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socratus
Sep 1, 2012, 7:26:54 AM9/1/12
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' . . big picture view of the universe, built of space-time, '
Have Three Little Photons Broken Theoretical Physics?
http://www.space.com/17399-gamma-ray-photons-quantum-spacetime.html
==.
My comment.
' A world without masses, without electrons, without an
electromagnetic field is an empty world. Such an empty
world is flat. But if masses appear, if charged particles
appear, if an electromagnetic field appears then our world
becomes curved. Its geometry is Riemannian, that is,
non- Euclidian. '
/ Book ' Albert Einstein ' The page 116 . by Leopold Infeld. /
===.
1.
Universe as a whole without masses, without electrons,
without an electromagnetic field is an empty world.
Such an empty world is flat ( infinite flat ).
2.
But if masses appear, if charged particles appear,
if an electromagnetic field appears ( in local places )
then our world becomes curved ( in local places stars
and planets were created ).
From outside point of view it is local Riemannian geometry,
non- Euclidian geometry .
==..
Have Three Little Photons Broken Theoretical Physics?
http://www.space.com/17399-gamma-ray-photons-quantum-spacetime.html
==.
My comment.
' A world without masses, without electrons, without an
electromagnetic field is an empty world. Such an empty
world is flat. But if masses appear, if charged particles
appear, if an electromagnetic field appears then our world
becomes curved. Its geometry is Riemannian, that is,
non- Euclidian. '
/ Book ' Albert Einstein ' The page 116 . by Leopold Infeld. /
===.
1.
Universe as a whole without masses, without electrons,
without an electromagnetic field is an empty world.
Such an empty world is flat ( infinite flat ).
2.
But if masses appear, if charged particles appear,
if an electromagnetic field appears ( in local places )
then our world becomes curved ( in local places stars
and planets were created ).
From outside point of view it is local Riemannian geometry,
non- Euclidian geometry .
==..
Brad Guth
Sep 1, 2012, 7:00:49 PM9/1/12
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through space and time?
Because if photons do not actually move through space and time, they
can be considered as merely 2D quantum strings that represent a 2D
flat wave of zero volume and thus offer zero mass.
socratus
Sep 2, 2012, 9:53:34 AM9/2/12
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Have Three Little Photons Broken Theoretical Physics?
http://www.space.com/17399-gamma-ray-photons-quantum-spacetime.html
==.
Even one single photon can change the opinion of modern theoretical
http://www.space.com/17399-gamma-ray-photons-quantum-spacetime.html
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physics.
=.
‘ All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me
no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?'
Nowadays every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks he knows it,
but he is mistaken. ‘
/ Einstein /
In light of ' the quantum of light ', we will always know the truth.
Socratus
Brad Guth
Sep 2, 2012, 10:58:38 AM9/2/12
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On Sep 2, 6:53 am, socratus <socra...@bezeqint.net> wrote:
> Have Three Little Photons Broken Theoretical Physics?http://www.space.com/17399-gamma-ray-photons-quantum-spacetime.html
doesn't have an honest clue if photons actually move or not.
> Have Three Little Photons Broken Theoretical Physics?http://www.space.com/17399-gamma-ray-photons-quantum-spacetime.html
> ==.
>
> Even one single photon can change the opinion of modern theoretical
> physics.
> =.
> ‘ All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me
> no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?'
> Nowadays every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks he knows it,
> but he is mistaken. ‘
> / Einstein /
> In light of ' the quantum of light ', we will always know the truth.
> Socratus
In other words, the best physics and interpretations of science
>
> Even one single photon can change the opinion of modern theoretical
> physics.
> =.
> ‘ All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me
> no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?'
> Nowadays every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks he knows it,
> but he is mistaken. ‘
> / Einstein /
> In light of ' the quantum of light ', we will always know the truth.
> Socratus
doesn't have an honest clue if photons actually move or not.
Uwe Hayek
Sep 2, 2012, 2:18:59 PM9/2/12
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On 9/1/2012 1:26 PM, socratus wrote:
> ' . . big picture view of the universe, built of space-time,'
> Have Three Little Photons Broken Theoretical Physics?
>
> http://www.space.com/17399-gamma-ray-photons-quantum-spacetime.html
> ==.
>
> My comment.
>
> ' A world without masses, without electrons, without an
> electromagnetic field is an empty world. Such an empty
> world is flat. But if masses appear, if charged particles
> appear, if an electromagnetic field appears then our world
> becomes curved. Its geometry is Riemannian, that is,
> non- Euclidian. '
>
> / Book ' Albert Einstein ' The page 116 . by Leopold Infeld. /
> ===.
I could agree if every object followed the same path.
> ' . . big picture view of the universe, built of space-time,'
> Have Three Little Photons Broken Theoretical Physics?
>
> http://www.space.com/17399-gamma-ray-photons-quantum-spacetime.html
> ==.
>
> My comment.
>
> ' A world without masses, without electrons, without an
> electromagnetic field is an empty world. Such an empty
> world is flat. But if masses appear, if charged particles
> appear, if an electromagnetic field appears then our world
> becomes curved. Its geometry is Riemannian, that is,
> non- Euclidian. '
>
> / Book ' Albert Einstein ' The page 116 . by Leopold Infeld. /
> ===.
But objects traveling at different speeds follow different paths, so I
stick to the field principle, just like in the electric and magnetic
field governs the way charged particles travel.
Uwe Hayek.
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