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From: "Jay R. Yablon" <jyab...@nycap.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 00:47:26 -0500
Local: Sat, Mar 1 2008 12:47 am
Subject: Referee Report on Kaluza Klein Paper
Well, I have to give them credit for turnaround. The Kaluza Klein paper
was not accepted. Here is the referee report below, with my own comments and queries. I would like whatever objective input you all can give on this report and how you see this. The draft which was reviewed is at the link below: http://jayryablon.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/kaluza-klein-and-lorent... REFEREE REPORT: The author wants to derive the Maxwell equation from the vacuum Einstein In the manuscript there are a number of confusions, e.g. between Having said this, the author must have worked a considerable amount to MY COMMENTS: I did get the dimensional balances messed up on page 3. However, that I do not believe the 55 components are arbitrarily set to zero. First, Now, it is actually heartening to get the paper rejected mainly because As I have written this, I have studied other folks' work on Kaluza MY QUESTIONS: It seems to me that there may be two original things here, and I wonder 1) The deduction in section 4 of the radius of the fifth compacted 2) The deduction of the trace matter tensor in section 11. Also, am I wrong about the 55 Christoffel components? I think this is I do have some quantum result from all of this as well, but those were I appreciate your input in helping me to understand the report in an Thanks, Jay. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:50:03 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Mar 1 2008 1:50 am
Subject: Re: Referee Report on Kaluza Klein Paper
On Feb 29, 8:47 pm, "Jay R. Yablon" <jyab...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
[...] I still do not understand why you regard the Lorentz force as > REFEREE REPORT: I had been wondering how this iteration was different from the > The author wants to derive the Maxwell equation from the vacuum Einstein original. Guess it isn't. > In the manuscript there are a number of confusions, e.g. between > Having said this, the author must have worked a considerable amount to > MY COMMENTS: > I did get the dimensional balances messed up on page 3. However, that > I do not believe the 55 components are arbitrarily set to zero. First, zero. It violates covariance by predetermining the geometry as opposed to letting the stress tensor and field equations determine the geometry. If you are ok with this, then whatever. I don't know if the original iteration of the theory did this. Spin is angular momentum - a derived quantity. Arguing that spin is a dimension seems rather silly. > 2) The deduction of the trace matter tensor in section 11. > Also, am I wrong about the 55 Christoffel components? I think this is Are you willfully tossing general covariance in the theory to the By pre-determining the geometry, you are choosing what you want to see You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: George Hammond <Nowhe...@notspam.org>
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 08:25:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Referee Report on Kaluza Klein Paper
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 00:47:26 -0500, "Jay R. Yablon"
[George Hammond] Dear J.R. Jablon: On page 8/9 of the above cited paper, you state: --------BLOCK QUOTE--------------------- Are you serious J.R; your paper provides an experimental >Thanks, >Jay. SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ===================================== You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "Jay R. Yablon" <jyab...@nycap.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:32:23 -0500
Local: Sat, Mar 1 2008 10:32 am
Subject: Re: Referee Report on Kaluza Klein Paper
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Thank you George! > The reviewer's dismissal of your paper as containing I try not to impugn motives to anybody else. But I appreciate the > "nothing original" is an egregious and deliberately > constructed flasehood and shabby, envious treatment of a > highly original math prodigy and stunningly original > physicist. complement. > Sure, the introduction of h-bar on page 3 is "ad hoc" but The h-bar error on page 3 is independent of and irrelevent to the > the subsequent analysisi and it's stunning scientific > consequence (quoted above) proves it to be supremely > justified since it turns out, as the author clearly > demonstrates, that Kaluza-Klein actually provides the > world's primary "quantum gravity" explanation of "intrinsic > spin", and hence identifies intrinsic spin as the KEY to the > ultimate unification of GR and QM! intrinsic spin demonstration. > Your fundamental Klauza-Klein result for intrinsic spin is I will, with humility, not disagree with that statement. > nothing short of a historic demonstration, and perhaps the > most fundamental "semiclassical quantum gravity result" in > all of modern Physics! > I think you have been rudely and shabbily mistreated by Again, I don't get into motives unless I have first hand information. > this physics journal, and that it's editor, and its review > board have shamefully rejected an enormously important > scientific paper! But, the historical record is there; so in the end, if my paper turns out to be as you and I think, that will be their loss. Actually, I can segregate the intrinsic spin proof from the whole rest Remember, back in the 1920s, Einstein and Kaluza and Klein had no clue > By the way, it takes one to know one, and I have I cannot say that I go for the "God stuff" on your blog, but we can have > experienced the same brazen rejection of fundamental > scientific discovery myself, so at least in that department > I know what I'm talking about. Chin up guy, at least you're > not subject to ridicule which is the treatment they give me! a theological discussion some other time. For me, it is amazing -- to the point of religiosity -- that nature Jay. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: Johnnie In The Billows <brightice2...@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 05:06:48 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Mar 1 2008 8:06 am
Subject: Re: Referee Report on Kaluza Klein Paper
On Mar 1, 5:47 am, "Jay R. Yablon" <jyab...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> Well, I have to give them credit for turnaround. The Kaluza Klein paper Well, well. Give Harvard university as your address on the next paper. > was not accepted. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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