In pictures: Cern Large Hadron Collider restarts
Sam Wormley
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8371778.stm
Sam Wormley
> In pictures: CERN Large Hadron Collider restarts
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8371778.stm
On Friday Evening, two stable beams of protons were
sent in opposite directions around the LHC.
Y.Porat
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my suggestion for them is
to look for some physical entities that
MOVE IN AN UNEXPLAINED ----
(UNTIL NOW)
-----CIRCULAR MOTION
ATB
Y.Porat
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Aleph
@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Fri, 20 Nov 2009
22:28:13 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y....@gmail.com> imparted these words
of wisdom:
Comic value aside (because you are, frankly, nuts), why do you keep
saying "now" - you tried to pass this "explaination" off years ago.
--
Aleph
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Inertial
news:5b7df84e-9d06-4e7f...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
That's never been found. Never will
Y.Porat
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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why should those moron crook parrots
be a gainst such a suggestion??
the only explanation is
personal mad hatred !!
those cooks never in thier life
innovated anything
except parroting about
W Z Bosons
and Higgs Bosons
so please bypass them
2
Inertial
that is actually Feuerbacher from Hidelberg
is a little pig thief psychopath
the moron gangster Aleph is only a few months on the net....
and never since then sopke
*** a single word of scientific argument***
except net personal abuse
anyone can check it as a fact
Y.Porat
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Inertial
> On Nov 22, 2:29 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
>> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:5b7df84e-9d06-4e7f...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Nov 21, 6:42 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>> >> Sam Wormley wrote:
>> >> > In pictures: CERN Large Hadron Collider restarts
>> >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8371778.stm
>>
>> >> On Friday Evening, two stable beams of protons were
>> >> sent in opposite directions around the LHC.
>>
>> > ------------------------
>> > my suggestion for them is
>> > to look for some physical entities that
>> > MOVE IN AN UNEXPLAINED ----
>> > (UNTIL NOW)
>> > -----CIRCULAR MOTION
>>
>> That's never been found. Never will
>
> ----------------------
> why should those moron crook parrots
> be a gainst such a suggestion??
Which moron crook parrots are they?
You do realize that the results of collisions are thoroughly examined .. if
there was some strange circulr moving object there, it would have been found
by now.
> the only explanation is
> personal mad hatred !!
You certainly do have a lot of hatred. Don't know what happened to you to
make you like that.
> those cooks never in thier life
> innovated anything
> except parroting about
> W Z Bosons
> and Higgs Bosons
> so please bypass them
Who?
> 2
>
> Inertial
> that is actually Feuerbacher from Hidelberg
> is a little pig thief psychopath
Completely wrong on all counts. How many more people are you going to
incorrectly say i am?
> the moron gangster Aleph is only a few months on the net....
> and never since then sopke
> *** a single word of scientific argument***
> except net personal abuse
> anyone can check it as a fact
Anyone who checked would find that you lie and make false accusations, and
that the personal insults always originate unprovoked with you. You are
simply a nasty little old man.
Y.Porat
THAT IS THE MOST STUPID SAY THAT I EVER HEARD
STUPID EVEN FOR FEUERBACHER STANDARDS !!
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> > the only explanation is
> > personal mad hatred !!
>
> You certainly do have a lot of hatred. Don't know what happened to you to
> make you like that.
>
> > those cooks never in thier life
> > innovated anything
> > except parroting about
> > W Z Bosons
> > and Higgs Bosons
> > so please bypass them
>
> Who?
>------------------
you and the other gangster moron parrots
btw
waht happened
did you stopped believing in the Higgs Bossons ?? ....
> > 2
>
> > Inertial
> > that is actually Feuerbacher from Hidelberg
> > is a little pig thief psychopath
>
> Completely wrong on all counts. How many more people are you going to
> incorrectly say i am?
>------------------------
ok
just tel me how to spell rigthly :---
-----Bjorn Feuerbacher
Y.P
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G=EMC^2 Glazier
like I have posted I know how to do every thing better. I would never
ever spice wires to gether. Only a continuos wire for my projects O ya
I could have save them time and money just looking over their shoulders
bert
Sam Wormley
Poor Herbert, all the superconducting magnet sections had to be
spliced together as they can grow wires like nerves. Duh!
Raymond Yohros
why you turned so dark know?
G=EMC^2 Glazier
reminding us on that fact. A weak splice is the LHC weakest link. And so
it was Bert
G=EMC^2 Glazier
square law?" Could be like a light bulb I dim with distance,and being
old I lost some of my glow. Especially since I gave up MSP about 11
months ago. Go figure Bert in the twilight zone
Sam Wormley
And so it was fixed... well enough to get the proton beams higher
than 1 TeV (new territory).
Raymond Yohros
YYYYYYEEEUUUUHHHH!
Raymond Yohros
r u talking about music-signal-procecing?
i guess its not fun anymore when you get old.
im know trying to merge into pd (millers vertion)
but i still have trouble learning how to structure data.
regards
r.y
Raymond Yohros
> square law?"
>
the inverse square law may be old but it still kiks ass
you should too!
PD
At what energy scale? What size circular orbit? What mass particle?
Where are the quantitative suggestions?
As it is, you're suggesting that people look for some new valuable
substance that might be someplace, though you don't specify where or
by what specific quantitative signature to look for it.
This is a useless suggestion without that quantitative guide.
>
> ATB
> Y.Porat
> ---------------------------
Raymond Yohros
> On Nov 21, 12:28 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 21, 6:42 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> > > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > In pictures: CERN Large Hadron Collider restarts
> > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8371778.stm
>
> > > On Friday Evening, two stable beams of protons were
> > > sent in opposite directions around the LHC.
>
> > ------------------------
> > my suggestion for them is
> > to look for some physical entities that
> > MOVE IN AN UNEXPLAINED ----
> > (UNTIL NOW)
> > -----CIRCULAR MOTION
>
> At what energy scale? What size circular orbit? What mass particle?
> Where are the quantitative suggestions?
>
> As it is, you're suggesting that people look for some new valuable
> substance that might be someplace, though you don't specify where or
> by what specific quantitative signature to look for it.
>
do you or anyone know the timings of collitions
being performed?
r.y
PD
Are you asking how much time is between the proton bunches?
Raymond Yohros
> > do you or anyone know the timings of collitions
> > being performed?
>
>
yes and if they are following any pattern in relation with the
timings and the densities of the streamed collitions?
r.y
PD
The bunch spacing is 25 ns.
I'm not sure what you're asking about a pattern. The detectors are
gated to be timed with the bunch crossings.
Raymond Yohros
pattern on variating the bunch spacings (you say is 25 ns constantly?)
and
also variating the densities of this bunches?
Dr Ivan D. Reid
wrote in <1ba6d504-dfeb-47fd...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>:
> On Nov 28, 7:48�am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 27, 3:26�pm, Raymond Yohros <b...@birdband.net> wrote:
>> > On Nov 27, 1:31�pm, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > do you or anyone know the timings of collitions
>> > > > being performed?
>> > > Are you asking how much time is between the proton bunches?
>> > yes and if they are following any pattern in relation with the
>> > timings and the densities of the streamed collitions?
>> The bunch spacing is 25 ns.
>> I'm not sure what you're asking about a pattern. The detectors are
>> gated to be timed with the bunch crossings.
> pattern on variating the bunch spacings (you say is 25 ns constantly?)
> and
> also variating the densities of this bunches?
Bunch spacing is 25 ns, but not all nominal bunches contain protons.
The gaps are for various technical and scientific reasons. There's
one largish gap to give time to sweep the septum magnet during a period
of no beam, when the beam has to be dumped.
See http://lhc-data-exchange.web.cern.ch/lhc-data-exchange/collier.pdf
--
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
Jeroen Belleman
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:29:13 -0800 (PST), Raymond Yohros <b...@birdband.net>
> wrote in <1ba6d504-dfeb-47fd...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>:
>> pattern on variating the bunch spacings (you say is 25 ns constantly?)
>> and
>> also variating the densities of this bunches?
>
> Bunch spacing is 25 ns, but not all nominal bunches contain protons.
> The gaps are for various technical and scientific reasons. There's
> one largish gap to give time to sweep the septum magnet during a period
> of no beam, when the beam has to be dumped.
But so far, they haven't yet injected more than a single bunch at
a time into the machine, so the bunch spacing is currently about
89us, i.e., one revolution period. The bunch intensity has been 3e9
to 5e9 protons and the bunch length about 4ns.
Jeroen Belleman
Jim O'Reilly
opposite directions.Is the polarity of the magnets changed to
accomodate each beam?
--
Jim O'Reilly
Jeroen Belleman
No, the LHC is two tubes, side by side, with the field
pointing *up* in one and *down* in the other. There's
a nice photo at <http://www.flickr.com/photos/murky/4031923254/>
If the web site <http://cern.ch/lhc> is accessible from the
outside (is it?), but there's a wealth of information in the
design report.
Jeroen Belleman
Jim O'Reilly
<jer...@nospam.please> writes
--
Jim O'Reilly
PD
Yes, constantly.
> and
> also variating the densities of this bunches?
That depends on the quality of the store. It's pretty constant.
Raymond Yohros
>
> If the web site <http://cern.ch/lhc> is accessible from the
> outside (is it?),
>
but no access to the LHC operation link
regards
r.y