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HVAC  
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From: HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:45:46 -0400
Local: Tues, Jul 31 2012 10:45 am
Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On 7/31/2012 10:01 AM, mpc755 wrote:

>> But space isn't 'nothing at all'.  It's space.

> Aether has mass.

Sure it does.

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From: Big Dog <big.fing....@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:46:21 -0500
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On 7/31/2012 9:42 AM, mpc755 wrote:

> Big Dog wrote:

>>> Physicists deny the physical evidence of the particle always being
>>> detected entering, traveling through and exiting a single slit in a
>>> double slit experiment.

>> No, they don't. It's INCLUDED in their explanations.

> Many worlds? Particles which don't exist until they are detected?
> Particles which travel an infinite number of paths simultaneously?

> Why don't you explain what occurs in a double slit experiment.

Because this is not the venue to get those explanations.

Physicists have explanations for what physically occurs in nature, and
they are in readily available venues. Go to those venues for the
explanations.

> You don't because you can't.

Sure, I can. This is not the venue.

Why don't you go to the venues where the explanations are available? Why
do you whine incessantly about your own refusal to fetch the explanations?


 
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From: Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:47:13 -0500
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:15:34 -0500, Big Dog

<big.fing....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 7/31/2012 8:24 AM, Brad Guth wrote:

>> No doubt the aether is real, and it may even represent the infinite
>> quantum velocity of gravity that forever radiates the existence of
>> everything in all directions simultaneously.

>Nice gobbledygook. What the fuck does "quantum velocity of gravity" even
>MEAN?

That the Guthball is batshit insane, of course.

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From: mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:51:35 -0400
Local: Tues, Jul 31 2012 10:51 am
Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether

'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/dec/HQ_11-402_AGU_Voyager.html

"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like cars
piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity of the
magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar space is
compacting it."

It is the aether which is displaced by the matter the solar system
consists of which is pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
the solar system.

'Offset between dark matter and ordinary matter: evidence from a sample
of 38 lensing clusters of galaxies'
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1004/1004.1475v1.pdf

"Our data strongly support the idea that the gravitational potential in
clusters is mainly due to a non-baryonic fluid, and any exotic field in
gravitational theory must resemble that of CDM fields very closely."

The offset is due to the galaxy clusters moving through the aether. The
analogy is a submarine moving through the water. You are under water.
Two miles away from you are many lights. Moving between you and the
lights one mile away is a submarine. The submarine displaces the water.
The state of displacement of the water causes the center of the lensing
of the light propagating through the water to be offset from the center
of the submarine itself. The offset between the center of the lensing of
the light propagating through the water displaced by the submarine and
the center of the submarine itself is going to remain the same as the
submarine moves through the water. The submarine continually displaces
different regions of the water. The state of the water connected to and
neighboring the submarine remains the same as the submarine moves
through the water even though it is not the same water the submarine
continually displaces. This is what is occurring physically in nature as
the galaxy clusters move through the aether.

'Surprise! IBEX Finds No Bow �Shock� Outside our Solar System'
http://www.universetoday.com/95094/surprise-ibex-finds-no-bow-shock-o...

'�While bow shocks certainly exist ahead of many other stars, we�re
finding that our Sun�s interaction doesn�t reach the critical threshold
to form a shock,ďż˝ said Dr. David McComas, principal investigator of the
IBEX mission, �so a wave is a more accurate depiction of what�s
happening ahead of our heliosphere ďż˝ much like the wave made by the bow
of a boat as it glides through the water.ďż˝'

The wave ahead of our heliosphere is an aether displacement wave. This
is evidence of a moving 'particle', the solar system, having an
associated aether wave.

'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...

"Astronomers using NASA's Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two galaxy
clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark mater, which is somewhat
similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the water."

The 'pond' consists of aether. The moving 'particles' are the galaxy
clusters. The ripple is an aether displacement wave. The ripple is a
gravitational wave. This is also evidence of a moving 'particle', the
galaxy clusters, having an associated aether wave.

'Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image '
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html

"This technique revealed the dark matter in Abell 520 had collected into
a "dark core," containing far fewer galaxies than would be expected if
the dark matter and galaxies were anchored together. Most of the
galaxies apparently have sailed far away from the collision. "This
result is a puzzle," said astronomer James Jee of the University of
California in Davis, lead author of paper about the results available
online in The Astrophysical Journal. "Dark matter is not behaving as
predicted, and it's not obviously clear what is going on. It is
difficult to explain this Hubble observation with the current theories
of galaxy formation and dark matter.""

The dark matter core does not defy explanation. The dark matter core is
not a puzzle. The dark matter core is not difficult to explain. It is
obviously clear what is going on.

Dark matter and galaxies are not anchored together. Matter moves through
and displaces the aether.

'Giant black hole kicked out of home galaxy'
http://www.astronomy.com/en/News-Observing/News/2012/06/Giant%20black...

"But these new data support the idea that gravitational waves ďż˝ ripples
in the fabric of space first predicted by Albert Einstein but never
detected directly ďż˝ can exert an extremely powerful force."

The fabric of space is the aether.

Gravitational waves are ripples in the aether.

What ripples when galaxy clusters collide is what waves in a double slit
experiment; the aether.

Einstein's gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave.

They are both aether displacement waves.


 
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 More options Jul 31 2012, 10:53 am
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From: mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:53:47 -0400
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether

I am able to explain it right here.

Aether has mass and physically occupies three dimensional space.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.

In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit
and the associated aether wave passes through both.


 
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From: Big Dog <big.fing....@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:03:36 -0500
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On 7/31/2012 9:53 AM, mpc755 wrote:

Who the fuck cares?

The explanation of those things by physicists are in different venues
than here.
Nobody cares that you post your explanations in one venue, which is
completely unrelated to and unconnected with the venues where the REAL
explanations are.

If you posted your explanations on flyers stapled to telephone poles,
would it be of interest to physicists that you could do that? Would your
actions then be tantamount to a challenge to physicists to also staple
their explanations to telephone poles, just because you chose a stupid
venue?


 
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From: mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:09:46 -0400
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether

If you could explain it here you would.

You don't because you can't.

I can, so I will.

Aether has mass and physically occupies three dimensional space.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.

In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit
and the associated aether wave passes through both.


 
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From: HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:10:38 -0400
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On 7/31/2012 10:51 AM, mpc755 wrote:

That's YOUR claim. The VAST majority of astrophysicists disagree.

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From: mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:24:07 -0400
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether

As far as I understand, the VAST majority of astrophysicists believe
particles of matter which exist in quantities less than in any vacuum
artificially created on Earth which exist where Voyager is are able to
push back and exert inward pressure toward matter.

So, just like gravity and what occurs physically in nature in a double
slit experiment, mainstream physicists are clueless in terms of
understanding what occurs physically in nature to cause interstellar
space to be able to push back and exert inward pressure toward matter.

All because mainstream physics denies understanding aether has mass.


 
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From: mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jul 31 2012 10:05 am
Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On Jul 31, 9:15 am, Big Dog <big.fing....@gmail.com> wrote:

Read the following in order to understand what occurs physically in
nature to cause gravity and the observed behaviors in a double slit
experiment.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated aether wave passes through both.


 
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From: "G=EMC^2" <herbertglazi...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:07:54 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On Jul 31, 10:07 am, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:

That is the kicker. What we are saying we see a "single particle" is
in reality "Two particles" Yes the share a wave between them. The
partition making the two slits cuts the wave in half,and this shows
the interference(wave picture of light)  My idea is reality. It is
simple. It is easy to understand.  Ok you like Feynman's "Some over
all paths"  That is tricky stuff.   TreBert

 
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 More options Jul 31 2012, 1:18 pm
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:18:24 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On Jul 31, 10:07 am, "G=EMC^2" <herbertglazi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Feyman had all bases (paths) covered.

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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:38:55 -0400
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On 7/31/2012 9:15 AM, HVAC wrote:

> On 7/31/2012 2:47 AM, bjacoby wrote:
>> And we honestly don't care what you say or even "think".

> "We" ?

All your so-called "fans" at least the ones with an IQ higher than
single digits.

> "I post, therefore I am".

Spoken like a true gummint "srategic internet operator". Tell us about
your other 17 "personalities".

> What difference does it make? No matter who or what I am, my thoughts
> are posted for all to read.

"your" thoughts"? We don't think so. The thoughts they pay you to post,
maybe.

> And let me take this opportunity to state categorically that I do not
> currently work for any known government agency or organization.

Same old, same old. "categorically deny" is ALWAYS a sure sign among
politicians that they are lying their asses off.

And we would really like to hear just which "unknown" agency you work
for. You can tell us. It won't violate your oath...much.

> "We all"? What is MY party line, BJ?

I'm not going to repeat it one more time, ACDC. You do that often enough
yourself!

 
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:40:21 -0400
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On 7/31/2012 9:21 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:

> In macro realm we relate aether to a 100% vacuum. In the micro realm
> the aether is a dynamic medium. It all come down to location,location
> location  TreBert

The aether real estate theory!  That is Nobel material FOR SURE!

 
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:43:29 -0400
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On 7/31/2012 9:23 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:

> Slit experiment proves my theory "Particles move in pairs with
> attached wave"  TreBert

TreeBert, you may be self-taught with a grade school education but you
sure know SCIENCE!

I get it, when you have a double slit experiment you get interfence
because particles move in pairs. One goes through one slit, the other
particle goes through the other slit and the attached waves give you the
pattern!  GENIUS!

Oh wait, TreeBert. What if I have THREE slits?  Maybe you need a new
theory.


 
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From: mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:46:42 -0400
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether

The analogy is a boat and its bow wave. In a double slit experiment
performed with a boat the boat travels through a single slit and the bow
wave passes through both.

The boat is analogous to the particle and the bow wave is analogous to
the aether wave.

In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit
and the associated aether wave passes through both.


 
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From: HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:01:20 -0400
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On 7/31/2012 1:38 PM, bjacoby wrote:

>> "I post, therefore I am".

> Spoken like a true gummint "srategic internet operator". Tell us about
> your other 17 "personalities".

I don't post under any other names. Some would say that even under ONE
name, I post too much.

>> What difference does it make? No matter who or what I am, my thoughts
>> are posted for all to read.

> "your" thoughts"? We don't think so. The thoughts they pay you to post,
> maybe.

My thoughts are my own. If they happen to be in agreement with certain
agencies or organizations, is that MY fault?  No.

>> And let me take this opportunity to state categorically that I do not
>> currently work for any known government agency or organization.

> Same old, same old. "categorically deny" is ALWAYS a sure sign among
> politicians that they are lying their asses off.

*I* am not a politician.

> And we would really like to hear just which "unknown" agency you work
> for. You can tell us. It won't violate your oath...much.

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/3/6/2/0/3/9/webimg/420485795_tp.jpg

Happy now?

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From: HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:03:24 -0400
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On 7/31/2012 1:40 PM, bjacoby wrote:

> On 7/31/2012 9:21 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:

>> In macro realm we relate aether to a 100% vacuum. In the micro realm
>> the aether is a dynamic medium. It all come down to location,location
>> location TreBert

> The aether real estate theory! That is Nobel material FOR SURE!

LOL!

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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:24:30 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On Jul 31, 1:43 pm, bjacoby <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:

> On 7/31/2012 9:23 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:

> > Slit experiment proves my theory "Particles move in pairs with
> > attached wave"  TreBert

> TreeBert, you may be self-taught with a grade school education but you
> sure know SCIENCE!

> I get it, when you have a double slit experiment you get interfence
> because particles move in pairs. One goes through one slit, the other
> particle goes through the other slit and the attached waves give you the
> pattern!  GENIUS!

> Oh wait, TreeBert. What if I have THREE slits?  Maybe you need a new
> theory.

A third slit could fit but not all the time.reason it comes under the
uncertainty principle. For a photon it can go through half million
holes at once. That is in the books. TreBert  PS my theory works for
buckballs and virus. All proven.  Yes I am  clever.  I know my
science.

 
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From: HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:41:03 -0400
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On 7/31/2012 2:24 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:

>> TreeBert, you may be self-taught with a grade school education but you
>> sure know SCIENCE!

>> I get it, when you have a double slit experiment you get interfence
>> because particles move in pairs. One goes through one slit, the other
>> particle goes through the other slit and the attached waves give you the
>> pattern!  GENIUS!

>> Oh wait, TreeBert. What if I have THREE slits?  Maybe you need a new
>> theory.

> A third slit could fit but not all the time.reason it comes under the
> uncertainty principle. For a photon it can go through half million
> holes at once. That is in the books.

Does anyone here believe that Bert has ever read a book?
(Cue the crickets)

>  PS my theory works for
> buckballs and virus. All proven.  Yes I am  clever.  I know my
> science.

Bert: You are certainly a classic!

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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:48:54 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On Jul 31, 10:46 am, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey, that's my theory!

Double-A


 
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 More options Jul 31 2012, 2:59 pm
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From: mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:59:00 -0400
Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether

In aether displacement, aether has mass and physically occupies three
dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced
aether pushes back and exerts inward pressure toward matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter
is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated aether wave passes through both.


 
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Olrik  
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 More options Jul 31 2012, 4:18 pm
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From: Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:18:15 -0400
Local: Tues, Jul 31 2012 4:18 pm
Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
Le 2012-07-31 03:03, bjacoby a crit :

Oh, indeed...

 
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 More options Aug 1 2012, 12:53 am
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From: Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:53:23 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 1 2012 12:53 am
Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On Jul 31, 7:15 am, Big Dog <big.fing....@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 7/31/2012 8:24 AM, Brad Guth wrote:

> > No doubt the aether is real, and it may even represent the infinite
> > quantum velocity of gravity that forever radiates the existence of
> > everything in all directions simultaneously.

> Nice gobbledygook. What the fuck does "quantum velocity of gravity" even
> MEAN?

Just pick your own FUD, and go for it.

Those that do not believe in aether, are fee to do so.

Can you objectively prove the velocity of gravity isn't faster than c?


 
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 More options Aug 1 2012, 1:34 am
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From: mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:34:56 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 1 2012 1:34 am
Subject: Re: We are all moving through the aether
On Aug 1, 12:53 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

The aether changes state at 'c'. Therefore, gravitational changes
occur at 'c'.

 
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