Why did Einstein say 'God doesn't play dice'?

[Sam Wormley]

Why did Einstein say 'God doesn't play dice'?
> http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/multimedia/2013/mar/04/why-did-einstein-say-god-doesnt-play-dice

[benj]

Total misrepresentation of the problem, Asshat.

Bell's theorem does NOT say that God plays dice!

Bells theorem says that Either Quantum Mechanics OR Relativity is WRONG!
Both cannot be correct.

So which do you believe, Sam? Does God play dice or is Einstein a moron?

[hanson]

"Sam Wormley" <swor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why did Einstein say 'God doesn't play dice'?
<http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/multimedia/2013/mar/04/why-did-einstein-say-god-doesnt-play-dice>
>

hanson wrote:
Because Albert was a kike, who like all believers,
Jews & other wise, constantly tell their god what
to do.
BTW,
... already more then 60+ years ago
Einstein recanted his SR/GR and
___ Einstein became a RELATIVITY DENIER ____
<http://tinyurl.com/Einstein-denied-his-SR-and-GR>

>

[alie...@gmail.com]

On May 22, 11:13 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why did Einstein say 'God doesn't play dice'?
>

> >http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/multimedia/2013/mar/04/why-did-ei...

Is there some reason you insist on linking to videos? Are there no
straight text representations of the material you want to present to
the group?


Mark L. Fergerson

[alie...@gmail.com]

On May 22, 11:38 am, benj <b...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:13:23 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > Why did Einstein say 'God doesn't play dice'?
> >>http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/multimedia/2013/mar/04/why-did-
> einstein-say-god-doesnt-play-dice
>
> Total misrepresentation of the problem, Asshat.
>
> Bell's theorem does NOT say that God plays dice!

It does, sort of. In terms of Einstein's colloquialism, it says that
He not only plays dice, He throws them where even He doesn't know what
spots they show until *we* look at them.

> Bells theorem says that Either Quantum Mechanics OR Relativity is WRONG!
> Both cannot be correct.
>
> So which do you believe, Sam?  Does God play dice or is Einstein a moron?

"Belief" should not be a factor in science. Since even the most
rabid quantum entanglement proponents cannot demonstrate FTL
information transfer it's probable that both are correct *but
incomplete* and we are just trying to parse reality incorrectly.
Again.


Mark L. Fergerson

[Sam Wormley]

Often there are transcripts (but not in this instance). I realized
early on that I am a visual thinker. Diagrams and equations in
textbooks are a superb way of communicating. For example, in the
introductory chapter of Griffith's Introduction to Quantum Mechanics,
the diagrams are beautifully done.

Videos, I will admit, are fleeting and not something one can dwell
on, but their best effect can be in the form of review or to spark
a question or idea that is pursued after the fact.

The physics in many videos is pretty brief and watered down, but
hopefully, for the layperson (I'll avoid the use of kooks and
cranks) that hang out in science newsgroups, the level is a decent
match for the uneducated wishing to learn something.

-Sam

[alie...@gmail.com]

On May 22, 12:26 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/22/13 2:08 PM, n...@bid.nes wrote:
>
> > On May 22, 11:13 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Why did Einstein say 'God doesn't play dice'?
>
> >>>http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/multimedia/2013/mar/04/why-did-ei...
>
> >    Is there some reason you insist on linking to videos? Are there no
> > straight text representations of the material you want to present to
> > the group?
>
> >    Mark L. Fergerson
>
>    Often there are transcripts (but not in this instance). I realized
>    early on that I am a visual thinker. Diagrams and equations in
>    textbooks are a superb way of communicating. For example, in the
>    introductory chapter of Griffith's Introduction to Quantum Mechanics,
>    the diagrams are beautifully done.

Yes, and one can ponder them at length without having to hit a
"pause" button at exactly the right time.

>    Videos, I will admit, are fleeting and not something one can dwell
>    on, but their best effect can be in the form of review or to spark
>    a question or idea that is pursued after the fact.

Worse, much of the information is in the audio portion of the
presentation which can be a severe distraction to others in the room
(not to mention to the viewer), and headphones are still an awkward
workaround.

Besides which, not everyone has or wants the capability to watch
youtube what with its constant need for upgrades and hogging of
computer resources.

>    The physics in many videos is pretty brief and watered down, but
>    hopefully, for the layperson (I'll avoid the use of kooks and
>    cranks) that hang out in science newsgroups, the level is a decent
>    match for the uneducated wishing to learn something.

Sorry, I'm a "hard Buddhist". I prefer my teachers to teach at the
highest level of their understanding, not to "dumb down" for the
benefit of the hard of thinking.

If you insist on continuing to link to videos, please link only to
those that can be viewed without having to listen to them.


Mark L. Fergerson

[Sam Wormley]

Or even easier, just skip over my video posts.

[benj]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:15:53 -0700, nu...@bid.nes wrote:

> On May 22, 11:38 am, benj <b...@iwaynet.net> wrote:

>> Bell's theorem does NOT say that God plays dice!
>
> It does, sort of. In terms of Einstein's colloquialism, it says that
> He not only plays dice, He throws them where even He doesn't know what
> spots they show until *we* look at them.

I forgot that mankind is the "highest" and "most intelliegent" and "most
powerful" beings in the universe. Sorry.

> "Belief" should not be a factor in science. Since even the most
> rabid quantum entanglement proponents cannot demonstrate FTL information
> transfer it's probable that both are correct *but incomplete* and we are
> just trying to parse reality incorrectly. Again.

Mark, we are not talking science here, but Wormley's "science" where
belief is not only a factor but the ONLY factor!

[benj]

Mark, That would be because these posts are done by a group of Sam's
"students" for him in his name, and being modern American college
students and products of the public school system, none can read and can
only look at pictures. Let's call them "visual thinkers"...

[benj]

> Or even easier, just skip over my video posts.

The problem Sam, is that you are like one of those dogs that bark at
everything and nothing. But one still has to go see what he's barking at
before you tell him to shut up!

[Mahipal]

On May 22, 2:58 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:

> "Sam Wormley" <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Why did Einstein say 'God doesn't play dice'?

> <http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/multimedia/2013/mar/04/why-did-ei...>

>
> hanson wrote:
>
> Because Albert was a kike, who like all believers,
> Jews & other wise, constantly tell their god what
> to do.
> BTW,
> ... already more then 60+ years ago
>                Einstein recanted his SR/GR and
> ___ Einstein became a RELATIVITY DENIER ____
> <http://tinyurl.com/Einstein-denied-his-SR-and-GR>

You must realize, all of YouSA indeed, we can ignore Tweets from a
mere 60 seconds ago, who gives a relative WTF about 60+ or a 600+ or a
6000* years ago. Don't follow the math, friend the MaimStreamedMedia.

-- Mahipal

[Mahipal]

On May 22, 5:25 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sam Worm Lying Idiot... see 508 Compliance refers to “Section 508” of
the Workforce Rehabilitation Act of 1973. Section 508 mandates...

Yes, it's mandates and no feemales need apply. Duh Squared.

-- Mahipal

[alie...@gmail.com]

On May 22, 3:19 pm, benj <b...@iwaynet.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:15:53 -0700, n...@bid.nes wrote:
> > On May 22, 11:38 am, benj <b...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
> >> Bell's theorem does NOT say that God plays dice!
>
> >   It does, sort of. In terms of Einstein's colloquialism, it says that
> > He not only plays dice, He throws them where even He doesn't know what
> > spots they show until *we* look at them.
>
> I forgot that mankind is the "highest" and "most intelliegent" and "most
> powerful" beings in the universe. Sorry.

I was referring to the colossal arrogance of the usual requirement
that a human must be on hand to collapse a wavefunction,

> >   "Belief" should not be a factor in science. Since even the most
> > rabid quantum entanglement proponents cannot demonstrate FTL information
> > transfer it's probable that both are correct *but incomplete* and we are
> > just trying to parse reality incorrectly. Again.
>
> Mark, we are not talking science here, but Wormley's "science" where
> belief is not only a factor but the ONLY factor!

Yeah, I know. Sigh.


Mark L. Fergerson

[Y.Porat]

On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:13:23 PM UTC+3, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Why did Einstein say 'God doesn't play dice'?
>
> > http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/multimedia/2013/mar/04/why-did-einstein-say-god-doesnt-play-dice

=====================
because he believed in a **deterministic world **
and hat is how our world is

if we dont know all the detaiils
IT IS OUR FAULT NOT NATURE S
and as for now
he things that are not known
are much bigger than the ''known ''
so
some modesty will not hurt non of us

Y.Porat
========================================

[Absolutely Vertical]

On 5/23/2013 6:30 AM, Y.Porat wrote:
> =====================
> because he believed in a **deterministic world **
> and hat is how our world is
>
> if we dont know all the detaiils
> IT IS OUR FAULT NOT NATURE S
> and as for now
> he things that are not known
> are much bigger than the ''known ''
> so
> some modesty will not hurt non of us
>
> Y.Porat
> ========================================
>
>

where is your humility when you declare that it is certain that the
world is deterministic?

[hanson]

Fatso, the "Absolutely Vertical" Ersatz Rabbi
<absolutel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
Y.Porat wrote:
Einstein believed in a **deterministic world **

and hat is how our world is
if we dont know all the detaiils
IT IS OUR FAULT NOT NATURE S
and as for now
he things that are not known
are much bigger than the ''known ''

so, some modesty will not hurt non of us
Y.Porat
>
Fatso PONTIFICATED & wrote:
Porat, where is your humility when you declare

that it is certain that the world is deterministic?
>

hanson wrote:
Fatso, what nerve!.. You Fatso, the mother of all
loudmouthers here, suggests humility for others.
Take that as your own medicine and you may
realize what my good friend Yehiel just said above.
>
--- [[ Porat 1 -:- Fatso 0, zilch, nada ]] ---

[1treePetrifiedForestLane]

no-one is going to make God look open the box & look
at teh remains of teh cat; yuck.

God throws tetrahedral dice, at a minimum,
unless God needs a necessarily binary outcome, or
the Great Potato.