'God particle' out of hiding places: CERN chief
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August 25th, 2011 in Physics / General Physics
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The director general of the European Organisation for Nuclear Research
(CERN), Rolf-Dieter Heuer, addresses a news conference at the Tata
Institute of Fundamental Research (TIFR) in Mumbai on August 25. Heuer
said the the elusive Higgs Boson, known as the "God particle", was --
if it exists -- running out of places to hide.
The elusive Higgs Boson, known as the "God particle", is -- if it
exists -- running out of places to hide, the head of the mammoth
experiment designed to find it said on Thursday.
"The window for the famous Higgs Boson... is getting smaller and
smaller," Professor Rolf Heuer, director-general of the European
Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN), told a news conference in
Mumbai, where the agency presented its latest data in the quest.
The Higgs Boson is a theoretical sub-atomic particle that is believed
to confer mass. It is named after a British scientist who suggested
its existence in the 1960s.
It has been dubbed the "God particle" because it is thought to be
everywhere, but it has also proved agonisingly hard to find.
Scientists at CERN are trying to determine its existence in the
world's largest particle collider, located in a tunnel deep below the
Franco-Swiss border, and believe they can come up with an answer by
the end of 2012.
Heuer said the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) was working well but
finding evidence of the enigmatic particle was difficult because they
were looking at the lowest levels of mass, the last place where it may
-- or may not -- lurk.
He likened the search to trying to find a snowy field during a
blizzard, while Pier Oddone, director of the US Department of Energy's
Fermilab, said it was like looking for stars in daylight.
"It's the hardest region because of the background... It's more
difficult to see what's going on," Oddone said.
On Monday, CERN research director Sergio Bertolucci said experiments
had excluded with 95 percent certainty the existence of the Higgs
boson at higher levels of mass.
The 27-kilometre (16.9-mile) Large Hadron Collider is designed to
accelerate protons to nearly the speed of light and then smash them
together where detectors in house-sized laboratories record the
seething, sub-atomic debris.
The collisions briefly create temperatures 100,000 times hotter than
the Sun, fleetingly replicating conditions split-seconds after the
"Big Bang" that created the known universe 13.7 billion years ago.
The Higgs Boson is the missing cornerstone of the well-tested Standard
Model of particle physics, a theory which explains how known sub-
atomic particles in the universe interact.
Professor Rohini Godbole, particle theorist at the Centre for High
Energy Physics at the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore, said
the Standard Model had been put together like a house of cards over
the last 70 years.
"We're trying to put together the last two cards," she added. "If the
Higgs Boson is found, the two cards meet. If it's not... the house of
cards is going to fall down."
Godbole said she was confident of a discovery.
"All that so far has been tested, whatever we have been predicting,
has been found to be true," she said.
(c) 2011 AFP
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Robert Karl Stonjek
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God particle may not exist.
Thursday, 6 December, 2001, 13:13 GMT
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1695390.stm
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- The mad CERN’s way.
14 Sep 2008 16:14 GMT
by Israel Sadovnik Socratus
http://www.spacekb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/astronomy/13338/The-mad-CERN-s-project
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Y.Porat
> Posted by
> Robert Karl Stonjek
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> God particle may not exist.
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> - The mad CERN’s way.
> 14 Sep 2008 16:14 GMT
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(:-)
the are ashamed to admit that they were idiots
physicists RIGHT FROM THE START !!
i brought many reasons why the Higgs
WAS DEAD BY ARRIVAL !!
(including reasoning's based on my model
of nuclear structure and the way particles are built
from the smaller to the bigger
and not vice verse )
ATB
Y.Porat
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sadovnik socratus
not only High Energy but a Pure Vacuum too.
Without the Pure Vacuum the 27-kilometers (16.9-mile)
Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is an useless toy.
I ask: Where in the Universe we can find
the Pure Vacuum and High Energy ?
My answer: The Universe as whole is a Pure Energy Vacuum.
Why?
Because the detected material mass of the matter in the Universe
( the cosmological constant / the critical density of Uuniverse)
is very small (the average density of all substance in the
Universe is approximately p=10^-30 g/sm^3 ) .
Because the Universe is filled with dark matter and dark energy :
‘ 90% or more of the matter in the Universe is unseen / dark.’
=.
Therefore I think that maybe we can find ‘a new paradigm’ in
the Cosmic Vacuum: the empty space between stars ( Galaxies )
And this Vacuum is not an empty space
The Vacuum is some kind of Cosmic background Energy.
The Vacuum is an Infinite Energy-time continuum.
The Vacuum is Dirac’s sea.
And according to Dirac and other physicists the
Vacuum Energy can generate particles.
The 'God particles' , the ‘virtual particles’ live there.
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BTW .
Vacuum -- the very name suggests emptiness and nothingness –
is actually a realm rife with potentiality, courtesy of the laws
of quantum electrodynamics (QED). According to QED,
additional, albeit virtual, particles can be created in the vacuum,
allowing light-light interactions.
http://www.aip.org/pnu/2006/768.html
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Dark energy may be vacuum
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-01/uoc-dem011607.php
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When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum,
that endless infinite void.
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/aug/18-nothingness-of-space-theory-of-everything
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sadovnik socratus
The alternative for LHC can be the Cosmic
Infinite Pure High Energy Vacuum: T= 0K, E= ∞
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Marvin The Martian
Nah. The non-existence of the/a Higgs Boson does not imply that stupid is
valid.
I find the whole thing funny.
mpc755
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> Dark energy may be vacuumhttp://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-01/uoc-dem011607.php
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> When the next revolution rocks physics,
> chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum,
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> . . . .etc.
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'Ether and the Theory of Relativity - Albert Einstein'
http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html
"Since according to our present conceptions the elementary particles
of matter are also, in their essence, nothing else than condensations
of the electromagnetic field"
The electromagnetic field is a state of aether.
Matter is condensations of aether.
DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' A.
EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."
The mass of the body does diminish; however, the matter which no
longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists,
as aether.
Matter evaporates into aether.
As matter converts to aether it expands in three dimensional space.
The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring aether and
matter is energy.
Mass is conserved. Energy is conserved.
A change in state of that which has mass is energy.
The Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is in, a jet.
'Mysterious Cosmic 'Dark Flow' Tracked Deeper into Universe'
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2010/10-023.html
'The clusters appear to be moving along a line extending from our
solar system toward Centaurus/Hydra, but the direction of this motion
is less certain. Evidence indicates that the clusters are headed
outward along this path, away from Earth, but the team cannot yet rule
out the opposite flow. "We detect motion along this axis, but right
now our data cannot state as strongly as we'd like whether the
clusters are coming or going," Kashlinsky said.'
The clusters are headed along this path because the Universe is, or
the local Universe we exist in is, a jet. Analogous to the polar jet
of a black hole.
The following is an image analogous of the Universal jet:
http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
The reason for the 'expansion' of the universe is the continual
emission of aether into the Universal jet. Three dimensional space
associated with the Universe itself is not expanding. What we see in
our telescopes is the matter associated with the Universe moving
outward and away from the Universal jet emission point. In the image
above, '1st Stars' is where aether condenses into matter.
The following is an image analogous of the Universe, or the local
Universe, we exist in:
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/planetarium/graphics/st_images/BlackHole.jpg
Dark energy is the change in state of the aether emitted into and
propagating through the Universal jet.
It's not the Big Bang. It's the Big Ongoing.
Y.Porat
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> Dark energy may be vacuumhttp://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-01/uoc-dem011607.php
> #
> When the next revolution rocks physics,
> chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum,
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> . . . .etc.
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a salad of words !!
next
Y.Porat
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sadovnik socratus
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Two ways to God Particle.
1
One way to find God Particle is CERN.
The result of the CERN experiment can be received
only in the reference frame of vacuum.
The vacuum is the most important part of CERN.
2
Another way to find God Particle takes its beginning
from QED. QED says: all electron parameters in
interaction with vacuum become infinite. But this is
forbidden by " The Law of Conservation and
Transformation of Energy". Question:
How the electron will regenerate from the vacuum?
3
So, CERN and QED cannot exist without vacuum.
Questions: What is vacuum: T=0K ?
Which kind of particles can exist in T=0K condition?
4
I say, that Third Law of Thermodynamics gives the answer:
the particles in T=0K condition don’t have volume and
therefore they must be flat circle/ disc particles: c/d=pi=3,14 . . .
And if vacuum is some kind of energy space – so the particles
also must be some kind of energy particles with potential
energy: E=Mc^2.
And if vacuum is some kind of thermodynamics space – so
the particles must have potential gravity mass: R/N=k.
And when I posted my opinion I received emails from some
persons with Ph.D in their pockets: idiot, moron, cretin . . .
. . . drink your cup of hemlock.
5
Where is my mistake?
6
On my opinion, to search God Particle using CERN
is mad project. It is better ( and maybe it is cheaper too)
to understand: What is electron?
How the electron regenerates from the vacuum?
And if we understand what electron is, we will also
understand that CERN is the big pyramid in the XXIc.
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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Y.Porat
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nothing is generated from Vacuum
vacuum is nothing by definition
you are wasting our time
Y.P
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sadovnik socratus
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The question of what gravity is made of - ....
Is equal to the questions:
What gives particles mass?
Where does the mass of the particle come from?
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The physicists say that searching for the Higgs Boson –
- God particle - is needed vacuum
So, maybe, the vacuum gives mass to particles.
The cosmologist Rocky Kolb from University of Chicago wrote:
‘ Somehow, the energy is extracted from the vacuum and turned
into particles...Don't try it in your basement, but you can do it.’
So!
We try to understand ‘gravity’, ‘ Higgs Boson’, ‘black holes ‘,
‘dark mass / energy’ without know what vacuum is.
Do we have logic ?
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micro...@hotmail.com
> Posted by
> Robert Karl Stonjek
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> God particle may not exist.
> #
> - The mad CERN’s way.
> 14 Sep 2008 16:14 GMT
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God isn't a particle.