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  <updated>2009-11-24T11:48:12Z</updated>
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  <name>Phillip Helbig---undress to reply</name>
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  <updated>2009-11-24T11:48:12Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Your thoughts on idea that may kill string theory.</title>
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  We can&#39;t falsify it by not discovering them, true, unless they are &lt;br&gt; firmly predicted at a certain energy or whatever. One the other hand, &lt;br&gt; if they are discovered, the confidence in the theory will increase. &lt;br&gt; Something similar happened with proton half-lives. Each failed &lt;br&gt; prediction which is &amp;quot;saved&amp;quot; by some epicycle decreases faith in the
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  <name>X-Phy</name>
  <email>xphysic...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-24T10:36:34Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Your thoughts on idea that may kill string theory.</title>
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  ========= Moderator&#39;s note ============================== ================ &lt;br&gt; This posting is borderline of being unscientific since it contains unjustified &lt;br&gt; claims. I&#39;ve let it through since I think we could have an interesting discussion &lt;br&gt; on the foundation and empirical status of the Standard Model of elementary particles
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  <name>andyeverett</name>
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  <updated>2009-11-24T09:25:49Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Your thoughts on idea that may kill string theory.</title>
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  On Nov 22, 2:51 am, &amp;quot;Robert L. Oldershaw&amp;quot; &amp;lt;rlolders...@amherst.edu&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; I was not clear, this is not my work, it is the work of Christoph &lt;br&gt; Schiller. If I understood this idea better I might be able to address &lt;br&gt; your concerns. I find this idea intriguing and though others might as &lt;br&gt; well, requires more study on my part.
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  <name>Phillip Helbig---undress to reply</name>
  <email>hel...@astro.multiclothesvax.de</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-24T09:25:46Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Your thoughts on idea that may kill string theory.</title>
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  In article &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;a5bc6bcf-36cf-4c1c-9703-38122 3172...@p28g2000vbi.googlegrou ps.com&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; Many of the predictions are of this type. While not necessarily wrong, &lt;br&gt; they do not distinguish between theories. In other words, we don&#39;t know &lt;br&gt; if we haven&#39;t found the Higgs because it doesn&#39;t exist or because we &lt;br&gt; haven&#39;t found it yet. So, predictions that essentially say that we
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  <author>
  <name>Juan R.</name>
  <email>nowh...@canonicalscience.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-24T09:15:09Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: relation between quantum mechanics and classical mechanics</title>
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  Ulf Klein wrote on Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:16:09 -0500: &lt;br&gt; Above statements are rather right. There is some important details to be &lt;br&gt; worked out (the problem of classicality is still open), however. &lt;br&gt; The approach I like more is to start from the basic quantum equation (the &lt;br&gt; Schrödinger equation is a special case of this equation)
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  <name>Hans-Peter Schmidt</name>
  <email>hanspeter.f.schm...@googlemail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-24T08:57:28Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Your thoughts on idea that may kill string theory.</title>
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  On 22 Nov., 08:51, &amp;quot;Robert L. Oldershaw&amp;quot; &amp;lt;rlolders...@amherst.edu&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; Copy-paste from &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.motionmountain.net/research/index.html&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Some predictions of the model (with their timing), made before &lt;br&gt; conclusive experiments (at the LHC, on neutrinos, on electric dipole &lt;br&gt; moments, about QCD, and in astrophysics):
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  <name>Phillip Helbig</name>
  <email>hel...@localhost.localdomain</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-24T08:57:28Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: relation between quantum mechanics and classical mechanics</title>
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  Ulf Klein wrote on Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:16:09 -0500: &lt;br&gt; Above statements are rather right. There is some important details to be &lt;br&gt; worked out (the problem of classicality is still open), however. &lt;br&gt; The approach I like more is to start from the basic quantum equation (the &lt;br&gt; Schrödinger equation is a special case of this equation)
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  <author>
  <name>Igor Khavkine</name>
  <email>igor...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-24T08:57:28Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: What would be the field element for Path Integation of the</title>
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  This result cannot be correct, for elementary reasons. One is the &lt;br&gt; obvious fact that your right hand side depends on g_ab, which you have &lt;br&gt; supposedly integrated out. The second reason, is that you can only get &lt;br&gt; a (generalized) delta function from an integration such as above if &lt;br&gt; the argument of the exponent is linear in the quantity you are
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  <name>a student</name>
  <email>of_1001_nig...@hotmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T20:14:01Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.research/browse_thread/thread/72b95ec2babb5805/6a6e40685106292e?show_docid=6a6e40685106292e"/>
  <title type="text">Re: relation between quantum mechanics and classical mechanics</title>
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  There is more than one &#39;classical limit&#39;. First &lt;br&gt; there is the limit hbar -&amp;gt; 0. This is a purely &lt;br&gt; formal limit - hbar is a fixed physical constant. &lt;br&gt; In this limit there is indeed, as you suggest, &lt;br&gt; a classical statistical theory, described by &lt;br&gt; the fields rho and S on configuration space. &lt;br&gt; This doesn&#39;t really make the second statement
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  <name>Nicolaas Vroom</name>
  <email>nicolaas.vr...@pandora.be</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T20:14:02Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Planetary drift</title>
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  &amp;quot;Dirk Bruere at NeoPax&amp;quot; &amp;lt;dirk.bru...@gmail.com&amp;gt; schreef in &lt;br&gt; bericht &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=7mesjsF3he821U1@mid.individual.net&quot;&gt;news:7mesjsF3he821U1@mid.individual.net&lt;/a&gt;... &lt;br&gt; I have a problem with your question in general: &lt;br&gt; How can you answer a question when the words used are not clear ? &lt;br&gt; What means: &amp;quot;quantum randomness &amp;quot;&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; What means: &amp;quot;non deterministic randomness&amp;quot;
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  <author>
  <name>Igor Khavkine</name>
  <email>igor...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T09:08:53Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.research/browse_thread/thread/d15e35b971697965/ff9fd8ccc342fbd4?show_docid=ff9fd8ccc342fbd4"/>
  <title type="text">Re: What would be the field element for Path Integation of the Einstein - Hilbert Action!</title>
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  That&#39;s false. What is known is that, as Steve Carlip pointed out, does &lt;br&gt; not reproduce the desired Einstein equations. &lt;br&gt; You make an elementary mistake between equations (1.13) and (1.15). &lt;br&gt; Your substitution of the Ricci scalar for the stress-energy trace is &lt;br&gt; illegitimate. That is only allowed on shell (for particular solutions
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  <author>
  <name>Jay R. Yablon</name>
  <email>jyab...@nycap.rr.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T09:08:44Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.research/browse_thread/thread/bf59203692ad7033/ec844e7add34f369?show_docid=ec844e7add34f369"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Quantum Field Theory: The Big, Simple Picture?</title>
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  After several false starts where I tried to mess around with the L_m &lt;br&gt; in the Einstein-Hilbert action, I think I may finally be able to show, &lt;br&gt; mathematically, how to evaluate the path integral: &lt;br&gt; Z=${-oo to +oo}Dg exp[i $d^4x sqrt(-g)((1/2k)R+L_m)] (1) &lt;br&gt; for the E-H action, without any messing around. This is at the link
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  <author>
  <name>Melroy</name>
  <email>melroysoa...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T09:08:36Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.research/browse_thread/thread/0b2bbf9d0d7ea8c9/4ce6fab683889540?show_docid=4ce6fab683889540"/>
  <title type="text">Discussion of Horava-Lifshitz gravity?</title>
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  Hi , &lt;br&gt; I am surprised there has not been a single post on Horava-Lifshitz &lt;br&gt; gravity on this forum. What do people (esp. steve Carlip, Tom Roberts, &lt;br&gt; John Baez, Jonathan Thornburg etc) think about this? &lt;br&gt; There was a whole conference at Perimeter devoted to this &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.pirsa.org/C09026&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <author>
  <name>Jay R. Yablon</name>
  <email>jyab...@nycap.rr.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-22T07:51:16Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: What would be the field element for Path Integation of the Einstein - Hilbert Action?</title>
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  I stand corrected. Equation (1) above is wrong, because as Dr. &lt;br&gt; Carlip pointed out to me privately, the traceless EM field would &lt;br&gt; contribute nothing in (1), which is physically incorrect. The specific &lt;br&gt; mathematical error in the derivation I posted yesterday, was that even &lt;br&gt; though the trace of the Einstein equation kT=R, I was applying this in a
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  <author>
  <name>Robert L. Oldershaw</name>
  <email>rlolders...@amherst.edu</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T07:51:16Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Your thoughts on idea that may kill string theory.</title>
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  How about giving us details on one or two definitive predictions, &lt;br&gt; which are: &lt;br&gt; Feasible &lt;br&gt; Prior to the tests &lt;br&gt; Unique to the theory being tested &lt;br&gt; Quantitative &lt;br&gt; NON-ADJUSTABLE &lt;br&gt; Thanks, &lt;br&gt; RLO &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.amherst.edu/~rloldershaw&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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