The End of Zombie Science III
Pentcho Valev
The Ghost In The Machine
<pva...@yahoo.com>
wrote
on 8 Nov 2005 04:56:05 -0800
<1131454565.4...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
> http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/exchange-glance/Y05Y4460500Y8422460/102-8738350-3488911
>
> Pentcho Valev
>
Woo...a book....
"Requiem for Relativity
The Collapse of Special Relativity"
Purple text on white cover.
So...how does this disprove relativity?
--
#191, ewi...@earthlink.net
It's still legal to go .sigless.
Tom Roberts
> http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/exchange-glance/Y05Y4460500Y8422460/102-8738350-3488911
I suggest people not waste their money on inflamatory pamphlets
published anonymously. The likelihood is quite high that this is as
ridiculous as the opponents of relativity around here. And if this is
Valev flogging his own writing, that's even more reason to avoid it.
Tom Roberts tjro...@lucent.com
Helmut Wabnig
wrote:
>http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/exchange-glance/Y05Y4460500Y8422460/102-8738350-3488911
>
>Pentcho Valev
From that webpage:
>Requiem for Relativity the Collapse of Special Relativity
>1 used & new available from $14.00
>Editorial Reviews
>Book Description
>......................
> As a result, E=mc2 is no longer relative!
What a nonsense.
>........
> Q: Is the book just a complicated mathematical disproof of E=mc2?
>A: No
>. Quite the contrary.
So what.
w.
Dirk Van de moortel
"Pentcho Valev" <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1131454565.4...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/exchange-glance/Y05Y4460500Y8422460/102-8738350-3488911
| "...
| However, his most powerful argument against Special
| Relativity is none other than the equations of Special
| Relativity! As a result, E=m c^2 is no longer relative!
| The book's dimensions are 6 x 9 x 1/2 inches.
| ..."
"As a result, E=m c^2 is no longer relative!" :-)
Dirk Vdm
shuba
> "Pentcho Valev" <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> | "...
> | However, his most powerful argument against Special
> | Relativity is none other than the equations of Special
> | Relativity! As a result, E=m c^2 is no longer relative!
> | The book's dimensions are 6 x 9 x 1/2 inches.
> | ..."
>
> "As a result, E=m c^2 is no longer relative!" :-)
Tellin' you all de zombie troof.
---TIm Shuba---
Eric Gisse
Q: Who is Michael Strauss?
A: Good question. Mr. Strauss is a computer engineer who having worked
in the legal aspects of information technology, harbored an interest in
Physics from his early classes in the subject matter. He will show you
in no uncertain terms what happened that led to the acceptance of
Special Relativity and E=mc2 and why they are both in error.
***
Clearly Michael Strauss knows something everyone else doesn't. I find
it amusing that the cranks can't even agree on which way relativity is
wrong, just that it is.
>
>
>
> w.
Dirk Van de moortel
"shuba" <tim....@lycos.ScPoAmM> wrote in message news:tim.shuba-448FA...@corp.supernews.com...
Here am IZZZZ...
Dirk Vdm
Randy Poe
Eric Gisse wrote:
> Clearly Michael Strauss knows something everyone else doesn't. I find
> it amusing that the cranks can't even agree on which way relativity is
> wrong, just that it is.
The arguments between uber-cranks Henri Wilson and Androcles
are the most entertaining thing I've seen in a long while.
- Randy
Henri Wilson
Our friendly rivalry stems from Androcles professional jealousy over the fact
that MY program is infinitely superior to his and he cannot solve the basic
differential equation for SHM.
...but don't worry, we are always ready to unite against the common enemy.
>
> - Randy
HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
see: www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/variablestars.exe
"Sometimes I feel like a complete failure.
The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong".
Eric Gisse
Henri Wilson wrote:
> On 8 Nov 2005 12:35:06 -0800, "Randy Poe" <poespa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Eric Gisse wrote:
> >> Clearly Michael Strauss knows something everyone else doesn't. I find
> >> it amusing that the cranks can't even agree on which way relativity is
> >> wrong, just that it is.
> >
> >The arguments between uber-cranks Henri Wilson and Androcles
> >are the most entertaining thing I've seen in a long while.
>
> Our friendly rivalry stems from Androcles professional jealousy over the fact
> that MY program is infinitely superior to his and he cannot solve the basic
> differential equation for SHM.
Considering I am yet to see you use math of any sort beyond algebra
outside a computer program, I don't think either of you are capable of
solving it even with a flash light, road map, and a native guide.
You still can't provide the classical derivation of E=mc^2.
You still can't provide the derivation of the working equation(s)
behind your light deflection code.
You still can't provide the derivation of the reverse field bubble.
You still can't prove how your c+v theory is consistant with Maxwell's
equations.
You still can't derive the perhelion advance of Mecury [or the asteroid
Icarus].
You still can't derive the correct result for gravitational lensing.
Nor can you explain such objects as Einstein's cross using your theory.
Of course you will whine that you don't have time, as you have done at
least twice before. Yet you manage to post day in day out about the
greatness of your theory.
Of course you will whine about how "obvious" the results are, then you
change the subject and refuse to discuss further.
Of course you will then insult my intelligence for insulting the great
Henri Wilson by asking him to quantify his theory. Use that Applied
Mathematics degree for once in your life, for fucks sake.
Of course you will whine about how people will "steal my results" and
how you have already "said too much". Yet you KEEP TALKING.
>
> ...but don't worry, we are always ready to unite against the common enemy.
Which is anything you don't understand.
Eric Gisse
I never knew anyone who really understood relativity would make the
claim that E was an invariant.
brian a m stuckless
AWAY ON a SPACE-time WORLD-line, WHOooo-weeee.!!
Oh, What a MATCH.!! You ought to go-go google GROUP SEARCH THAT.!!
Tom explains to jOE 'HOW GR-ROCKETs can GR-STRetCH GR-POiNT-RODs':
(You attach ROCKETs one EACH to the TOP and BOTTOM of a GR POiNT).
(A GR-POiNT, with NO iNside or NO OUTside but a TEST mass ON TOP).
(A GR-POiNT, with NO related mass, on a WORLD-line in SPACE-time).
( Simply, attach TWO ROCKETs ..Tom Roberts says ..and STReeetCH. )
How does THAT relate to G_uv of mass ON a SPACE-time-WORLD-line.?!!
How does THAT relate to PYTHAGORAS E^2 = m^2 + p^2 EUCLiD PROOF.?!!
Where the m is GR mass ..which has NEVER been equated with G_uv.?!!
How does THAT relate to PYTHAGORAS a^2 = b^2 + c^2 EUCLiD PROOF.?!!
How does THAT relate iRONiCALLY to *NO mass*, just like GR, E^2.?!!
UNCLE AL said *it* TOOK "the other LONGER way round" GR geodesic.!!
Yes.!! And, h*f / c^2 ..gives the *NEW SI* CODATA, VARiABLE mass.!!
Yes.!! And, h*f / c^2 ..gives iNTRiNSiC, EQUiVALENT, photon mass.!!
Yes.!! And, h*f / c^2 ..gives TEST photon, *ABSORBED*, REST mass.!!
brian a m stuckless
Dirk Van de moortel
"Eric Gisse" <jow...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1131496963.1...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
That entirely depends on whether the m is the rest mass or not.
I'm sure that the author doesn't even know the concept.
He's the kind of "informed" layman who might be aware of the
fact that relativity is not about "Everything is Relative", but about
"E = m c^2" ;-)
Dirk Vdm
Henri Wilson
Geese, you can't do anything except copy statements you cannot understand from
a book.
Eric Gisse
Henri Wilson wrote:
> On 8 Nov 2005 16:40:44 -0800, "Eric Gisse" <jow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Henri Wilson wrote:
> >> On 8 Nov 2005 12:35:06 -0800, "Randy Poe" <poespa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Eric Gisse wrote:
> >> >> Clearly Michael Strauss knows something everyone else doesn't. I find
> >> >> it amusing that the cranks can't even agree on which way relativity is
> >> >> wrong, just that it is.
> >> >
> >> >The arguments between uber-cranks Henri Wilson and Androcles
> >> >are the most entertaining thing I've seen in a long while.
> >>
> >> Our friendly rivalry stems from Androcles professional jealousy over the fact
> >> that MY program is infinitely superior to his and he cannot solve the basic
> >> differential equation for SHM.
> >
> >Considering I am yet to see you use math of any sort beyond algebra
> >outside a computer program, I don't think either of you are capable of
> >solving it even with a flash light, road map, and a native guide.
> >
> >You still can't provide the classical derivation of E=mc^2.
You never did. Paul Anderson had to provide it, and you still found a
way to whine.
> >
> >You still can't provide the derivation of the working equation(s)
> >behind your light deflection code.
Still waiting.
> >
> >You still can't provide the derivation of the reverse field bubble.
Still waiting.
> >
> >You still can't prove how your c+v theory is consistant with Maxwell's
> >equations.
Still waiting. Even though I even took the time to transform them to
their seperate wave equations for you to solve, you still can't prove
it.
> >
> >You still can't derive the perhelion advance of Mecury [or the asteroid
> >Icarus].
Still waiting. No, your "multiple factors" line of shit doesn't count
because you haven't even explained what they are.
> >
> >You still can't derive the correct result for gravitational lensing.
> >Nor can you explain such objects as Einstein's cross using your theory.
> >
Still waiting.
> >Of course you will whine that you don't have time, as you have done at
> >least twice before. Yet you manage to post day in day out about the
> >greatness of your theory.
> >
> >Of course you will whine about how "obvious" the results are, then you
> >change the subject and refuse to discuss further.
> >
> >Of course you will then insult my intelligence for insulting the great
> >Henri Wilson by asking him to quantify his theory. Use that Applied
> >Mathematics degree for once in your life, for fucks sake.
> >
> >Of course you will whine about how people will "steal my results" and
> >how you have already "said too much". Yet you KEEP TALKING.
> >
> >>
> >> ...but don't worry, we are always ready to unite against the common enemy.
> >
> >Which is anything you don't understand.
>
> Geese, you can't do anything except copy statements you cannot understand from
> a book.
More irrelevant whining.
You can't even show how your theory is consistant with Maxwell's
equations.
No matter how often you insult my intelligence, you still evade my
questions.