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a light front does not have a position -seto

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rotchm

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May 21, 2013, 11:59:01 AM5/21/13
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In discussing closing speeds with idiot ken


> > Lets try something... Let two things travel with constant speeds v1
> > and v2 <> v1, wrt ground.
> > Their positions can thus be written  x1(t) = x_1 + v1*t and x2(t) =
> > x_2 + v2*t, RIGHT?


Idiot ken's reply:

> No....light do not have postiion.

kenseto

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May 21, 2013, 4:03:59 PM5/21/13
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Hey idiot....what and where is the position of the lead photon at any
timme????

rotchm

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May 21, 2013, 4:12:26 PM5/21/13
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Did you ever take a science course? Did you ever take a kinematics
course?

Let something travel with constant speed v1 wrt ground and with
initial position x_1.
What is the equation of its position?

Dirk Van de moortel

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May 21, 2013, 4:33:22 PM5/21/13
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You *never* heard of the Famous Setoberg Uncertainty Principle???
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/FirstPhoton.html
Where have you *been* the last decade?

Dirk Vdm

rotchm

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May 21, 2013, 4:37:09 PM5/21/13
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On May 21, 4:33 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"
<dirkvandemoor...@hotspam.not> wrote:

> You *never* heard of the Famous Setoberg Uncertainty Principle???
>    http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/FirstPhoton.html
> Where have you *been* the last decade?
>
> Dirk Vdm


Ahhh... I never took that course...thats why I dont follow seto's
pov.

Dirk Van de moortel

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May 21, 2013, 4:52:24 PM5/21/13
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Can a sane person, after having seen this, still generate the
energy to actually try to discuss anything with a blockhead
like Seto?
I mean, after TWO decades?
It's just like trying to explain something to Wilson, or Androcles,
or Jones...
Really. After two decades?
I really don't understand what you, and poutnik and vert think
to accomplish by constantly trying to talk to this idiot. Really.
It can't be just practice -- who, in their right mind, would like to
practice headbutting a telephone pole FGS?
Forgive, but I really don't get it.
Want to really annoy these idiots?
Ignore them. *All* of you.

Dirk Vdm


Absolutely Vertical

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May 21, 2013, 5:24:25 PM5/21/13
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On 5/21/2013 3:52 PM, Dirk Van de moortel wrote:

>
> Can a sane person, after having seen this, still generate the
> energy to actually try to discuss anything with a blockhead
> like Seto? I mean, after TWO decades?
> It's just like trying to explain something to Wilson, or Androcles,
> or Jones...
> Really. After two decades?
> I really don't understand what you, and poutnik and vert think
> to accomplish by constantly trying to talk to this idiot. Really.
> It can't be just practice -- who, in their right mind, would like to
> practice headbutting a telephone pole FGS?
> Forgive, but I really don't get it.
> Want to really annoy these idiots?
> Ignore them. *All* of you.
>

i never try to explain things to seto anymore. i just like to find the
word that he is using and for which he doesn't have the foggiest idea
what it means. it's an ever growing list, including zebras. then i poke
fun at him about him rejecting the definitions of words. i also like to
poke fun at him for not knowing simple things that 3rd graders know.
then i remind him that he doesn't know what 3rd graders know, and he's
_keenly_ aware of that.

wilson is different. all wilson is doing is playing games. stupid,
petty, repetitive games. since there is no interest in working through
an argument to resolution -- none whatsoever -- then it suffices to
remind him what a shameless, pathetic, infantile creature he is. and
he's _keenly_ aware of that.

jones is yet different. unlike wilson and seto, he can be embarrassed
when his foolishness is uncovered. he's more like robert winn, and he
desperately wants to prove he's smart and that he's right, by logical
argument. so it's fun to root out the obvious, simple, and stupid
mistake he is making _this time_ so that his frustration mounts.

in all cases, it's rubbing their ego-fueled foolishness in their faces.

i don't talk to androcles at all. he only aspires to be a horsefly.


rotchm

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May 21, 2013, 5:32:02 PM5/21/13
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On May 21, 4:52 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"
<dirkvandemoor...@hotspam.not> wrote:

> Can a sane person, after having seen this, still generate the
> energy to actually try to discuss anything with a blockhead
> like Seto?

As I said, Im on vacation so I have some time to spare. But seeing
seto's latest answers am claims such as

"I reject your definition of closing speed" and

"light doesnt have a position" does make me tend to go tend to other
things...

> I mean, after TWO decades?

Yes, thats bad.

> Ignore them. *All* of you.

But we need a NG clown. seto best fits the bill.



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space...@gmail.com

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May 21, 2013, 6:35:39 PM5/21/13
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On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:59:01 AM UTC-7, rotchm wrote:
> In discussing closing speeds with idiot ken
>

Light is changing position at C in empty space dimension.

Mitchell Raemsch

xxein

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May 21, 2013, 7:08:33 PM5/21/13
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xxein: Hmm. It seems you forgot spacemonkey. Tsk, tsk.

rotchm

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May 21, 2013, 7:13:35 PM5/21/13
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On May 21, 7:08 pm, xxein <xxe...@comcast.net> wrote:

> > > Ignore them. *All* of you.
>
> > But we need  a NG clown. seto best fits the bill.
>
> xxein:  Hmm.  It seems you forgot spacemonkey.  Tsk, tsk.

And dono...

Dirk Van de moortel

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May 22, 2013, 3:51:09 AM5/22/13
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:-)
Yet, this is essentially what you all are trying:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFeFalIFmOM
These idiots are headproof.

Dirk Vdm

Henry Wilson DSc.

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May 22, 2013, 7:14:30 AM5/22/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 16:24:25 -0500, Absolutely Vertical
<absolutel...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/21/2013 3:52 PM, Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
>
>>
>> Can a sane person, after having seen this, still generate the
>> energy to actually try to discuss anything with a blockhead
>> like Seto? I mean, after TWO decades?
>> It's just like trying to explain something to Wilson, or Androcles,
>> or Jones...
>> Really. After two decades?
>> I really don't understand what you, and poutnik and vert think
>> to accomplish by constantly trying to talk to this idiot. Really.
>> It can't be just practice -- who, in their right mind, would like to
>> practice headbutting a telephone pole FGS?
>> Forgive, but I really don't get it.
>> Want to really annoy these idiots?
>> Ignore them. *All* of you.
>>
>
>i never try to explain things to seto anymore.

You couldn't explain jumping to a blind frog...

>i just like to find the
>word that he is using and for which he doesn't have the foggiest idea
>what it means. it's an ever growing list, including zebras. then i poke
>fun at him about him rejecting the definitions of words. i also like to
>poke fun at him for not knowing simple things that 3rd graders know.
>then i remind him that he doesn't know what 3rd graders know, and he's
>_keenly_ aware of that.
>
>wilson is different. all wilson is doing is playing games. stupid,
>petty, repetitive games. since there is no interest in working through
>an argument to resolution -- none whatsoever -- then it suffices to
>remind him what a shameless, pathetic, infantile creature he is. and
>he's _keenly_ aware of that.
>
>jones is yet different. unlike wilson and seto, he can be embarrassed
>when his foolishness is uncovered. he's more like robert winn, and he
>desperately wants to prove he's smart and that he's right, by logical
>argument. so it's fun to root out the obvious, simple, and stupid
>mistake he is making _this time_ so that his frustration mounts.
>
>in all cases, it's rubbing their ego-fueled foolishness in their faces.

When are you guys going to face the facts? The game's up! Nobody believes
Einstein's crap any more. It will go down in history as nothing but a very
ingenious piece of science fiction that fooled the whole scientific world for
one hundred years before Henry the Great exposed the massive logical flaw
right at the beginning.

>
>i don't talk to androcles at all. he only aspires to be a horsefly.

Don't insult horseflies please...




Henry Wilson DSc.

Absolutely Vertical

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May 22, 2013, 10:17:31 AM5/22/13
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On 5/22/2013 6:14 AM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 16:24:25 -0500, Absolutely Vertical
> <absolutel...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>
>> wilson is different. all wilson is doing is playing games. stupid,
>> petty, repetitive games. since there is no interest in working through
>> an argument to resolution -- none whatsoever -- then it suffices to
>> remind him what a shameless, pathetic, infantile creature he is. and
>> he's _keenly_ aware of that.
>>
>>
>> in all cases, it's rubbing their ego-fueled foolishness in their faces.
>
> When are you guys going to face the facts? The game's up! Nobody believes
> Einstein's crap any more. It will go down in history as nothing but a very
> ingenious piece of science fiction that fooled the whole scientific world for
> one hundred years before Henry the Great exposed the massive logical flaw
> right at the beginning.
>

wilson compulsively responds in a way that illustrates exactly what i
was talking about.

Henry Wilson DSc.

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May 22, 2013, 11:44:00 AM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 09:17:31 -0500, Absolutely Vertical
Is this just a compulsion:
http://www.scisite.info/paradox.txt'

No dingleberry has found a flaw in it.

Henry Wilson DSc.

Absolutely Vertical

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May 22, 2013, 12:43:56 PM5/22/13
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yes, it is. so is daring people to find a flaw in it.
stupid, petty, and repetitive -- confirmed.
shameless, pathetic, infantile -- confirmed.

and you're _keenly_ aware of it.

Henry Wilson DSc.

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May 23, 2013, 6:10:00 AM5/23/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:43:56 -0500, Absolutely Vertical
Don't just rant and rave....find the flaw...

Henry Wilson DSc.
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