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DARTH VADER

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Aug 16, 2005, 4:03:14 AM8/16/05
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HEY , NO OFFENCE!!!!
"The lightsaber's jewels focus the power cell's enemy charge into a
tight parallel beam that emerges from the blade emitter as a vibrant
blade of pure energy. The blade is a closed energy loop. Its amplitude
determines when the energy beam arcs back to the negatively charged
high-energy flux aperture that rings the outer edge of the lightsaber's
concave disk. The power cell can last to years because it is fed by the
energy that enters the flux aperture; the weapon loses energy only when
the blade makes contact with another object."
What is a closed energy loop ?
Please post !

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T Wake

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Aug 16, 2005, 4:23:37 AM8/16/05
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"DARTH VADER" <ullalv...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Have you identified the difference between fact and fiction?


Martin

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Aug 16, 2005, 5:07:53 AM8/16/05
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Don't take this the wrong way. Try and get out a bit more than you do
right now.

Randy Poe

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Aug 16, 2005, 9:01:53 AM8/16/05
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DARTH VADER wrote:
> "The lightsaber's
[snip]

> What is a closed energy loop ?

Something made up by the author of the above (snipped)
passage. Light sabers are not real. This is an attempt
by a science-fiction author to provide slightly more
plausible-sounding details to a special effect.

The same author might have described Wookie biology and
evolution in detail, but you know they aren't real, right?

- Randy

Gregory L. Hansen

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Aug 16, 2005, 10:00:42 AM8/16/05
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In article <1124179394.8...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,


What is "pure energy"?

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"Awareness means not just a vague, comfortable, fuzzy feeling. It means
explicit knowledge of current conditions." -- NBSR Radiation Safety
Training

Ian Stirling

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Aug 16, 2005, 11:17:48 AM8/16/05
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DARTH VADER <ullalv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> HEY , NO OFFENCE!!!!
> "The lightsaber's jewels focus the power cell's enemy charge into a
> tight parallel beam that emerges from the blade emitter as a vibrant
> blade of pure energy. The blade is a closed energy loop. Its amplitude
> determines when the energy beam arcs back to the negatively charged
> high-energy flux aperture that rings the outer edge of the lightsaber's
> concave disk. The power cell can last to years because it is fed by the
> energy that enters the flux aperture; the weapon loses energy only when
> the blade makes contact with another object."
> What is a closed energy loop ?

I still wonder if it might be possible to do a light-sabre like effect,
using beams of light dense enough to actually gravitationally interact.
They'd have to be at an angle to each other, so they could, maybe some
sort of spiral effect.

However, this would not produce a light saber, as the amount of energy
needed is many, many orders of magnitude over what the observed effects
are.

Mark Martin

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Aug 16, 2005, 12:12:47 PM8/16/05
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DARTH VADER wrote:
The power cell can last to years because it is fed by the
> energy that enters the flux aperture; the weapon loses energy only when
> the blade makes contact with another object."

This passage alone will tell you something of how meaningless the
technical description of the lightsaber is. If lightsabers don't lose
energy when not in intimate contact with other objects, then they'd
have to be typically invisible at all frequencies. Yet they are
portrayed as not only visible, but quite blindingly bright. Light
carries energy. A visible lightsaber is one which is losing energy
continuously.

It'd be much more plausible just to postulate that the Republic, in
its highly advanced condition, has access to a source of cheap &
plentiful energy which we aren't even at the point of imagining. In
fact this is obviously true, since everyone in the Star Wars
civilisation has access to on-demand space travel, which is known by us
to be anything but cheap. Everything in the Star Wars world speaks of
abundant and affordable energy.

-Mark Martin

Ian Stirling

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Aug 16, 2005, 4:12:46 PM8/16/05
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Mark Martin <qed...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> DARTH VADER wrote:
> The power cell can last to years because it is fed by the
>> energy that enters the flux aperture; the weapon loses energy only when
>> the blade makes contact with another object."
>
> This passage alone will tell you something of how meaningless the
> technical description of the lightsaber is. If lightsabers don't lose
> energy when not in intimate contact with other objects, then they'd
> have to be typically invisible at all frequencies. Yet they are
> portrayed as not only visible, but quite blindingly bright. Light
> carries energy. A visible lightsaber is one which is losing energy
> continuously.

Putting on my apologists hat:
It's not really blindingly bright.
Comparing to fluorescent tubes, it emits at most maybe 20W of light energy.
Even current tech can cope with this energy loss for several minutes in
a package no larger than the handle.

Mark Martin

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Aug 16, 2005, 7:46:12 PM8/16/05
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Ian Stirling wrote:

> Putting on my apologists hat:
> It's not really blindingly bright.
> Comparing to fluorescent tubes, it emits at most maybe 20W of light energy.
> Even current tech can cope with this energy loss for several minutes in
> a package no larger than the handle.

Yeah, I'll buy the 20 watts. But in general it sounds like DARTH
VADER needs lessons in thermodynamics.

-Mark Martin

tj Frazir

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Aug 17, 2005, 12:39:46 AM8/17/05
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It would be a neon spark plug tube ..a real big one . if it touches you
its the stun un from fucking hell and your hart will fly out your ass.

I ll use the electric gun with its superconducting bullets going 25000
mph . 1 oz.
or the star cannon 5 pound round .
It WILL blow town size holes in the planet at 100 rounds per sec.
Pick one up at wallyworld

Mark Martin

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Aug 17, 2005, 1:10:53 AM8/17/05
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*burp*

-Mark Martin

T Wake

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Aug 17, 2005, 4:51:13 AM8/17/05
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"tj Frazir" <Gravity...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Gibberish

Boring, fantasising fool.


Rene Tschaggelar

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Aug 17, 2005, 5:58:06 AM8/17/05
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Gregory L. Hansen wrote:

> In article <1124179394.8...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> DARTH VADER <ullalv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>HEY , NO OFFENCE!!!!
>>"The lightsaber's jewels focus the power cell's enemy charge into a
>>tight parallel beam that emerges from the blade emitter as a vibrant
>>blade of pure energy. The blade is a closed energy loop. Its amplitude
>>determines when the energy beam arcs back to the negatively charged
>>high-energy flux aperture that rings the outer edge of the lightsaber's
>>concave disk. The power cell can last to years because it is fed by the
>>energy that enters the flux aperture; the weapon loses energy only when
>>the blade makes contact with another object."
>>What is a closed energy loop ?
>>Please post !
>
> What is "pure energy"?

At least 99% purity, I guess.
Perhaps in a plastic bag ?

Rene

pete

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Aug 17, 2005, 7:09:31 AM8/17/05
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DARTH VADER wrote:

> The blade is a closed energy loop.

> What is a closed energy loop ?

The blade is.

--
pete

donsto...@hotmail.com

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Aug 17, 2005, 7:18:12 AM8/17/05
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The blade is what???????

Gregory L. Hansen

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Aug 17, 2005, 11:30:55 AM8/17/05
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In article <4302039b$0$1201$ed26...@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>,

What arrangement of magnets could make a magnetic bottle outside of the
volume of the magnets and that has a shape like a saber?

I think it could be done if you add enough multipole moments, but the
magnet assembly would have to be at least as wide as the blade is long.


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"I fart for joy and I laugh more than if I had cast my old age, as a
serpent does its skin." -- Aristophanes, Peace, 421 BC

pete

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Aug 17, 2005, 4:40:48 PM8/17/05
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donsto...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> The blade is what???????

What blade?

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pete

Autymn D. C.

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Aug 17, 2005, 9:03:11 PM8/17/05
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I'm not sorry, but scientists and engineers are too dumb and retarded
to criticize what they don't understand.

Just because it's called a lightsaber doesn't mean that the blade is
only light. From "pure energy" you have your pick of bosons. I prefer
mesons because they cavort between matter and energy depending on
whether they're shot or trapped. And it's easy to make them into high
EM yields when geons aren't available. The blade is lossless because
it regenerates the energy in a stasis field. For electromagnetic
beams, a 3-D fotonic crustal (You may search for one in Google or
/Discover/ magazine under a different, wrong spelling.) is used to trap
light indefinitely when not in use. However, visible broadband
crustals--or "jewels" as called in the other universe--won't be
invented for a decade. And the electrocolor beams must be made from
nuclear crustals to be self-sustaining. After the
strangeonium-neutronium alloy factories are built on the sun, such
second-heavenly mineral is shot to Earth with every flare in cathodic
tungsten shells. The mineral will come as clear floating beads
sparklier than moissanite and denser than the Sun's heart. To use in a
regenerating weapon, such beads must be charged by immersion into the
handle's nuclear battery. As the beads are already hardy electrets,
the handle's superconductive steering coils can draw a blade of any
size by diamagnetostatic-Lenz suspension. The light coming off the
blade should not be thought to be coming from the beam. Because the
manufacturing tolerances of a solar-sited factory can go as far as the
weather lets through, sample populations of crustals will exhibit
open-order Fresnel-Mie retroreflective critical dimensions amplifying
ambient radiation hundreds of times more efficiently than 3M's
Scotchlite. Most of the Shechinah-like glory comes from the outer
regenerative suspension beam--the one that comes in contact with
targets--focused at diffractive wavelengths to make the brightest
fringes, or halos as some cultists say; but as this is extremely
distracting to the wielder and the audience when the blade is
disrupted, the flashes may be removed in post-production or wholly by
turning down the outer beam at the expense of regenerative efficiency
and more power draw from the battery. The blade cuts when the
suspension is disrupted: the target-actor critically jostling the
mesonic crustals forces reactive electrocoloral bremsstrahlung into the
actor, shielding the wielder from stray radiation in swings and
strikes. The output should be many slow mesons that chaotically
transmute the target's atoms, having the indirect effects of cutting by
structural autoionization, and paralusis by transubstantiating
electrolutic pathways into diaelectric mush. In other words, the
weapon is a very efficient, high-bandwidth signalling device not unlike
a pulsar.

For more information, you may read my subversive material in the
Wikipedia laser pages.

-Aut

RP

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Aug 17, 2005, 10:25:47 PM8/17/05
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Autymn D. C. wrote:

It's a translucent plastic tube with a battery-operated lightbulb in the
handle. They sell them down at Walmart.

Richard Perry


Quantum Mirror

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Aug 18, 2005, 12:12:38 AM8/18/05
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DARTH VADER wrote:
<snip>

>How does a light saber work?

They use the most powerful and efficient energy in the universe:

Imagination!

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