The dietcoke engine
JT
Here it is, uses cavities on the pistons no joke (i think, oh
Androcles say i don't) ;D
JT
JT
Ok so the the smaller cavity piston/buttons works like a spark to
excite a fluid or gas to move the pistons or what exactly is this type
of engine?
JT
JT
You have a picture without explanation Androcles.
JT
JT
Could not you build a diet coke jetturbine Androcles. The turbinejet
compressor being a bottle of dietcoke thats feed in closed system with
new coke from bottom.
A ripe along one side of the bottle let a thin *big* menthos wheel
with cavities slowly rotate inside and dry outside much like a branch
cutter slowly spin in bottle and dry outside, creating an ever stream
of cavities to fuel the stream of dietcoke jetstream that feed the
turbine the compressed dietcoke running in turbine use a oneway went
to regulate pressure and backfeed the cokebottle and rotating cavity
wheel. I think the dietcock rubberhose feeder to the bottle need a
backvent to.
Androcles dietcoke turbine.
JT
TJ Indianlake
rotor.
steam power water rocket 4 cylinder.
post them. show them the first wale eng biult in 1850
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Should I Google for “wale engine” or “whale engine” ?
What was Mr. Whale's first name (1850) ?
I'll post your pics if you e·mail them to:
TJ @ JeffRelf.F-M.FM
Why did you change your name to “TJ Indianlake” ?
Where's Indianlake ?
tj Frazir
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I never changed my name to tjindianlake .
Its what hunt land with.
Whats your email ??
send an email to tjindi...@webtv.net and if you can post the pics you
own 1/1000TH of it anyway.
Ill giv ya a trip on the yacht above.
tj Frazir
1844 I think.
I use a doble tube col boiler and a small power washer piston pump to
force water into the hot coil real slow by turning the pump real slow.
Thats a stove burner on a lp tank heating the coil to make steam.
The 650 psi steam 10 cubic inch per second is 10 cubic inch injected
into a cylinder to force the water out the bottom flap.
The side flap will let water in but not out.
Its a real simple 4 cylinder or 5 cylinder water rocket.
For a boat you dont nead the rotor ,,just a jet.
For cars and trucks you use the slide vane rotor and NO transmision
.drive shaft to rotor direct.
Thats a simple drawings of the engine but not the engines i build
.they work like that but dont look like that.
My best car and truck engines have evolved .
tj Frazir
this nic.
a kid with the crew sent some pics for me .
where am I !
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on a BILLION buck boat.
tj Frazir
anything else gets to chew on the blast of the 3 inch gun.
This boat is so far off the hook ...its 14000 tons. Its 500 feet long
and loaded.
loaded is beond discription and cant be imagined. Your jaws will drop
no matter who you are when you see the planets top boat.
tj Frazir
googled.
if you did actuly help in a positive way ,,like post the pics and send
it around a bit ,,send glenn beck a few..
it will put presure on congress t sell GM to me.
ill put money in a number and put in direct in your account to pay for
your time.
and you can live on that for awile very well.
once posted I can scare the shit out of the oil boss and all the small
shops will use what they see.
jeff could be faimouse ..real quick too.
That would make jeff the only conection to the wale 7 . and tgotb
programed engines.
The engine is controled by a program while you drive . It knows
evrything and ount ever be wrong. In the old days a small steam engine
war run by hand. This is 100 % automatic.
tj Frazir
i think.
he might have moved by now.
I just buy a house when I sit on shore a month or 2 now and then.
I dont sell them ,,very much , i buy them like land banks forest and
farms.
you suck as a trader jeff ,,but might do good at the wales project.
Im going to use the pics you post to intimidate stockholder uncle sam .
IF that fails ,,,time will then work of the pics because a few 1000
people see it and as simple as it is the oil age will end anyway.
Anyone can see this engine runs very well.
tj Frazir
I bet it blew your mind to see an engine that works so well.
tj Frazir
the first whale was the in the can pic.
all the pics i sent are 10 to 12 years old.
I mathed my brains out befor i built anything then rebuilt over and over
wile beeting the fuck out of them .
My 22 inch 12 feet tall cylinders are 38000 HP on 144 cubic inch steam
per second.
My car engine is 10 to 2000 HP.
It gets 250 MPG at 277 HP at 500 rpm rotor speed.
wile on 10 cubic inch steam per second at 650 psi.
This engine is so simple your brain might explode.
its 13 times the HP and 10 % the fuel.
tj Frazir
The vanes are held in flush by valve springs .
As the rotor turns the vanes ride up against the cam wheel and are
pushed out of the rotor.
Its 1000 % better then a water turbine.
The cyclinder full of water is like a piston,
when steam is injected at 650 psi it will push the water down and out
the cylinders bottom flap.
then the ex-valve lets the cylinder refill with water for 3 seconds
and be ready to refire.
One cylnder fires per second.
No converting the thrust into rotation with a piston and crank.
This is much much better in any car or truck.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
I posted your pics T.J., see:
The Wales Steam Engine. Liquid Pistons.
Water Rockets for Ships, Sliding Vane Rotor for Cars etc.
http://google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/dd261918fb745826#
news:_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_Oct13.11.51pm.Qw
I had to make a followup post to add
the “Wales Steam Engine” term (for Google).
As I said in the e·mail I sent you,
it might be weeks before a Google·Images search will find them.
Google is slow like that, there's nothing you can do about it.
Thanks for the 1/1000·share and yacht·trip offers !
Sadly, it's too good to be true, I'm sure.
It's way past time for me to get some sleep, see you later.
Michael Moroney
>The boat will outrun anything.
> anything else gets to chew on the blast of the 3 inch gun.
> This boat is so far off the hook ...its 14000 tons. Its 500 feet long
>and loaded.
> loaded is beond discription and cant be imagined. Your jaws will drop
>no matter who you are when you see the planets top boat.
> Google Image Result for
>http://bitterendblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/l_600_390_B263EE41-A755-476A-8C19-898CD4E97A2F.jpeg
I've been to Indian Lake.
That's absurd even by the standards of being a tj Frazir post.
tj Frazir
where is the pic ?
post the god damn engine like you said you can !
whats the matter ?? the cia wount let you post THAT pic ?
I know damn well you'll get dead because you have the pic ..post it
befor the stop you from posting it.
If they did stop ou from posting it then your going to die for hving
the pic and not showing it.
They will kill you for having it but if you post the god dmn pic you
would be safe becuse thier too late to stop you.
I dont see a pic ,,,your too late.
tj Frazir
of usa wount let you post the pic.
I bet the usa gov has you killed for having it.
you could have posted it ,,i think ,,
but no one can see it.
tj Frazir
No fucking pics .
jeff will most like get killed and no one will see the pics .
Your link is fucked up.
its blocked no one can see shit.
No one can see anything...
you failed to post a pic and they know you have them...you best post
them befor they find you
tj Frazir
post the pic ,,or they will stop you .
They will take evrything you have apart then toss your dead ass in the
bay.
post it jeff ,,,i was shure you could and let you have a few pics to
post ..sitting on them is too fucking dangerouse ,,they WILL KILL YOU.
They know you have it now..
youll be dead in a day or too..
dont sit on them get the pics posted HERE quick because they are the
real deal dude.
dont be a moron and die over it
tj Frazir
he got the pics and lasted 1 day.
tj Frazir
I sent them to 10,000 people.
tj Frazir
You know you do because you saw them.
But why cant you show them to anyone ?
No one can see shit.
your a fucking programer that posted pics befor and now cant even show a
pic.
whats up jeff ??
you can see the pics your self ,,you knowwhat you see .. those are
real.
dont you understand no raghead can aford to let anyone see that pic ,,
the oil boss cant let that pic out because he wount last long .
I dought we ever hear from jeff.
Sam has the pics too.
I sent sam pics too.
tj Frazir
this one was allmost 2 billion bucks but it works.
tj Frazir
1.4 billion in the boat.
Your wildest imagination wount match the inside.
people that have seen it all wount belive..
sigless gps..
anti-photo
tgotb lpe 1 mhp. 130 mph 10,000 ton boat.
21 mixed steam fuel and o2 cylinders 22 inch fires 7 at a time. 2800
psi 22 inch nosels
tj Frazir
why cant you post a pic anyone can see ?
is someone blocking the pics ?
did they get to jeff befor he could ?
I dont think you quite understand the pics i sent.
Thats the basic engine .
Thats one hell of an engine is it not jeff.
I hope i didnt get you dead by sending them to you.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
You (T.J.) told me (Relf) something like:
“ Show 'em the engine.
I bet it blew your mind to see an engine that works so well.
All the pics I sent are 10 to 12 years old.
I mathed my brains out befor I built anything... then
rebuilt over and over wile beeting the fuck out of them .
My 22 inch 12 feet tall cylinders are 38,000 HP
on 144 cubic inches of steam per second.
My car engine is 10 to 2,000 HP.
It gets 250 MPG at 277 HP at 500 rpm rotor speed
from 10 cubic inches of steam per second at 650 psi.
This engine is so simple your brain might explode.
it's 13 times the HP for one·tenth the fuel. ”.
OK, but all I (we) have is your word, not a working engine.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Can't you see the photos I posted ? they're here:
http://google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/dd261918fb745826#
Can you see this photo : ?
http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Sliding%20Vane%20Rotor%20for%20Cars%20etc.;%20One%20Thousand%20Horse%20Power,%20850%20PSI%20Doble%20Boiler.JPG
If not, it's because your WebTV box is 15 years out of date.
Can you see this: ?
http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Sliding%20Vane%20Rotor%20for%20Cars%20etc.;%20One%20Thousand%20Horse%20Power,%20650%20PSI%20Doble%20Boiler.jpg
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
T.J., you're talking about Roman Abramovich's M/Y Eclipse;
no other yacht matches your description.
Apparently, you're telling us:
“ I'm Roman Abramovich (42 years old) and
I recently had a child via Daria Zhukova (28-years old). ”.
Unless, of course, you're saying you're secretly a part·owner,
John Fredriksen, the ship·builder.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Nine people have downloaded ·ALL· the Whale·2 pics I posted:
http://google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/dd261918fb745826#
You (T.J.) can't see them because
your WebTV box is 15 years out of date... ·OLD· ·OLD· ·OLD·.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
You (T.J.) told me (Relf) something like:
it directly in your account to pay for your time.
and you can live on that for awhile very well. ”.
Please do, thank you.
As it stands now, for the last 4 years,
all such promises have proven to be:
Too Good to be True.
Pictures don't impress people,
they need to see working cars and ships.
tj Frazir
Ill be damn.
Oh hell yea we can see it.
Im house shopping...$ 1 mil anywhere in seattle ..or can put it in your
mail and send to your house i hve your addy.
Now you earned somthing and allways pay.
I never pay when its not earned but will pay for this.
you snuck past homeland and its too late to stop.
Thats a hell of a steam engine is it not ;)
tj Frazir
How could i reward that ?
and what do you mean IF it works ?
Look at the steam engine .
put 650 psi 10 cubic inch steam in a 400 cubic inch cylindr full of
water and the wter is forced out the bottom flap .
Then the exhaust valve opens and the water comes in the fill flap on the
side.
ready to fire again.
You never ever saw an engine like this.
This is a much better engine.
tj Frazir
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This is the end of the oil age as you knew it.
I dont nead the rotor at sea ,,just a jet nosel .
This steam engine dont convert it to rotation and waist the energy with
machanical limits.
100% of it gets used.
you dont nead the second tank befor the rotor..its bypassed so you use
the end of eeach stroke .
tj Frazir
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Changed:1:51 PM on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
yea ..
this is 250 HP 277 MPG 400 cu inch cylinders.
The rotor is at 500 rpm .
It will fire 1 cylinder evry 60 seconds.
its 10 cubic inch steam per second at 650 psi.
a BBQ grill lp tank last 32 hours at 170 HP.
This iis a better engine then any engine you have ever seen.
Let its own math prove it.
tj Frazir
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the same as a fire truck ,,but at 650 psi and the diesel and pump is
gone.
How fucking bad did the fire truck get beet ?
Its a gas hog ..and its output is 1/4.
Beets the fire truck 100 to 1.
tj Frazir
made my first million in 82 i think.
then found just enouph info on line to trade and trade evry day.
jeff just made a billionaire smile
tj Frazir
Address:http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Sliding%20Vane%20Rotor%20for%20Cars%20etc.;%20One%20Thousand%20Horse%20Power,%20650%20PSI%20Doble%20Boiler.jpg
Changed:1:51 PM on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
without the rotor ..its 650 pounds thrust out a 1.2 inch nosel.
A 650 pound thrust jet ski is at 6000 rpm and thats 100 strokes per
second per cyclinder so it fires 400 times a second.
Its up against the wale that fires 1 time per second .
400 times vrs 1 time .
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Apparently, you want a links to images that you can easily repost,
ones that'll work with that 15 year old browser you have; like this:
http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.1.jpg
http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg
http://jeffrelf.f-m.fm/Whale.Steam.Engine.2.jpg
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
TJ Indianlake
a few people will build .
1000 engineers will have found heaven in this engine.
This engine will drive the planet past anyones expectations.
TJ Indianlake
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Unless I see your engines working, I can't say much about them.
Apparently, no one but you can use your engines.
You're a vital part of the Whale engine, and you can't be copied.
···············
As you know, I'm happy with my life as it is... very happy;
I don't want to be a trader, not for any amount of money.
I accept your offer to pay me, thank you.
TJ Indianlake
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The second tank befor the rotor is bypassed .
each stroke runs out the rotor befor the next cyclinder fires when your
doing down the road.
It has no transmision , its direct from the rotor to the drive shaft.
The rotor is fat on top of the rear end and the cylinders and tank sits
on top of it.
It dont look like the pics volume images .
But thats how a steam power 4 cylinder water rocket works.
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TJ Indianlake
thats the wales ship engine .
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TJ Indianlake
This is the best engine you ever saw.
Its not an engine anyone has ever seen.
Just my crew.
This engine rocks .
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just on steam it rocks. 10 % the fuel 13 times the tourk.
But on ballanced gas air o2 its 10 % the fuel and 1000 times the tourk.
Its 2800 psi not 650 psi that was put in the head first. t 500 rpm
rotor speed its 8000 pounds of tourk.
On steam just 650 psi steam its 2400 pound tourk up to 250 rpm rotor
speed.
more then your back wheels can handle.
admit it ,,thats a better engine then you have ever seen. Base the
engine for what it is ..
grade it on its own.
Thats a good running engine.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
You (T.J.) told me (Relf):
“ That's a hell of a steam engine is it not ;) ”.
Could be, what do I know about engines ?
You should be attracting the world's best engineers/traders,
not “idiots” like me.
You told me something like:
“ I'm house shopping...$ 1 mil anywhere in Seattle
..or can put it in your mail and
send it to your house, I have your addy.
Now you earned something and allways pay.
I never pay when it's not earned but will pay for this.
you snuck past homeland and it's too late to stop. ”.
Hell yea, email me the keys, I can dig it.
I'm in the fuckin' whitepages, Google for:
"Jeff Relf" Seattle WA
(206) 525-5196
4547 19th Ave NE, Apt.3
Seattle, WA 98105
····
unlike 99.999 percent of the world,
you can't see a Google Groups page, you can't see: !
http://google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/dd261918fb745826#
TJ Indianlake
What is a anti-camra machine ?
Its my laser painter.
Its 4 inch dot will paint the view like im taking the pic with a tv
laser.
evry time you try to film me or take a pic ,,evry frame gets hit with
the laser dot because evrything from screen top to bottom is painted
with the laser dot faster then the cam can snap a pic.
You can see a red dot on the boat ,,and the boat but your cam cant see
anything but that red dot.
TJ Indianlake
1938 artdeco is it not !
they make cotton candy in a vaccum fresh and its insane.
june south pac rim tour ,,put a cotton candy machine under vaccume and
used the space bowl 46 feet wide so the cotton cools longer.
befor you giggle at this..
it works on fiber glass .
We can do the same thing with glass.
glass so fine it dont break.
glass soft as silk.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Why doesn't the anti-camra laser·painter harm the eyes ?
isn't it continually painting eyeballs as well ?
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Can you make fabric (for clothes) out of this
slow·cooled (vacuum cooled) glass that's “soft as silk” ?
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
You have the Whale/Wales Steam Engine and others don't because... why ? is it because you yourself are a vital part of the engine ? a part which can't be duplicated. How will you influence Ford and GM ? Ford's Model-T, 1908-1927, 650 dollars:
tj Frazir
You know what 650 psi is.
Thats automatic reload water rockets with 650 psi to fire them with.
Without the rotor its a perfect ship engine because it used steam to
push a piston down to turn a crank to turn a shaft to turn a prop to
push water for thrust.
This uses the steam to push the water out the cylinder for thrust.
It did it without waisting 95 % by convering it a few times and allways
used it all.
The parts of the steam engine without the pistons and crank and shaft
and prop.
No rods to knock ,,no crank,,
no 95 % waisted energy.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Is this called a “Water Rocket”, a “Liquid Piston”, a “Whale Engine”, and/or a “Wales Steam Engine”: ?
tj Frazir
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on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
277 HP 250 MPG.
In a 7000 pound cadilac.devil.
up to 2000 HP down to 10 HP this engine rocks.
tj Frazir
rocket to run a steam engine to turn a helicopter rotor to fly as high
as the water rocket cant get off the ground.
But this engine will .
This is as good as a water rocket going down the road.
1200 foot pounds at 500 rpm is 10 cubic inch steam per second at 650
psi. 277 hp
tj Frazir
get you paid off.
tj Frazir
tj Frazir
It fuked the pic up.
all you see is a red dot on the ship ,,but the camra takes one pick evry
1/60th second.
so evry time you take a pic the laser will be pointed into your camra
wile the pic is snaped for 1/60th second.
evry frame gets fucked up,
you cant take a pic of my ship.
tj Frazir
you cant take my pic is ?
dont you think its odd that such an insane gadget would wind up there ?
The price tag ,, of 1.4 billion for a yacht.
PLUSS gas. LOL
the news has a date on it.
Its not the date you knew about the billion buck yacht because you
thought the price of 1 billion was a tad fucking insane .
Its more insane then that friend..
once inside this ship...i is imposible not to grin ear to ear all day.
its not just big ,,it is fucking so far off the hook youd go nuts .
art is 110 % and the things money cant buy we built.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Compilers create compilers, engines create engines, people create people.
Compilers convert human·readable source code
to machine·executable object code.
Larry Ellison and Paul Allen made their money selling
compilers to desk·jockeys in big·business and governments.
Before the 557 foot, 70 crew M/Y Eclipse,
Larry and Paul had the largest privately·owned Yachts.
Arab yachts are state·owned, oil production is state·owned/controlled.
tj Frazir
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I just know sams calculator is hot tonight.
I know allot of calculators will be doing 14 didgets looking this
engine over.
This engine is a brand new chunk of math a mile high.
Yet the engine is so simple.
It is what it is and cant lie because you see what it is. Its the real
deal.
This engine ends the oil age ,,greenhouse ,,
the electric co .. this engine will change the planet big time.
just because it works.
tj Frazir
Its a 4 or 5 cylinder water rocket driven with steam power.
Its a liquid piston steam engine.
Its a better engine and so the planet will use it.
Its a simple engine will last longer dont cost as much and uses a
fraction of the fuel.
It takes up less space and makes no sounds.
Its more balls then you ever drove befor.
Its one hell of an engine.
tj Frazir
on the other fast fast big boat .
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Changed:4:32 PM on Tuesday, February 17, 2009
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
OK, so the Whale/Wales Engine has
liquid pistons (a.k.a. steam-driven water rockets).
For cars and such (not ships), it has a Sliding Vane Rotor.
It's simpler, quiter, smaller, more efficient,
more powerful and less likely to break down or die.
Ford and GM won't use it.
G=EMC^2 Glazier
ago. Bert
tj Frazir
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on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
Thats a new engine herb.
Thats a new rotor and a new ? didnt name the shoe that the water passes
the rotor .
It looks allot like a break dont it !
Thats the rotor head.
tj Frazir
GM and ford will use it .
GM and ford will use MY best engine and you cant see whale 7.
You see whale 2, and 3and 4 and 1 .
whale 7 was 1000th engine built.
You fuel it once and the water is recycled steam and all closed. It has
a 6000 mile range on fuel oil.
tj Frazir
Whale 7 is so much better then the drawing .
This drawing is the best auto engine.
But the best ship engine is another page.
The best hydra-electric is the small drawing above the engine.
Its a rotor and a 30 inch pipe up a mountain to a stream. It dont
take much water to push 300,000 pounds slow and steady.
Thats 38000 HP.
That cost me under 250,000 for an entire system . It runs a paper
mill for nothing.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
As far as I can tell, Ford isn't feeling any pressure from you (T.J.).
Google Images has indexed your Whale Engine pics.
In a few weeks, people can find them via Google Images.
People are viewing the pics but not commenting.
One viewer was from www.BAESystems.com ,
a defense/security/aerospace industry company.
Also, someone from UniNett, Trondheim, saw it at:
www.electronicspoint.com/4-cyclinder-steam-power-water-rocket-t212654.html
He's from www.uninett.no/index.en.html ,
“ Advanced ICT solutions for research and education in Norway ”.
TJ Indianlake
TJ Indianlake
The pic will work but the name and pic minus the typo crap you allways
use .
©ø¥¥k this stupid shit wount work.
ALL we nead is ( Water Rocket Steam Engine ) as subject ) and the pic
like the pic you posted on the same page.
That will put it on the first google page where it will be seen allot.
Hide it with stupidd crap will help them rehide this engine and if they
was on the ball theyd not have let us see it now.
Good thing your not siting on it and posted it because an engine this
good makes you a target.
Its not a debait ,,its not an experiment ..
its the real deal.
250 MPG is the biggest deal on this planet.
nothing will have bigger impact then this.
TJ Indianlake
hits the target but you must fire and save te planet .
keep quiet and not show it I do fine..
the world dont.
Show it and die the world is better but ill be dead for ending the oil
age .
Some morons will die over this.
maybe allot of people ?
TJ Indianlake
Water Rocket Steam engine
Group: sci.physics Date: Thu, Oct 15, 2009, 2:24pm From:
TJindi...@webtv.net (TJ Indianlake)
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Who gives a fuck about what ford thinks !
250 MPG 1 million miles is the boss at $2000 an engine.
The way to force the fucking gov to be honest and not block the end
of the oil age.
Is hand it to ALL the other goverments.
This is now on google.
Soon will be impsible to look for a water rocket and not see this .
its now imposible for ford and gm not to use it.
They cant ignore it because IT is on times square evry hour and tokio
soon.
Not a single person you can find can knock a good engine.
TJ Indianlake
TJ Indianlake
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JT
> On 8 Okt, 08:17, JT <jonas.thornv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Engine.gif
> > Here it is, uses cavities on the pistons no joke (i think, oh
> > Androcles say i don't) ;D
>
> > JT
>
> Could not you build a diet coke jetturbine Androcles. The turbinejet
> compressor being a bottle of dietcoke thats feed in closed system with
> new coke from bottom.
>
> A ripe along one side of the bottle let a thin *big* menthos wheel
> with cavities slowly rotate inside and dry outside much like a branch
> cutter slowly spin in bottle and dry outside, creating an ever stream
> of cavities to fuel the stream of dietcoke jetstream that feed the
> turbine the compressed dietcoke running in turbine use a oneway went
> to regulate pressure and backfeed the cokebottle and rotating cavity
> wheel. I think the dietcock rubberhose feeder to the bottle need a
> backvent to.
>
> Androcles dietcoke turbine.
>
> JT
Russian steamship?
http://www.expressen.tv/nyheter/Utrikes/1.1743979/mystiskt-moln-forbryllar-miljoner
JT
tj Frazir
No onewill knock what works so well
tj Frazir
whitehouse,com kicked me off line for 5 hours .
tj Frazir
they pass it around without us then.
Navy now has a problem.
This rotor runs subs and they dont want us to show anything.
On top of that they hid the engine from congress.
now thiier all fucked because I sent it around the planet and started a
race.
tj Frazir
that tall tank on the right closes off so you run each stroke all the
way out the rotor ..to get the most out of each stroke without going
against potentual energy.
Open that side can up and save anything you dont have 3 seconds to use
if you like.
Or use it as extra out of the hole power for 3 seconds.
as funny as this engine looks at first glance..
its by far the best engine this planet will ever use.
tj Frazir
You dont have engine 7.
You have 1 2 3 and 4 ?
engine 7 is far more evolved.
These engines evolved as I rebuilt my way up.
I keep getting better parts like steam valves and evolution of things
that wear out.
I built the bust out of it.
The cost was insane..
then I had enouph parts built to load 140,000 ton boat and dock the
fucker.
by the end of next week Im going to cross the atlantic so fucking fast
for 14000 tons they will have it live on the news.
130 mph will be hard to miss.
tj Frazir
make em feal it
tj Frazir
It planes at 40 mph.
It takes 3 million pounds of thrust to push it 130 mph. 22 inch X
tgotb is P-max. 2800 psi X 300 square inches per jet.
14000 tons at 130 mph with 5 jets at P-max
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
You (TJ) told us something like:
“ By the end of next week I'm going to
cross the Atlantic so fucking fast (for 14 kilo·tons)
they'll have it live on the news. 130 mph will be hard to miss. ”.
I hope it makes the news, otherwise
you'll look like a prankster and I your sole fool.
The press says 22 knots is the cruise speed, 25 knots max.
Guest accommodation, 62; Staff / crew 50.
tj Frazir
A steam car in 1930 got 20 MPG and uses 1200 cubic inch at 650 psi per
second.
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theres the rotor theres the liquid piston.
Drop 10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi on its head and see what is against
the slide vane !
2 inch of slde vane to push on is 1300 pounds 12 inches from the center
of the rotor.
1300 foot pounds .
the drive shaft is conected to the rotor.
No trans ,,just rotor to drivetrain.
thats 100 to 1,,,not 10 % the fuel.
The real truth is I say 10 % but the fact is itfar better and allot
stronger.
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This engine cant tell lie because it is what you see and works and you
see it works.
Thats the end of the oil age.
Its not a maybe ,,,its not a might work...its a flawless engine and you
cant find a thing wrong and as more fact...its blowing your mind when
you run the math on this engine.
Thats because Math built it.
Math biult the proportions and the timing.
Math picked the methods and math ran it down the road befor I biult the
first engines.
Then the engines evolved.
rebuilt untill the quality matched the ma
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
No one here builds engines, not even Sam Wormley or Uncle Al.
None of us have your engine, so we can't tell if you're joking or not.
tj Frazir
anyone that understands a piston ..
The vanes are held in fush by valve springs untill ,,as the hub with
the vanes turns th vanes ride up on the cam wheel and get pushed up out
of the rotor to block the water on the flat side.
The cylinder is just a water cannon .
Steam from a mini doble boiler is the force to fire the water cannons
with.
Its not a hard engine to understand.
tj Frazir
cylinder. when the exhaust valve is open the cylinder fulls up till
water flows out the top valve . Its a solid full cylinder .
The valve closes at the top.. then the steam valve stays open for 1/50
seconds at 650 psi to put 10 cubic insh of steam into the cylinnder.
The water is pushed out the bottom flap.
Its just a simple engine.
tj Frazir
bgotb.
10 % ends the oil age.
tj Frazir
Not a thing wrong with it.
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Its so real jeff ,,a look at this pic makes building one very easy.
It looks like a break shoe and some water comes out the very small
gaps but it all just falls into the pan to recycle.
The fucker wount fail.
You got fuel for steam...your gone gone gone.
Its easy on steam .
1300 cubic inch per second in a steam car from 1930 at 20 MPG is normal
for 400 ci steam piston engine.
This engine makes that look stupid.
Its 13 times the HP and did it on 10 cubic inches not 1300 per second.
Thats a hell of an engine and no one will find a thing wrong with it
because 10 % the fuel rules and 1 % is insane.
tj Frazir
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when does it fire ?
how does it know when the cylinder is ready ?
4 cylinders are on a clock and each cyclindr will fire a second apart.
That means the first cyclinder had 3 seconds to reload and be ready so
there is nothing but time running the valves to keep the presure up to
drive.
The exhaust valve is just a second delay frm the steam valve.
a programable neumatic relay from ap-parts.
use the aerospace valves .
Use the 30 wire programable machine relay.
tj Frazir
The rotor with the tube above the engine is not part of it. Thats a
hydra-electric and that pipe just runs up a montain to a stream.
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Thats a 600 cubic inch box.
In fact the engine below is an inch thick----per--100 HP.
Per inch thick is that engine is just made longer and is rated at 100 HP
per inch of engine.
with 1 inch of vane per inch of engine at 500 rpm rotor 80 cubic inch
per rotation.
off my ead not quite the exsact math because im not looking at it.
The drawing is in perfect perportions 1 inch thick. 400 to 600 cubic
inch per cylinder stroke.
::::::::::
what might eat some math,,
is this engine is 1 stroke per second.
....................for cars.
whale 7 has no lpe rpm limits.
I can even change the length of the stroke wile running the cylinder
water up and down at 15 strokes per second p-max.
forced the water in and slammed it out at 2000 psi .
Then its 2000 HP per inch of svr .
Thats started with the stroke steam at 650 psi and injected that with o2
and fuel ( rocket fuel into a hot steam of 650 psi .
like a water cannon .
tj Frazir
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Without the math you can see how a water rocket works .
( hint ) the air pushed the water out hard.
Thats thrust.
remove the rotor ,,conect a fire hose and you have a fire truck pump.
This small car engine kicks a fire trucks ass.
I can change to p-max the its not a fire truck,,its a steel cutter and
can cut steel.
Then its an oil well drill.
LOOK at the pump its self.
as many cylinders any size.
Its like a fire truck without the machanical losses of the engine and
pump.
Its not a 95 % loss at all.
so its 95 % better.
because the piston and crank and pump are not there to waist it.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
If I'm super lucky, we'll hear news reports (weeks from now) about
the 4 kilo-gross-ton M/Y Eclipse doing 130 knots across the Atlantic
....then I'd cease to be yet-another-prank-victim.
I think I understand your engine but I don't build engines, and
I don't know why Ford doesn't build engines like that.
There must be a solid reason,
I'm not buying your hair-brained conspiracy theories.
Guessing, I'd say that it's because you yourself are
a vital component of your engines... one that can't be copied.
More than anything else -- more than "free rent" --
I want to prove that you are (or are not) a prankster.
As it stands now, I look like a complete retard,
the only idiot who'd fall for your silly pranks.
tj Frazir
your the nearest to a working wale 7.
How about you getting some one like ..
the late night man,,,jay leno have it a look over and drive ?
Show him the drawing he will love that.
You know he will too want to see the wale 7 come run and look it over
with a test drive.
The one in my silver ghost 30 .
jay will love that car.
I bet jay slaps 3 mil down on ya to keep it.
so allong with our deal.
If jay will see the car you will own it when you take it .
if he wants all questions be right here
tj Frazir
22 inch pipe up a mountain is the same as a 22 inch 10 foot tall
cylinder.
It pushes a square foot say 144 square inch.
at 500 psi thats about 300,000 pound pushing the wheel around .
call that 38000 HP.
The cylnder gets 1 cubic foot of 1000 psi steam per 3 seconds.
a 20 foot pipe gets 2 feet and 6 seconds wait for the stroke.
Thats 150 tons of thrust without a rotor as a jet drive for a ship.
at 1/100th the fuel.
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Point me to the Whale-7 in the Silver Ghost and, hell Yea,
I'd let Jay Leno test drive it (and show him your drawings).
You'd be there to answer Jay's questions (through me).
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Yea, I zoomed Whale.Steam.Engine.3 to 1260 pixels and wider.
I see the hydro-rotor at the top. My screen is 2 feet from my eyes.
The "water cannon" is rocket fuel (i.e. oxygen and fuel) injected
into the 650 psi steam to get 2000 psi (2000 HP per inch of vane-out).