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Robert M. Stockmann

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Feb 23, 2008, 2:48:51 PM2/23/08
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Dark Matter, a result of the heliocentric doctrine
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http://crashrecovery.org/fixedearth/

Cloak and Dagger ran the following banner:

.... Marshall McLuhan suspected that "secret societies" and "secret
doctrines" associated with gnosticism, Rosicrucianism, and Masonry
persisted among the highest elites in the twentieth century. REFERENCE:
"Last year has been spent in going through rituals of secret societies
with fine comb. As I said before I'm in a bloody rage at the discovery
that the arts and sciences are in the pockets of these societies." wrote
Marshall McLuhan in The Letters Of Marshall McLuhan.....///


"The Earth is not moving" is a astounding scholarly work debunking the
BIGGEST DECEPTION laid upon the grand public by the Science Establishment
ever. What Deception? The Heliocentric system turns out to be a fabricated
model of our planetary system, which started around the year 1600, whilest
the King James Bible was getting translated. Marshall Hall starts of by
mentioning that all NASA calculations which should deliver the highest
accuracy are based on a non-moving earth!! Interesting enough while the
King James Bible 1611 was written in English all the key works of
Astronomy were published in ... Latin.


Nicolaus Copernicus
a Polish astronomer born in 1473 and dies in 1543 on the same day when his
newly published book "De revolutionibus orbium coelestium" (On the
Revolutions of the Heavenly Spheres) was finished and put in his hands.

Johannes Kepler
Assistant of Tycho Brahe, the Danisch Astronomer who archived the most
accurate astronomical observational data at the time. Brahe the Dean
Astronomer dies of food poisoning in 1601... Kepler inherits all of
Brahe's data and subsequently publishes Kepler's Laws in "Astronomia nova"
(1609) and "Harmonices Mundi" (1619).

Sir Isaac Newton
published his three laws of motion inside "Philosophiae Naturalis
Principia Mathematica", resulting in classical mechanics and was both a
Illuminist and Alchemist.

Albert Einstein
Highly interested in the Theosophical aspects of physics. Advises fellow
physicists to get a copy of H. P. Blavatsky's "Secret Doctrine" and keep
it on their desks.

for a discussion of "The Earth is not Moving" [1] visit the thread :

"Dark Matter, a result of the heliocentric doctrine"
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4916

or read a local (read-only) copy of the above thread here :
"Dark Matter, a result of the heliocentric doctrine"
http://crashrecovery.org/fixedearth/davidicke/showthread1.php
http://crashrecovery.org/fixedearth/davidicke/showthread2.php
http://crashrecovery.org/fixedearth/davidicke/showthread3.php

Today many physicists have funded doubts about things like
repeatability in gathering physics measurement results, in patterns of
prime numbers and inside todays scientific survey of the galaxies. With
such astounding patterns and beauty in our surroundings on all scales
from atomic, micro biology, snow flakes, nature and in space, todays
atheists and accompanying scientific establishment view on this, is
starting to look like that of science being deliberately buried in vague
theories like "dark matter", "the big bang", "Darwinism" and as such
resulting in the "capstone" philosophy of Humanism.

These views are unsatisfactory regarding the hard facts and physics
measurement results which clearly point time over time into a different
direction where to search for a more logical explanation.

Much of todays established scientific view on the universe is based on
the work of Albert Einstein. But it is precisely his work, the Relativity
theories, which today have embarked in complicated phenomena like, dark
matter, black holes, Big Bang theories and much alike. Phenomena which
are very hard to measure and are not backed up with scientific evidence.
Moreover, the mathematical models which describe our universe can only
survive by making such phenomena a mandatory add on. The word
repeatability in this context has become a forgotten concept. Physics has
become a insider only discipline where things like string theory have
degraded it into a exotic math only cult.

Only a year ago I wrote the following to a radio show host who had
brought up some doubts around the work of Einstein :

"I am a graduated physicist myself, and have never found any reasons or
leads which could raise the slightest doubt over the physics publications
by Albert Einstein. The fact that he was a Jew has nothing to do with his
work as a physicist."

But here's where i recently have changed 180 degrees in opinion. Mounting
evidence has shown up which allows the conclusion that Einstein, the Bern
patent office clerk, was hired to white wash the Physics and Science
establishment...

Albert Einstein, a Zionist no doubt, was highly awarded for his
Relativity theories because he gave the scientific community of our
Masonic/Illuminati elitist rulership a very brilliant way out of a very
nasty problem which was posed during the 1890's and early 1900's. The
Michelson Morrison experiment which could measure the speed of the aether
using light rays and some mirrors turned out to become a total nightmare
for the scientific priesthood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson-Morley_experiment

The Michelson Morrison experiments, carried out all across the globe
proved one thing without a shatter of a doubt : the speed of the aether
on our planet earth was zero, ALL in coexistence with numerous Bible
verses which state that The Earth Is Motionless and is at the center of
our geocentric planetary system, where the sun and moon are rotating
around the earth and not like the heliocentric system which Copernicus,
Kepler, Newton, Galileo and last but not least Einstein successfully have
foisted upon the worlds.

Why did Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, Galileo and Einstein foist this
heliocentric deception into mainstream science? Very simple, because they
then as atheists (or even canaanites?) have discredited the Bible with
its geocentric system on page zero, and next have a easy task promoting
Darwinism, Humanism, The Big Bang etc.

"The Earth is not Moving" by Marshall Hall unfolds a new view on our
planet earth and its planetary system. It won't change our real world and
planetary system. The only thing the book does is prove that the
heliocentric model (the Copernicus/Kepler model where the earth rotates
around its axis in 24 hours and rotates around the sun in 365 days) is a
carefully crafted HOAX interpretation. The book claims with a shatter of
a doubt that the earth does NOT rotate around its axis, in fact it stands
still.

To interprete our view and collected data from the Universe, one needs to
know its reference point, i.e. the position, speed, orbit and axis
rotation speed of the earth. Marshall Hall simply claims proof that the
earth has no rotation around its axis. Next he observed that NASA uses a
non-moving earth (no orbit and no rotation) inside its modeling to
calculate the most precise data for envoy missions to the moon and mars.

Its likewise not very difficult to see that if the earth does not move or
rotate, the mathematics equations of the Relativity theories would simply
become void, as the concept of Relativity becomes void, when explaining
our measurement results from the Universe as collected here on planet
earth......

What Einstein deliberately did was to NEVER question the validity of the
Copernicus/Kepler planetary model, i.e. moving and rotating earth. In
fact Einstein and the Physics elite made carefully sure this question was
never asked or published! But he was bold and brave enough to a) define a
constant speed of light independent of ANY physical conditions, b) remove
the concept of aether when it concerns light waves/particles . These two
hypothetical starting points were never questioned by the Physics science
establishment, despite the fact that the Maxwell's Equations could only
work if there was a aether for light/electricity. Rest assure to mention
that the Maxwell Equations are the ones most used inside Applied Physics
and even Applied Science!

The Physics elite went even sofar to support Einstein by accepting him to
turn around the interpretation of the Michaelson Morley experiment. That
is, brainwash the public that the speed of light is constant by design
(We tell you so!) Why? Because Albert Einstein also declared as given
fact that there is no such thing as aether for light waves, which was
also accepted by the Physics elites with no questions asked.

In fact, if you carefully look at 20th century Physics books, there is
never ever a question posed which allows the possibility that the earth
could simply be standing still, hence bypassing the most straightforward
explanation of the Michaelson Morley experiments (the aether speed on
earth is zero), and never ever even mention or hinting such a thing.

Strangely enough somewhere in the 1920's Einstein suddenly sees some
possible trouble, and quickly mentions that the concept of aether for
light waves (or particles) cannot simply be abandoned, as then the
Maxwell Equations would fall apart. What then follows are most
complicated mathematical theories to explain more fine detailed phenomena
in outer space, whilest silently sticking to the Copernicus/Kepler
heliocentric system as starting point and never write science
publications which could hint readers to the geocentric model.

My question is very simple: was the Michaelson Morley experiment, which
measures the speed of the aether, ever carried out on a fast moving
Space-shuttle??

Robert
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Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
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Jim Black

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Feb 23, 2008, 3:46:54 PM2/23/08
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:48:51 +0100, Robert M. Stockmann wrote:

[...]

> The Michelson Morrison experiments, carried out all across the globe
> proved one thing without a shatter of a doubt : the speed of the aether
> on our planet earth was zero, ALL in coexistence with numerous Bible
> verses which state that The Earth Is Motionless and is at the center of
> our geocentric planetary system, where the sun and moon are rotating
> around the earth and not like the heliocentric system which Copernicus,
> Kepler, Newton, Galileo and last but not least Einstein successfully have
> foisted upon the worlds.

[...]

> My question is very simple: was the Michaelson Morley experiment, which
> measures the speed of the aether, ever carried out on a fast moving
> Space-shuttle??

Now we know who to blame when LISA gets cancelled. Damn you, Cabal!
(TINC)

--
Jim E. Black (domain in headers)
How to filter out stupid arguments in 40tude Dialog:
!markread,ignore From "Name" +"<email address>"
[X] Watch/Ignore works on subthreads

John Baker

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Feb 23, 2008, 5:07:37 PM2/23/08
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:48:51 +0100, "Robert M. Stockmann"
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<idiocy snipped>

Skippy, I couldn't really tell from your post whether you're just
reporting on something or if you actually believe this horseshit, but
I'll tell you one thing. If you actually do believe it, you're *way*
too fucking stupid to be a 'UNIX specialist'.

Mark K. Bilbo

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Feb 23, 2008, 5:28:53 PM2/23/08
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:48:51 +0100 in
pan.2008.02.23....@stokkie.net, "Robert M. Stockmann"
<st...@stokkie.net> wrote:

> "The Earth is not moving" is a astounding...

...collection of kookery...

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Using the bible as a moral guide is like tearing up a map
into 1000 pieces and using it to navigate." -- Paul Fellows

Sam Wormley

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Feb 23, 2008, 5:44:15 PM2/23/08
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Robert M. Stockmann wrote:
>
> "The Earth is not moving" is a astounding scholarly work debunking the
> BIGGEST DECEPTION laid upon the grand public by the Science Establishment
> ever.

Proof that the Earth goes around the Sun
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/FoucaultPendulum.html
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/StellarAberration.html

Robert M. Stockmann

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Feb 23, 2008, 9:06:02 PM2/23/08
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:44:15 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote:

> Robert M. Stockmann wrote:
>>
>> "The Earth is not moving" is a astounding scholarly work debunking the
>> BIGGEST DECEPTION laid upon the grand public by the Science Establishment
>> ever.
>
> Proof that the Earth goes around the Sun
> http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/FoucaultPendulum.html

Ok it will prove that the Earth rotates :

Stong, C. L. "The Amateur Scientist: How to Make a Pendulum That Will
Demonstrate the Rotation of the Earth." Sci. Amer. 198, 115-124, Jun. 1958.

Should the effect not be observed with any pendulum, and not just a
Foucault [tm] edition? Besides, many claim the corriolis force is just a
slight aberation. But remember that if you are in the Western hemisphere,
at a lattitude of e.g. 45o one obviously has an effective rotational
radius of 6,356.750 km * sin 45o = 6,356.750 * 0.707 = 4494.22 km. This
radius results in a rotational velocity of :

Rotation speed = 4494.22 km * 2 * pi / 24 hour = 1176.58 km/hour

That's beyond MACH 1 velocity my friend. You would then have some very
nasty problems talking to each other, and better gear up in a flight suit.

Androcles

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I've heard some weirdos in my time but you are totally fuckin' crazy.
*plonk*


Robert M. Stockmann

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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:19:41 +0000, Androcles wrote:

>
> "Robert M. Stockmann" <st...@stokkie.net> wrote in message
> news:pan.2008.02.24....@stokkie.net...
> | On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:44:15 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote:
> |
> | > Robert M. Stockmann wrote:
> | >>
> | >> "The Earth is not moving" is a astounding scholarly work debunking the
> | >> BIGGEST DECEPTION laid upon the grand public by the Science
> Establishment
> | >> ever.
> | >
> | > Proof that the Earth goes around the Sun
> | > http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/FoucaultPendulum.html
> |
> | Ok it will prove that the Earth rotates :
> |
> | Stong, C. L. "The Amateur Scientist: How to Make a Pendulum That Will
> | Demonstrate the Rotation of the Earth." Sci. Amer. 198, 115-124, Jun.
> 1958.
> |
> | Should the effect not be observed with any pendulum, and not just a
> | Foucault [tm] edition? Besides, many claim the corriolis force is just a
> | slight aberation. But remember that if you are in the Western hemisphere,
> | at a lattitude of e.g. 45o one obviously has an effective rotational
> | radius of 6,356.750 km * sin 45o = 6,356.750 * 0.707 = 4494.22 km. This
> | radius results in a rotational velocity of :
> |
> | Rotation speed = 4494.22 km * 2 * pi / 24 hour = 1176.58 km/hour
> |
> | That's beyond MACH 1 velocity my friend. You would then have some very
> | nasty problems talking to each other, and better gear up in a flight suit.
> |
>

> I've heard some weirdos in my time but you are totally fuckin' crazy.
> *plonk*

Well obviously we are continiously rotating with a radial rotation speed
of 1176.58 km/hour at latitude 45o. How can it be that sometimes with good
weather its total wind still and we can hear someone whisper from a
distance of 25 meters or more?

gb

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Feb 23, 2008, 9:58:09 PM2/23/08
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Dark matter,

Polarization of gravity to a lower dimension (2D), found 99 percent in
Spiral Galaxies that do that.

Good night.

From Master. Work still in the making.

www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index.htm (Mad Planet 2084)

Michael Gray

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Feb 23, 2008, 11:07:07 PM2/23/08
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Fucking kook alert!

Christopher A. Lee

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Feb 23, 2008, 11:32:52 PM2/23/08
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:37:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<mike...@newsguy.com> wrote:

>Fucking kook alert!

Not interested in fuvking kooks.

Christopher A. Lee

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Feb 23, 2008, 11:38:39 PM2/23/08
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Or even fuccking them.

Sam Wormley

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Feb 23, 2008, 11:52:58 PM2/23/08
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No... the air rotates with the earth... I have it on good authority
that people can talk to each other just fine no matter where the are
on the rotating earth. Ask your friends... you'll see.


Michael Gray

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Feb 24, 2008, 1:22:34 AM2/24/08
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Which ward are you in?

Michael Gray

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Feb 24, 2008, 1:23:19 AM2/24/08
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:38:39 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<ca...@optonline.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:32:52 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
><ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:37:07 +1030, Michael Gray
>><mike...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Fucking kook alert!
>>
>>Not interested in fuvking kooks.
>
>Or even fuccking them.

So that's the Finniish of it then, eh?

gb

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Just speculate: It was found that dark matter was found only in the
vicinity of spiral galaxies, not in quiet galaxies that do not rotate
on a disk. Second study forces of polarization of energies to lower
dimensions. Second: Does weight of a galaxy that corresponds with 9
times the visible mass a result of simple alignment to a 2D disk and
forces combine and rise as that, transform from 3D gravity to 2D
power, or is it because of a swirling characteristics of a galaxy
where a swirling system like a hurricane tends to gain much more power
from turning on itself and feeding on it's own energy, thus dark
matter is Power as that, and gravity directly relates to Power. That
means that the sum energy is the mass of a system and power is the one
that also adds to energy which transforms to mass, narrowed to 2D
where it all accelerates, but also may gain extra energy from a
polarized energy form. We have two strong clues: spiral galaxies and
that dark matter is a thing that relates to power and spiral galaxies
have more power as a swirling system. Swirling systems as hurricanes
build power, but we don't know how to calculate power in respect to
gravity, since gravity is a force. Or let's say calculating power over
mass. To solve this is like having the skills of Einstein. What
derives from power is inertia, force. What I propose is power directly
relates to mass, with or without matter. This means inertia, force
directly relates to mass, with or without matter. We only know such
physics that binds inertia, force which is mass to matter. Dark matter
is unbinded energy, which is seen when two galaxies collapse and
matter tangles, dark matter moves on unbindedly. That is known.
Unbinded energy which surrounds a spiral galaxy. This energy does
what? It acts as an energy force, as that tightens the galaxy. It is
known that a spiral galaxy without the unbinded energy of dark matter
would fly apart. Mass itself is not sufficient to hold a spiral galaxy
together. Dark matter may be matter, but not likely as after the
collapse of galaxies dark matter moves away from the crash while
matter does not. I have once calculated weird shit and realized that
this can only happen if dark matter is much faster than the speed of
light. All matter stays, dark matter moves on as a ghost toward the
same heading after the crash, as if space was stirred up and that
stirred up energy moves on after a crash. This energy field does not
behave like matter, and it is pure power. Where there is power, things
move faster than they would.

Power is gravity. Dark matter comes with gravity and with power to
bind a galaxy together stronger. Power is strength. Dark matter is not
binded energy, yet it binds and with that concentrates energy or
accelerates. It just builds up as a forcefield of motion in a galactic
disk, attributing more power to a swirling system, a pure sub-
derivative of a swirling system that feeds on it's own energies and
forces magnify as magnitude, including inertia. Magnitude with mass.
We have a polarized disk that as polarized has a magnitude (of power)
which corresponds to added mass readings, but added mass does just
that, pulls things closer. The fact that elliptic galaxies don't have
dark matter or very slight reading of it demonstrates that dark matter
is not matter but an element of forces and power, a force that builds
with swirling inertia, a force that accelerates, meaning where it
exists things move faster, but it itself has a mass. If it accelerate
it is an inertive force. The presence of gravity does not accelerate
say in the orbit of the Moon. Let's say dark matter is an inertive
force that carries an acceleration force. It is also known that most
objects in a spiral galaxy move with simiar speeds.

An inertive force may force a speed everywhere in a spiral galaxy. A
speed that exists throughout in a system that gained magnitude, power.
Imagine a hurricane. Should it not move in a region. Every region of a
spiral galaxy moves, and the greater the magnitude, power of a
hurricane, the faster the overall motion everywhere. A magnitude of
force exists, guiding the power of the system. In a spiral galaxy we
find a guiding of power (magnitude of force), dark matter itself. Thus
defined as magnitude of force, dark matter: an accelerated field of
energy. Magnitude of force exists everywhere in space, but rises in
spiral galaxies. A binding energy field after all. After all, binding
energy in atoms comes with mass. Binding energy polarizes in spiral
galaxies, and that attributes to faster speed in the cost of more
mass. This mass encapsulates energy, which in turn can possibly turn
into more matter through mechanisms we don't know.

A polarized spiral galaxy gains energy and power reflected by mass.
That's the result.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 1:43:13 AM2/24/08
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On Feb 23, 11:22 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:58:09 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Dark matter,
>
> >Polarization of gravity to a lower dimension (2D), found 99 percent in
> >Spiral Galaxies that do that.
>
> >Good night.
>
> >From Master. Work still in the making.
>
> >www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index.htm(Mad Planet 2084)

>
> Which ward are you in?

Obama says: Refresh! No, that's change. Refresh is good for the USA.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 1:54:30 AM2/24/08
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On Feb 23, 11:43 pm, gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 23, 11:22 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:58:09 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >Dark matter,
>
> > >Polarization of gravity to a lower dimension (2D), found 99 percent in
> > >Spiral Galaxies that do that.
>
> > >Good night.
>
> > >From Master. Work still in the making.
>
> > >www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index.htm(MadPlanet 2084)

>
> > Which ward are you in?
>
> Obama says: Refresh! No, that's change. Refresh is good for the USA.

I am the giant beacon man, reflecting on radical fundamentalism,
exofascistic humanity
today in the writing a classic form. Humanity responded to supremacist
forms
of People's Capitalism feeling more powerful and more blinded in
racist intolerance
and fascism and discriminative blind terror. Fuck you looser. New
Direction, chopped
freeze American. Hide basically back to your coward policy and
totalitarianist fascist
brain washington pervasive government of Soviet-Afghan wars leaving a
million dead,
but refusing cowardly all humanitarian stances and instead serve big
brother, what
else of cowardly dominance and psychological policy of being,
brainless, disguised
under a curtain.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:01:39 AM2/24/08
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I also consider myself a Spencerian ordinaire in my world, but that is
something you will never understand wall person.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:04:19 AM2/24/08
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> Fucking kook alert!

Oh yeah, I responded to you. Tarnish tavarish PPPC, tarnish brain
washington, suck your Booglebush, suck Google and tarnish more radical
protocol, and live the dreams of Bush.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:08:13 AM2/24/08
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Fokking them. Yo Tony Brain Washington. How's the fokkin curtain.
How's the cold rogue politics goin online, no fokkin enough of taking
care of the valneurable, who the fokkin cares, as long as Hitler is in
power and you can molest da jew. Fokkin radical fonds, fokking curtain
of blind terror. You fokkin be the boss Tony, they are not even worth
a brain cell, right Tony? Fokkin Tony. Neo brain politics.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:08:56 AM2/24/08
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Finnish them off, online, blind terror freedom USA.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:11:48 AM2/24/08
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> > <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
> > >On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:32:52 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
> > ><ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > >>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:37:07 +1030, Michael Gray
> > >><mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>Fucking kook alert!
>
> > >>Not interested in fuvking kooks.
>
> > >Or even fuccking them.
>
> > So that's the Finniish of it then, eh?
>
> Finnish them off, online, blind terror freedom USA.

Fokkin tarnish Gray, tavarnish, teach em a lesson, just like the
fokkin
regime, Japan, dropping the nukes on them, even though Japan lost
the war, the CIA knew it, the Japanese emperor was sending messages
to the US that Japan is ready to surrender, teach em a lesson on who
is the boss. Fokkin Hitler era, fokkin fokkin fokkin. Fokkin tarnish,
radical extreme, radical fundamentalism tavarnish teach em a lesson.
Go Bush, fokkin! Finish them off!

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:13:33 AM2/24/08
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> > > >>>Fucking kook alert!
>
> > > >>Not interested in fuvking kooks.
>
> > > >Or even fuccking them.
>
> > > So that's the Finniish of it then, eh?
>
> > Finnish them off, online, blind terror freedom USA.
>
> Fokkin tarnish Gray, tavarnish, teach em a lesson, just like the
> fokkin
> regime, Japan, dropping the nukes on them, even though Japan lost
> the war, the CIA knew it, the Japanese emperor was sending messages
> to the US that Japan is ready to surrender, teach em a lesson on who
> is the boss. Fokkin Hitler era, fokkin fokkin fokkin. Fokkin tarnish,
> radical extreme, radical fundamentalism tavarnish teach em a lesson.
> Go Bush, fokkin! Finish them off!

Who the fock are you? Don't mess with Bush!

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:20:49 AM2/24/08
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Wos there a Sommer when you ever wondered what the wall is? How the
East and West divides, how some people become wall people? I am
exofascist humanity to you, I am part Spencer Ordinaire, part New
Direction,
human against radical fundamentalism, against degrading discriminative
blind terror of Bush of course, blinded racism, fanaticism, ever
wondered
that since you were bourne, you like that word, why the fokking Abu
Graib
style job against the whole world? Excuse me, I better wait till the
wall
falls from New Direction.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:22:32 AM2/24/08
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Lost the war on the human side and at it like Moscow's KGB.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:27:13 AM2/24/08
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Yeah I know. The fokkin Jew. We are still Americans, we can still kick
ass, lost in
cyber blind terror. The world is aware already.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:28:43 AM2/24/08
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International territory fokkin Sheriff.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:29:24 AM2/24/08
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You are no fokkin Sheriff with big dark glasses and a beating stick.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:31:19 AM2/24/08
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Go fokkin ku klux klan, fokkin. Fokkin racist. Fokkin human crime.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:34:10 AM2/24/08
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Fokkin alert. Need report! Gestapo come, well report Orwell. Reporting
problems officer
Ceausescu street police? Need those street cameras?

Fucking fokkin radical extreme. Sommer. Ireland. Mongolia is in South
America.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:39:15 AM2/24/08
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Ceausescu of police, KGB of Moscow, Brain of Washington, radical of
fundamentalism,
radical in Bush's Universal, fokkin of blind terror and fear, fokkin
of control of
power, iron of regime, fear of humanity, totalitarian tarnishing of
government,
humiliator of people with college degrees. You fokkin fundamentalism
and
power, marxes of power in the head, walls of civilization.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:42:17 AM2/24/08
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Brain washington, suck your booglebush, follow people in Google,
excessitate fear of government, show religious control, immensiate
war,
create blind wall, not know who was John Lennon but a nigger.

Michael Gray

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:44:02 AM2/24/08
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The wrong ward, obviously.
More thorazine, Nurse!

gb6...@yahoo.com

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:46:23 AM2/24/08
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Teach em a lesson. Like Washington did with Japan, regardless that
they lost the war, cause you are so powerful and govern-mentalled.
Drop the fucking atomic bomb. Show em whose the boss in town.
Teach em a degrading lesson, like to niggers during slavery.

Humanity is a bit bigger than you. In Europe places don't have a boss
and places don't have niggers. Europe prides itself that there is no
radical fundamentalism. Creating blind terror like Bush is not the
world
solution.


gb6...@yahoo.com

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:50:45 AM2/24/08
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I have a Summa Cum Laude and a college education, and this group
is usually kept clear of war-mongering radical fundamentalism and
marxes of power in the head.

gb6...@yahoo.com

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:56:49 AM2/24/08
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You won't cry because you are a fucking disaster of beliefs, you don't
see that each place has it's own importances, you try to assimilate,
and incline to government, to radicalism, and not to humanity of
course,
not to honest questions but to discrimination, war mongering, blind
terror
becomes your game of wall, you attribute to People's Capitalism, a
contra
CCCP game of ultimacy, with that repression in all your soul and
playing
a no fucking clue, just as it was in Japan, a game of power as that.

You never see weakness as weakness itself. You are a boss of violence,
uncivilized, and seeking revenge. Go Bush!

gb6...@yahoo.com

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Feb 24, 2008, 3:05:09 AM2/24/08
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Humanity once again learned about repression. You stick to the
college,
of the way the world agrees, and not like a gypsy in revenge, personal
showdowns of discriminative pervasion toward something the educated
of course don't agree with, to humiliate and feel invincible in the
Ceausescu
in power sense of how things should be AND WHO IS THE BOSS.

Pervasion is bad. Discrimination and religious obsession to oppress
and
be the oppressor in cyber-fascistic fear-mongering obsessive us and
them
Mongolia is in South America form of power, publically driven
molestations,
KKK logic, use of discriminative terror named Internet, addictive
bullyboy
American freakshow as in school you were the King of the bullies and
repression.

Since you understand no word, tarnish tavarish KKK PPPC, tarnish big
brother
victory, tarnish cold rogue politics, feel racism is in your hand and
feel you
can control masses at will, as your dictatorial soul of deadly blind
terror
in the face of man. Repressive skinheadiosis, marxes of power in the
head,
walls created you and not culture.

gb6...@yahoo.com

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Feb 24, 2008, 3:12:46 AM2/24/08
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Cold rogue victory, radical fundamentalist blind terror, racist
regimes,
must win against humanity, must proclaim marxes of power, must create
blind terror of fear of racism, must teach em a lesson as was in
Japan,
must list, blacklist, torture humanity, must discriminate, label,
humiliate
and not see blindness of racism, in Iraq that is like the Soviet-
Afghan war
leaving a million dead, not see that most Arabs turned to think
negatively
of Americans, that as Hitler: Perceiving a peace of mind in killing a
few
million people and creating racism.

gb6...@yahoo.com

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Feb 24, 2008, 3:27:37 AM2/24/08
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Not seeing that a war transformed all, but seek revenge as Bush.
One can say End the war, this is no Vietnam, the US turned into Hitler

No joke. Iraq that is like the Soviet-Afghan war leaving a million
dead
fighting Islamist extremists for radical fundamentalist control, not
see
that most Arabs turned to think negatively of Americans (between 80
and 90 percent of Arabs who in the past thought positively of
Americans
now think negatively of Americans according to a study taken by a
Jewish political institute in Israel), again, that as Hitler:


Perceiving a
peace of mind in killing a few million people and creating racism.

This is the end of a nation otherwise, radical control sank to
something
of a KKK iron.

How long your being seeks to molest the jew to become extortionist
power and just that?

gb6...@yahoo.com

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Feb 24, 2008, 3:30:12 AM2/24/08
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Say no to racism and be a man, a human man or turn back to the marxes
of powers, KKK or KGB, Stalin or other forms of victories that are
beyond
your self.

gb6...@yahoo.com

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Feb 24, 2008, 3:32:08 AM2/24/08
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There were a lot more good words on TV in the 90's. A lost world.

John Baker

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Feb 24, 2008, 3:50:31 AM2/24/08
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Idiot.

<PLONK!>


johac

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Feb 24, 2008, 4:10:56 AM2/24/08
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In article <pan.2008.02.23....@stokkie.net>,
"Robert M. Stockmann" <st...@stokkie.net> wrote:

> Dark Matter, a result of the heliocentric doctrine
> ===================================================

""Eppur si muove"
--
John #1782

Michael Gray

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Feb 24, 2008, 6:04:38 AM2/24/08
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:50:31 -0500, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net>
wrote:

It started talking to itself unusualy early on.

John Baker

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Feb 24, 2008, 10:54:07 AM2/24/08
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Probably because nobody else would.


gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 12:48:28 PM2/24/08
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Vote for Bush. Cold rogue politics rocks! Tech em a lesson.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 12:49:30 PM2/24/08
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Tarnish tavarish PPPC. Cold rogue politics rules. 1943 tavarnishes!
Vote for Bush. And Cheney is modern.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 12:50:40 PM2/24/08
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On Feb 24, 12:44 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:43:13 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 23, 11:22 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:58:09 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Dark matter,
>
> >> >Polarization of gravity to a lower dimension (2D), found 99 percent in
> >> >Spiral Galaxies that do that.
>
> >> >Good night.
>
> >> >From Master. Work still in the making.
>
> >> >www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index.htm(MadPlanet 2084)

>
> >> Which ward are you in?
>
> >Obama says: Refresh! No, that's change. Refresh is good for the USA.
>
> The wrong ward, obviously.
> More thorazine, Nurse!

Everybody loves Bush.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 12:51:41 PM2/24/08
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On Feb 24, 12:44 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:43:13 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 23, 11:22 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:58:09 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Dark matter,
>
> >> >Polarization of gravity to a lower dimension (2D), found 99 percent in
> >> >Spiral Galaxies that do that.
>
> >> >Good night.
>
> >> >From Master. Work still in the making.
>
> >> >www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index.htm(MadPlanet 2084)

>
> >> Which ward are you in?
>
> >Obama says: Refresh! No, that's change. Refresh is good for the USA.
>
> The wrong ward, obviously.
> More thorazine, Nurse!

KKK iron. Vote for Bush.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 12:55:03 PM2/24/08
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On Feb 24, 12:44 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:43:13 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 23, 11:22 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:58:09 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Dark matter,
>
> >> >Polarization of gravity to a lower dimension (2D), found 99 percent in
> >> >Spiral Galaxies that do that.
>
> >> >Good night.
>
> >> >From Master. Work still in the making.
>
> >> >www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index.htm(MadPlanet 2084)

>
> >> Which ward are you in?
>
> >Obama says: Refresh! No, that's change. Refresh is good for the USA.
>
> The wrong ward, obviously.
> More thorazine, Nurse!

KKK politics rocks! Cold rogue politics replaces the grape balls of a
nazi cold rogue lover of dictatorial power, KKK loves superiority in
the nut house and
hanky panky abu ghraib games that Bush loves and lives for to be cold
rogue
man of marxes of powers in the head.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 12:55:42 PM2/24/08
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Marxes of power in the head.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 1:03:02 PM2/24/08
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Cold rogue politics rocks man! Teach em a lesson. Teach em unusually
early on.


gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 1:03:53 PM2/24/08
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In days of slavery the situation was the same, and that's how you
teach them the game.


gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 1:04:33 PM2/24/08
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Boy alert.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 1:11:49 PM2/24/08
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On Feb 24, 12:44 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:43:13 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 23, 11:22 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:58:09 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Dark matter,
>
> >> >Polarization of gravity to a lower dimension (2D), found 99 percent in
> >> >Spiral Galaxies that do that.
>
> >> >Good night.
>
> >> >From Master. Work still in the making.
>
> >> >www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index.htm(MadPlanet 2084)

>
> >> Which ward are you in?
>
> >Obama says: Refresh! No, that's change. Refresh is good for the USA.
>
> The wrong ward, obviously.
> More thorazine, Nurse!

End the war, this is no Vietnam, the US turned into Hitler

No joke. Iraq that is like the Soviet-Afghan war leaving a million
dead fighting Islamist extremists for radical fundamentalist control,
not see that most Arabs turned to think
negatively of Americans (between 80 and 90 percent of Arabs who in the
past thought positively of Americans now think negatively of Americans
according to a study taken by a Jewish political institute in Israel),

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 1:13:43 PM2/24/08
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On Feb 24, 12:44 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:43:13 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 23, 11:22 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:58:09 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Dark matter,
>
> >> >Polarization of gravity to a lower dimension (2D), found 99 percent in
> >> >Spiral Galaxies that do that.
>
> >> >Good night.
>
> >> >From Master. Work still in the making.
>
> >> >www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index.htm(MadPlanet 2084)

>
> >> Which ward are you in?
>
> >Obama says: Refresh! No, that's change. Refresh is good for the USA.
>
> The wrong ward, obviously.
> More thorazine, Nurse!

KKK Iron. Marxes of power in the heads, KGB, KKK boy alert
cold rogue politics that the world loves, iron. Totally regime.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 1:39:07 PM2/24/08
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On Feb 24, 12:44 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:43:13 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 23, 11:22 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:58:09 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Dark matter,
>
> >> >Polarization of gravity to a lower dimension (2D), found 99 percent in
> >> >Spiral Galaxies that do that.
>
> >> >Good night.
>
> >> >From Master. Work still in the making.
>
> >> >www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index.htm(MadPlanet 2084)

>
> >> Which ward are you in?
>
> >Obama says: Refresh! No, that's change. Refresh is good for the USA.
>
> The wrong ward, obviously.
> More thorazine, Nurse!

Long serve People's Capitalism, marxes of power in the head, tarnish
tavarish PPPC
as in days of slavery the situation was the same, that's how you play
the game.
Cold rogue politics, KKK iron, boy alert and then the great tavarnish
speaks to teach em a lesson. Cold rogue regimes, people of walls,
people of power and no desire. Summa Cum Laude or others with college
education will see the Great Comoter's best place in the house, the
race, the power, the marxes of KKK iron.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 1:45:46 PM2/24/08
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On Feb 24, 12:44 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:43:13 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 23, 11:22 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:58:09 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Dark matter,
>
> >> >Polarization of gravity to a lower dimension (2D), found 99 percent in
> >> >Spiral Galaxies that do that.
>
> >> >Good night.
>
> >> >From Master. Work still in the making.
>
> >> >www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index.htm(MadPlanet 2084)

>
> >> Which ward are you in?
>
> >Obama says: Refresh! No, that's change. Refresh is good for the USA.
>
> The wrong ward, obviously.
> More thorazine, Nurse!

Cyber-fascist molestation, discriminative obligation. Terrorist,
fascists and jews,
the Gestapo rules. Marxes of power in the head.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 1:49:06 PM2/24/08
to
On Feb 24, 12:44 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:43:13 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 23, 11:22 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:58:09 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Dark matter,
>
> >> >Polarization of gravity to a lower dimension (2D), found 99 percent in
> >> >Spiral Galaxies that do that.
>
> >> >Good night.
>
> >> >From Master. Work still in the making.
>
> >> >www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index.htm(MadPlanet 2084)
>
> >> Which ward are you in?
>
> >Obama says: Refresh! No, that's change. Refresh is good for the USA.
>
> The wrong ward, obviously.
> More thorazine, Nurse!

Old human crimes, never end, ever since Spencer's prediction of the
wall.
Marxes of power come to be, fascist fanaticism, KKK iron machine,
brains
of washington to moscow KGB.

gb

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Feb 24, 2008, 1:57:10 PM2/24/08
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On Feb 24, 12:44 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:43:13 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 23, 11:22 pm, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:58:09 -0800 (PST), gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Dark matter,
>
> >> >Polarization of gravity to a lower dimension (2D), found 99 percent in
> >> >Spiral Galaxies that do that.
>
> >> >Good night.
>
> >> >From Master. Work still in the making.
>
> >> >www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index.htm(MadPlanet 2084)
>
> >> Which ward are you in?
>
> >Obama says: Refresh! No, that's change. Refresh is good for the USA.
>
> The wrong ward, obviously.
> More thorazine, Nurse!

People with Summa Cum Laudes and other degrees have to first serve the
President on the Internet. Marxes of power in the head, radical
extreme, radical fundamentalist power of a regime, cold rogue politics
that one comes to 'turn to'. Fuck you and your marxes of power in the
head.

gb6...@yahoo.com

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Feb 24, 2008, 2:08:15 PM2/24/08
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> >> >Dark matter,
>
> >> >Polarization of gravity to a lower dimension (2D), found 99 percent in
> >> >Spiral Galaxies that do that.
>
> >> >Good night.
>
> >> >From Master. Work still in the making.
>
> >> >www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index.htm(MadPlanet 2084)
>
> >> Which ward are you in?
>
> >Obama says: Refresh! No, that's change. Refresh is good for the USA.
>
> The wrong ward, obviously.
> More thorazine, Nurse!

Radical killers, cold rogue extreme, dummbed by the regime. Nothing of
the European soul. Marxes of brains, totalitarian repression, crimes
against humanities, a peace of mind in the deaths of millions and
creating of racism. Adolh Hitler of radical control, Refresh!

Tarnish tavarnish PPPC. Teach em a lesson, on who is the boss!

Richard Tobin

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In article <pan.2008.02.24....@stokkie.net>,

Robert M. Stockmann <st...@stokkie.net> wrote:

>Well obviously we are continiously rotating with a radial rotation speed
>of 1176.58 km/hour at latitude 45o. How can it be that sometimes with good
>weather its total wind still and we can hear someone whisper from a
>distance of 25 meters or more?

That must be wy it's so difficult to talk in planes.

-- Richard
--
:wq

Message has been deleted
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Robert M. Stockmann

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On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:13:21 -0700, Michael wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:48:51 +0100, Robert M. Stockmann wrote:
>
>> whilest silently sticking to the Copernicus/Kepler
>> heliocentric system as starting point and never write science
>> publications which could hint readers to the geocentric model.
>
> I kinda like the idea of a spinning earth in orbit around a spinning sun
> which itself is in orbit around the center of our galaxy. Since what you
> like and believe, and what I like and believe, doesn't make the slightest
> difference to anyone, I think I'll stick with the scientific model.

As the author Marshall Hall mentions on the back side of his book :
All NASA calculations which should deliver the highest accuracy are based
on a non-moving earth, i.e. the geocentric model. It's not that
geocentrism is still that old outdated model, its still updated and
frequently used even today :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_geocentrism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocentric_orbit

Please note that the above two wikipages mention scientific proofs for
Geocentrism, like 'Quantization of redshifts' etc. It is in fact the
heliocentric model which is lacking scientific proof, i.e. recent hard
data measurement results for its correctness :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentric_model

"Modern use of geocentric and heliocentric

In modern calculations, the origin and orientation of a coordinate system
often have to be selected. For practical reasons, systems with their
origin in the mass, solar mass or in the center of mass of solar system
are frequently selected. The adjectives may be used in this context.
However, such selection of coordinates has no philosophical or physical
implications. "

Hence, even the followers of heliocentrism, i.e. the Astronomical and
Physics establishment, inserted some gross reservations with the ABSOLUTE
implementation of the heliocentric model inside Astronomic research.

Robert
--
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org st...@stokkie.net

Jim Black

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Feb 26, 2008, 11:09:14 AM2/26/08
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And the earth is flat, too!

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1684.htm

--
Jim E. Black (domain in headers)
How to filter out stupid arguments in 40tude Dialog:
!markread,ignore From "Name" +"<email address>"
[X] Watch/Ignore works on subthreads

Androcles

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Feb 26, 2008, 11:34:07 AM2/26/08
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"Jim Black" <fml...@organization.edu> wrote in message
news:1u7xkngcnaw9e.usge1y2nyl4k$.dlg@40tude.net...

| And the earth is flat, too!

Only for you crank relativists.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Clockgain.PNG

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