Science or Religion ?
socratus
Religion tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
That is the truth.
So, what is Religion?
Religion is the poor man's philosophy.
Modern Physics tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
That is the truth.
For example: One Galaxy can eat another Galaxy.
#
Cosmic cannibalising:
Images show one galaxy engulfing another
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/cosmic-cannibalising-images-show-one-galaxy-engulfing-another-1780652.html
#
The Discovery of one Galaxy "Attacking" Another
http://www.astronomyexpert.co.uk/the-recent-discovery-of-one-galaxy-attacking-another.html
. . .. etc
So, what is Physics?
Physics is the poor man's philosophy.
== .
What to do?
I think we must answer to the simple classic question:
what did come first the chicken or the egg ?
If somebody didn’t understand this question, I will ask it simpler:
What was before Vacuum or Gravity ?
Does Gravity exist in Vacuum or vice versa?
Why I ask these questions.
Because the Universe ( as a whole ) is Two- Measured,
there are two Worlds: Vacuum and Gravity.
=== .
Israel Socratus.
George Hammond
<isr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Religion tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
>
>Modern Physics tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
>== .
>What to do?
>Israel Socratus.
>
>
[Hammond]
Anyone calling himself Israel ought to know better.
The average person including physicists do not need to
know what God is. The fact that they make ignorant
statements about God is just as acceptable as the average
man making ignorant statements about quantum field theory.
For instance a physicist told me yesterday that there
can't possibly be a God because animals are designed to eat
each other. What kind of a God would design a world in
which lions are supposed to devour Zebras alive?
Well this is simply ignorance and stupidity on the part
of the physicist who has no idea what God is. The fact is
the phenomenon of God is caused by the Secular Trend Human
Growth Deficit and if there were no such thing we would be
God living in a perfect world. Furthermore, with a zero
growth deficit neither humans nor animals would be capable
of experiencing fear, terror or even pain. So therefore
getting devoured by a lion actually presents no problem
whatsoever.
But the problem is there is a secular trend growth
deficit which causes our brains to be incompletely grown
which causes the phenomenon of God. It also causes us to
experience the fear, terror, and excruciating physical pain.
Now because the average person including the average
physicist does not know or understand this he walks around
saying to himself like Richard Dawkins that "there can't
possibly be a God". But that's sheer ignorant stupidity
just as If the average man walks around saying "there can't
possibly be such a thing as a Black Hole".
To sum it all up, we are all specialists in this world and
unless you are a specialist in religion and theology you
simply do not know what God is, and you will have to consult
someone like me if you want to find out!
PS: I am also a physicist!
========================================
GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
Primary site
http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond
Mirror site
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=======================================
George Hammond
<dirkvand...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
>socratus wrote:
>> Religion tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
>> Modern Physics tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
>
>You've got it somewhat upside down.
>Religion is the uneducated man's physics.
>
>Dirk Vdm
>
[Hammond]
Na, YOU got it backwards Van de Mortal:
Physics is the poor man's religion!
Religion is the rich man's physics!
The average person including physicists do not need to
know what God is. The fact that they make ignorant
statements about God is just as acceptable as the average
man making ignorant statements about quantum field theory.
For instance a physicist told me yesterday that there
can't possibly be a God because animals are designed to eat
each other. What kind of a God would design a world in
which lions are supposed to devour Zebras alive?
Well this is simply ignorance and stupidity on the part
of the physicist who has no idea what God is. The fact is
the phenomenon of God is caused by the Secular Trend Human
Growth Deficit and if there were no such thing we would be
God living in a perfect world. Furthermore, with a zero
growth deficit neither humans nor animals would be capable
of experiencing fear, terror or even pain. So therefore
getting devoured by a lion actually presents no problem
whatsoever.
But the problem is there is a secular trend growth
deficit which causes our brains to be incompletely grown
which causes the phenomenon of God. It also causes us to
experience fear, terror, and excruciating physical pain.
Now because the average person including the average
physicist does not know or understand this he walks around
saying to himself like Richard Dawkins that "there can't
possibly be a God". But that's sheer ignorant stupidity
just as If the average man walks around saying "there can't
possibly be such a thing as a Black Hole".
To sum it all up, we are all specialists in this world and
unless you are a specialist in religion and theology you
simply do not know what God is, and you will have to consult
someone like me if you want to find out!
PS: I am also a physicist!
But not to worry. Hammond has discovered and published
the world's first scientific proof of God which is in fact a
simple scientific explanation of what God is. Therefore,
even physicists can now sit down and read a simple
scientific explanation of what God is in 15 minutes and be
privileged to what hitherto has been an esoteric and erudite
body of knowledge only privy to the most powerful and
privileged members of our society. Enjoy!
George Hammond
<relat...@rest.com> wrote:
>>
>> Religion tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
>> Modern Physics tells us nothing but fables and fantasies!
>
[Hammond]
Yeup....:
Physics is the poor man's Religion
Religion is the rich man's Physics
Miguel Alberto
created nor destroyed". In 1John1:5 it says, "God is light", light is
energy, God is energy.
We have consciousness. Generally, consciousness is caused by the
interference of energy by matter, therefore, energy is conscious. Energy
is God.
In E=Mc², E is the energy released, that was maintaining the
conformation of energy known as matter and information.
Matter is not energy, it is the conformation of energy,
information. We are just information, if we were energy we would never
sleep.
The fact that humanity is a mess, we need a divine savior, and
there is nothing like Christianity, necessitates the divinity of Jesus
Christ.
Uncle Al
>
> Science or Religion ?
[snip crap]
1) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/reality.png
2) idiot
> what did come first the chicken or the egg?
The egg. A proto-chicken laid the first chicken.
> Does Gravity exist in Vacuum or vice versa?
idiot
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
Sam Wormley
> Does Gravity exist in Vacuum or vice versa?
Ref: Hartle, "Gravity: An Introduction to Einstein's General Relativity",
Addison Wesley (2003)
"A few properties of the gravitational interaction that help explain when
gravity is important can already be seen from the gravitational force law
F_grav = G m_1 m_2 / r_12^2
o Gravity is a universal interaction in Newtonian theory between all mass, and,
since E = mc^2, in relativistic gravity between all forms of energy.
o Gravity is unscreened. There are no negative gravitational charges to cancel
positive ones, and therefore it is not possible to shield (screen) the
gravitational interaction. Gravity is always attractive.
o Gravity is a long-range interaction. The Newtonian force law is a 1/r^2
interaction. There is no length scale that sets a range for gravitational
interactions as there is for the strong and weak interactions.
o Gravity is the weakest of the four fundamental interactions acting between
individual elementary particles at accessible energy scales. The ratio of
the gravitational attraction to the electromagnetic repulsion between two
protons separated by a distance r is
F_grav G m_p^2 / r^2 G m_p^2
-------- = -------------------- = ------------- ~ 10^-36
F_elec e^2 / (4 pi e_0 r^2) (e^2/4pi e_0)
where m_p is the mass of the proton and e is its charge.
These four facts explain a great deal about the role gravity plays in physical
phenomena. They explain, for example, why, although it is the weakest force,
gravity governs the organization of the universe on the largest distance
scales of astrophysics and cosmology. These distance scales are far beyond
the subatomic ranges of the strong and the weak interactions. Electromagnetic
interactions COULD be long range were there any large-scale objects with net
electric charge. But the universe is electrically neutral, and electromagnetic
forces are so much stronger than gravitational forces that any large-scale net
charge is quickly neutralized. Gravity is left to govern the structure of the
universe on the largest scales.
Aleph
sci.physics on Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:19:12 -0800, George Hammond <Nowhere1
@notspam.com> imparted these words of wisdom:
> [Hammond]
> Na, YOU got it backwards Van de Mortal:
>
> Physics is the poor man's religion!
> Religion is the rich man's physics!
>
Wow. I thought you were dead. Obviously just wishful thinking.
Seriously, how does someone with such serious mental illness as yourself
survive for so many years?
--
Aleph
This article was posted to USENET, please reply in that manner. Emails
to this account will be ignored.
George Hammond
<Usene...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>In article <saeqg5pj2dneq0pm4...@4ax.com>, sent to
>sci.physics on Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:19:12 -0800, George Hammond <Nowhere1
>@notspam.com> imparted these words of wisdom:
>
>> [Hammond]
>> Na, YOU got it backwards Van de Mortal:
>>
>> Physics is the poor man's religion!
>> Religion is the rich man's physics!
>>
>
>
>Wow. I thought you were dead. Obviously just wishful thinking.
>
>Seriously, how does someone with such serious mental illness as yourself
>survive for so many years?
>
>
[Hammond]
Seriously, how has a scumbag Lutheran like you survived
all these years walking around sporting a Jewish
name like Aleph .....eh cocksuk?
socratus
=== .
1.
The Big Bang.
Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter
(all elementary particles and all quarks and their
girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks, all kinds of
waves: electromagnetic, gravitational, muons…
gluons field ….. etc.) – was assembled in a ‘single point ‘
=== .
I don’t agree with the ‘big bang’ theory because nobody
knows how the ‘ big bang’ can change into ‘single point ‘
if Hawking’s radiation from ‘ black hole’ doesn’t give it
to happen.
2.
Most of elementary particles were got in artificial way,
using accelerators. This way, in my opinion, is mistaken.
=== .
In the Ancient Egypt people believed in many gods with
human body and animal’s head. They thought they really
existed. For me these new discovered elementary artificial
particles are similar to Egyptian’s gods because we cannot
meet them into any atom, in any physical, chemical, biological
processes on our Earth.
In the Ancient Greek the people believed that sphinxes and
centaurs really exist. Maybe now some geneticists can create
a centaur, but it will be Devil’s work. I am sorry to tell that,
but it seems to me, physicists, creating such elementary
artificial particles look like those ‘some geneticists’.
( The mad CERN’s way.
http://www.spacekb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/astronomy/13338/The-mad-CERN-s-project
).
=========== .
3.
Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, there was ‘ bin bang’.
And every particle appears with its own spin as derivative from
the Big Bang.
== .
I think the spin of quantum particle doesn’t come from
big bang, but it comes with ‘ virtual particle from Dirac’s sea’.
Why?
We have the real particle – electron. Nobody doubts
it is a real particle. But a strange thing happens when it
interacts with Vacuum. All its physical parameters become
infinite. Why? Is it possible? What is the reason?
#
The conditions of the ocean permitted to create different kinds
of fish. The terrestrial’s conditions permitted to create different
kinds of animals. And the ‘mixed’ conditions of water, earth
and air on Earth permitted to create, for example, birds, which
live and act in these three conditions.
And if we take Universe as a whole, it is Two- Measured:
close by Material ( Gravity) World exists Infinite Vacuum World.
The conditions in these two Worlds are different.
And when electron moves from Material (Gravity) World to the
Infinite Vacuum World its physical parameters changes.
" The law of conservation and transformation energy / mass"
is connected with electron’s transformation.
We know the electron is very important particle in our live.
It acts in Maxwell’s electrodynamics.
It acts in the atom.
But how electron acts in cell and in Outer space we don’t know.
We need time to understand this fact.
=== .
P.S.
Tell me what an electron is and I'll then tell you everything.
/ Somebody./
==== .
Another ‘ true’ Physical fables and fantasies:
The time that stretches and space that expands,
dark matter, dark energy, Higgs boson, quarks, gluons
and tachyons, axions and partons, qravitino , . . etc.
========== .
P.S.
"One thing I have learned in a long life:
that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive
and childlike - and yet it is the most precious thing we have."
/ Einstein./
This quote is correct, because, at last, only Physics can
logically explain us the Ultimate Nature of Reality.
==========.
Raymond Yohros
>
> Physics is the poor man's Religion
> Religion is the rich man's Physics
>
wrong
while religion asks the why?
science tells the how.
philosophy is in between
>
> For instance a physicist told me yesterday that there
> can't possibly be a God because animals are designed to eat
> each other. What kind of a God would design a world in
> which lions are supposed to devour Zebras alive?
> Well this is simply ignorance and stupidity on the part
> of the physicist who has no idea what God is. The fact is
> the phenomenon of God is caused by the Secular Trend Human
> Growth Deficit and if there were no such thing we would be
> God living in a perfect world. Furthermore, with a zero
> growth deficit neither humans nor animals would be capable
> of experiencing fear, terror or even pain. So therefore
> getting devoured by a lion actually presents no problem
> whatsoever.
>
wrong again
the animal kingdom was a gift from the designer to help
us understand more about the nature of species and
good and evil
the only way we can get closer to his way of thinking
is if we try to understand this gift in order to live in harmony.
r.y
BURT
Science cannot tell you who you are.
Mitch Raemsch
George Hammond
<isr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>In the Ancient Egypt people believed in many gods with
> human body and animal�s head. They thought they really
> existed.
>
>
[Hammond]
The ancient Egyptian people believed there were 12 major
demigods with human bodies and animal heads.
3000 years later Walt Disney discovered the same thing
and named them Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Porky pig, Bugs
Bunny, etc.... again human bodies with animal heads.
These 12 "gods" are nothing but human Personality types.
Mickey Spillane said it all when he said "there are only a
dozen different faces".
Today modern science (Hammond 1994) has discovered that
there are exactly 13 eigenvectors in all personality test
correlation matrices. This is modern hard scientific proof
that there are 13 personality types in the human race.
Moreover, Hammond has discovered WHY there are exactly 13
personality types. The brain is cleaved by three orthogonal
planes. Anatomical brain cleavage is CUBIC, and as any
elementary textbook will tell you a CUBE has precisely 13
symmetry axes. These cause the 13 eigenvectors of modern
Factor analysis in psychometry and result in exactly 13
different personality types in the human race. this is
PROVEN experimentally by the fact that the correlation
coefficients reconstruct exactly all 13 symmetry axes of a
CUBE. ACTUAL HARD SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTAL PROOF!
So the Egyptians, 3000 years ago, were absolutely
correct! the Greeks were also correct ( the 12 Olympic
gods), and so were the Romans who adopted the 12 Greek gods
and gave them Latin names.
Now when you factor the 13 axis cube to the fourth order,
you find only one single last final eigenvector. That turns
out to be caused by the secular trend in human growth, and
is without equivocation easily proven to be the God of the
Bible...The supreme god of monotheism has been proven
experimentally and theoretically to exist.
So, Hammond has discovered, proven and published the
world's first and only rigorous hard scientific proof of
God!
The Borg Queen
"George Hammond" <Nowh...@notspam.com> wrote in message
news:3altg591gs9sg51e2...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:22:23 -0800 (PST), socratus
> <isr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>In the Ancient Egypt people believed in many gods with
>> human body and animal's head. They thought they really
>> existed.
>>
>>
> [Hammond]
> The ancient Egyptian people believed there were 12 major
> demigods with human bodies and animal heads.
It depends what source you read, some say 12, some say 100,
some say there were thousands of Gods in ancient Egypt.
Same with Hinduism, the numbers of Gods there range from
three to literally millions.
Different sources say completely different things.
Even recent history disagrees between different sources.
Raymond Yohros
that is one of the most important aspect of religion.
to be a kind person. to love and not to hate.
but it is not reality.
religious intolerance has been the reason of
so much pain. that is the last thing the designer
wanted for us
r.y
BURT
>
> - Show quoted text -
We should find God in His design.
Mitch Raemsch
Raymond Yohros
his elegance its all over
all 3 forces and gravity acting as 1 at the bb and
d trinity of rgb light and 3d spatial perception
Aleph
<7nnrg51j96tcconpr...@4ax.com>, George Hammond sat down and
wrote the following words of wisdom:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:20:42 -0000, Aleph
> <Usene...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
>>Wow. I thought you were dead. Obviously just wishful thinking.
>>
>>Seriously, how does someone with such serious mental illness as yourself
>>survive for so many years?
>>
>>
> [Hammond]
> Seriously, how has a scumbag Lutheran like you survived
> all these years walking around sporting a Jewish
> name like Aleph .....eh cocksuk?
Awww you havent lost the art of foreplay have you? You say the nicest
things.
Sadly, your idea of science is completely batshit insane.
--
Aleph
This message was posted to usenet so please reply that way. Emails to
this account are very likely to be ignored.
zzbu...@netscape.net
> wrote the following words of wisdom:
>
> > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:20:42 -0000, Aleph
> > <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
> >>Wow. I thought you were dead. Obviously just wishful thinking.
>
> >>Seriously, how does someone with such serious mental illness as yourself
> >>survive for so many years?
>
> > [Hammond]
> > Seriously, how has a scumbag Lutheran like you survived
> > all these years walking around sporting a Jewish
> > name like Aleph .....eh cocksuk?
>
> Awww you havent lost the art of foreplay have you? You say the nicest
> things.
>
> Sadly, your idea of science is completely batshit insane.
A lot of it is like discussing internet with physicists and
mathematicians.
So, the real engineers are constantly telling physicsits that we
understand
that you are extreme sticklers for detalis, but since you are
sticklers for elevator details,
you probably should stick to IBM, rather than engineering.
And constantly telling mathematicians, that we understand
mathematicians
are the ultimate authorities on computers, but since your are the
ultimate authorities on
digital computers, please issues your ultimatum to 7-11, rather
than people with brains,
atomic clock watches, UAVs, rapid prototyping, digital books, hdtv,
and a 21st Century.
Stamenin
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:22:23 -0800 (PST), socratus
>
> Mirror site
> http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
> HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto
> http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
> =======================================
All peoples believe in God because they possess the fear of death.
That is why we say that we are believers.
In science is valid the word I know, but many scientists don't care
to demonstrate that. The believers can freely continue to believe and
this does't maters. But when the scientists don't proove evidence
about their discoveries it maters because in that case they are liars.
BURT
>
> - Show quoted text -
Gravity is the only force with its own time or aether rate.
Mitch Raemsch
George Hammond
>[ Stamenin]
>All peoples believe in God because they possess the fear of death.
>That is why we say that we are believers.
> In science is valid the word I know, but many scientists don't care
>to demonstrate that. The believers can freely continue to believe and
>this does't maters. But when the scientists don't proove evidence
>about their discoveries it maters because in that case they are liars.
>
>
[Hammond]
Look, this is a discussion about SCIENCE and religion.
and I'm here to tell you that the world's first scientific
proof of God has been discovered.
I'm also here to tell you that it is imperative that
scientists find out what God is.
For 100 years we have allowed scientists to ignore God.
But today the situation has changed. Today a scientists
cannot afford not to know what God is. The reason is that
the scientific problems we face today can only be solved by
massive global cooperation among peoples of different races,
religions, and ideologies.
I'm talking about problems like:
The energy crisis
Global warming
The global water shortage
Global pandemics
World terrorism
Nuclear proliferation
All of these are SCIENTIFIC problems that can only be solved
by SCIENTISTS, but they can only be solved by international
cooperation.
Global cooperation, mass mobilization and international
unity are required to solve these major problems. And these
problems can only be solved by scientists who understood
that global unity depends upon a knowledge of religion and
psychology, and key to this a federal comprehension of the
scientific explanation of God.
THEREFORE IT IS IMPERITIVE that scientists be the FIRST
to know what God is, and to thoroughly comprehend the
scientific proof of God that has just been discovered, by
Modern science.
It has become more important for SCIENTISTS to know what
God is than it is for anyone else in society!
George Hammond
<Usene...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>On Thursday 26 November 2009 02:10, in
><7nnrg51j96tcconpr...@4ax.com>, George Hammond sat down and
>wrote the following words of wisdom:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:20:42 -0000, Aleph
>> <Usene...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Wow. I thought you were dead. Obviously just wishful thinking.
>>>
>>>Seriously, how does someone with such serious mental illness as yourself
>>>survive for so many years?
>>>
>>>
>> [Hammond]
>> Seriously, how has a scumbag Lutheran like you survived
>> all these years walking around sporting a Jewish
>> name like Aleph .....eh cocksuk?
>
>
>Sadly, your idea of science is completely batshit insane.
>
>
[Hammond]
You know what you're talking about. You got nothin to
say. Screw!
Dirk Van de moortel
(*) I have a quibble here, but I'm sure you're smart enough
to understand what I mean, so let's not go into it.
As always, - from where you are standing, your reply makes
almost (*) perfect sense.
I miss Stephen with his shiny glasses. Don't you?
Dirk Vdm
Dirk Van de moortel
06e1b3bc-0c15-4e5a...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com
> All i've got to say is if there is this all powerfull, all-loving
> being that made everything in this world then he must be one sick
> fuck! I mean this 'god' created kiddy porn, animals being eaten and
> devoured by other animals, a thousand diseases, deadly insests, wars
> and
> genocide and ugly people.
... and stupid people.
>
> So either god has a bad side and does what the fuck he wants with us,
> or this being is just not all-powerful and all-loving, if it even
> exists at all. Hmmm i know which i would rather believe: that would be
> the latter.
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Stuff/god.html
http://the-anointed-one.com/bbu84/biblicalstupidity/quotes.htm
Dirk Vdm
spiritual energy
God. If our world was perfect and free from any troubles, then maybe a
God would be unnecessary then. But since the world we live in is far
from perfect and has a lot of trouble, I believe God is our only hope
and humanity needs a God.
Anti Vigilante
> 2.
> Most of elementary particles were got in artificial way, using
> accelerators. This way, in my opinion, is mistaken. === .
STOP. CONTEXT SINGULARITY MALFUNCTION. EJECT EJECT EJECT! CRANIAL
MELTDOWN COMMENCING.
Go away. You have that incoherent natural vs artificial, reality vs
experiment pseudocritism. You can say it's contrived. In fact that's a
fantastic thing that our species can give substance to ideas through
tests. You cannot deny however that:
1. Those collisions imply astronomical (exceedingly high for the humor-
challenged) energies
2. That subparticles came out because of those energies (BIG HINT: THERE
IS ONLY MASS AND ENERGY IN PHYSICS - THE REST IS CONVERSATIONAL SUGAR)
3. That the Big Bang or "Nail biting to the finger"-ly Close Near Miss as
some call it, implies great energies.
4. That in fact models can be made from these observations.
5. That predictions have been proved by these observations.
6. That many of these experiments are based on a long string of such
proved predictions.
7. Which means quite a lot of already useful physics would disintegrate
if you above comment had any semblance of reasons.
So please go away or listen.
> In the Ancient Egypt people believed in many gods with
> human body and animal’s head. They thought they really existed. For me
> these new discovered elementary artificial
> particles are similar to Egyptian’s gods because we cannot meet them
> into any atom, in any physical, chemical, biological processes on our
> Earth.
The COLLIDER is A PHYSICAL PROCESS where you MEET them by IDENTIFYING
their TRACKS on the PHOTOFILM which is more LIKE RECOGNIZING the
DIFFERENCE between a BEAR's paw prints and a SASQUATCH. Now the latter
has yet to be discovered. But I for one DO BELIEVE in BEARS!
> In the Ancient Greek the people believed that sphinxes and centaurs
> really exist. Maybe now some geneticists can create a centaur, but it
> will be Devil’s work.
Wow accidental thread displacement. Watch out for that ditch.
I am sorry to tell that,
> but it seems to me, physicists, creating such elementary
> artificial particles look like those ‘some geneticists’.
How can anyone create something that is not real (IOW, impossible)?
GO AWAY OR LISTEN. Somebody please stop me from clawing the keys out of
my keyboard.
( The mad
> CERN’s way.
> http://www.spacekb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/astronomy/13338/The-mad-CERN-s-
project
> ).
> =========== .
> 3.
> Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, there was ‘ bin bang’. And
> every particle appears with its own spin as derivative from the Big
> Bang.
> == .
> I think the spin of quantum particle doesn’t come from big bang, but it
> comes with ‘ virtual particle from Dirac’s sea’.
> Why?
> We have the real particle – electron. Nobody doubts it is a real
> particle. But a strange thing happens when it interacts with Vacuum. All
> its physical parameters become
> infinite. Why? Is it possible? What is the reason?
> #
> The conditions of the ocean permitted to create different kinds of fish.
> The terrestrial’s conditions permitted to create different
> kinds of animals. And the ‘mixed’ conditions of water, earth
> and air on Earth permitted to create, for example, birds, which
> live and act in these three conditions.
You're an alchemist. Great as a spiritual philosophy, but last I heard
ole Isaac Newton didn't get far with it.
> And if we take Universe as a whole, it is Two- Measured: close by
> Material ( Gravity) World exists Infinite Vacuum World. The conditions
> in these two Worlds are different. And when electron moves from Material
> (Gravity) World to the Infinite Vacuum World its physical parameters
> changes. " The law of conservation and transformation energy / mass" is
> connected with electron’s transformation.
STOP. I'M GETTING THE TIMECUBE JITTERS.
> We know the electron is very important particle in our live. It acts in
> Maxwell’s electrodynamics. It acts in the atom.
Actually it's a meaningless particle beyond the fact that it can attract
or repel. 'Acts'? It has tentacles with which it pulls protons toward it?
ARE YOU SUCKING FERIOUS?
> But how electron acts in cell and in Outer space we don’t know.
Calling Parascientist Newton. This one here doesn't believe the rules up
there are the same as down here.
Do you still use Ptolemy's planetary orbits? Honestly.
I have to stop here. Maybe I'm too harsh. Maybe I'm expecting too much.
Listen, if the rules in space were different from those here, then there
would have to be a REASON (hence rules) above the realm of here and there
in which case that REASON is a set of rules which IS THE SAME here and
there.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
There is a FUNDAMENTAL CONTRADICTION in saying that the rules out there
are different from here. The very ESSENCE of RULES is the GOVERNING of
DIFFERENCES!
No more. I am scarred by your mutterings, knave.
We need
> time to understand this fact. === .
> P.S.
> Tell me what an electron is and I'll then tell you everything. /
> Somebody./
You stole that from Scott Adams' God's Debris, I think.
It's a paperclip. Does tricks when sitting on a magnet and either gets
stuck in other paperclips or bounces off them. Happy?
Ok my personal theory, it's an arrangement of energy where the substance
is in a hyper state which severely affects the surrounding area so that
when its brothers and cousins get near. So in that case it's microscopic
quicksand.
Newsflash: What, when, and where are for gossip columns. Who, how, and
why (aka motive, opportunity, and the murder weapon) is reality.
I don't particularly care what an electron is as long as it's a
consistently behaving entity which can explain phenomena. The rest is
tabloid fodder.
--
Fuck the Enlightenment! Viva la Renaissance!
Anti Vigilante
Wow, I gotta check that out. There's always room for a mistake, but Holy
Ed-Bernays-Is-An-A*****e Batman, that's some purty science right.
BURT
>
> - Show quoted text -
Religion is more important than science.
Mitch Raemsch
Mike Lepore
>I believe in God solely for the reason that I think humanity needs a
> God. If our world was perfect and free from any troubles, then maybe
> perfect and has a lot of trouble, I believe God is our only hope and
> humanity needs a God.
This is an example of the logical fallacy known as
argument from consequences:
The general form is:
"I would consider it unbearable if the proposition were not true,
therefore the proposition is true."
tadchem
wrote:
> I believe in God solely for the reason that I think humanity needs a
> God.
This does not establish the existence of any god. This merely
established your personal need to believe in a god.
Ave Caesar!
> If our world was perfect and free from any troubles, then maybe a
> God would be unnecessary then.
The *world* is perfect. It is the judgement of every man that the
world is imperfect, as a consequence of the fact that the world does
not do as any particular man wishes it to.
> But since the world we live in is far
> from perfect and has a lot of trouble,
...only in your opinion...
> I believe God is our only hope
> and humanity needs a God.
Try this on for size:
"My 'god' is perfectly fair, perfectly consistent, perfectly just,
perfectly impartial, perfectly patient, and overlooks nothing. My
'god' is physics. By studying physics I 'worship' my 'god'. By
running experiments I interrogate my 'god', and my 'god' speaks to me
with perfect truth, even if I occasionally misunderstand it, or if I
sometimes ask the wrong question. If I repeat the question, I still
get the same truthful answer. If someone else asks the same question,
the same answer is forthcoming. My meditation is called 'theory', my
prayer is called 'experimentation', and my doctrine is called
'empiricism.'"
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
Seon Ferguson
"tadchem" <tad...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Dec 2 2009, 1:57 pm, spiritual energy <solidst...@rocketmail.com>
> wrote:
>> I believe in God solely for the reason that I think humanity needs a
>> God.
>
Why just one God, why not bunch of Gods and Goddesses?
lottery nan
> "tadchem" <tadc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
Good question.
Because there must only one God right here.
Nan
Seon Ferguson
"lottery nan" <lotteryp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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But how do you know for sure? Why can't there be 2 or 3 God's?
duke
ONly one ALLmighty.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
J. Clarke
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:11:55 +1100, "Seon Ferguson"
> <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "lottery nan" <lotteryp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:2d15005f-43a3-4652...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jan 8, 12:19 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "tadchem" <tadc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:5339358c-4c4b-4940...@d7g2000vbs.googlegroups.com...>
>>>> On Dec 2 2009, 1:57 pm, spiritual energy
>>>> <solidst...@rocketmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I believe in God solely for the reason that I think humanity
>>>>>> needs a God.
>>>>
>>>> Why just one God, why not bunch of Gods and Goddesses?
>>>
>>> Good question.
>>> Because there must only one God right here.
>>> Nan
>>
>> But how do you know for sure? Why can't there be 2 or 3 God's?
>
> ONly one ALLmighty.
You refer, of course, to His Noodliness.
Seon Ferguson
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:11:55 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"lottery nan" <lotteryp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:2d15005f-43a3-4652...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jan 8, 12:19 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "tadchem" <tadc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:5339358c-4c4b-4940...@d7g2000vbs.googlegroups.com...>
>>>> On Dec 2 2009, 1:57 pm, spiritual energy <solidst...@rocketmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >> I believe in God solely for the reason that I think humanity needs a
>>>> >> God.
>>>>
>>>> Why just one God, why not bunch of Gods and Goddesses?
>>>
>>> Good question.
>>> Because there must only one God right here.
>>> Nan
>>
>>But how do you know for sure? Why can't there be 2 or 3 God's?
>
> ONly one ALLmighty.
>
But how do we know? All we have is faith. And yeah some sort of higher power
had to create the universe. But we have no idea what he is like so we just
have faith in it's "prophets" and faith that the people reported the
prophets accurately.
lottery nan
Because there are other Gods somewhere else.Some of them are not fully
woken up yet,some are half awakening.
Nan