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Desertphile
Apr 22, 2013, 5:14:06 PM4/22/13
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How the burning of fossil fuels was linked to a warming world in 1938
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2013/apr/22/guy-callendar-climate-fossil-fuels
This month marks the 75th anniversary of Guy Callendar's landmark
scientific paper on anthropogenic climate change
English engineer Guy Stewart Callendar who expanded on the work
Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius and developed the theory called
Callendar effect that linked rising carbon dioxide concentrations in
the atmosphere to global temperature. Photograph: University of East
Anglia Archives
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/qj.49706427503/abstract
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10.1002/%28ISSN%291477-870X
Seventy-five years ago this month an amateur weather-watcher from West
Sussex published a landmark paper in the Quarterly Journal of the
Royal Meteorological Society directly linking the burning of fossil
fuels to the warming of the Earth's atmosphere.
Guy Callendar was a successful steam engineer by trade, but in his
spare time he was a keen meteorologist. In April 1938, his paper, "The
artificial production of carbon dioxide and its influence on
temperature" (pdf), which built on the earlier work of John Tyndall
and Svante Arrhenius, was published with little fanfare or impact. It
was only in the proceeding decades that the true significance of his
conclusions would be heralded.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/qj.49706427503/pdf
To mark the anniversary, two modern-day climatologists have published
a co-authored paper (pdf) in the same journal celebrating not just his
legacy, but also illustrating with modern techniques and data just how
accurate Callendar's calculations proved to be.
http://www.met.reading.ac.uk/~ed/home/hawkins_jones_2013_Callendar.pdf
Dr Ed Hawkins of the University of Reading's National Centre for
Atmospheric Science, who co-authored the paper with Prof Phil Jones at
the University of East Anglia, describes why Callendar is so
significant to the development of climate science:
In hindsight, Callendar's contribution was fundamental. He is still
relatively unknown, but in terms of the history of climate science,
his paper is a classic. He was the first scientist to discover that
the planet had warmed by collating temperature measurements from
around the globe, and suggested that this warming was partly related
to man-made carbon dioxide emissions…People were sceptical about some
of Callendar's results, partly because the build-up of CO2 in the
atmosphere was not very well known and because his estimates for the
warming caused by CO2 were quite simplistic by modern standards. It
was only in the 1950s, when improved instruments showed more precisely
how water and CO2 absorbed radiation, that we reached a better
understanding of its importance. Scientists at the time also couldn't
really believe that humans could impact such a large system as the
climate – a problem that climate science still encounters from some
people today, despite the compelling evidence to the contrary.
Hawkins has also written a blog post about his new Callendar paper,
which delves deeper into why Callendar's findings were not immediately
acted upon, or even discussed until decades later:
Doubts in the role of CO2 remained, partly because the world did not
warm further – in fact land temperatures fell slightly until around
1975, before the warming resumed. This temperature plateau is very
likely due to increased levels of particulates (or 'aerosols') in the
atmosphere reflecting solar radiation back into space. Ironically,
these aerosols are also the product of fossil fuel burning and strict
regulations were imposed in the developed world on their emissions in
the 1960s and 1970s which allowed the warming from carbon dioxide to
emerge again. Aerosol emissions from the developing world may also
have played a role in the temperature plateau since around 2000.
Here is the illustration produced by Hawkins and Jones to show how
Callendar's findings, published in 1938 and updated in 1961, match a
modern-day temperature reconstruction (CRUTEM4) of global land
temperatures for the period 1850-2010.
Leo blog about climatologist Guy Stewart Callendar Comparing
historical reconstructions of near-global land temperatures using
CRUTEM4 (black, Jones et al. 2012) with Callendar (1938) (red) and
Callendar (1961) (blue), using a reference period of 1880-1935. The
CRUTEM4 estimates are for 60?S-60?N (to accord with Callendar’s
series), with grey shading representing the 95% uncertainty. Image: Ed
Hawkins and Phil D. Jones
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/qj.49706427503/abstract
Callendar's original paper can be read in full online. Of particular
interest – beyond his workings, of course – is the peer-review
"discussion" at the end between various professors and Callendar. You
really get the sense that Callendar was viewed as a naïve amateur in
this field, which possibly contributed to why his conclusions weren't
fully absorbed until the 1960s.
Earlier today, Hawkins tweeted part of Callendar's hand-drawn graph
showing land temperatures rising against the mean during the period
1880-1935 set against the "CO2 effect".
--
Nemo me impune lacessit.
"Let me put it this way, ['lord' Monckton is] the type of guy that masturbates
while looking at himself in the mirror." -- voicubogdan84
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2013/apr/22/guy-callendar-climate-fossil-fuels
This month marks the 75th anniversary of Guy Callendar's landmark
scientific paper on anthropogenic climate change
English engineer Guy Stewart Callendar who expanded on the work
Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius and developed the theory called
Callendar effect that linked rising carbon dioxide concentrations in
the atmosphere to global temperature. Photograph: University of East
Anglia Archives
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/qj.49706427503/abstract
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10.1002/%28ISSN%291477-870X
Seventy-five years ago this month an amateur weather-watcher from West
Sussex published a landmark paper in the Quarterly Journal of the
Royal Meteorological Society directly linking the burning of fossil
fuels to the warming of the Earth's atmosphere.
Guy Callendar was a successful steam engineer by trade, but in his
spare time he was a keen meteorologist. In April 1938, his paper, "The
artificial production of carbon dioxide and its influence on
temperature" (pdf), which built on the earlier work of John Tyndall
and Svante Arrhenius, was published with little fanfare or impact. It
was only in the proceeding decades that the true significance of his
conclusions would be heralded.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/qj.49706427503/pdf
To mark the anniversary, two modern-day climatologists have published
a co-authored paper (pdf) in the same journal celebrating not just his
legacy, but also illustrating with modern techniques and data just how
accurate Callendar's calculations proved to be.
http://www.met.reading.ac.uk/~ed/home/hawkins_jones_2013_Callendar.pdf
Dr Ed Hawkins of the University of Reading's National Centre for
Atmospheric Science, who co-authored the paper with Prof Phil Jones at
the University of East Anglia, describes why Callendar is so
significant to the development of climate science:
In hindsight, Callendar's contribution was fundamental. He is still
relatively unknown, but in terms of the history of climate science,
his paper is a classic. He was the first scientist to discover that
the planet had warmed by collating temperature measurements from
around the globe, and suggested that this warming was partly related
to man-made carbon dioxide emissions…People were sceptical about some
of Callendar's results, partly because the build-up of CO2 in the
atmosphere was not very well known and because his estimates for the
warming caused by CO2 were quite simplistic by modern standards. It
was only in the 1950s, when improved instruments showed more precisely
how water and CO2 absorbed radiation, that we reached a better
understanding of its importance. Scientists at the time also couldn't
really believe that humans could impact such a large system as the
climate – a problem that climate science still encounters from some
people today, despite the compelling evidence to the contrary.
Hawkins has also written a blog post about his new Callendar paper,
which delves deeper into why Callendar's findings were not immediately
acted upon, or even discussed until decades later:
Doubts in the role of CO2 remained, partly because the world did not
warm further – in fact land temperatures fell slightly until around
1975, before the warming resumed. This temperature plateau is very
likely due to increased levels of particulates (or 'aerosols') in the
atmosphere reflecting solar radiation back into space. Ironically,
these aerosols are also the product of fossil fuel burning and strict
regulations were imposed in the developed world on their emissions in
the 1960s and 1970s which allowed the warming from carbon dioxide to
emerge again. Aerosol emissions from the developing world may also
have played a role in the temperature plateau since around 2000.
Here is the illustration produced by Hawkins and Jones to show how
Callendar's findings, published in 1938 and updated in 1961, match a
modern-day temperature reconstruction (CRUTEM4) of global land
temperatures for the period 1850-2010.
Leo blog about climatologist Guy Stewart Callendar Comparing
historical reconstructions of near-global land temperatures using
CRUTEM4 (black, Jones et al. 2012) with Callendar (1938) (red) and
Callendar (1961) (blue), using a reference period of 1880-1935. The
CRUTEM4 estimates are for 60?S-60?N (to accord with Callendar’s
series), with grey shading representing the 95% uncertainty. Image: Ed
Hawkins and Phil D. Jones
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/qj.49706427503/abstract
Callendar's original paper can be read in full online. Of particular
interest – beyond his workings, of course – is the peer-review
"discussion" at the end between various professors and Callendar. You
really get the sense that Callendar was viewed as a naïve amateur in
this field, which possibly contributed to why his conclusions weren't
fully absorbed until the 1960s.
Earlier today, Hawkins tweeted part of Callendar's hand-drawn graph
showing land temperatures rising against the mean during the period
1880-1935 set against the "CO2 effect".
--
Nemo me impune lacessit.
"Let me put it this way, ['lord' Monckton is] the type of guy that masturbates
while looking at himself in the mirror." -- voicubogdan84
Desertphile
Apr 23, 2013, 12:08:04 PM4/23/13
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--
Nemo me impune lacessit.
scientific truth." --Prof. Richard Feynman, 1963, The Feynman Lectures on Physics
benj
Apr 23, 2013, 8:22:56 PM4/23/13
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On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:08:04 -0700, Desertphile wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:14:06 -0700, Desertphile
> <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
>> This month marks the 75th anniversary of Guy Callendar's landmark
>> scientific paper on anthropogenic climate change
>>
>> English engineer Guy Stewart Callendar who expanded on the work Swedish
>> scientist Svante Arrhenius and developed the theory called Callendar
>> effect that linked rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the
>> atmosphere to global temperature. Photograph: University of East Anglia
> <crickets>
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:14:06 -0700, Desertphile
> <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
>> This month marks the 75th anniversary of Guy Callendar's landmark
>> scientific paper on anthropogenic climate change
>>
>> English engineer Guy Stewart Callendar who expanded on the work Swedish
>> scientist Svante Arrhenius and developed the theory called Callendar
>> effect that linked rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the
>> atmosphere to global temperature. Photograph: University of East Anglia
Obviously you have to answer your own posts to get someone to pay
attention to your bullshit.
Here is the "Callendar effect" in action!
http://www.mrk-inc.com/users/bspam/40-70GISS.htm
We have THIRTY YEARS of falling temperatures while there are THIRTY YEARS
(1940-1970) of rising Anthropogenic CO2~
1938 was obviously a good year for this theory to start! Like all "global
warming" nonsense it TOTALLY failed to predict the future. In fact failed
to do so for THIRTY YEARS.
Nobody responds to you because you are a science ignoramus and total
idiot!
1treePetrifiedForestLane
Apr 23, 2013, 11:41:28 PM4/23/13
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haha, burnt fossils.
Desertphile
Apr 24, 2013, 12:38:56 PM4/24/13
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On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 00:22:56 GMT, benj <be...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:08:04 -0700, Desertphile <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:14:06 -0700, Desertphile
> > <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
> >
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:08:04 -0700, Desertphile <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:14:06 -0700, Desertphile
> > <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > How the burning of fossil fuels was linked to a warming world in 1938
> > >
> > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2013/apr/22/guy-callendar-climate-fossil-fuels
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2013/apr/22/guy-callendar-climate-fossil-fuels
> > >
> > > This month marks the 75th anniversary of Guy Callendar's landmark
> > > scientific paper on anthropogenic climate change
> > >
> > > English engineer Guy Stewart Callendar who expanded on the work
> > > Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius and developed the theory called
> > > Callendar effect that linked rising carbon dioxide concentrations in
> > > the atmosphere to global temperature. Photograph: University of East
> > > scientific paper on anthropogenic climate change
> > >
> > > English engineer Guy Stewart Callendar who expanded on the work
> > > Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius and developed the theory called
> > > Callendar effect that linked rising carbon dioxide concentrations in
> > > the atmosphere to global temperature. Photograph: University of East
> > <crickets>
> Obviously you have to answer your own posts to get someone to pay
> attention to your bullshit.
The laws of physics is "bullshit?" LOL! When did that happen?
> Obviously you have to answer your own posts to get someone to pay
> attention to your bullshit.
1treePetrifiedForestLane
Apr 24, 2013, 10:15:17 PM4/24/13
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guy burns fossils -- or tries to.
Desertphile
Apr 25, 2013, 6:38:56 PM4/25/13
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On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:38:56 -0700, Desertphile
> > > > really get the sense that Callendar was viewed as a na�ve amateur in
> > > > this field, which possibly contributed to why his conclusions weren't
> > > > fully absorbed until the 1960s.
> > > >
> > > > Earlier today, Hawkins tweeted part of Callendar's hand-drawn graph
> > > > showing land temperatures rising against the mean during the period
> > > > 1880-1935 set against the "CO2 effect".
>
> > > <crickets>
>
> > Obviously you have to answer your own posts to get someone to pay
> > attention to your bullshit.
>
> The laws of physics is "bullshit?" LOL! When did that happen?
That's what I thought. Heh!
> > > > fully absorbed until the 1960s.
> > > >
> > > > Earlier today, Hawkins tweeted part of Callendar's hand-drawn graph
> > > > showing land temperatures rising against the mean during the period
> > > > 1880-1935 set against the "CO2 effect".
>
> > > <crickets>
>
> > Obviously you have to answer your own posts to get someone to pay
> > attention to your bullshit.
>
> The laws of physics is "bullshit?" LOL! When did that happen?
1treePetrifiedForestLane
Apr 25, 2013, 11:46:39 PM4/25/13
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this is the whole genesis of the paradigm, or
"type-one error," of the metaphor of the glass "house,"
circa 1896. still,
the deployment of such actual (model) glass houses, a)
as an Eaaarth-enveloping dome, or b)
as a whole bunch of domes on one longitude,
all the way to both poles, may be instructive, or
destructive of teh metaphor.
I say, certainly destructive, but I'm not a programmer.
> > > > > and Svante Arrhenius, was published with little fanfare
> That's what I thought, "Duh?"
"type-one error," of the metaphor of the glass "house,"
circa 1896. still,
the deployment of such actual (model) glass houses, a)
as an Eaaarth-enveloping dome, or b)
as a whole bunch of domes on one longitude,
all the way to both poles, may be instructive, or
destructive of teh metaphor.
I say, certainly destructive, but I'm not a programmer.
> > > > > and Svante Arrhenius, was published with little fanfare
1treePetrifiedForestLane
Apr 29, 2013, 11:25:01 PM4/29/13
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of course, there may already be such studies in the literature ...
or from glass house makers ... alt "global" warming;
a mind is a terrible thing to waste!
> this is the whole genesis of the paradigm, or
> "type-one error," of the metaphor of the glass "house,"
> circa 1896. still,
> the deployment of such actual (model) glass houses, a)
> as an Eaaarth-enveloping dome, or b)
> as a whole bunch of domes on one longitude,
> all the way to both poles, may be instructive, or
> destructive of the metaphor.
or from glass house makers ... alt "global" warming;
a mind is a terrible thing to waste!
> this is the whole genesis of the paradigm, or
> "type-one error," of the metaphor of the glass "house,"
> circa 1896. still,
> the deployment of such actual (model) glass houses, a)
> as an Eaaarth-enveloping dome, or b)
> as a whole bunch of domes on one longitude,
> all the way to both poles, may be instructive, or
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