TOM ROBERTS WILL EXPLAIN MUON LIFETIME AT REST
Pentcho Valev
"I've used cosmic ray muons as an example in support of special
relativity... but every time I mention it, I fear the logical question
"Oh but how was the muon lifetime measured at rest"... it hasn't come
up yet... but surely one day it will. So how was the muon lifetime
measured at rest? Or more accurately who/when/where first measured the
muon lifetime at rest. Although I do not doubt that SR is valid (for
now), I want to know if people just measured muon decay rates at
different velocities and extrapolated (using SR) the lifetime at
rest... since that would kind of make for a circular argument when it
comes to SR validity."
Tom Roberts, the Albert Einstein of our generation (Stephen Hawking is
no longer the Albert Einstein of our generation) immediately answered:
" http://pdg.lbl.gov/ They surely have numerous references giving
measurements of muon lifetimes (and, of course, other particles and
other properties). While I don't have references, I know there are a
number of muon beamlines in the world in which muons are routinely
brought to rest, and a measurement of their lifetime would naturally
be part of the analysis of other things of interest (e.g. muon
catalyzed fusion, which requires stopped muons). Tom Roberts
tjro...@lucent.com "
Obviously the Albert Einstein of our generation does not want to go
into much detail because he does not have references so here is a
typical measurement of the muon lifetime at rest:
http://web.mit.edu/c_hill/www/muons_paper.pdf "In this experiment, we
measure two of the basic properties of the muon, namely, its mean
lifetime and mass in its rest frame. We measure the decay curve of
cosmic-ray muons that have come to rest in a plastic scintillator by
looking for electrons produced in their decay."
Now Roberts you do have references so there is only one thing you
should do (in your capacity of Albert Einstein of our generation). You
should PROVE that reducing the speed of the muon to zero in the
plastic scintillator does not make muon's life extremely difficult,
with a premature death as a consequence. Your PROOF would be important
wouldn't it Roberts.
Don't forget two more explanations you are to give:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_frm/thread/f01724e78e78dde0/#
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_frm/thread/77004a5c55db257e/#
Pentcho Valev
N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)
news:1175841908.8...@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Some time ago Stou Sandalski asked in
> sci.physics.relativity:
... and anly succeeds in making accusations about things he
either does not understand, or intentionally misunderstands.
John Jones
> Some time ago Stou Sandalski asked in sci.physics.relativity:
>
> "I've used cosmic ray muons as an example in support of special
> relativity... but every time I mention it, I fear the logical question
> "Oh but how was the muon lifetime measured at rest"... it hasn't come
> up yet... but surely one day it will. So how was the muon lifetime
> measured at rest? Or more accurately who/when/where first measured the
> muon lifetime at rest. Although I do not doubt that SR is valid (for
> now), I want to know if people just measured muon decay rates at
> different velocities and extrapolated (using SR) the lifetime at
> rest... since that would kind of make for a circular argument when it
> comes to SR validity."
>
> Tom Roberts, the Albert Einstein of our generation (Stephen Hawking is
> no longer the Albert Einstein of our generation) immediately answered:
>
> measurements of muon lifetimes (and, of course, other particles and
> other properties). While I don't have references, I know there are a
> number of muon beamlines in the world in which muons are routinely
> brought to rest, and a measurement of their lifetime would naturally
> be part of the analysis of other things of interest (e.g. muon
> catalyzed fusion, which requires stopped muons). Tom Roberts
>
> Obviously the Albert Einstein of our generation does not want to go
> into much detail because he does not have references so here is a
> typical measurement of the muon lifetime at rest:
>
> http://web.mit.edu/c_hill/www/muons_paper.pdf"In this experiment, we
> measure two of the basic properties of the muon, namely, its mean
> lifetime and mass in its rest frame. We measure the decay curve of
> cosmic-ray muons that have come to rest in a plastic scintillator by
> looking for electrons produced in their decay."
>
> Now Roberts you do have references so there is only one thing you
> should do (in your capacity of Albert Einstein of our generation). You
> should PROVE that reducing the speed of the muon to zero in the
> plastic scintillator does not make muon's life extremely difficult,
> with a premature death as a consequence. Your PROOF would be important
> wouldn't it Roberts.
>
> Don't forget two more explanations you are to give:
>
>
> Pentcho Valev
John Jones
>
> "I've used cosmic ray muons as an example in support of special
> relativity... but every time I mention it, I fear the logical question
> "Oh but how was the muon lifetime measured at rest"... it hasn't come
> up yet... but surely one day it will. So how was the muon lifetime
> measured at rest? Or more accurately who/when/where first measured the
> muon lifetime at rest. Although I do not doubt that SR is valid (for
> now), I want to know if people just measured muon decay rates at
> different velocities and extrapolated (using SR) the lifetime at
> rest... since that would kind of make for a circular argument when it
> comes to SR validity."
>
> Tom Roberts, the Albert Einstein of our generation (Stephen Hawking is
> no longer the Albert Einstein of our generation) immediately answered:
>
> measurements of muon lifetimes (and, of course, other particles and
> other properties). While I don't have references, I know there are a
> number of muon beamlines in the world in which muons are routinely
> brought to rest, and a measurement of their lifetime would naturally
> be part of the analysis of other things of interest (e.g. muon
> catalyzed fusion, which requires stopped muons). Tom Roberts
>
> Obviously the Albert Einstein of our generation does not want to go
> into much detail because he does not have references so here is a
> typical measurement of the muon lifetime at rest:
>
> http://web.mit.edu/c_hill/www/muons_paper.pdf"In this experiment, we
> measure two of the basic properties of the muon, namely, its mean
> lifetime and mass in its rest frame. We measure the decay curve of
> cosmic-ray muons that have come to rest in a plastic scintillator by
> looking for electrons produced in their decay."
>
> Now Roberts you do have references so there is only one thing you
> should do (in your capacity of Albert Einstein of our generation). You
> should PROVE that reducing the speed of the muon to zero in the
> plastic scintillator does not make muon's life extremely difficult,
> with a premature death as a consequence. Your PROOF would be important
> wouldn't it Roberts.
>
> Don't forget two more explanations you are to give:
>
>
> Pentcho Valev
Pentho Valley you TWAT STOP CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO
SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC
CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO
SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC
CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO
SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC
CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO
SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC
CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO
SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC
CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO
SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI
oeier5...@dr.com
> On Apr 6, 7:45?am, "Pentcho Valev" <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Some time ago Stou Sandalski asked in sci.physics.relativity:
>
> > "I've used cosmic ray muons as an example in support of special
> > relativity... but every time I mention it, I fear the logical question
> > "Oh but how was the muon lifetime measured at rest"... it hasn't come
> > up yet... but surely one day it will. So how was the muon lifetime
> > measured at rest? Or more accurately who/when/where first measured the
> > muon lifetime at rest. Although I do not doubt that SR is valid (for
> > now), I want to know if people just measured muon decay rates at
> > different velocities and extrapolated (using SR) the lifetime at
> > rest... since that would kind of make for a circular argument when it
> > comes to SR validity."
>
> > Tom Roberts, the Albert Einstein of our generation (Stephen Hawking is
> > no longer the Albert Einstein of our generation) immediately answered:
>
> > measurements of muon lifetimes (and, of course, other particles and
> > other properties). While I don't have references, I know there are a
> > number of muon beamlines in the world in which muons are routinely
> > brought to rest, and a measurement of their lifetime would naturally
> > be part of the analysis of other things of interest (e.g. muon
> > catalyzed fusion, which requires stopped muons). Tom Roberts
> > tjrobe...@lucent.com "
>
> > Obviously the Albert Einstein of our generation does not want to go
> > into much detail because he does not have references so here is a
> > typical measurement of the muon lifetime at rest:
>
> >http://web.mit.edu/c_hill/www/muons_paper.pdf"In this experiment, we
> > measure two of the basic properties of the muon, namely, its mean
> > lifetime and mass in its rest frame. We measure the decay curve of
> > cosmic-ray muons that have come to rest in a plastic scintillator by
> > looking for electrons produced in their decay."
>
> > Now Roberts you do have references so there is only one thing you
> > should do (in your capacity of Albert Einstein of our generation). You
> > should PROVE that reducing the speed of the muon to zero in the
> > plastic scintillator does not make muon's life extremely difficult,
> > with a premature death as a consequence. Your PROOF would be important
> > wouldn't it Roberts.
>
> > Don't forget two more explanations you are to give:
>
>
> > Pentcho Valev
>
> Pentho Valley you TWAT STOP CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO
> SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC
> CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO
> SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC
> CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO
> SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC
> CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO
> SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC
> CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO
> SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC
> CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO
> SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI
stop doin it y stooped mothifaka