The universe is, or the local universe is in, a jet stream
mpc755
http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
The red lines represent the 'expanding' universe.
The gray cloud represents the Rindler Horizon:
YBM
> Here is an image of the universe (or the local universe):
>
> http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
It is not.
You are an idiot.
jdawe
Expanding
or
Contracting
are equal opposing forces.
Both are equally required for the other to exist.
Therefore, the universe is not in a 'single' state 'expanding'.
There is as much:
Expansion as there is contraction.
or
Contraction as there is expansion.
-Josh.
BURT
The universe is galaxies.
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
Correct. The aether and matter which falls past the event horizon of a
black hole is ejected into the jet stream. The (local) universe is
just a larger version of this behavior.
jdawe
In a galaxy there is more:
Orbiting ( In Motion )
than
Centre ( At Rest )
Therefore there is an inverse to this which is more:
Centre ( At Rest )
Than
Orbiting ( In Motion )
which is our solar system\atoms etc.
-Josh.
mpc755
It cannot be known if the center of a black hole is at rest or not.
jdawe
>
> - Show quoted text -
A black hole is the 'centre'.
'centre' is just another way of saying 'At Rest'.
-Josh.
mpc755
Center is another way of saying middle. Is the center of a merry-go-
round at rest?
jdawe
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yes.
Just the same as the centre of a tornado or "eye of a storm" is At
Rest.
Rememeber, In Motion or At Rest uses:
Linear
or
Circular
Movement to be At Rest.
-Josh.
BURT
>
> - Show quoted text -
Black holes don't exist.
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
You cannot know if a black hole is at rest or not because you have no
way of testing it.
PD
> Here is an image of the universe (or the local universe):
>
> http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
>
> The red lines represent the 'expanding' universe.
Note that the observed expansion of our universe is isotropic, wholly
unlike the red lines in the picture.
mpc755
> On Nov 18, 7:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Here is an image of the universe (or the local universe):
>
> >http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
>
> > The red lines represent the 'expanding' universe.
>
> Note that the observed expansion of our universe is isotropic, wholly
> unlike the red lines in the picture.
>
The red lines represent the movement of expansion of the emitting jet
stream which consists completely of aether at the point of emission
and later on the aether compresses into matter. Even though everything
within the jet stream is swirling and expanding, it is the aether
which is swirling and expanding and since light travels at 'c'
relative to the aether, everything appears, and is, isotropic from our
vantage point.
Here is an image of the jet stream:
http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
In the dark ages, there is only aether. The aether and eventually the
matter within the jet stream is swirling as it is expanding from the
point of emission. The image is not of a single occurrence but of a
continuing process. The image is missing the water fall effect where
the swirling and expanding aether and matter falls back towards the
Rindler Horizon and is eventually re-emitted.
BURT
>
> - Show quoted text -
Galaxies expand.
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
BURT
> On Nov 19, 11:33 am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 18, 7:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Here is an image of the universe (or the local universe):
> > >http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
> > > The red lines represent the 'expanding' universe.
> > Note that the observed expansion of our universe is isotropic, wholly
> > unlike the red lines in the picture.
>
> The red lines represent the movement of expansion of the emitting jet
> stream which consists completely of aether at the point of emission
> and later on the aether compresses into matter. Even though everything
> within the jet stream is swirling and expanding, it is the aether
> which is swirling and expanding and since light travels at 'c'
> relative to the aether, everything appears, and is, isotropic from our
> vantage point.
>
> Here is an image of the jet stream:
>
> http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
That clearly is a mistaken analogy of the universes expansion. And you
are interpreting it wrong to.
Mitch Raemsch
>
> In the dark ages, there is only aether. The aether and eventually the
> matter within the jet stream is swirling as it is expanding from the
> point of emission. The image is not of a single occurrence but of a
> continuing process. The image is missing the water fall effect where
> the swirling and expanding aether and matter falls back towards the
> Rindler Horizon and is eventually re-emitted.
>
>
>
> > > The gray cloud represents the Rindler Horizon:
mpc755
> On Nov 18, 7:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Here is an image of the universe (or the local universe):
> >http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
> > The red lines represent the 'expanding' universe.
> Note that the observed expansion of our universe is isotropic, wholly
> unlike the red lines in the picture.
The red lines represent the movement of expansion of the emitting jet
stream which consists completely of aether at the point of emission
and later on the aether compresses into matter. Even though everything
within the jet stream is swirling and expanding, it is the aether
which is swirling and expanding and since light travels at 'c'
relative to the aether, everything appears, and is, isotropic from our
vantage point.
Here is an image of the jet stream:
http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
In the dark ages, there is only aether. The aether and eventually the
YBM
> On Nov 19, 11:33 am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 18, 7:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Here is an image of the universe (or the local universe):
>>> http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
>>> The red lines represent the 'expanding' universe.
>> Note that the observed expansion of our universe is isotropic, wholly
>> unlike the red lines in the picture.
>
> The red lines represent the movement of expansion of the emitting jet
> stream which consists completely of aether at the point of emission
> and later on the aether compresses into matter. Even though everything
> within the jet stream is swirling and expanding, it is the aether
> which is swirling and expanding and since light travels at 'c'
> relative to the aether, everything appears, and is, isotropic from our
> vantage point.
>
> Here is an image of the jet stream:
>
> http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> In the dark ages, there is only aether. The aether and eventually the
> matter within the jet stream is swirling as it is expanding from the
> point of emission.
Ho shut up, crank. Learn!
mpc755
mpc755
The Big Bang is more likely the Big Ongoing.
BURT
>
> - Show quoted text -
There is an Absolute Beginning. This is better scientific terminology
than "the Big Bang."
Heinz Pagels called it The Search for the Beginning of time.
Hypersphere cosmology comes first before time but not aether.
Mitch raemsch
mpc755
Time starts at the emission point of the jet stream. Aether exits
throughout.
mpc755
Most, if not all, paths lead back to the emission point. That is why
it appears as though the cosmic background radiation surrounds us.
PD
> On Nov 19, 11:33 am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 18, 7:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Here is an image of the universe (or the local universe):
>
> > >http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
>
> > > The red lines represent the 'expanding' universe.
>
> > Note that the observed expansion of our universe is isotropic, wholly
> > unlike the red lines in the picture.
>
> The red lines represent the movement of expansion of the emitting jet
> stream which consists completely of aether at the point of emission
> and later on the aether compresses into matter. Even though everything
> within the jet stream is swirling and expanding, it is the aether
> which is swirling and expanding and since light travels at 'c'
> relative to the aether, everything appears, and is, isotropic from our
> vantage point.
Sorry, but the red lines in the image are not isotropic. The expansion
is measurably isotropic.
mpc755
> On Nov 20, 8:35 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 19, 11:33 am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 18, 7:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Here is an image of the universe (or the local universe):
>
> > > >http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
>
> > > > The red lines represent the 'expanding' universe.
>
> > > Note that the observed expansion of our universe is isotropic, wholly
> > > unlike the red lines in the picture.
>
> > The red lines represent the movement of expansion of the emitting jet
> > stream which consists completely of aether at the point of emission
> > and later on the aether compresses into matter. Even though everything
> > within the jet stream is swirling and expanding, it is the aether
> > which is swirling and expanding and since light travels at 'c'
> > relative to the aether, everything appears, and is, isotropic from our
> > vantage point.
>
> Sorry, but the red lines in the image are not isotropic. The expansion
> is measurably isotropic.
>
Yes, the expansion is measurably isotropic because we are in the
expansion. The image you skipped over is more likely a jet stream and
an ongoing process than a single event:
http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
PD
> On Nov 24, 10:30 am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 20, 8:35 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 19, 11:33 am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 18, 7:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Here is an image of the universe (or the local universe):
>
> > > > >http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
>
> > > > > The red lines represent the 'expanding' universe.
>
> > > > Note that the observed expansion of our universe is isotropic, wholly
> > > > unlike the red lines in the picture.
>
> > > The red lines represent the movement of expansion of the emitting jet
> > > stream which consists completely of aether at the point of emission
> > > and later on the aether compresses into matter. Even though everything
> > > within the jet stream is swirling and expanding, it is the aether
> > > which is swirling and expanding and since light travels at 'c'
> > > relative to the aether, everything appears, and is, isotropic from our
> > > vantage point.
>
> > Sorry, but the red lines in the image are not isotropic. The expansion
> > is measurably isotropic.
>
> Yes, the expansion is measurably isotropic because we are in the
> expansion.
Sorry, but an observer at any point in your image with the red lines
will not see the expansion as isotropic.
mpc755
> On Nov 24, 9:32 am, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 24, 10:30 am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 20, 8:35 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 19, 11:33 am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Nov 18, 7:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Here is an image of the universe (or the local universe):
>
> > > > > >http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
>
> > > > > > The red lines represent the 'expanding' universe.
>
> > > > > Note that the observed expansion of our universe is isotropic, wholly
> > > > > unlike the red lines in the picture.
>
> > > > The red lines represent the movement of expansion of the emitting jet
> > > > stream which consists completely of aether at the point of emission
> > > > and later on the aether compresses into matter. Even though everything
> > > > within the jet stream is swirling and expanding, it is the aether
> > > > which is swirling and expanding and since light travels at 'c'
> > > > relative to the aether, everything appears, and is, isotropic from our
> > > > vantage point.
>
> > > Sorry, but the red lines in the image are not isotropic. The expansion
> > > is measurably isotropic.
>
> > Yes, the expansion is measurably isotropic because we are in the
> > expansion.
>
> Sorry, but an observer at any point in your image with the red lines
> will not see the expansion as isotropic.
>
What in the following image could not be a jet stream?
http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
PD
All of it.
Just because a picture reminds you of a picture of something else,
does not mean that one is explained by the other.
http://www.emwa.com.au/img/french%20tables/LHallTableTO1-1.jpg
http://thesaurus.maths.org/mmkb/media/png/Pi.png
mpc755
Incorrect. The image is of a jet stream.
It is more likely the 'Big Ongoing' than it is the 'Big Bang'.
It is more likely a continuous process than the Universe emanated from
an infinitesimally small point in nowhere instantly.
PD
You asked me what in that image could not be a jet stream, and I told
you.
You *think* otherwise, as though "looking like" can imply "is".
>
> It is more likely the 'Big Ongoing' than it is the 'Big Bang'.
Yes, current theory says the expansion is ongoing.
The term "Big Bang" means the onset of that expansion, not the whole
expansion itself.
>
> It is more likely a continuous process than the Universe emanated from
> an infinitesimally small point in nowhere instantly.
It doesn't really matter what you think is more likely.
Observations say everything is receding isotropically. Run that film
loop backwards and it NECESSARILY implies (no alternatives) that
everything approaches a common point at some finite time in the past.
If you're having trouble understanding why that is a NECESSARY
conclusion from observations (no escape from it), then ask and someone
might explain it to you.
PD
mpc755
Yes, aether (i.e. matter in its base state) is continually being
emitted into the jet stream.
>
>
> > It is more likely a continuous process than the Universe emanated from
> > an infinitesimally small point in nowhere instantly.
>
> It doesn't really matter what you think is more likely.
> Observations say everything is receding isotropically. Run that film
> loop backwards and it NECESSARILY implies (no alternatives) that
> everything approaches a common point at some finite time in the past.
> If you're having trouble understanding why that is a NECESSARY
> conclusion from observations (no escape from it), then ask and someone
> might explain it to you.
>
Yes, everything approaches a common point. The emission point (i.e.
origination point of aether) into the jet stream. The emission into
the jet stream continues. It is not a single event.
PD
> On Nov 24, 10:30 am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 20, 8:35 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 19, 11:33 am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 18, 7:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Here is an image of the universe (or the local universe):
>
> > > > >http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
>
> > > > > The red lines represent the 'expanding' universe.
>
> > > > Note that the observed expansion of our universe is isotropic, wholly
> > > > unlike the red lines in the picture.
>
> > > The red lines represent the movement of expansion of the emitting jet
> > > stream which consists completely of aether at the point of emission
> > > and later on the aether compresses into matter. Even though everything
> > > within the jet stream is swirling and expanding, it is the aether
> > > which is swirling and expanding and since light travels at 'c'
> > > relative to the aether, everything appears, and is, isotropic from our
> > > vantage point.
>
> > Sorry, but the red lines in the image are not isotropic. The expansion
> > is measurably isotropic.
>
> Yes, the expansion is measurably isotropic because we are in the
> expansion.
The stream is not isotropic at any point in that picture.
> The image you skipped over is more likely a jet stream and
> an ongoing process than a single event:
>
> http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Here is an image of the jet stream:
>
> > >http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> > > In the dark ages, there is only aether. The aether and eventually the
> > > matter within the jet stream is swirling as it is expanding from the
> > > point of emission. The image is not of a single occurrence but of a
> > > continuing process. The image is missing the water fall effect where
> > > the swirling and expanding aether and matter falls back towards the
> > > Rindler Horizon and is eventually re-emitted.
>
> > > > > The gray cloud represents the Rindler Horizon:
>
> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
PD
At least "steady state cosmology" is isotropic. You may want to look
it up and find out why we know steady state cosmology is wrong.
mpc755
> On Nov 24, 9:32 am, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 24, 10:30 am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 20, 8:35 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 19, 11:33 am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Nov 18, 7:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Here is an image of the universe (or the local universe):
>
> > > > > >http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
>
> > > > > > The red lines represent the 'expanding' universe.
>
> > > > > Note that the observed expansion of our universe is isotropic, wholly
> > > > > unlike the red lines in the picture.
>
> > > > The red lines represent the movement of expansion of the emitting jet
> > > > stream which consists completely of aether at the point of emission
> > > > and later on the aether compresses into matter. Even though everything
> > > > within the jet stream is swirling and expanding, it is the aether
> > > > which is swirling and expanding and since light travels at 'c'
> > > > relative to the aether, everything appears, and is, isotropic from our
> > > > vantage point.
>
> > > Sorry, but the red lines in the image are not isotropic. The expansion
> > > is measurably isotropic.
>
> > Yes, the expansion is measurably isotropic because we are in the
> > expansion.
>
> The stream is not isotropic at any point in that picture.
>
You're saying the following is inaccurate?
http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
Because the above image is of a jet stream.
> > The image you skipped over is more likely a jet stream and
> > an ongoing process than a single event:
>
> >http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> > > > Here is an image of the jet stream:
>
> > > >http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> > > > In the dark ages, there is only aether. The aether and eventually the
> > > > matter within the jet stream is swirling as it is expanding from the
> > > > point of emission. The image is not of a single occurrence but of a
> > > > continuing process. The image is missing the water fall effect where
> > > > the swirling and expanding aether and matter falls back towards the
> > > > Rindler Horizon and is eventually re-emitted.
>
> > > > > > The gray cloud represents the Rindler Horizon:
>
> > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics-Hide quoted text -
BURT
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Please. Science doesn't know what it is talking about.
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steady_State_theory
"For most cosmologists, the refutation of the steady-state theory came
with the discovery of the cosmic microwave background radiation in
1965, which was predicted by the Big Bang theory. Stephen Hawking said
that the fact that microwave radiation had been found, and that it was
thought to be left over from the Big Bang, was "the final nail in the
coffin of the steady-state theory." Within the steady state theory
this background radiation is the result of light from ancient stars
which has been scattered by galactic dust."
The above is not what is occurring in nature. The microwave radiation
is not background radiation as the result of light from ancient stars
which has been scattered by galactic dust. Nor is the microwave
radiation 'left over' from the Big Bang.
The microwave radiation is what we see when we look back towards the
emission point in the jet stream. The points in the image above
designated as Inflation and the Afterglow Light Pattern. And since
everywhere, or almost everywhere, we look we are looking back towards
the emission point, that is why it appears "there is a faint
background glow, almost exactly the same in all directions".
The Big Bang is incorrect. It was not a single occurrence. The Big
Bang is an ongoing process. Nature is not "steady state cosmology".
Nature is not a single Big Bang event. Nature is an ongoing jet stream
which everything we see exists in.
BURT
>
> - Show quoted text -
There are two background radiations from the light of the end of the
Big Bang or Absolute beginning. It has been stretched with space.
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
This is an image of a jet stream: http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
BURT
>
> - Show quoted text -
Science thinks it sees black holes but it doesn't. Your example is the
same.
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
> same.
>
> Mitch Raemsch
Incorrect. The image is of a jet stream:
BURT
mpc755
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> No.
The following is an image of a jet stream:
YBM
At least you get something right in this fool thread.
(BTW it's easy, just say "no" to anything demented "mpc" would write.
The same way he could say at least one thing right by saying "no" to
anything you write - but this one)
BURT
> BURT a écrit :
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > No.
>
> At least you get something right in this fool thread.
Science doesn't know what it is talking about.
Mitch Raemsch
>
> (BTW it's easy, just say "no" to anything demented "mpc" would write.
> The same way he could say at least one thing right by saying "no" to
> anything you write - but this one)- Hide quoted text -
YBM
Do you really think that this idiocy would become true if you write it
down one hundred times?
BURT
> mpc755 a écrit :
> >>> - Show quoted text -
> >> No.
>
> > The following is an image of a jet stream:
>
> >http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> Do you really think that this idiocy would become true if you write it
>
> - Show quoted text -
Go away Your Bowel Movement.
Mitch Raemsch
YBM
> On Nov 24, 7:02 pm, YBM <ybm...@nooos.fr.invalid> wrote:
Fuck off Mitch: you cannot forbid sane people to make fun of cranks
like you and mpc here; this very group has been created for this
purpose.
mpc755
>
> The following is an image of a jet stream:
>
> http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
Since everything we see emanated from the emission point in the jet
stream, when we look through our telescopes, most, if not all, paths
lead back to the emission point and that is why it appears as though
the background radiation is the same all around us because where ever
we look we are winding up looking at the same 'background' radiation
which is really the point of emission into the jet stream. In the
image above, it is the Afterglow Pattern which we mistake for being
all around us.
mpc755
In the above image, the 'Dark Energy Accelerated Expansion' is the
start of heading towards the 'water fall' and the falling back towards
the Rindler Horizon:
PD
That's not what the caption says.
Are you saying the following is inaccurate?
http://whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/baby-echidna.jpg
Because the above image is of a sofa cushion.
>
> > > The image you skipped over is more likely a jet stream and
> > > an ongoing process than a single event:
>
> > >http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> > > > > Here is an image of the jet stream:
>
> > > > >http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
>
> > > > > In the dark ages, there is only aether. The aether and eventually the
> > > > > matter within the jet stream is swirling as it is expanding from the
> > > > > point of emission. The image is not of a single occurrence but of a
> > > > > continuing process. The image is missing the water fall effect where
> > > > > the swirling and expanding aether and matter falls back towards the
> > > > > Rindler Horizon and is eventually re-emitted.
>
> > > > > > > The gray cloud represents the Rindler Horizon:
>
> > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics-Hidequoted text -
PD
That's what's called the "steady state cosmology", what you just
described.
Now you can find out why the CMBR shows that the steady state
cosmology is a no-go.
In case you're not getting the point, your "idea" is not a new one,
not original, and also not right. Intelligent people gave it up when
they figured out what was wrong with it. You haven't figured it out
yet. Perhaps this says something about the size of your obstinacy
compared with your intelligence.
> The points in the image above
> designated as Inflation and the Afterglow Light Pattern. And since
> everywhere, or almost everywhere, we look we are looking back towards
> the emission point, that is why it appears "there is a faint
> background glow, almost exactly the same in all directions".
>
> The Big Bang is incorrect. It was not a single occurrence. The Big
> Bang is an ongoing process. Nature is not "steady state cosmology".
"Steady state cosmology" MEANS what you just said.
PD
> BURT a écrit :
>
>
>
> >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>> No.
> >>> The following is an image of a jet stream:
> >>>http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
> >> Do you really think that this idiocy would become true if you write it
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> > Go away Your Bowel Movement.
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> > Mitch Raemsch
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> Fuck off Mitch: you cannot forbid sane people to make fun of cranks
> like you and mpc here; this very group has been created for this
> purpose.
Interestingly, just a while ago, MPC asked Mitch to go away, and Mitch
rightfully told him to forget that idea. Now Mitch is telling you to
go away.
mpc755
Incorrect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steady_State_theory
"Within the steady state theory this background radiation is the
result of light from ancient stars which has been scattered by
galactic dust."
Steady State Theory is nothing like what nature is.
The background radiation is not light from ancient stars with has been
scattered by galactic dust.
Nature is the Big Bang as a continuous process.
Where ever, or almost where ever, we point our telescopes the paths
lead back to the point of emission. That is why it appears as though
the 'background' radiation is the same all around us. But if you look
at this image, the 'background' radiation is not all around us. It is
the Afterglow Light Pattern which exists, and continues to exist near
the emission point of the jet stream:
http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
> > Nature is not a single Big Bang event. Nature is an ongoing jet stream
BURT
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The expansion is energyless. As is gravity and magnetism in the
aether.
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
> Here is an image of the universe (or the local universe):
>
> http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
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> The red lines represent the 'expanding' universe.
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics
'NASA Achieves Breakthrough In Black Hole Simulation'
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/universe/gwave.html
"This visualization shows what Einstein envisioned. Researchers
crunched Einstein's theory of general relativity on the Columbia
supercomputer at the NASA Ames Research Center to create a three-
dimensional simulation of merging black holes. This was the largest
astrophysical calculation ever performed on a NASA supercomputer. The
simulation provides the foundation to explore the universe in an
entirely new way, through the detection of gravitational waves."
..., through the detection of aether waves.
A visual representation of gravity (i.e. aether) waves:
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/mpg/146898main_viz_shiftingall_21.320x240.mpg
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/images/content/146977main_gwave_lg4.jpg
jdawe
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> http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/images/content/146977main_gwave_l...
I've never heard of the phrase "jet stream".
So I entered "jet stream definition" into google which brought me:
"Jet streams circle [orbit] the Earth in meandering paths"
I next applied the opposing way of the universe:
Orbital ( In Motion )
or
Centre ( At Rest )
Therefore, the universe cannot be just an 'orbiting' jet stream as you
have forgotten about the opposing 'centre'.
You cannot have an orbital without a centre.
or
You cannot have a centre without an orbital.
-Josh.
BURT
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The universe is the surface of the hypersphere. There is only one
higher dimension and aether exists.
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
When aether and matter fall past the event horizon of a black hole,
the matter decompresses into its base form of aether, and aether is
emitted into the black hole jet streams:
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/planetarium/graphics/st_images/BlackHole.jpg
It is not until the aether slows down that the pressure in the jet
stream allows matter to begin to form. In the following image, stars
begin to form 400 million years after the aether is emitted into the
jet stream:
http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
When we look through telescopes most, if not all, paths lead back to
the emission point and that is why the Afterglow Light Pattern is
mistaken as being 'background' radiation.
Eventually the expansion of the 'universe' spreads out and then 'heads
over a water fall'. You can see the water fall effect in the first
image in this post.
When the aether and matter 'go over the water fall', it eventually
makes its way back to the black hole accretion disk and will
eventually 'fall over' the black hole event horizon and the process
repeats itself.
The Big Bang was not a single event, but is a continuous process.
BURT
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What we are seeing are not black holes. This is the problem.
Mitch Raemsch
jdawe
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I would not want to attack someone who is trying to 'think for
themselves'.
However, naturally with greater freedom of expression\thought comes
greater responsibility.
Therefore, if you are going to continue to post your own theories in
an authoritative manner then I would request that you place your full
name with your posts so that you can take full responsibility for what
you are saying rather than just posting whatever under an alias then
disappearing when the dust settles.
-Josh.
mpc755
If you have been following this forum, you will notice I do not
disappear.
The following is a picture of an ongoing process, not a single event:
http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
Here is another image of an ongoing process, not a single event:
BURT
> On Nov 18, 9:24 pm, jdawe <mrjd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 19, 12:14 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 18, 5:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Here is an image of the universe (or the local universe):
>
> > > >http://huntersofthecloud.com/images/HuntersofTheCloudmagfield.gif
>
> > > > The red lines represent the 'expanding' universe.
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> > > > The gray cloud represents the Rindler Horizon:
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> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindler_coordinates#Geodesics
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> > > Mitch Raemsch
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> > In a galaxy there is more:
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> > Orbiting ( In Motion )
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> > than
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> > Centre ( At Rest )
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> > Centre ( At Rest )
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> > Orbiting ( In Motion )
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> > which is our solar system\atoms etc.
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> > -Josh.
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How can the end of space and time move around mpc?
Mitch Reamsch
mpc755
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/planetarium/graphics/st_images/BlackHole.jpg
The point in above the black hole (i.e. circle) in the above image is
the emission point into the jet stream.
This is where time starts. It might be more accurate to say this is
where time appears to start. After being emitted into the black hole
jet stream the aether slows down, become compressed into matter and
stars form. About 14 billion years after being emitted into the jet
stream, the aether, which became matter, becomes us:
http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
When we look through our telescopes, the paths lead back to the
emission point. This is time zero. This is where the aether, which
became matter, which became us entered into the jet stream. As far as
we are concerned, in terms of time, this is time zero.
The stuff which is all around us will continue to expand in three
dimensional space past the Dark Energy Accelerated Expansion point in
the second image above and wind up 'going over the waterfall' as in
the first image in this post and 'we' eventually wind up back in the
accretion disk. How long we last before falling over the event horizon
of the black hole and the force causing the matter which is 'us' from
being shredded into aether and being re-emitted into the jet stream is
anyone's guess.
In the second image above, put a black hole at 'Quantum Fluctuations'.
BURT
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I want to know how the end of space and time can move around? That is
what a black hole is.
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
No. A black hole is an aether void. Aether and matter fall over the
event horizon of a black hole and aether is emitted into the jet
stream. The emission point is what physics considers to be the Big
Bang. What is incorrect about the Big Bang is the 'stuff' which is the
universe, or the local universe', exists as aether and matter before
being emitted into the jet stream.
BURT
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No. That is not black hole. A black hole is a point of matter where
space and time end.
mpc755
Yes. And a black hole jet stream is where aether is emitted and time
begins.
BURT
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Time begins when aether rate flows over the atom and light.
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
Incorrect. Time begins at the emission point of the jet stream which
is incorrectly considered to be the 'big bang'. The 'big bang' is the
'big ongoing'.