher
than Maxwell one ... But I dubt that he has understood something.
I do wait the queue...
Too little people is also in thi site. My video was visited by a ten
persons only. So I don't know where expose my discoveries...
The death... sister Death may visit us every nught, my dear. May be
all should be ignored. Amen.
On a sunny day (Mon, 8 Oct 2012 05:47:07 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
<fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
<605b7e49-b897-4e54-8880-3a2192d7e...@c20g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>:
>The death... sister Death may visit us every nught, my dear. May be
>all should be ignored. Amen.
As to your experiment,
and microwave reflections.
Did you try with the magic T fixed in a closed metal box, and then rotating that box?
It would not surprise me a bit of the arms of the T were radiation / receiving,
and then any reflections from walls etc etc would change if you turned it,
and cause a different level at the detector.
Just like radar...
On 8 Ott, 14:58, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a sunny day (Mon, 8 Oct 2012 05:47:07 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
> <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
> <605b7e49-b897-4e54-8880-3a2192d7e...@c20g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>:
> >The death... sister Death may visit us every nught, my dear. May be
> >all should be ignored. Amen.
> As to your experiment,
> and microwave reflections.
> Did you try with the magic T fixed in a closed metal box, and then rotating that box?
> It would not surprise me a bit of the arms of the T were radiation / receiving,
> and then any reflections from walls etc etc would change if you turned it,
> and cause a different level at the detector.
> Just like radar...
You must see attently my video: the lagit tee is closed in a metallic
box soldered accurately.
This night I weaked and wrotten the preface of my relation. You can
reed here:
http://www.2shared.com/document/xN_G7Vt-/preface.html
On a sunny day (Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:21:51 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
<fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
<c509ded3-7d99-4680-b7f1-2b2a8148f...@j12g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>:
>On 8 Ott, 14:58, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Mon, 8 Oct 2012 05:47:07 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
>> <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
>> <605b7e49-b897-4e54-8880-3a2192d7e...@c20g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>:
>> >The death... sister Death may visit us every nught, my dear. May be
>> >all should be ignored. Amen.
>> As to your experiment,
>> and microwave reflections.
>> Did you try with the magic T fixed in a closed metal box, and then rotating that box?
>> It would not surprise me a bit of the arms of the T were radiation / receiving,
>> and then any reflections from walls etc etc would change if you turned it,
>> and cause a different level at the detector.
>> Just like radar...
>You must see attently my video: the lagit tee is closed in a metallic
>box soldered accurately.
>This night I weaked and wrotten the preface of my relation. You can
>reed here:
>http://www.2shared.com/document/xN_G7Vt-/preface.html
That is a very nice intro.
I want to think for a while about your results before making some stupid remark perhaps :-)
Does not putting metal containg thermal insulation foil affect the impedances on that PCB?
> On a sunny day (Mon, 8 Oct 2012 10:21:51 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
> <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
> <c509ded3-7d99-4680-b7f1-2b2a8148f...@j12g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>:
> >On 8 Ott, 14:58, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On a sunny day (Mon, 8 Oct 2012 05:47:07 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Casimiro
> >> <fa.mo...@yahoo.it> wrote in
> >> <605b7e49-b897-4e54-8880-3a2192d7e...@c20g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>:
> >> >The death... sister Death may visit us every nught, my dear. May be
> >> >all should be ignored. Amen.
> >> As to your experiment,
> >> and microwave reflections.
> >> Did you try with the magic T fixed in a closed metal box, and then rotating that box?
> >> It would not surprise me a bit of the arms of the T were radiation / receiving,
> >> and then any reflections from walls etc etc would change if you turned it,
> >> and cause a different level at the detector.
> >> Just like radar...
> >You must see attently my video: the lagit tee is closed in a metallic
> >box soldered accurately.
> >This night I weaked and wrotten the preface of my relation. You can
> >reed here:
> >http://www.2shared.com/document/xN_G7Vt-/preface.html
> That is a very nice intro.
> I want to think for a while about your results before making some stupid remark perhaps :-)
> Does not putting metal containg thermal insulation foil affect the impedances on that PCB?
