The best search engines on the net
Tom Potter
http://bing.com
http://blindsearch.fejus.com
http://boardreader.com
http://conjugator.reverso.net
http://dictionary.reference.com
http://dictionary.reverso.net
http://dooblet.com
http://downloadanystuff.org
http://duckduckgo.com
http://en.wikipedia.org
http://entrypoint.bl.uk
http://ezinearticles.com
http://filext.com
http://hakia.com
http://images.search.yahoo.com
http://ineedfile.com
http://ittyurl.net
http://ixquick.com
http://juhuj.com
http://mapvivo.com
http://me.webring.com
http://melzoo.com
http://mycroft.mozdev.org
http://mysearch.intel.com
http://news.surfwax.com
http://newssearch.bbc.co.uk
http://pipl.com
http://powerset.com
http://pt.netlog.com
http://rapidlibrary.com
http://rapidshare-search-engine.com
http://rover.ebay.com
http://rss2search.com
http://search.cracks.am
http://search.creativecommons.org
http://search.io
http://search.live.com
http://search.nationmaster.com
http://search.nndb.com
http://search.surfcanyon.com
http://similar-images.googlelabs.com
http://software.informer.com
http://stable.toolserver.org
http://startpage.com
http://tagoo.ru
http://thesaurus.reference.com
http://ugux.com
http://us2.startpage.com/eng
http://usasearch.gov
http://viswiki.com
http://wakoopa.com
http://wapedia.mobi
http://wikimapia.org
http://wikitravel.org
http://www.9down.com
http://www.acronymfinder.com
http://www.ahealthyme.com
http://www.alexa.com
http://www.amazon.com
http://www.ancestry.com
http://www.answers.com
http://www.antennasearch.com
http://www.archive.org
http://www.ask.com
http://www.baidu.com
http://www.bing-vs-google.com
http://www.collegehumor.com
http://www.curehunter.com
http://www.ddlmade.com
http://www.devilfinder.com
http://www.docjax.com
http://www.drugs.com
http://www.findsounds.com
http://www.flickr.com
http://www.free-ebook-download.net
http://www.gazopa.com
http://www.go2web20.net
http://www.google.com
http://www.hulu.com
http://www.iseek.com
http://www.itistimed.com
http://www.legistorm.com
http://www.mahalo.com
http://www.maxmind.com
http://www.mednar.com
http://www.metacafe.com
http://www.metaglossary.com
http://www.muckety.com
http://www.natscience.com
http://www.oneriot.com
http://www.pctools.com
http://www.powerset.com
http://www.publicprofiler.org
http://www.reference.com
http://www.scirus.com
http://www.scribd.com
http://www.serialbay.com
http://www.slideshare.net
http://www.spock.com
http://www.taptu.mobi
http://www.thefind.com
http://www.thefreedictionary.com
http://www.time.com
http://www.tinydl.com
http://www.top100.cn
http://www.topix.net
http://www.twine.com
http://www.ulib.org
http://www.urbandictionary.com
http://www.visuwords.com
http://www.wikinvest.com
http://www.wolframalpha.com
http://www.wordsmith.org
http://www.youtube.com
http://www2.sandbox.google.com
The best of the best.
http://www.topix.net/
The best news search on the Web.
http://us2.startpage.com/eng/
The most private engine on the web.
Does not save ANY data on searches.
http://juhuj.com
Use to find and download files by extensions
such as pdf,pps,ppt,doc,mp3,mov,zip,txt,etc.
Clear, concise, graphic PowerPoint and PDF files
on thousands of subjects.
http://www.natscience.com
Search science newsgroups.
http://search.top100.cn
Find and download MP3s
Chinese and Western
http://www.tinydl.com
Great data on almost all computer programs.
http://www.thefind.com
The best shopping search engine.
http://www.visuwords.com
The best dictionary
http://search.time.com
Search Time Magazine to see how they
subtly made Einstein their Poster Boy
and how they manipulated America
into waging war on Germany rather than Russia
who was instigating the Class Wars of the 1900s.
http://www.urbandictionary.com
Use this site to get definitions before they get to Webster's.
http://www.mednar.com
Deep medical searches.
http://www.findsounds.com
Use to find sounds complete with frequency plots.
http://www.alexa.com
Use Alexa to see what's hot on the web.
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Sam Wormley
these search engines. I suggest just practicing with one
at a time.
Klaus Schadenfreude
[snip]
Google is currently the most used search engine. It has one of the
largest databases of Web pages, including many other types of web
documents (blog posts, wiki pages, group discussion threads and
document formats (e.g., PDFs, Word or Excel documents, PowerPoints).
Despite the presence of all these formats, Google's popularity ranking
often places worthwhile pages near the top of search results.
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/TeachingLib/Guides/Internet/SearchEngines.html
By far the most popular of all search engines, Google remains the
favorite choice of both users and expert reviewers, who praise its
speed, relevant results and ease of use.
http://www.consumersearch.com/search-engine-reviews
http://searchenginewatch.com/
Search Engine Watch Awards
The Search Engine Watch Awards recognize outstanding achievements in
web searching.
Outstanding Search Service: Winner: Google
Best News Search Engine: Winner: Google
Best Image Search Engine: Winner: Google
Best Design: Winner: Google
Most Webmaster Friendly Search Provider: Winner: Google
Best Paid Placement Service: Winner: Google
Best Search Toolbar: Winner: Google
Best Search Feature: Winner: Google
http://websearch.about.com/od/enginesanddirectories/p/websearch101.htm
Google is always a safe bet for most search queries, and most of the
time your search will be successful on the very first page of search
results.
Etc., etc., etc.
Dirk Van de moortel
djvej5dqh7hc9movs...@4ax.com
> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <xpriv...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> www.google.com
>
> Google is currently the most used search engine.
Yes, and it is by far the best. By miles.
Potter hates it because it is one that generates the most
accurate list of entries with the keywords:
"Tom Potter" idiot.
Dirk Vdm
Klaus Schadenfreude
<dirkvand...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
And, of course, his vendetta against Google for canceling his email
account and posting privileges, due to his incessant spamming and
posting of hate material.
Tom Potter
"Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvand...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%CNZm.9451$oQ5....@newsfe25.ams2...
Dirk makes a good point when he calls attention
to the fact that a Google search on the keyword
"dork moortel"
comes up with "the most accurate list of entries"
that describes him.
Tom Potter
As can be seen
my pal "Klaus Schadenfreude"
is one of those guys locked into the past
and follows public opinion,
rather than search for better ways of doing things.
No doubt Google gets the most hype,
and is the "Best Paid Placement Service",
BUT
rational, intelligent folks should consider
that Google has a race/religion bias,
"cooks the books" on searches,
bombards folks with ads,
collects all kinds of personal information on users,
and perhaps most dangerous to free speech and society
is the fact that Google is hijacking UseNet,
the last refuge of free speech on the Internet.
I suggest that independent, intelligent, free speech loving folks
should try some of the search engines I listed,
and they will see that many of them are better suited
for their purpose, and the use of alternate search engines
will serve to protect free speech, economic viability and diversity.
Tom Potter
It is interesting to see that my pal Klaus Schadenfreude
asserts that posting historical facts from the Bible,
the Jewish Torah, the Magna Carta, old newspaper accounts, etc.
is posting "hate material".
He may be right in the sense that I "hate"
selfishness, lies, and the instigation of conflict and war,
and that I post historical accounts
calling attention to these them
Klaus did make a good point when he called attention
to the fact that as Google has a race/religion bias,
that they censor and cancel the accounts of folks
who post material that the Google management
does not want the public to have access to.
And more threatening to free speech
is the fact that Google is hijacking UseNet,
the last refuge of free speech in the world.
Sam Wormley
>
>
> No doubt Google gets the most hype,
> and is the "Best Paid Placement Service",
>
> BUT
>
> rational, intelligent folks should consider
I think you have that backwards, Potter, Google
got rid of you because of your race/religion bigotry.
Hey Potter, let's talk physics in this newsgroup.
Have you read: Relativistic Effects on Satellite Clocks?
http://relativity.livingreviews.org/open?pubNo=lrr-2003-1&page=node5.html
Klaus Schadenfreude
>
>"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:7iafj5tmtsoard0fd...@4ax.com...
>> In talk.politics.guns "Dirk Van de moortel"
>> <dirkvand...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> djvej5dqh7hc9movs...@4ax.com
>>>> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <xpriv...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> www.google.com
>>>>
>>>> Google is currently the most used search engine.
>>>
>>>Yes, and it is by far the best. By miles.
>>>
>>>Potter hates it because it is one that generates the most
>>>accurate list of entries with the keywords:
>>> "Tom Potter" idiot.
>>
>> And, of course, his vendetta against Google for canceling his email
>> account and posting privileges, due to his incessant spamming and
>> posting of hate material.
>
>It is interesting to see that my pal Klaus Schadenfreude
>asserts that posting historical facts from the Bible,
>the Jewish Torah, the Magna Carta, old newspaper accounts, etc.
>is posting "hate material".
Unfortunately, you don't do that. Luckily, as you can see by the
responses so far, everyone is aware that you're just a lying old
fraud.
>And more threatening to free speech
>is the fact that Google is hijacking UseNet,
>the last refuge of free speech in the world.
Yet potter is powerless to explain exactly how Google "hijacks"
usenet, although he has been asked more than several times.
I'll ask again- How does Google hijack usenet, which exists completely
and utterly independent from Google?
We know you'll lie, because that's what you do.
Klaus Schadenfreude
AND is the biggest and by far most popular and successful, and is the
highest rated by computer professionals.
REAL computer professionals, not wannabes like yourself, Tommy.
>rational, intelligent folks should consider
>that Google has a race/religion bias,
Which racist hate-spew were you unable to locate on Google, Tom?
>"cooks the books" on searches,
>bombards folks with ads,
So NONE of the links you provided had ads? Is that what you're saying?
>collects all kinds of personal information on users,
Cite.
>and perhaps most dangerous to free speech and society
>is the fact that Google is hijacking UseNet,
>the last refuge of free speech on the Internet.
There is no connection between Google and usenet, kook, other than
some people use Google to post and read usenet articles.. That's like
saying "Ford is hijacking the Interstate."
>I suggest that independent, intelligent, free speech loving folks
>should try some of the search engines I listed,
>and they will see that many of them are better suited
>for their purpose, and the use of alternate search engines
>will serve to protect free speech, economic viability and diversity.
[chuckle] Yes, one certainly could, if one's aim was to boycott
Google. But for the rest of us with a modicum of intelligence, we'd
prefer to use the search engine that has the best chance of getting us
the result we want. The only people that are going to test ten
different search types in each of the hundred some-odd search engines
you mentioned are going to be lonely losers like yourself with more
time on their hands than brains between their ears.
Face it, Tommy. You've lost. Google kicked your ass because WE asked
them to.
Tom Potter
wrote:
> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <xprivatn...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:7iafj5tmtsoard0fd...@4ax.com...
> >> In talk.politics.guns "Dirk Van de moortel"
>
> >>>Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>> djvej5dqh7hc9movsu5brfo9f1i6288...@4ax.com
am i the only one who thinks it is hilarious that tom potter rants and
raves about google all the fucking time while posting from a google
groups account?
Tom Potter
<dirkvandemoor...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> djvej5dqh7hc9movsu5brfo9f1i6288...@4ax.com
>
>
> > [snip]
>
> >www.google.com
>
> > Google is currently the most used search engine.
>
> Yes, and it is by far the best. By miles.
>
> Potter hates it because it is one that generates the most
> accurate list of entries with the keywords:
> "Tom Potter" idiot.
>
> Dirk Vdm
and it is the best because password recovery is so quick and easy.
i have given this group the gift of silence from this assclown for a
little while. merry christmas + 2.
Klaus Schadenfreude
<xpriv...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>am i the only one who thinks it is hilarious that tom potter rants and
>raves about google all the fucking time while posting from a google
>groups account?
You're the only one who THINKS he is, since he's not.
Tom Potter
I am sadden to see that my pal "Klaus Schadenfreude"
is so preoccupied with personal attacks and parroting
that he seems to have missed my
posts referencing historical facts from the Bible,
the Jewish Torah, the Magna Carta, old newspaper accounts, etc.
For his benefit,
I am reposting a post I made
using historical facts from the Jewish Torah.
I'll be happy to repost other posts that I made
if my pal "Klaus Schadenfreude" will discuss these
in a rational, intelligent, moral way.
Here is an excerpt from the Jewish play book, the Torah.
======================================
04:031:009 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian
captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all
their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods.
04:031:010 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all
their goodly castles, with fire.
04:031:011 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men
and of beasts.
04:031:012 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil,
unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation
of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of
Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.
04:031:013 And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of
the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp.
04:031:014 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the
captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which
came from the battle.
04:031:015 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?
04:031:016 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the
counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the
matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation
of the LORD.
04:031:017 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and
kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
04:031:018 But all the women children, that have not known a man by
lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
=============================
As can be seen,
Moses, the Founder Father of the Jewish religion
destroyed the infrastructure of his neighbors,
killed all of the males, including the male children,
killed all of the non-virgins women and girls,
sacrificed 32 of the virgin women and girls to his God,
and had his followers rape the remaining virgin women and girls.
Tom Potter
To each his own.
It is obvious that "Klaus Schadenfreude"
would have been one of the people
kissing up to the Pigs in the
science fiction story
"To serve man".
To paraphrase Ben Franklin:
Those who give up liberty
to obtain a little temporary search convenience,
deserve neither liberty nor search convenience.
Klaus Schadenfreude
>I am sadden to see that my pal "Klaus Schadenfreude"
>is so preoccupied with personal attacks and parroting
>
>that he seems to have missed my
>posts referencing historical facts from the Bible,
>the Jewish Torah, the Magna Carta, old newspaper accounts, etc.
I saw your posts. They were all unsubstantiated bullshit, kinda like
your claims about China. Remember those? No? Let me remind you.....
"The cops in China are unarmed, do not wear dark sunglasses
and do not spend most of their time operating speed traps. It is
interesting to see that there are about 40,000 policemen in New York
and about 800 in Beijing"
- Delirious China "expert" Tom Potter
>For his benefit,
>I am reposting a post I made
>using historical facts from the Jewish Torah.
That figures, since you know you've just gotten your wrinkled old ass
kicked talking about search engines. I'm surprised you didn't bring up
THIS gem.....
________________
"I copyrighted the first search engine over 20 years ago..."
-Tom Potter, 2009
Klaus Schadenfreude
>> Face it, Tommy. You've lost. Google kicked your ass because WE asked
>> them to.
>
>To each his own.
Thanks for admitting that Google has been judged to be superior by
millions and millions of people.
STILL waiting for you to back up your claim that Google has "hijacked"
usenet.
I think we both know that's just the claim of a delirious old
man......
Uncle Al
idiot
http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Taxes and Regulations are the price one pays
to be part of a civilized society.
You're “too small to win”, Tom Potter;
you'd win more battles if you were part of something bigger.
That, said, take a look at this ( tounge·in·cheak ) comment of mine:
jeffrelf.f-m.fm/The “ Final Solution • Rapture • Global Warming ”.jpg
[ Note: Eric Gisse has DOS attacked my web·site,
so the .JPG file ( above ) probably won't show ]
Tom Potter
<_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid> wrote in message
news:_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Dec28.11.25am.Wu...
>
> Taxes and Regulations are the price one pays
> to be part of a civilized society.
>
> you'd win more battles if you were part of something bigger.
>
> That, said, take a look at this ( tounge·in·cheak ) comment of mine:
> �?�.jpg
> [ Note: Eric Gisse has DOS attacked my web·site,
> so the .JPG file ( above ) probably won't show ]
I don't try to win battles.
I just try to call attention to the forces
operating in Nature and society,
and how I think the forces can be directed
to make the world a better place for most folks.
I believe in free speech and freedom.
(Giving folks access to all information,
and letting them make their own decisions.)
Tom Potter
"Sam Wormley" <swor...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:t_adnZKVIqAnvKXW...@mchsi.com...
> On 12/27/09 8:35 PM, Tom Potter wrote:
>>
>>
>> No doubt Google gets the most hype,
>> and is the "Best Paid Placement Service",
>>
>> BUT
>>
>> rational, intelligent folks should consider
>> that Google has a race/religion bias....
>
> I think you have that backwards, Potter, Google
> got rid of you because of your race/religion bigotry.
My pal Sammy makes a good point
when he points out that although Google
allows some posters to persistently post
vulgar personal attacks and lies about
some races, religions and groups,
that they ban posters who post
factual, historical information
that exposes their "bigotry"
and the race/religion/money/power
agenda of the Google Management.
The definition of "bigot" is:
"A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his
own."
As can be seen by the fact that
Google makes it easy for you to get information
that supports their biased agenda,
they make it hard for you to get at facts and opinions
that weaken the race/religion agenda
of the Google Management,
I suspect that what bends the Google Management
all out of shape, and compels them to ban me,
and deny researchers convenient access to the
facts and opinions that I have posted,
is the fact that I am one of the most UN-bigoted posters
on the Internet, and unlike Google Management,
I strongly believe in FREE SPEECH, and life, liberty, and equity
for ALL people and peoples.
Bigots don't like free speech.
Tom Potter
I would like to thank my pal "Klaus Schadenfreude"
for calling attention to the fact
that I copyrighted what was to become the prototype
for "Data mining" in 1989.
I operated several businesses and used
early microprocessors such as the SOL20
and NorthStar systems to "data mine",
list, and plot information about people,
phone calls, inventory, training, and in fact
any kind of analog or digital information.
For example, the operation of an event
actuated a "Hot line dialer" that dialed into the system
advising the time and location of the event.
Analog information was digitized
and appended to what the "Hot line dialer" dialed,
to advise the system of location and levels.
After IBM introduced the PC,
I rewrote my programs in Turbo Pascal, "Clipper",
and 8080 assembler and copyrighted the programs.
Shortly after I copyrighted the programs,
it became possible to patent computer programs,
and I applied for a patent explaining how
the system could also be used to monitor
analog and digital information anywhere in the world.
As I realized for years that
I did not own my businesses, they owned me,
I decided to quit the rat race, and enjoy life,
so I sold and closed my businesses
and let the patent application expire.
If anyone wants to see the origin of "data mining"
do a Copyright office search on
"Operations Management System" or "Thomas Potter"
and get a copy of the copyright.
Note that in 2000,
a couple of years after my copyright,
IBM and others quickly picked up on the concept,
and begin to patent similar but inferior programs.
For example, with my system,
employees used ordinary phones and TI Terminals
to enter data and searches into the system,
and search results could be listed or printed out
on a list, a chart or a map, showing location and details.
My system also dialed remote memory boxes
to retrieve remote data and add it to the master database.
( I had proposed a similar remote access system to Chrysler Financial
to retrieve data from their offices all or the world
back in the 1960's using a computer designed by Sam Erwin,
but as Sam's computer never worked, I lost the deal.)
When Sam ran out of money, I referred him to Hewlett Packard,
and he got HP into the computer business
Amazingly enough,
I managed to get this system working flawlessly on a 640K, 8080 system.
Yes "K", not "M", nor "G".
Klaus Schadenfreude
I would like to thank "Tom Potter" for admitting that he is a kook who
claims to have invented "the search engine" when it has been factually
substantiated that he had nothing to do with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_search_engine
Not the conspicuous absence of any mention of anyone named "Potter."
We note that, once again, you cannot back up your lies on China.
Sam Wormley
>
> "Sam Wormley" <swor...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:t_adnZKVIqAnvKXW...@mchsi.com...
>> On 12/27/09 8:35 PM, Tom Potter wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> No doubt Google gets the most hype,
>>> and is the "Best Paid Placement Service",
>>>
>>> BUT
>>>
>>> rational, intelligent folks should consider
>>> that Google has a race/religion bias....
>>
>> I think you have that backwards, Potter, Google
>> got rid of you because of your race/religion bigotry.
>
Enough said, Potter. Leave it at that.
Mahipal7638
> <_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid> wrote in message
>
> news:_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Dec28.11.25am.Wu...
>
> >
> > Taxes and Regulations are the price one pays
> > to be part of a civilized society.
>
> > You're ?otoo small to win ? , Tom Potter;
> > you'd win more battles if you were part of something bigger.
>
> > That, said, take a look at this ( tounge·in·cheak ) comment of mine:
> > jeffrelf.f-m.fm/The ?o Final Solution ? Rapture ? Global Warming
> > ? .jpg
> > [ Note: Eric Gisse has DOS attacked my web·site,
> > so the .JPG file ( above ) probably won't show ]
>
> I don't try to win battles.
Hi Tom, my pal. Been reading your interactions regularly. The physics
in your posts is that you are a physical entity -- whether the Physics
Research Groups acknowledge individuals or not.
> I just try to call attention to the forces
> operating in Nature and society,
> and how I think the forces can be directed
> to make the world a better place for most folks.
>
> I believe in free speech and freedom.
> (Giving folks access to all information,
> and letting them make their own decisions.)
> --
> Tom Potter
It's hard to accept, given what you state, that you, Tom, still have a
tireless Sad Swarm of Stalkers that track your every post! They don't
let a post of yours go untouched -- as, ironically, Google search
demonstrates. Tom, your reasonableness and patience are without
compare. May your messages of rights to freedom and independence be
everlasting -- even beyond Franklin's America.
"To Serve Man" has been demonstrated to really be "To Serve Evil."
Equivalently, just as readily, "To Serve Google or The-Plagiarizing-
Hulu-Ilk," corporate pions.
Hold your stance Tom and demonstrate to the World how to handle the
Sad Swarm of Stalkers that Google search demonstrates Tom Potter is
needlessly a victim of. IMO, Corponoia -- my word -- has no right to
block any individual's author profile.
The Press is mightier than the Guns. Ergo, the Pen is still mightier
than the Sword.
Enjo(y)...
--
We search our Earth
And her limitless skies
All the while discovering
In our hearts and minds
Is where heaven lies
- Mahipal, My Pal
2009_...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm
Google Groups has a number of faults,
one of which is how they cave·in to complainers.
Fortunately, there are better ways to post to Sci.Physics.
Glorb's un·filtered server* is THEE BEST, I assert.
*: www.Glorb.COM/usenet.php newsRead.Glorb.COM:80
( The “:80” means “port 80” but you can use port 119 )
Klaus Schadenfreude
>?
>Google Groups has a number of faults,
>one of which is how they cave�in to complainers.
>
>Fortunately, there are better ways to post to Sci.Physics.
>Glorb's un�filtered server* is THEE BEST, I assert.
Feel free to explain what that $10 a year buys you.
Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm
Re: My ( Jeff Relf's ) claim that Glorb is THEE BEST way to post.
You ( Mr. Schadenfreude ·snicker· ) told me:
“ Feel free to explain what that $10 a YEAR buys you. ”.
More than once, Eternal·Sep has taken hours to complete a post;
so I stopped using it. I don't have to tolerate that crap, so I don't.
Glorb is ALWAYS up ( Eternal·Sep isn't ) and
posts ALWAYS complete instantly.
Glorb has an unfiltered version, Eternal·Sep doesn't.
Like Google Groups and the pay servers I know about, Glorb allows:
“ Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset=UTF-8 ”.
For example:
www.Google.COM/groups?selm=_%40Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Dec27.8.47pm.dw
[ news:_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Dec27.8.47pm.dw ]
[ The links don't work because Eric Gisse intentionally
consumed all my bandwidth ( www.JeffRelf.F-M.FM )
www.FastMail.FM and I are working on a fix. ]
Eternal·Sep does not allow HTML. nor do the other cost·free servers.
They simply drop the posts ! ?
Glorb's admin ( Geoff Brozny ) is there for me and
he doesn't kick me off when the lunatics come·a·calling.
I have 10 dollars a YEAR for that, don't you ?
Tom Potter
"Mahipal7638" <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:7f129646-8463-4d9d...@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
Although I don't usually acknowledge
support of my views or myself,
as I am interested in forcing a focus
on a few serious issues,
and don't want a thread to degenerate into
an us vs. them situation,
I cannot resist thanking you for your kind words.
--
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Tom Potter
It is not surprising that Sam Wormley,
who has been on the public dole all his life,
does not comprehend the difference between
free speech and "bigotry",
and that he supports governments and organizations
that inhibit the expression of facts and opinions
he does not want the public exposed to,
as many people on the public dole,
are motivated by security and the status quo,
rather than by truth, justice and equity.
The definition of "bigot" is:
"A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions
differing from his own."
As many people on the public dole
become bigots and aggressively work to inhibit free speech
in order to maintain their government security,
education should be a 100% free market function
so that our children are not brainwashed by
free loaders and bigots.
Unlike Sam Wormley,
I am always anxious to discuss and debate important issues,
and unlike Sam, I do not edit and distort the posts of others,
nor do I applaud when someone is censored by
a government or an organization.
It is easy to spot a bigot.
They attack messengers rather than address messages,
and they support censorship when it benefits them.
--
Tom Potter
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Tom Potter
I am flattered to see that my pal "Klaus Schadenfreude"
is trying to call attention to the fact that I developed the first
comprehensive "data mining" and display system for PC's
many years ago.
I must point out that my data-collection, data mining, search engine
which is described in U.S. Copyright
was not JUST an Internet search engine.
If my pal Klaus Schadenfreude" can afford the cost of
the Copyright, and if he has the knowledge and intelligence
to comprehend the Copyright, he will see that
The TOMS system
"Total Operations Management System"
could "data mine" data in old files,
poll live or old data that could be accessed by phone,
such as data stored in SMDR devices,
and that data such as tank levels, traffic light conditions,
or any binary and analog data of interest
could be input, polled, and "mined" to find information of interest,
and the information could be displayed many forms,
such as charts, lists, maps, building plans, time of day, cost, etc.
Considering that Larry Page and his family lived near me,
and that his whole family ( Father, mother,and brother) were into computing,
and considering that I displayed the system at trade shows in the area,
it is likely that some of the Page family picked up my data sheets,
and I discussed the system with them.
Can you imagine a family deeply into the new personal computer
NOT attending the few trade shows in their area?
Thanks for calling my invention to the Usenet friend!
With "Klaus Schadenfreude's wide readership
at least two or three more people
will come to know how Google got into the search business.
--
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Sam Wormley
>
> "Sam Wormley" <swor...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MuqdnVM-mf13n6fW...@mchsi.com...
>> On 12/28/09 9:01 PM, Tom Potter wrote:
>>> My pal Sammy makes a good point...
>>
>> Enough said, Potter. Leave it at that.
>
> It is not surprising that Sam Wormley,
> who has been on the public dole all his life,
Says Potter who is on the public dole as he write... and still
not doing a lick of work.
Gregory Hall
news:17omj51g11aju7tqa...@shared-secrets.com...
> Groups Jeff wrote:
>
>>Glorb's admin ( Geoff Brozny ) is there for me and
>>he doesn't kick me off when the lunatics come�a�calling.
>
> scanner-module is borken.
>
>
>>I have 10 dollars a YEAR for that, don't you ?
>
>
> crap in AFN?
>
A better question is why are YOU trying to act like a net nanny?
<AFN restored>
--
Gregory Hall
Jack
wrote:
>I have 10 dollars a YEAR for that, don't you ?
Glorb's AUS sez no excessive cross-posting.
What's "excessive"?
Also, does Glorb permit politically-incorrect postings that criticize
liberals? In other words, does Glorb, like so many other newsservers,
trample the 1st Amendment when people criticize the moonbats on the
left?
Gregory Hall
news:4b3b9857...@news.qis.net...
With the exception of Altopia, EVERY other news service provider, both free
and pay, have purposefully vague and contradictory TOS/AUP agreements. Such
vague and contradictory TOS/AUP agreements exist for the express purpose of
denying any clear rights and procedures to subscribers to enable
administrators to arbitrarily boot people whose opinions they disagree with
or people they just happen to dislike for whatever reason.
That's the sad reality, folks. Get used to it. If you want a clear,
understandable and fair acceptable use policy administered by an intelligent
and ethical individual then subscribe to Altopia.
--
Gregory Hall
Gregory Hall
> Gregory Hall wrote:
>
>>"Jack" <stayin@home.> wrote in message
>>news:4b3b9857...@news.qis.net...
>>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:26:34 +0000 (UTC), Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have 10 dollars a YEAR for that, don't you ?
>>>
>>> Glorb's AUS sez no excessive cross-posting.
>>>
>>> What's "excessive"?
>>>
>>> Also, does Glorb permit politically-incorrect postings that criticize
>>> liberals? In other words, does Glorb, like so many other newsservers,
>>> trample the 1st Amendment when people criticize the moonbats on the
>>> left?
>>
>>
>>
>>vague and contradictory TOS/AUP agreements.
>
>
> changes
> to a TOS in the whole of the empire!, 'member your little fiasco changing
> the
> path? WBJ wants to know how many groups he can cross-post to, and if
> *Glorb*
> filters certain topics, words, phrases, ect. Now, do you have anything of
> value
> about *Glorb* in respect to his questions, snizzlepuss?
>
>
>
> --
> Robb | Shared Secrets Usenet
Yes, moron! In case you can't seem to figure it out I'm suggesting he forget
all about glorb and subscribe to Altopia where he has clearly defined rules
of conduct to go by along with an admin who is professional, intelligent and
fair-minded. You'd not understand, Robb, but some admins actually act like
professional businessmen.
--
Gregory Hall
Klaus Schadenfreude
What I'm calling attention to is that you had nothing to do with
designing the first web search engine.
>I must point out that my data-collection, data mining, search engine
>which is described in U.S. Copyright
>
>http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?Search_Arg=TXu000400812&Search_Code=REGS&PID=wENtdNUow_7Lq0LBGDBcHccJ8uN-I&SEQ=20090517102551&CNT=25&HIST=1
>
>was not JUST an Internet search engine.
It wasn't an internet search engine at ALL. And it certainly wasn't
anywhere NEAR as useful as Google.
>With "Klaus Schadenfreude's wide readership
>at least two or three more people
>will come to know how Google got into the search business.
It had nothing to do with you, as I've already proven.
Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm
Altopia ( www.Alt.NET ) costs 72 dollars per year;
so I haven't tried it.
Also, I much prefer “Attachment·Free” posts.
Although Altopia's admin ( Chris Caputo ) is top·notch,
I've had nothing but HORRID experiences with “binary servers”.
Speaking of binaries, if anyone knows of a good “file sharing*” service,
―― one that can't be MURDERED by my lunatic “friends” ――
I'm all ears.
*: “File hosting”, files I can make public via a URL.
Gregory Hall
news:_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Dec30.2.28pm.0u...
>
> Altopia ( www.Alt.NET ) costs 72 dollars per year;
> so I haven't tried it.
>
> Also, I much prefer "Attachment�Free" posts.
>
> Although Altopia's admin ( Chris Caputo ) is top�notch,
> I've had nothing but HORRID experiences with "binary servers".
>
> Speaking of binaries, if anyone knows of a good "file sharing*" service,
> I'm all ears.
>
> *: "File hosting", files I can make public via a URL.
Hint: Don't put all your files in one basket. Spread them around. A URL is a
URL.
Everybody and their brother is offering free space on the Internet these
days. Picassa gives you more space for free than you could possibly use for
photos, for example.
http://picasa.google.com/features.html#utm_medium=embed&utm_source=pwalogin
Badongo is another one that gives lots of free space.
But, you can't get the IP numbers of people who download them. But, who
really needs that anyway?
--
Gregory Hall
Lookout
Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm
I've looked at the PREMIUM pricing for these “file hosting” sites
( e.g. rapidshare.com and hotfile.com ) and none of them
are half as good as FastMail ( according to me, of course ).
FastMail should limit downloads per IP address per file per day;
I'm working with them ( the developers ) right now.
Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm
As I said Jack, Glorb has an unfiltered version ( which I use ).
Glorb allowed this ( 7·deep ) cross·post ( from me ):
Alt.Astronomy, Sci.Physics, Alt.Free.Newsservers,
Misc.Health.Alternative, Alt.True-Crime,
Alt.Support.Attn-Deficit, Rec.Running
www.Google.COM/groups?selm=_%40Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Dec22.9.59am.5o
[ news:_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Dec22.9.59am.5o ]
I don't do that often ( I was drinking at the time );
so I might not be a good “case study” for that.
I've “criticized liberals” ( AND right·wingers );
so I don't see how that'd be a problem.
I've also said NICE things about both the left and the right;
so I might not be the best case study there.
Tom Potter
It is interesting to see how my pal
"Klaus Schadenfreude" operates.
Weeks ago, Klaus supported the claim
that Google invented the search engine,
and when I pointed out that
search engines had been around for may years, and that
I seem to have made the first public announcement of
the invention of a "data mining" engine back in 1989,
long before Google was on the scene,
( And in fact a few years before IBM and others
began picking up the "data mining" approach.)
and provided the URL that pointed to
my copyright of this "data mining" search engine,
"Klaus Schadenfreude" starts trying to make the case
that I claimed to have invented Internet searching,
when the fact of the matter is that I simply
pointed out that my Copyright points out
that my "data mining" search engine
could and was being used for not only local searches,
but also for retrieving remote data and adding it to
the local database.
There is nothing special about Internet searching
CompuServe, The Source, Genie, Delphi, AOL, Prodigy, etc.
were providing searches long before Google came along,
and long before Google,
companies like DejaNews, etc.
harvested Internet data, and allowed users
to "mine" their database.
No doubt Google has done a good job in
harvesting the most information,
and presenting it quickly in a nice format,
BUT
the fact of the matter is
that Google is a threat to free speech,
as they have a race/religion bias,
"cook the books" on searches,
allow some groups to "Google Bomb",
collect all kinds of information on their users,
shut off access to data they don't want the public exposed to,
prevent some people from using their services,
smear folks without explanation or a fair hearing,
AND the most obvious indication that
Google is here "TO SERVE MAN"
is the fact that they are hijacking Usenet,
the last refuge of free speech in the world.
If you want to know what the end game is
do a Wikipedia search on "To serve man".
Tom Potter
"Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> wrote in message
news:3dda4p....@news.alt.net...
There are many web sites that provide free file upload and selective
sharing, in fact some of them even pay you based
on the number of downloads of your files.
I suggest that Jeff Relf should get an account on one of these sites,
and play the old "Don't throw me in the briar patch game."
and encourage Net Policemen to attack the site
as it would generate income for him.
Here's a couple of examples.
http://filefactory.com/
http://www.ziddu.com/
"Earn Money with Free Filehosting Service Ziddu
Ziddu is unusual in that it has no premium account option.
It is one of the few free file hosting services that is truly free to use,
both as an uploader and a downloader.
Ziddu has a 200MB file size limit on uploaded content,
and pays a flat fee of $10 for every 10000 unique downloads,
payable through PayPal or Moneybookers."
The following URL reviews a number of free file sharing web sites.
http://alternativeto.net/desktop/evernote/?profile=online&platform=online
Evernote OCR's graphic files
and you to find, text information in handwritten notes, pictures, etc.
I use Evernote to store pictures of signs
that contain information that I want to find later.
It's great for storing road signs, bus stops, train stations,
park information, etc.
Klaus Schadenfreude
>It is interesting to see how my pal
>"Klaus Schadenfreude" operates.
Isn't it, though? I use verifiable facts, and you use hate speech,
fantasy, and outright lies.
>Weeks ago, Klaus supported the claim
>that Google invented the search engine,
No, I did nothing of the kind. Another lie on the part of "Tom
Potter."
>and when I pointed out that
>search engines had been around for may years, and that
>I seem to have made the first public announcement of
>the invention of a "data mining" engine back in 1989,
>long before Google was on the scene,
>( And in fact a few years before IBM and others
>began picking up the "data mining" approach.)
Yet, as I have proven, when ANY history of the internet search engine
is perused, the name "Tom Potter" is NOT mentioned, not even in
passing.
"Tom Potter" will probably say this is a Jewish plot. [chuckle]
>There is nothing special about Internet searching
>CompuServe, The Source, Genie, Delphi, AOL, Prodigy, etc.
>were providing searches long before Google came along,
Note that Potter continues his fantasy that someone claimed Google was
the first search engine. This is hot "Potter" operates-- create the
lie, and keep repeating it until someone believes it.
Unfortunately, I'm not some frightened little European Jew that Potter
can frighten by waving his swastika.
>the fact of the matter is
>that Google is a threat to free speech,
Google has in no way limited your speech. You, being a man of dishonor
and lies, abrogated your agreement with them.
>as they have a race/religion bias,
hate crime bias
>"cook the books" on searches,
Unsubstantiated lie.
>allow some groups to "Google Bomb",
Still waiting for this definition
>collect all kinds of information on their users,
See contract you agreed to
>shut off access to data they don't want the public exposed to,
Give one, solitary example of this. You can't.
>prevent some people from using their services,
See contract which you agreed to.
>smear folks without explanation or a fair hearing,
Smearing folks? That's what I'm doing to you, Potter. You're a liar.
I've proven it time and again. There's nothing you can do about it.
Because it's fact.
___________________
Gro...@jeffrelf.f-m.fm
Re: http://www.evernote.com/about/premium/
I don't want ads, I go PREMIUM·plan only.
EverNote costs 45 dollars per YEAR ( vs. FastMail's 20 dollars ).
Evernote says nothing about FTP, I require FTP.
The 20 dollars includes FastMail's “Sub·Addressing” ( eMail ):
http://www.fastmail.fm/help/features_plus_addressing_and_subdomain_addressing.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_address#Sub-addressing
Eric Gisse used an array of proxies from third·world countries;
FastMail had never before seen this kind of BANDWIDTH·ATTACK.
FastMail doesn't yet have protections in place for this but
they've armed me with an additional 20 giga·bytes of bandwidth.
Gisse is paying for his proxies ( by bandwith ), I imagine;
it probably cost him 80 bucks... so I doubt he'll try it again.
My web·site comes on·line again at 4 pm today, Seattle time.
( midnight London time )
Tom Potter
> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <xpriv...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
>>It is interesting to see how my pal
>>"Klaus Schadenfreude" operates.
>
> Isn't it, though? I use verifiable facts, and you use hate speech,
> fantasy, and outright lies.
>
>>Weeks ago, Klaus supported the claim
>>that Google invented the search engine,
>
> No, I did nothing of the kind.
> Another lie on the part of "Tom Potter."
As can be seen from the following posts,
"Klaus Schadenfreude" rushed in to support
zzbunker's claim that Google invented the search engine,
or more likely, as he has a serious inferority complex,
he was trying to stroke his ego
by taking shots at someone he feels inferior to.
zzbunker posted:
============
><zzbunker*netscape.net> wrote in message
>news:7c029f28-51b9-4a09-8d97-bc30109bcc45*f16g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
>On May 16, 6:22 am, "Tom Potter" <tdp1...*yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Usenet, is a worldwide distributed Internet discussion system.
>> The difference between a BBS or web forum and Usenet is
>> the **absence of** a central server and **dedicated administrator**.
>>
>> It is sad to see that Google is making a strong effort to inhibit free
>> speech by HIJACKING Usenet,
>> integrating it into the Web and exposing the masses only to information
>> played through Google's race/religion biased filter.
>>
>> In other words, Google intends to be the **administrator** of all data
>> folks are exposed to.
>>
>> Note that after Google HIJACKED much of Usenet,
>> they made it difficult for truth seekers to access the posts
>> of posters who posted truths Google didn't want the public to be exposed
>> to,
>
> Google invented what's called a Search Engine, it doesn't
> have much to do with usenet for the most part, so that's
> why they called it Google Groups,
I replied
======
First off,
Google didn't invent the search engine.
I copyrighted the first search engine over 20 years ago,
before the Google boys were in college,
as they didn't patent software in those days,
and I used it for years to index and access
all of the data associated with my businesses.
Secondly, regarding your assertion that
Google groups does not
"have much to do with usenet for the most part.."
I see that you are posting from Google Groups,
and I dare say that you read Usenet articles,
and post, as you did here, using Google Groups.
Answer this question:
"Why is a Google Groups needed,
when a free and open and uncensored Usenet
is already in place?"
Usenet is the last refuge of truth and honesty,
and Google is working hard to co-op Usenet
and "cook the books" on Usenet,
as they have on the Web.
"Klaus Schadenfreude" jumped in
=======================
05-17-2009, 01:37 PM
Klaus Schadenfreude
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Goggle is hijacking Usenet
In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <tdp1001*yahoo.com> wrote:
>I copyrighted the first search engine over 20 years ago,
>before the Google boys were in college,
>as they didn't patent software in those days,
You're already a proven liar, now you think you're Al Gore? [chuckle]
=============
I then posted the URL pointing to my copyright
which seems to be the first public disclosure
of a "data mining" search engine,
the search technology that is used to search the Internet,
and that is used by Google.
U.S. Copyright
http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwe...&CNT=25&HIST=1
Type of Work: Computer File
Registration Number / Date:
TXu000400812 / 1989-09-11
Title: Operations management system.
Description: printout.
Copyright Claimant:
Thomas D. Potter
If anyone knows of an earlier disclosure of a
"data mining" search engine,
I'd like to see proof of it.
=========================
Although I copyrighted the first "data mining"
system in 1989, and had been using it for several years before that,
( You couldn't patent computer programs in those days.)
note that I had never mentioned this fact in years of posting,
as I am interested in promoting honesty, free speech,
and life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for ALL people,
and in forcing debates on serious issues,
and am not interested in claiming credit for anything
nor getting into pissing wars with polecats,
who use "hate speech", personal attacks, and "lies",
and assert that sophisticated things beyond their
experience and comprehension are "fantasies".
Note that the only reason I mentioned that
I made the first public disclosure of what has come
to be known as "data mining" is that I had been
trying to call attention to the threat that Google
represents to society, and I posted this fact
to dispel one of the Urban Legends propagated by
Google and their worshippers.
Klaus Schadenfreude
>
>"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:2adpj5h16duauj0gn...@4ax.com...
>> In talk.politics.guns "Tom Potter" <xpriv...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>
>>>It is interesting to see how my pal
>>>"Klaus Schadenfreude" operates.
>>
>> Isn't it, though? I use verifiable facts, and you use hate speech,
>> fantasy, and outright lies.
>>
>>>Weeks ago, Klaus supported the claim
>>>that Google invented the search engine,
>>
>> No, I did nothing of the kind.
>> Another lie on the part of "Tom Potter."
>
>As can be seen from the following posts,
>"Klaus Schadenfreude" rushed in to support
>zzbunker's claim that Google invented the search engine,
Once again, "Potter" is either (a) stupid, (b) lying, or (c) both
stupid and lying.
>I copyrighted the first search engine over 20 years ago,
Once again, "Potter" is (a) lying, (b) insane, or (c) an insane liar.
Nobody anywhere has ever mentioned Potter's name in the history if the
internet search engine.
>Answer this question:
Why do you demand questions be answered when you refuse to answer
questions put to you?
>"Why is a Google Groups needed,
>when a free and open and uncensored Usenet
>is already in place?"
Obviously "Potter," who claims to be an expert on the internet, has
absolutely no idea what "Google Groups" is, its function, purpose, or
reason for being.
See him admit an "uncensored Usenet already exists" yet he complains
about Google "censoring" it. Perhaps during one of his brief lucid
spells he could tell us how Google censors the uncensored.