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Y.Porat

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Nov 2, 2009, 9:05:14 PM11/2/09
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in one of the latest discussions
i asked PD
how can you evaluate my model- if you dont have my book ??
His answer :
**i already have your book * !!

!!!!!!!!!!!! ?????????
i asked
how can you have my book
WHILE I NEVER GAVE IT TO YOU ???

his answer (sort of )
you are a senile old man who does not remember what he is
doing!!......

(between me and the other readers-
we are going now to see if i am an old man
who does not remember waht he is doing ...)

so i saied to him
if so
please send me a copy of the first cover page
on which i always ** write a personal dedication
to the person i sed it ..
no answer !!

so i keep asking
No answer...
after a few days
i get his brilliant idea:
' i lost your book
AND I DONT REMEMBER WERE IS IT ..."
than i
tell him:
if so
please show me the correspondence between us
to decide to which address i should post
to you the book
(it was always by airmail)
untill now he just ignore my questions
and requests !!

solet the other readers make thier conclutions
about that story
and here is my understanding about what happened

PD really got my book
**but not from me !!
he got a copy from someone lese
while PD refuses to revaeal the name of the crook
that sent him a copy of it
you see
the loyalty of PD to the crook that sent him the book
is bigger than his loyalty to the** writer **the book !!!
BTW it is not the first time that a similar story happened
in another case
a little crook from the Heidelberg University
called Bjorn Feuerbacher
sent a copy of my book
(AGAIN WITHOUT MY PERMITTION
AND WITHOUT NOTIFYING ME) -----

---- to another crook called Michel Moroney
that as well didnt bother to inform me about it

now just a little detail to the readers
THAT BOOK IS COPYRIGHTED
and itis nicely written on the opening of it

and i suppose that the rules of copyright
are well known to every one !!

i dont mind people distributing my book!!
i always send it free
i do mind doing it without my permition
and without telling me about it!!

is that an exaggerated request as a
minimal reward for my hard long work ???!!

Y.Porat
--------------------------


Aleph

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Nov 2, 2009, 9:14:11 PM11/2/09
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On 3/11/2009 02:05, in
sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.chem,
Y.Porat <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote:

> in one of the latest discussions
> i asked PD
> how can you evaluate my model- if you dont have my book ??

Its strange that you think the only way people can have an opinion on
your madness is if *you* gave them a copy of your book.

You are a strange person.

> <snip>


>
> (between me and the other readers-
> we are going now to see if i am an old man
> who does not remember waht he is doing ...)

Senile or not, you are a crackpot.

> <snip whining>


>
> and here is my understanding about what happened

You rarely show understanding of anything.

> PD really got my book
> **but not from me !!
> he got a copy from someone lese

Do you force anyone you send a copy of the book to agree to your
draconian controls on how it can be passed on?

What NDA do you make them sign up to?

> while PD refuses to revaeal the name of the crook
> that sent him a copy of it

Why is it a crook thing to do? Have you ever heard of second hand book
shops?

> you see
> the loyalty of PD to the crook that sent him the book
> is bigger than his loyalty to the** writer **the book !!!

Do you blame him? You are a babbling usenet buffoon. Why would anyone be
loyal to you?

> BTW it is not the first time that a similar story happened
> in another case
> a little crook from the Heidelberg University
> called Bjorn Feuerbacher
> sent a copy of my book
> (AGAIN WITHOUT MY PERMITTION
> AND WITHOUT NOTIFYING ME) -----

Why should they? Did they buy the book? Do you lend it to them and
demand they look after it for you, free of charge?

> ---- to another crook called Michel Moroney
> that as well didnt bother to inform me about it
>
> now just a little detail to the readers
> THAT BOOK IS COPYRIGHTED
> and itis nicely written on the opening of it

You dont understand what that means.

> and i suppose that the rules of copyright
> are well known to every one !!

You dont understand them.

> i dont mind people distributing my book!!
> i always send it free

So what?

> i do mind doing it without my permition
> and without telling me about it!!

So what? You can mind it all you like. How are you going to police it?
How are you going to enforce it? How does it fall within fair use terms?

> is that an exaggerated request as a
> minimal reward for my hard long work ???!!

Sadly, yes. If you dont like it, sell your book and get your reward that
way.

Once you send the book to someone else, you dont have any real control
over what happens to it physically. If someone plagiarises it, then you
can complain. If someone tries to pass it off as their own, and you find
out about, you can complain.

But once you have given it to someone, you will find it hard to stop
them giving, or loaning, it to someone else.

When you buy a car, do you have to tell Ford if you let your kid drive
it?

--
Aleph

This message was posted to usenet so please reply that way. Emails to
this account are very likely to be ignored.

eric gisse

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Y.Porat wrote:

[...]

I have a copy of your book too. I used it to start fires.

Dirk Van de moortel

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Y.Porat

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On Nov 3, 12:19 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"

-------------------
i am waiting until the list of the
monkey trap
will be completed .... (:-)
so
jumping monkeys of the world join up
and unite
and enter yourself into the list of the monkey trap -- until it is
filled (:-)

that does not include PD
he(his majesty himself) is invited to respond my causation with the
reduction of not
entering to that list
becsuse non of the above monkeys
as any say about the above issue

the above issue has nothing to do
whether i am right scientifically or not
it is an ethics test
a standard of decent behavior
or not !!
a test of **being a lier about facts**
or not !!
nothing to do with scientifically being right or wrong
for little crook hired gangsters it is not an issue -
decency is not in their vocabulary at all!!
Y.P
--------------------------

Dirk Van de moortel

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Nov 3, 2009, 6:33:09 AM11/3/09
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Y.Porat wrote:
> On Nov 3, 12:19 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"
> <dirkvandemoor...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Y.Porat wrote:

[plink]

You might consider seeing a doctor:
http://www.who-rabies-bulletin.org/About_Rabies/What_is_rabies.aspx

Dirk Vdm


Y.Porat

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On Nov 3, 1:33 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"

-----------------
Hi
nasty pigg Van Der Schmate!!
Y.P
----------------------

Y.Porat

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Nov 3, 2009, 2:28:28 PM11/3/09
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On Nov 3, 6:56 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
wrote:
> It's great for starting fires, isn't it.

------------------
common nasty pigg imbecile
do you understand what is in that book?

a pigg like you never informwed me about tthe fact that another
shamless
moron parrot pigg from Hedelberg
sent you my book witrhout my permission

with his idiotic remarks on it
you never discused it withme
and an matheamtics imbecile parrot like
you has not the slightest chance to understand it

if it so bad
why is it that this book
is distributed*** under the ground*
again and again
to so many people ??!!!
2
where is your Higgs Boson Mr imbecile crook shameless parrot
dont you think that your fucken books
are better material for burning ??!!
3
is that response of your nothing but
a nasty attempt to cover your
Piggish moronic behavior against me ??!!
while you are not only Moroney--
you are a nasty crook moron
4
suppose even that htis book is worth nothing

what is your piggish post to do with
the fact that draper is a lier?
is it a nasty attempt to divert the issue
that you like him are thieves and crooks ??!!
Y.P
------------------------


Inertial

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Nov 3, 2009, 7:24:14 PM11/3/09
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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 3, 6:56 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
> wrote:
>> eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...@gmail.com> writes:
>> >Y.Porat wrote:
>> >[...]
>> >I have a copy of your book too. I used it to start fires.
>>
>> It's great for starting fires, isn't it.
>
> ------------------
> common nasty pigg imbecile
> do you understand what is in that book?
>
> a pigg like you never informwed me about tthe fact that another
> shamless
> moron parrot pigg from Hedelberg
> sent you my book witrhout my permission

If one looks in the usenet archives, you explicitly gave him permission to
send his annotated copy and you said you'd send a full new copy. Seem like
you're a liar (aothough we all know that already)

> with his idiotic remarks on it
> you never discused it withme
> and an matheamtics imbecile parrot like
> you has not the slightest chance to understand it
>
> if it so bad
> why is it that this book
> is distributed*** under the ground*
> again and again
> to so many people ??!!!

Is it? Probably for amusement. I'm sure it must be laughable, if your
posts here are anything to go by.

> 2
> where is your Higgs Boson Mr imbecile crook shameless parrot
> dont you think that your fucken books
> are better material for burning ??!!
> 3
> is that response of your nothing but
> a nasty attempt to cover your
> Piggish moronic behavior against me ??!!
> while you are not only Moroney--
> you are a nasty crook moron
> 4
> suppose even that htis book is worth nothing
>
> what is your piggish post to do with
> the fact that draper is a lier?

What lie did he tell?

> is it a nasty attempt to divert the issue
> that you like him are thieves and crooks ??!!

I so hope you are sued for defamation and slander.

> Y.P

You're a sad sad little man. And still not dead .. shame .. please hurry up
and die. We've got to plan a celebration party for when it happens.

eric gisse

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Y.Porat wrote:

> On Nov 3, 6:56 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
> wrote:
>> eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...@gmail.com> writes:
>> >Y.Porat wrote:
>> >[...]
>> >I have a copy of your book too. I used it to start fires.
>>
>> It's great for starting fires, isn't it.
>
> ------------------
> common nasty pigg imbecile
> do you understand what is in that book?

No, because you write gibberish.

[snip rest, unread]

Y.Porat

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now Moroney

what have you done with my book ??
why ddint you tell me that you got it
from the Psychopath Feurerbacher !!!

PEOPLE WHO ARE LIARS IN PERSONAL RELATIONS
WILL BE LIARS ABOUT SCIENCE !!!

Y.Porat
-------------------------

Y.Porat

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-----------------
where from you got that copy ??

Y.P
--------------------

Inertial

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I've looked into the history of this. You TOLD him to send his annotated
copy to Micheal and you'd send a new copy .. but you didn't send it and then
complained that Michael hadn't received a full copy .. and now you claim
that Michael got the book without your knowledge at all. You're clearly the
liar here. You have zero credibility.

Inertial

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 3, 6:54 am, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Y.Porat wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> I have a copy of your book too. I used it to start fires.
>
> -----------------
> where from you got that copy ??

Maybe he doesn't and was confusing your book with toilet paper.

Aleph

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On Tuesday 03 November 2009 13:15, in <9687ac4f-bea1-4514-9f27-
f441cc...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:

> <snip>


> -----------------
> Hi
> nasty pigg Van Der Schmate!!
> Y.P
> ----------------------

Your posts, basically, boil down to "whine, insult, whine, conspiracy
theory, godwins law, whine, whine, whine."

Get a life.

Y.Porat

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On Nov 4, 3:21 pm, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 November 2009 13:15, in <9687ac4f-bea1-4514-9f27-
> f441ccb31...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:
>
> > <snip>
> > -----------------
> > Hi
> > nasty pigg Van Der Schmate!!
> > Y.P
> > ----------------------
>
> Your posts, basically, boil down to "whine, insult, whine, conspiracy
> theory, godwins law, whine, whine, whine."
>
> Get a life.
>
> --
> Aleph
>
> This message was posted to usenet so please reply that way. Emails to
> this account are very likely to be ignored.

--------------
do you have anything else to renew
beside what you already said??
did you ever innovated anything in physics ??
2
i as the op poster started with
4 ng s
why do you cult 3 of them ??
while you actually say nothing??
is it because actually your poast
is not worth while even for one NG ??
(:-)
Mr Varney
what is your day job??
it seems that you just a bump parasite
hat could not get a decent day job!!
Y.P
-----------------------


Cwatters

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Nov 4, 2009, 10:04:45 AM11/4/09
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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> i dont mind people distributing my book!!
> i always send it free i do mind doing it without
> my permition and without telling me about it!!
>
> is that an exaggerated request as a
> minimal reward for my hard long work ???!!
>
> Y.Porat
> --------------------------
>

Once you give something away it's no longer yours. Sure you can stop people
coppying and selling a book but you can't stop them giving away a copy you
gave them.


Y.Porat

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On Nov 4, 5:04 pm, "Cwatters"
<colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
-------------
you missed mypoint!!
i said about that i have no objection
to distribute my book
th eonly humble request i ask
is to be fair to me as one who invested in it
many years of my life
so
it is to inform me about any one who gets it
or betetr to ask me before giving it
to someone
because excuse me
i would like to filter the people that gets it
(and i have some good reasons to do it...)
2
the point here was another one
i would hapyly give my book to someone like
PD
the thing that annoyed me very mauch
is that Pd lied that i gve him that copy
prsenting me as a senile old man
that insinuating by that
that it is not worthy to take me seriously
**in anything i do *
ie
my model is worthnothing
and that is a super crime against science !
a supercrime that a scientist can do
from the ethics point of view
because
Pd undestood nothing
*and could not undesrant anything ther
without my help !!
he has avery differnt education than me
he never innovated anything in physics
he has no real idea
howe pioneering science is done!!
because he never was there !!
and topos as if my model is worth nothing
is byond the limits of decency
in less gentle words
he is a crook
because he knowes well
that my model is unpfecedented
(provided he coud follow even a bit of it )
but
he is motivated by some
PERSONAL POLITICS AGENDA!)
whichis for him
ABOVE ALL !!
ie even above truth
and that cannot be done by someone who
pose himsemf as a PHYSICS TEACHER !!!

science is not only this or that knowledge
it is first of all
HONESTY!
someone who is not honest
there is no way that he will be honest
in science
you can cheat people but you cant cheat nature !!
ATB
Y.Porat
----------------------

eric gisse

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Y.Porat wrote:
[...]

> now Moroney
>
> what have you done with my book ??
> why ddint you tell me that you got it
> from the Psychopath Feurerbacher !!!

He got it from somewhere else. Don't you remember...?

Y.Porat

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Gisse
i am 71
but still alive and kicking!! (sad for you
and Inertial .while both of you wish me die .... (:-)
dont be mistaken about it !!

becauase it whant help you

He Moroney )got it from Bjoern Feuerbacher f
who was a student in Heidelberg !!!
i even remember that that idiot lier traitor
Feuebacher scrambled on my book
his idiotic parrots moron remarks
and set it like that (without my permission to Moroney
he told me that later
Y.P
-----------------

Michael Moroney

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> writes:

>now Moroney

>what have you done with my book ??

Well, the "rectangular pipes" are too harsh on sensitive body parts to use
it as toilet paper, but as I mentioned, it does burn real well. I use
firewood for some heat to save money and it's quite useful for starting
fires.

Ahmed Ouahi, Architect

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Kicking what whether
The time or the nature

One does not whatever
Moves out of the other

--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Best Regards!


"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> kirjoitti
viestiss�:c9122a90-e8e8-4bbf...@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

Aleph

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On Wednesday 04 November 2009 15:26, in <1c83c3b2-1269-4331-b8d9-
e854a7...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:

> -------------
> you missed mypoint!!

I dont think anyone did.

> i said about that i have no objection
> to distribute my book
> th eonly humble request i ask
> is to be fair to me as one who invested in it
> many years of my life
> so
> it is to inform me about any one who gets it
> or betetr to ask me before giving it
> to someone
> because excuse me
> i would like to filter the people that gets it
> (and i have some good reasons to do it...)

Well, you can ask but realistically you have no way to either enforce this,
or any real grounds to get uptight if it isnt followed.

You *think* this isnt an onerous request because you dont see any money
changing hands, but it is quite a strict licensing condition.

For example, if you gave the book to me, and I gave it to a charity shop
because after reading I realized you are an idiot, how could I be expected
to tell *you* who now owned it?

You can not control this. Trying to do so, without the backing of the RIAA
or whatever will lead to you becoming even more insane than you already are.

> <snip whining>

Blah, blah, blah. Stop whining.

Aleph

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On Wednesday 04 November 2009 14:42, in <52307853-c8e1-41ed-

a68a-8cd...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:

> <snip>
>

> --------------
> do you have anything else to renew

Nope, all my library books are in date. Thanks for the reminder though.

> beside what you already said??
> did you ever innovated anything in physics ??

ROTFLMAO.

Your attempts at deflection are pathetic. Your attempt to imply *you* have
ever innovated anything is equally pathetic *and* comical.

Bravo Sir.

> 2
> i as the op poster started with
> 4 ng s
> why do you cult 3 of them ??

Because cross posting is annoying and, simply, because my newsreader trims
posts automatically. I have to make a conscious effort to keep up with your
desire to spread nonsense across multiple groups, so I dont bother.

> while you actually say nothing??

I say as much that is on topic as you do.

> is it because actually your poast
> is not worth while even for one NG ??
> (:-)

Blah, blah.

> Mr Varney
> what is your day job??

Obviously you are not talking to me here, so I wont answer.

> it seems that you just a bump parasite
> hat could not get a decent day job!!

Boring and repetitive insult. You can do better.

Y.Porat

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On Nov 4, 8:14 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
wrote:

-----------------------
shameless crook imbecile
and moron parrot
go on with your Higgs Bosons theiries
to the rest of your life
you dont deserve more
you are a nasty creep and a thief as well
Y.P
-----------------------

Y.Porat

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On Nov 4, 9:14 pm, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 November 2009 15:26, in <1c83c3b2-1269-4331-b8d9-

-----------------
if you read my book
and find out that it is nonsense
**you will not bother to pass it to other people!!**

now what happens here is completely diffrent

people pass it from one to another one
they would not do it unless they feel that there is something new
and very unique special and innovative is going on
even if they cant follow it all along --without my help
keep well
idiot crook psychopath gangster
but it want help you
you cant cheat every one forever !!
even if you are Goebbels ...
Y.P
---------------------------

Inertial

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 4, 5:04 pm, "Cwatters"
> <colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
>> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:5102ff33-9c89-423b...@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > i dont mind people distributing my book!!
>> > i always send it free i do mind doing it without
>> > my permition and without telling me about it!!
>>
>> > is that an exaggerated request as a
>> > minimal reward for my hard long work ???!!
>>
>> > Y.Porat
>> > --------------------------
>>
>> Once you give something away it's no longer yours. Sure you can stop
>> people
>> coppying and selling a book but you can't stop them giving away a copy
>> you
>> gave them.
> -------------
> you missed mypoint!!
> i said about that i have no objection
> to distribute my book

Yet you stick up a big stink about it

> th eonly humble request i ask
> is to be fair to me as one who invested in it
> many years of my life
> so
> it is to inform me about any one who gets it
> or betetr to ask me before giving it
> to someone
> because excuse me
> i would like to filter the people that gets it
> (and i have some good reasons to do it...)

You do not have that right.

> 2
> the point here was another one
> i would hapyly give my book to someone like
> PD

Which he says you already did

> the thing that annoyed me very mauch
> is that Pd lied that i gve him that copy

Its your word against his.

> prsenting me as a senile old man

You are

> that insinuating by that
> that it is not worthy to take me seriously
> **in anything i do *

From the evidence of this forum, it isn't

> ie
> my model is worthnothing

Not what I've seen of it

> and that is a super crime against science !

You don't do science.

> a supercrime that a scientist can do
> from the ethics point of view
> because
> Pd undestood nothing
> *and could not undesrant anything ther
> without my help !!
> he has avery differnt education than me
> he never innovated anything in physics
> he has no real idea
> howe pioneering science is done!!
> because he never was there !!
> and topos as if my model is worth nothing
> is byond the limits of decency
> in less gentle words
> he is a crook
> because he knowes well
> that my model is unpfecedented

Unprecedented crap

> (provided he coud follow even a bit of it )
> but
> he is motivated by some
> PERSONAL POLITICS AGENDA!)
> whichis for him
> ABOVE ALL !!
> ie even above truth
> and that cannot be done by someone who
> pose himsemf as a PHYSICS TEACHER !!!
>
> science is not only this or that knowledge
> it is first of all
> HONESTY!

I see no evidence of him being dishonest. You, however, lie all the time

> someone who is not honest
> there is no way that he will be honest
> in science
> you can cheat people but you cant cheat nature !!

You just described yourself

Inertial

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You're an obsessed lying senile old fool. Get off the internet .. you're an
embarrassment.

Inertial

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> On Nov 4, 7:08 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Y.Porat wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> > now Moroney
>>
>> > what have you done with my book ??
>> > why ddint you tell me that you got it
>> > from the Psychopath Feurerbacher !!!
>>
>> He got it from somewhere else. Don't you remember...?
>>
>>
>>
>> > PEOPLE WHO ARE LIARS IN PERSONAL RELATIONS
>> > WILL BE LIARS ABOUT SCIENCE !!!
>>
>> > Y.Porat
>> > -------------------------
>
> Gisse
> i am 71
> but still alive and kicking!! (sad for you
> and Inertial .while both of you wish me die .... (:-)
> dont be mistaken about it !!
>
> becauase it whant help you
>
> He Moroney )got it from Bjoern Feuerbacher f

Seeing you lied to him when you said you'd also send him a copy

> who was a student in Heidelberg !!!
> i even remember that that idiot lier traitor
> Feuebacher scrambled on my book
> his idiotic parrots moron remarks

Which his is allowed to do

> and set it like that (without my permission to Moroney
> he told me that later

Liar .. you gave him permission to send it. You also said you would send a
copy to him, and did not.

Your lies are catching you out.

Inertial

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sue him Michael. We should all get a court order to forbid him from using
the internet to post criminal allegations against people.

Aleph

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Nov 4, 2009, 6:46:49 PM11/4/09
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On Wednesday 04 November 2009 20:44, in <f4843cfb-e1f4-4973-b37f-
d8b596...@v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:

> <snip for sanity>


> -----------------
> if you read my book

Why on Earth would I want to? Life is to short to destroy my brain cells in
that manner.

> and find out that it is nonsense

Undoubtedly. Unless you have an alter ego that is capable of writing
coherently and sensibly. If you do, please ask it to post here rather than
you.

> **you will not bother to pass it to other people!!**

Well, its better than burning it.

> now what happens here is completely diffrent

Why?

> people pass it from one to another one
> they would not do it unless they feel that there is something new

Possibly true - however you are trying to prevent this.

> and very unique special and innovative is going on

Unlikely.

> even if they cant follow it all along --without my help

That sounds quite likely.

> keep well

I am thanks.

> idiot crook psychopath gangster

You forgot Nazi parrot.

> but it want help you
> you cant cheat every one forever !!
> even if you are Goebbels ...

There you go.

Y.Porat

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Nov 5, 2009, 4:32:32 AM11/5/09
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On Nov 3, 4:05 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> in one of the latest discussions
> i asked PD
> how can you evaluate my model- if you dont have my book ??
> His answer :
> **i already have your book * !!
>
> !!!!!!!!!!!! ?????????
> i asked
> how can you have my book
> WHILE I NEVER GAVE IT TO YOU ???
>
> his answer   (sort of )
> you    are a senile old man who does not remember what he is
> doing!!......
>
> (between me and the other readers-
> we are going now to see if i am an old man
> who does not remember waht he is doing ...)
>
> so i saied to him
> if so
> please send me  a copy of the first  cover page
> on which i always ** write a personal dedication
> to the person i sed it ..
> no answer !!
>
> so i keep asking
> No answer...
> after a few days
> i get his brilliant  idea:
> ' i lost your book
> AND I DONT REMEMBER WERE IS IT ..."
> than i
> tell him:
> if so
> please  show me the correspondence between us
> to decide to which address i should post
> to you the book
>    (it was always by airmail)
> untill now he just ignore my questions
> and requests !!
>
> solet the other readers make thier conclutions
> about  that story
> and here is my understanding about what happened
>
> PD really got my book
> **but not from me !!
> he got a copy from someone lese
> while PD refuses to revaeal the name of the crook
> that sent him a copy of it
> you see
> the loyalty of PD to the crook that sent him the book
> is bigger than his loyalty to the** writer **the book !!!
> BTW it is not the first time that a similar story happened
> in another case
> a little crook from the Heidelberg University
> called     Bjorn  Feuerbacher
> sent a copy of my book
>   (AGAIN WITHOUT MY PERMITTION
> AND WITHOUT NOTIFYING ME)  -----
>
> ----  to another crook called Michel Moroney
> that as well didnt bother to inform me about it
>
> now just a little   detail to the readers
>  THAT BOOK IS COPYRIGHTED
> and itis nicely  written on the opening of it
>
> and i suppose that the rules of copyright
> are well known to  every one !!

>
> i dont mind people distributing my book!!
> i always send it free
> i do mind doing it without my permition
> and without telling me about it!!
>
> is that an exaggerated request as a
> minimal reward for  my hard long work ???!!
>
> Y.Porat
> --------------------------

please note that until now 5-11
PD
ddint respond to my accusation.....
no answer is an answer as well !!!

Y.P
--------------------------

Y.Porat

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Nov 5, 2009, 7:25:09 AM11/5/09
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On Nov 5, 1:46 am, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 November 2009 20:44, in <f4843cfb-e1f4-4973-b37f-

-----------------
io must say that
Aleph
responded this time in a semi civilized manner (:-)
thank you Aleph
btw
try to find out what is the meaning of Aleph
it has a distinctive definition.....
and origin
keep well
Y.Porat
----------------------------

Cwatters

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 4, 5:04 pm, "Cwatters"
<colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
>> Once you give something away it's no longer yours. Sure you can stop
>> people
>> coppying and selling a book but you can't stop them giving away a copy
>> you
>> gave them.
>-------------
>you missed mypoint!!
>i said about that i have no objection
>to distribute my book
>th eonly humble request i ask
>is to be fair to me as one who invested in it
>many years of my life so it is to inform
> me about any one who gets it

Have them sign a contract next time.


Aleph

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Nov 5, 2009, 10:53:47 AM11/5/09
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On Thursday 05 November 2009 09:32, in <814836cb-c7e7-45fe-

b91b-7ef...@t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:
>
> please note that until now 5-11
> PD
> ddint respond to my accusation.....

Why should he? Who made you the boss of Usenet?

> no answer is an answer as well !!!

On the contrary. No answer is no answer. You may draw a conclusion from
that, but that is a totally different thing.

As you are insane, its likely that your conclusion is madness.

Y.Porat

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Nov 5, 2009, 11:27:31 AM11/5/09
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On Nov 5, 3:30 pm, "Cwatters"
<colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message

---------------
how could i sign a contract
while i ddint know he has got the book!!

he ddint get it from me
**he got it from someone else!!**
dont you get the point ??
ps
he could get it from me directly! free
isuggested it forhim and he ignored my suggestion
do you see that oint as well::
he wated it in a way that no one will know
]he got it from me !
so may be one day he coul 'borrow' something of it and relate it to
himself or to some of his freinds !!...
btw
it is not the first time he behaved like that with me
in a nother case he
presented an idea of mine
without mensioning me as the orriginator
so peole would relate it as his idea
it was about
presenting the formula

E energy
of F force in high velocities
not as
F = Gamma m a
but rather

F/gamma = m a
AND m (mass) ** remains constant*
so i asked him
how come that you dont mention me
as orriginator
and he answered
*it was claimed 80 years ago
and rejected'' end of his quote

so i told him
80 years ago ??!!
how can you say that
'please show references'

and he could not find references
in other words
he was cheating !! (on my back )
so
is it a systematic behavior of PD??
(while counting on my 'bad memory ""??
may be he is doing it to other people as well ??
btw
anyone who is counting on my bad memory
will make a bad mistake
BTW
there is another 'figure' here
that got my book from me
and wishing me tolately openly in any post
- to die (:-)
is it a similar idea ??
ATB
Y.Porat
------------------------

ATB
Y.Porat
------------------------


ATB
Y.Porat
--------------------------------

Y.Porat

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Nov 5, 2009, 11:30:01 AM11/5/09
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On Nov 5, 5:53 pm, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 05 November 2009 09:32, in <814836cb-c7e7-45fe-
> b91b-7efcca443...@t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:
>
>
>
> > please note that until now 5-11
> > PD
> > ddint respond to my accusation.....
>
> Why should he? Who made you the boss of Usenet?
>
> > no answer is an answer as well  !!!
>
> On the contrary. No answer is no answer. You may draw a conclusion from
> that, but that is a totally different thing.
>
> As you are insane, its likely that your conclusion is madness.
>
> --
> Aleph
>
> This message was posted to usenet so please reply that way. Emails to
> this account are very likely to be ignored.

--------------
if your name is Paul Draper
please let me know about it (:-)
Y.P
-------------------------------

Aleph

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On Thursday 05 November 2009 16:27, in <1fee88e0-d258-49a1-82d1-

ae4120...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:

> On Nov 5, 3:30 pm, "Cwatters"

> <snip>


>>
>> Have them sign a contract next time.
>
> ---------------
> how could i sign a contract
> while i ddint know he has got the book!!

Do you deliberately miss the point?

The implication was, get the people whom you inflict the book upon to sign a
contract restricting what they do with it.

Without that, good look.

> he ddint get it from me
> **he got it from someone else!!**
> dont you get the point ??

Unlike you, everyone else got it.

> ps
> he could get it from me directly! free

Why would some one want to let *you* of all nutcases know where they lived?

Aleph

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On Thursday 05 November 2009 16:30, in <68e76002-8bbe-46d8-8fdc-

b75188...@o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:

>
> --------------
> if your name is Paul Draper
> please let me know about it (:-)

If I was, I would.

If your name is Elvis Presley, please let me know about it.

Michael Moroney

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Nov 5, 2009, 11:47:15 AM11/5/09
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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> writes:

>On Nov 4, 8:14=A0pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)


>wrote:
>> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> writes:
>> >now Moroney
>> >what have you done with my book ??
>>

>> Well, the "rectangular pipes" are too harsh on sensitive body parts to us=
>e
>> it as toilet paper, but as I mentioned, it does burn real well. =A0I use


>> firewood for some heat to save money and it's quite useful for starting
>> fires.

>-----------------------
>shameless crook imbecile
>and moron parrot
>go on with your Higgs Bosons theiries
>to the rest of your life
>you dont deserve more
>you are a nasty creep and a thief as well
>Y.P
>-----------------------

Tonight, we'll get to see how well "potassium" burns. It ought to be
exciting!

Cwatters

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> ---------------
>how could i sign a contract
>while i ddint know he has got the book!!

Duh..Not with him. Gosh you are slow.

Sign contracts with everyone you give your book to preventing them giving
their copy to anyone else without your permission.


David Bostwick

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Why would anyone steal this book? I wouldn't even bother reading it.

Inertial

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Nov 5, 2009, 8:52:50 PM11/5/09
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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> please note that until now 5-11
> PD
> ddint respond to my accusation.....
> no answer is an answer as well !!!

He probably has you blocked/plonked ... or just doesn't think your nonsense
allegations are worth responding to.

Inertial

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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He said he did

> isuggested it forhim and he ignored my suggestion
> do you see that oint as well::
> he wated it in a way that no one will know
> ]he got it from me !
> so may be one day he coul 'borrow' something of it and relate it to
> himself or to some of his freinds !!...
> btw
> it is not the first time he behaved like that with me
> in a nother case he
> presented an idea of mine
> without mensioning me as the orriginator
> so peole would relate it as his idea
> it was about
> presenting the formula
>
> E energy
> of F force in high velocities
> not as
> F = Gamma m a

Which is not the correct formula for force in SR anyway

> but rather
>
> F/gamma = m a

Which is the same incorrect formula trivially rewritten, not something you
can make any claim to

> AND m (mass) ** remains constant*

Which is the case anyway

> so i asked him
> how come that you dont mention me
> as orriginator

Because you are not.

> and he answered
> *it was claimed 80 years ago
> and rejected'' end of his quote
>
> so i told him
> 80 years ago ??!!
> how can you say that
> 'please show references'
>
> and he could not find references
> in other words
> he was cheating !! (on my back )

Nope. He just didn't find the references. Not that he has to.

> so
> is it a systematic behavior of PD??
> (while counting on my 'bad memory ""??
> may be he is doing it to other people as well ??
> btw
> anyone who is counting on my bad memory
> will make a bad mistake

You are senile

> BTW
> there is another 'figure' here
> that got my book from me
> and wishing me tolately openly in any post
> - to die (:-)
> is it a similar idea ??
> ATB
> Y.Porat

Get psychological help .. or die. Whichever is easier for you.

Y.Porat

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On Nov 5, 6:47 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)

-------------------
another idiot crook thief on the net !!
Y.P
---------------------

BURT

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Nov 5, 2009, 11:52:35 PM11/5/09
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> ---------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Falling things get slower in time.

Mitch Raemsch

Y.Porat

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On Nov 5, 6:30 pm, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 05 November 2009 16:27, in <1fee88e0-d258-49a1-82d1-

-----------------
as usual you are an idiot!! :
i was **always **arranging that corespondent
about were to send the book ----
PRIVATELY !!!
got it idiot gangster crook idiot ??
2
i was assuming *and expecting* -some ethics
from the people to whom i sent it !!

does the word 'ethics' is existing in your
gangster world - vocabulary
----

Y.P
----------------------------

Y.Porat

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On Nov 5, 8:18 pm, "Cwatters"
<colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message

--------------------
have you heared abiout ethics that is expected fromj scientists??
2
no contract is worth the paper it is written on
if the other side has no intention to
obey it !!!
so in those cases you have to gable on trust

and that is exactly my point against
all those who breached my trust

i want to present them as
peole whm you cant trust !!
and nothing more i can do about it !!

got the poing ??!!
2
by publishing those detiles
it is some way to * restore* a bit
of my copyrights ...
peole can have some betetr idea
to whom those copyrights really belongs!!
got the idea ??
it is not as much as i want to defame
say PD --- (i dont mind too much about him)

i mind more guarding my copyrights at lest in memory of people !!

that is the least i can do in these cases
and it is enough fo r me

(i am not going ((and i cant ) to sue anyone of them

ATB
Y.Porat
---------------------------

Y.Porat

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On Nov 5, 9:59 pm, david.bostw...@chemistry.gatech.edu (David
Bostwick) wrote:
> In article <S8KdnXTRd_V8i27XnZ2dnUVZ8oudn...@brightview.co.uk>, "Cwatters" <colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:1fee88e0-d258-49a1...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> >> ---------------
> >>how could i sign a contract
> >>while i ddint know he has got the book!!
>
> >Duh..Not with him. Gosh you are slow.
>
> >Sign contracts with everyone you give your book to preventing them giving
> >their copy to anyone else without your permission.
>
> Why would anyone steal this book?  I wouldn't even bother reading it.

----------------
it seems that you have no idea
about what you are talking about (:-)
did you ever saw or understood what is in that book ??

Y.P
-------------

Inertial

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:42:02 AM11/6/09
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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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If it is ANYTHING like what you post here .. it is crap .. using it for
toilet paper would be over-valuing it.

Inertial

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 5, 8:18 pm, "Cwatters"
> <colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
>> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1fee88e0-d258-49a1...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > ---------------
>> >how could i sign a contract
>> >while i ddint know he has got the book!!
>>
>> Duh..Not with him. Gosh you are slow.
>>
>> Sign contracts with everyone you give your book to preventing them giving
>> their copy to anyone else without your permission.
>
> --------------------
> have you heared abiout ethics that is expected fromj scientists??

You are neither ethical nor a scientist, as your post here prove

> 2
> no contract is worth the paper it is written on
> if the other side has no intention to
> obey it !!!
> so in those cases you have to gable on trust
>
> and that is exactly my point against
> all those who breached my trust
>
> i want to present them as
> peole whm you cant trust !!
> and nothing more i can do about it !!
>
> got the poing ??!!

the poing?

> 2
> by publishing those detiles
> it is some way to * restore* a bit
> of my copyrights ...
> peole can have some betetr idea
> to whom those copyrights really belongs!!
> got the idea ??
> it is not as much as i want to defame
> say PD --- (i dont mind too much about him)
>
> i mind more guarding my copyrights at lest in memory of people !!
>
> that is the least i can do in these cases
> and it is enough fo r me
>
> (i am not going ((and i cant ) to sue anyone of them

Then stop your allegations before someone sues you. Show some ethics of
your own.

Inertial

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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As he said .. why would ANYONE want to let you know their con tact details
.. you're mentally unbalanced. God only knows what you might do in one of
your fits of anger that you display in this forums so regularly.

> 2
> i was assuming *and expecting* -some ethics
> from the people to whom i sent it !!
>
> does the word 'ethics' is existing in your
> gangster world - vocabulary

Your behavior here shows you have none.

Y.y.Porat

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On Nov 4, 6:02 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5492e5d4-259a-441d...@t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 3, 9:28 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 3, 6:56 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...@gmail.com> writes:
> >> > >Y.Porat wrote:
> >> > >[...]
> >> > >I have a copy of your book too. I used it to start fires.
>
> >> > It's great for starting fires, isn't it.
>
> >> ------------------
> >> common  nasty pigg imbecile
> >> do you understand what is in that book?
>
> >> a pigg like you never informwed me about tthe fact that another
> >> shamless
> >> moron parrot pigg from Hedelberg
> >> sent you my book witrhout my permission
>
> >> with his idiotic remarks on it
> >> you never discused it withme
> >> and an matheamtics imbecile parrot like
> >> you has not the slightest chance to   understand it
>
> >> if it   so bad
> >> why   is it that this book
> >> is distributed*** under the ground*
> >> again and again
> >> to so    many people ??!!!
> >> 2
> >> where is your Higgs Boson Mr imbecile crook shameless parrot
> >> dont you think that your fucken books
> >> are better material for burning ??!!
> >> 3
> >> is that response of your nothing but
> >> a nasty attempt to cover your
> >> Piggish moronic  behavior against me ??!!
> >> while you are not only Moroney--
> >> you  are a nasty crook moron
> >> 4
> >> suppose even that htis book is worth nothing
>
> >> what is your piggish post to do with
> >> the fact that draper is a lier?
> >> is it a nasty attempt to divert the issue
> >> that you like him are thieves and crooks ??!!
> >> Y.P
> >> ------------------------

>
> > now Moroney
>
> > what have you done with my book ??
> > why ddint you     tell me that you got it
> > from the Psychopath   Feurerbacher   !!!
>
> > PEOPLE WHO ARE LIARS IN PERSONAL RELATIONS
> > WILL BE LIARS ABOUT SCIENCE !!!
>
> I've looked into the history of this.

so why dont you say that your real name
is Feuerbacher ???!!

 You TOLD him to send his annotated
> copy to Micheal and you'd send a new copy ..
but you didn't send it and then

dirty shameless lier psychopath :
show us that documentation of the new lie (for a change)
that confirms your above new story !!!
--------------


> complained that Michael hadn't received a full copy .. and now you claim
> that Michael got the book without your knowledge at all.  You're clearly the
> liar here.  You have zero credibility.
----------
lets see (first ) if Moroney will confirm your story
and we will see
how far away -Goebbles pupils can go !!

Y.P
---------------------------

Y.Porat

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some little crooks that are embarrassed by this thread
snipped it from sci.physics
soi will do them a service and bring some of it again
to sci.physics
and here it is
the new crook that poped in here is
Inertial *Fuerbacher in his previous name )

------------------------
quote

Inertial

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Because I don't lie

>> You TOLD him to send his annotated
>> copy to Micheal and you'd send a new copy ..
>> but you didn't send it and then
>
> dirty shameless lier psychopath :

Indeed you are.

> show us that documentation of the new lie (for a change)
> that confirms your above new story !!!

Its all in the google archives for all to see.


Y.Porat Nov 27 2003, 5:38 pm
==
ok it seems that at last we got a reasonable formula:
so i alow you to get a *copy of Bjoerns book with his notes*
and you will get my book with my new notes.
...
so please call me in my private e mail as shown above
and tell me where to air mail it.
==

>> complained that Michael hadn't received a full copy .. and now you claim
>> that Michael got the book without your knowledge at all. You're clearly
>> the
>> liar here. You have zero credibility.
> ----------
> lets see (first ) if Moroney will confirm your story

I don't see why he wouldn't .. he seems an honest person.

Perhaps you may have sent it much later .. who knows. You certainly didn't
do as you originally claimed.

> and we will see
> how far away -Goebbles pupils can go !!

Eh?

Inertial

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My newsserver limits crossposting. I have to remove some newsgroups from
your spamming.

> soi will do them a service and bring some of it again
> to sci.physics
> and here it is
> the new crook that poped in here is
> Inertial *Fuerbacher in his previous name )

Which, as is typical for porat, another lie.

eric gisse

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Y.Porat wrote:
[...]

Your posts are so much more entertaining to read when I imagine a
stereotypical ooolddd jew with a super-nasaly voice narrating them in such
broken English that it'd make a Russian blush.

Y.Porat

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(:-)
------------------

Y.Porat

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--------------------
little nasty lier pigy
let Moroney answer that
Y.P
--------------------

Inertial

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Yes, you are.

> let Moroney answer that

Answer what? You didn't ask anything. You just lied about me being this
Fuerbacher person.

Y.Porat

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----------------
you said that you folowed the correspondnece between
me and Fuerbacher
and Moroney
and fould that i permitted F to send a copy to
Moroney
and i (ip) will send another copy
to F
so how could you know that
while you are not F (Fuerbacher)
and you was not on the neyt at that time
if you was on the net then
then
please tell us what was your name then

(i never sent a copy to 'Inertial'
you are on the net mach later than those times
i sent it to F and moroney got it
only*** from F !! )
so where are you (inertial) in that story ??!!
TIA
Y.Porat
-----------------

Y.Porat

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-------------------------
here is again a quote fron 'Inertial'
(just a few posts above )
quote:
> now Moroney

> what have you done with my book ??
> why ddint you tell me that you got it
> from the Psychopath Feurerbacher !!!

> PEOPLE WHO ARE LIARS IN PERSONAL RELATIONS
> WILL BE LIARS ABOUT SCIENCE !!!

(and now that is from Inertial (y.p)

I've looked into the history of this. You TOLD him to send his


annotated
copy to Micheal and you'd send a new copy .. but you didn't send it
and then

complained that Michael hadn't received a full copy .. and now you
claim
that Michael got the book without your knowledge at all. You're
clearly the
liar here. You have zero credibility.

-----------------------
end of quote
and now the quote with my remarks in it
in brackets ):

> now Moroney

> what have you done with my book ??
> why ddint you tell me that you got it
> from the Psychopath Feurerbacher !!!

> PEOPLE WHO ARE LIARS IN PERSONAL RELATIONS
> WILL BE LIARS ABOUT SCIENCE !!!

(that is now Inertials intervention in it
without anyone asking him to intervene)....

I've looked into the history of this. You

(who is you ??)
TOLD him
(who is him?)


to send his annotated
copy to Micheal and you'd send a new copy .

(i would send another copt to whom ??)

. but you didn't send it

(didnt send it to whom ?)

and then
complained
(who was complaining ? )

that Michael hadn't received a full copy .

(i Y.P was complaining that Moroney hadnt
received a full copy ??!!
how could i know that he recieved a copy
and how could i complain that itis not a full copy
any WHY SHOULD I COMPLAIN THAT** HE** DIDNT GOT A FULL COPY??!!)

. and now you claim
that Michael got the book without your knowledge at all.

(of course i claim that
becuse the ***onlLY ORRIGINAL ***!!! i sent to that couple
FEUERBACHER AND MORONEY ---
WAS ONLY --- TO FEUERBACHER !!!))

You're clearly the
liar here. You have zero credibility.

endof quote

and now my y.p remark:

now what the fuck is it your (inertial ) business to intervene
between me and Moroney even before Morony answered ??!!
2
where is the fuck
your ** recorded backup**
for all that above story that you invented
and were did you found it ???!!!

3 what was your name on the net then ??
(it is many years before ''you'' came in with your
new name - Inertial !!)
4
and again ---
recorded backup to your story please !!
ps
and i have similar questions to PD as well
TIA
Y.Porat
------------------


Inertial

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Gees .. you stuffed up all the '>' there .. hard to tell who said what.

> (that is now Inertials intervention in it
> without anyone asking him to intervene)....

One doesn't NEED to be asked

> I've looked into the history of this. You
>
> (who is you ??)

You .. I was replying to you.

> TOLD him
> (who is him?)

Feurerbacher

> to send his annotated
> copy to Micheal and you'd send a new copy .
>
> (i would send another copt to whom ??)

Moroney

> . but you didn't send it
>
> (didnt send it to whom ?)

Moroney

> and then
> complained
> (who was complaining ? )

You.

Gees you are senile .. and have problems reading simple sentences

> that Michael hadn't received a full copy .
>
> (i Y.P was complaining that Moroney hadnt
> received a full copy ??!!

You did

> how could i know that he recieved a copy

You were told

> and how could i complain that itis not a full copy

You did

> any WHY SHOULD I COMPLAIN THAT** HE** DIDNT GOT A FULL COPY??!!)

You did. Who knows why.. you're a senile old fool, I don't expect there to
be any logic or sense to what you do.

> . and now you claim
> that Michael got the book without your knowledge at all.
>
> (of course i claim that
> becuse the ***onlLY ORRIGINAL ***!!! i sent to that couple
> FEUERBACHER AND MORONEY ---
> WAS ONLY --- TO FEUERBACHER !!!))

And you agreed for FEUERBACHER to send his copy with his notes to Moroney,
and you'd send Moroney a new full copy.

> You're clearly the
> liar here. You have zero credibility.
> endof quote
>
> and now my y.p remark:
>
> now what the fuck is it your (inertial ) business to intervene
> between me and Moroney even before Morony answered ??!!

Because you post your lies and allegations on a public forum. One doesn't
need permission or an invitation to respond

> 2
> where is the fuck
> your ** recorded backup**

Google

> for all that above story that you invented

Liar .. I didn't invent any of it. Its all recorded history.

> and were did you found it ???!!!

Google .. I gave you the date for your quote where you "alow" Feuerbacher to
send his annotaed version to Moroney and you would send a new copy to
moroney as well

> 3 what was your name on the net then ??

None of you business

> (it is many years before ''you'' came in with your
> new name - Inertial !!)

Yes it was.

> 4
> and again ---
> recorded backup to your story please !!

Its all in google groups archive

> ps
> and i have similar questions to PD as well

Just shut the fuck up you senile old fool. You're an embarrassment to
yourself.

Inertial

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> where is the fuck
> your ** recorded backup**
> for all that above story that you invented
> and were did you found it ???!!!

As per my earlier reply to you, from google usenet archives...

Y.Porat

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> -----------------------
so again to that Inertial shameless Goebbels

just **copy and past all those quoted
sections in Google**

including the one in which a greed to send
and an ****additional ** copy either to Feuerbacher
or to moroney !!!

TIA
Y.Porat
---------------------------

Y.Porat

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-------------------

if i ddint remember all the details
in the Moroney case
i apologize !!
it was 6 years ago
but still there is another case on our table ...
see later
2
anyway
the sentence:
> ''and you will get my book with my new notes.''
> ...
seems to me a forgery!!
i dont know myself as such an altruist ....
so please
tell us exactly where any one and
not only you can find the real
orriginal of that quote by **himself**
2
i n any case
that 'Permtssion of mine
was
ONLY AFTER FEUERBACHER SENT
A COPY WITH HIS IDIOTIC REMARKS
TO MORONEY (the other idiot crook ) -->>>

-->**WITHOUT MY PERDITION
again
**WITHOUT MY PERDITION**!!!

i never alowed *and still dont allow*** any one to send a copy or
original
to someone else without my perdition
because that way
i would lost all control on that book and what is in it !!
and Moroney knew that the book is copyrighted
and getting it without permition of the writer
is a breach of copyright laws
and not least ---- ETHICS

**neither Fuerbacher nor morony
inform me while that deal was done by them

AND THE SAME WITH PD!!
he never informed me **in time*
that he got the book
***and untill this moment***
FROM WHOM DID HE GOT IT !!

TIA
Y.Porat
---------------------


i dont remeber myself
signing:------>

----->Y.Porat Nov 27 2003, 5:38 pm

TIA
Y.Porat
-------------------------


Inertial

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I have nothing to be ashamed of .. unlike you

> just **copy and past all those quoted
> sections in Google**
> including the one in which a greed to send
> and an ****additional ** copy either to Feuerbacher
> or to moroney !!!

I have twice already. Its all in google .. look it up if you want .. though
surely you remember it all. Oh, that's right ,you're senile

Inertial

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> On Nov 7, 11:14 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
>> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:5c495979-d592-4686...@d5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > where is the fuck
>> > your ** recorded backup**
>> > for all that above story that you invented
>> > and were did you found it ???!!!
>>
>> As per my earlier reply to you, from google usenet archives...
>>
>> Y.Porat Nov 27 2003, 5:38 pm
>> ==
>> ok it seems that at last we got a reasonable formula:
>> so i alow you to get a *copy of Bjoerns book with his notes*
>> and you will get my book with my new notes.
>> ...
>> so please call me in my private e mail as shown above
>> and tell me where to air mail it.
>> ==
> -------------------
>
> if i ddint remember all the details
> in the Moroney case
> i apologize !!

Yet you were eso quick to bring it back up and make more accusations of
thievery in his case

> it was 6 years ago


> but still there is another case on our table ...
> see later
> 2
> anyway
> the sentence:
>> ''and you will get my book with my new notes.''
>> ...
> seems to me a forgery!!

OMG .. you just don't give up do you .. according to you everyone is a crook
.. what a sad life you must have

Its in the google archives .. you posted it

> i dont know myself as such an altruist ....
> so please
> tell us exactly where any one and
> not only you can find the real
> orriginal of that quote by **himself**

In google, where I found it.

> 2
> i n any case
> that 'Permtssion of mine
> was
> ONLY AFTER FEUERBACHER SENT
> A COPY WITH HIS IDIOTIC REMARKS
> TO MORONEY (the other idiot crook ) -->>>

Doesn't seem like it from the google thread

> -->**WITHOUT MY PERDITION
> again
> **WITHOUT MY PERDITION**!!!

Who cares/

> i never alowed *and still dont allow*** any one to send a copy or
> original
> to someone else without my perdition

You have no say over what they do with it once they get it. They can burn
it, sell it, give it away, whatever they like. Unless you make them sign
some legal document where they agree not to.

> because that way
> i would lost all control on that book and what is in it !!

What is in it is what you wrote. That's bad enough. If you want control of
it, then don't send it to anyone.

> and Moroney knew that the book is copyrighted
> and getting it without permition of the writer
> is a breach of copyright laws

Its not

> and not least ---- ETHICS

From the google thread he had your permission. Although you went back on
your word to send a full copy to moroney.

> **neither Fuerbacher nor morony
> inform me while that deal was done by them

I don't believe you .. you have no credibility

> AND THE SAME WITH PD!!
> he never informed me **in time*
> that he got the book
> ***and untill this moment***
> FROM WHOM DID HE GOT IT !!

He doesn't have to tell you when and from whom he got the book.

He said he got it from you .. you probably forgot, or are just lying about
it. Neither would surprise me.

Inertial

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> 2
> anyway
> the sentence:
>> ''and you will get my book with my new notes.''
>> ...
> seems to me a forgery!!
> i dont know myself as such an altruist ....
> so please
> tell us exactly where any one and
> not only you can find the real
> orriginal of that quote by **himself**

http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.physics/msg/8cd8259b3cd0c0e6?hl=en&q=%22and+you+will+get+my+book+with+my+new+notes%22#8cd8259b3cd0c0e6

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a fucken Goebbels like you dont care !!
now you show some of your real face !!


>
> > i never alowed  *and still dont allow***  any  one to send  a copy or
> > original
> > to  someone else without my   perdition
>
> You have no say over what they do with it

foe fucken Goebbless like you
i have no say !!!
(not to mention that you never innovated anything in your life and
that is why
you are so insensitive to copyrights values !!)
---
-----


once they get it.  They can burn
> it, sell it, give it away, whatever they like.  Unless you make them sign
> some legal document where they agree not to.
>
> > because that way
> > i would lost all control on that book and what is in it !!
>
> What is in it is what you wrote.  That's bad enough.

a little fucker that didnt innnovate anything in his life
IS NOT I N A POSITION TOEVALUATE
MY MODEL
but that not rhe main issue now
it is a side remark

 If you want control of
> it, then don't send it to anyone.

as you did ...... (:-)


>
> > and Moroney knew that the book is copyrighted
> > and getting it without permition of the writer
> > is a breach of copyright laws
>
> Its not
>
> > and not least ---- ETHICS
>
> From the google thread he had your permission.  Although you went back on
> your word to send a full copy to moroney.
>
> > **neither Fuerbacher nor morony
> > inform me while that deal was done by them
>
> I don't believe you .. you have no credibility

> -------------------------------

> > AND THE    SAME WITH PD!!
> > he never informed me **in time*
> > that he got the book
> > ***and untill    this moment***
> > FROM WHOM DID HE GOT IT   !!
>
> He doesn't have to tell you when and from whom he got the book.
>
> He said he got it from you .. you probably forgot, or are just lying about
> it.  Neither would surprise me.

-----------------
ok
about PD
if he admitted he got a copy
he should be able to bring original quotes
from the registered record of Google
or from his private mail
to show that there was
ANY correspondence between us
about shwing that i agreed to send him
b
discussions between us about to what address
to send it etc

he could at least give some hint
about
HOW LONG AGO WAS IT ??
but he will never did it
do you know why ???
because he knows well
that once you start to lie
he more you go on with it
and entaggle youself more an more !!!
the best weapon is the truth
now about Moroney
since he proved himself as unreliable
in personal relations therefore **ethics**

he proved hmself as unrelaible in his
scientific assessments !!
not to menstion that he suggested to burn my book
(or already did it !!)

60 years ago
some poele burned books
and later burned human beings!!
it seems the he belongs to those people
who started by burnig books
and their **credibility**

and you Inertial
wished me to die many times
so
that is for your personality
and
your scientific assessments as well !!

Y.Porat
-----------------


Inertial

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That's right

> now you show some of your real face !!

I don't care a stuff whether you gave your permission. I don't care who
gets your book.

>> > i never alowed *and still dont allow*** any one to send a copy or
>> > original
>> > to someone else without my perdition
>>
>> You have no say over what they do with it
>
> foe fucken Goebbless like you
> i have no say !!!

That's right

> (not to mention that you never innovated anything in your life and
> that is why
> you are so insensitive to copyrights values !!)

You don't know

> ---
> -----
> once they get it. They can burn
>> it, sell it, give it away, whatever they like. Unless you make them sign
>> some legal document where they agree not to.
>>
>> > because that way
>> > i would lost all control on that book and what is in it !!
>>
>> What is in it is what you wrote. That's bad enough.
> a little fucker that didnt innnovate anything in his life
> IS NOT I N A POSITION TOEVALUATE
> MY MODEL

I don't care about your shit and nonsense

> but that not rhe main issue now
> it is a side remark
>
> If you want control of
>> it, then don't send it to anyone.
>
> as you did ...... (:-)

Eh?

He is ignoring you .. very wise

> b
> discussions between us about to what address
> to send it etc
>
> he could at least give some hint
> about
> HOW LONG AGO WAS IT ??

Why should he?

> but he will never did it
> do you know why ???
> because he knows well
> that once you start to lie
> he more you go on with it
> and entaggle youself more an more !!!

You are a good example of that

> the best weapon is the truth
> now about Moroney
> since he proved himself as unreliable
> in personal relations therefore **ethics**

Whatever .. you have no credibility. I don't believe anything you say

> he proved hmself as unrelaible in his
> scientific assessments !!

Whatever .. you have no credibility. I don't believe anything you say

> not to menstion that he suggested to burn my book
> (or already did it !!)

If he did, he was probably wise

> 60 years ago
> some poele burned books
> and later burned human beings!!

Are you offering to burn yourself if your book is burned?

> it seems the he belongs to those people
> who started by burnig books
> and their **credibility**

You have none. . you're a liar

> and you Inertial
> wished me to die many times

Yeup .. you still haven't done it yet. Hurry up.

> so
> that is for your personality
> and
> your scientific assessments as well !!

You don't produce anything worthy of scientific assessment.

Y.Porat

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>
> news:bc2dfcf9-a503-4f9d...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > 2
> > anyway
> > the sentence:
> >> ''and you will get my book with my new notes.''
> >> ...
> > seems to   me a forgery!!
> > i  dont know myself as such an altruist ....
> > so please
> > tell us exactly where any one and
> > not only you     can find the real
> > orriginal of that quote by   **himself**
>
> http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.physics/msg/8cd8259b3cd0c0e6?hl...

-----------------
thank you Inertial for your diligence
but
it is only now thqat wwe start with it!!

the quote showes clearly that i didnt allow F
to send a copy to morobey!!
i was croos tha he did it
and it is written there

2
i wrote ther to Moroney
oleae contact me tomyprivete e mail etc
**but he ddint cuntact me !!
and he ad no reason to be anoyed or diaapponted with me !!
so
both of them breached the lawas of colyright
and Ethics
and such peple are not in a postion to evaluate my book!

3
if you are so good in finding quotes
why dont you help PD find his relevant quotes??!!

i will tell you why :
since you are actually Bjoern Feuerbacher !!
you had a burning interest to find the
correspondence between us and Moroney
or else it is an irational motivation to do it for someone
else !!

i have many indications that you are
Feurbacher
or else
were did he disappeared ??

2
you refuse to i reveal your real name
and why you are so familiar
and interested with what was
6 years ago while you are jsut a short time on that net with your
new name
and why you are so obssesed with me
you started attacking me the moment you went in
with you new name
it is unreasonable !!
one ofthe reasons you are so obsessed withme
was
that i revealed you as the Fertz photon idea !!!....
and i have many other indications
for instanc that there is no decent reason
why you should not reveal you real name

but as for now
just help PD to find his 'clearing ' documents'
since you showed you are so capable of it
and did it for morony and F
so quickly (:-)
why not for PD .......???
TIA
Y.Porat
------------------------


Michael Moroney

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>-->**WITHOUT MY PERDITION
>again
>**WITHOUT MY PERDITION**!!!

>i never alowed *and still dont allow*** any one to send a copy or
>original
>to someone else without my perdition

It seems I've gotten a _lot_ of "perdition" from you for being on the
receiving end of your stupid book, back then, and now now.

Y.Porat

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On Nov 7, 6:25 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
wrote:

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waht are you mumbling is not clear
speak directly and simply folowed by examples
an idiot parrot like you certianly could not understand that book
now
sicne in that quote that feuerbacher brougth
mentioned that i offered you to call me
and get a book without those silly remarks of Feuerbacher on it
and i suggested that you will call me privately
to my E mail in order that we will arrange
the shipping of the book to to your address
so my question is
ddi you responded to my E mail about
where to send a new book??
and as a result got a new one ??
or you remained only with the copy F sent to you ??

2
those remarks of Feuerbacher
on my book - were in German ??

TIA
Y.Porat
------------------------

Michael Moroney

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Nov 7, 2009, 2:43:11 PM11/7/09
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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> writes:

>On Nov 7, 6:25 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
>wrote:
>> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> writes:
>> >-->**WITHOUT MY PERDITION
>> >again
>> >**WITHOUT MY PERDITION**!!!
>> >i never alowed *and still dont allow*** any one to send a copy or
>> >original
>> >to someone else without my perdition
>>
>> It seems I've gotten a _lot_ of "perdition" from you for being on the
>> receiving end of your stupid book, back then, and now now.

>-----------------
>waht are you mumbling is not clear
>speak directly and simply folowed by examples

Look up "perdition" in a dictionary, fool.

>and i suggested that you will call me privately
>to my E mail in order that we will arrange
>the shipping of the book to to your address
>so my question is
>ddi you responded to my E mail about
>where to send a new book??
>and as a result got a new one ??
>or you remained only with the copy F sent to you ??

I don't remember seeing a request to send me another copy, nor would I
want or need one. Feuerbacher's comments did not obscure your text.

>those remarks of Feuerbacher
>on my book - were in German ??

English.

Inertial

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Nov 7, 2009, 5:28:18 PM11/7/09
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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 7, 2:21 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
>> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:bc2dfcf9-a503-4f9d...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > 2
>> > anyway
>> > the sentence:
>> >> ''and you will get my book with my new notes.''
>> >> ...
>> > seems to me a forgery!!
>> > i dont know myself as such an altruist ....
>> > so please
>> > tell us exactly where any one and
>> > not only you can find the real
>> > orriginal of that quote by **himself**
>>
>> http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.physics/msg/8cd8259b3cd0c0e6?hl...
>
> -----------------
> thank you Inertial for your diligence
> but
> it is only now thqat wwe start with it!!

Start with what?

> the quote showes clearly that i didnt allow F
> to send a copy to morobey!!

Can't you read?

> i was croos tha he did it
> and it is written there

Indeed it is.

> 2
> i wrote ther to Moroney
> oleae contact me tomyprivete e mail etc
> **but he ddint cuntact me !!

There is record of you making a big fuss about how you would never have
offered to send your book.

So I have no reason to believe that, especially as you have shown your
memory is very poor about these events, and you have demonstrated that you
have no credibility and that you lie without shame in this and your other
thread.

If Moroney or some third party confirms it, or I find other evidence to
support your claim, then I'll believe it. Not until then.

> and he ad no reason to be anoyed or diaapponted with me !!
> so
> both of them breached the lawas of colyright

Nope, you gave permission for him to send it.

> and Ethics

Nope

> and such peple are not in a postion to evaluate my book!

I doubt it warrant evaluation, if it is anything like the nonsense you post
here.

> 3
> if you are so good in finding quotes
> why dont you help PD find his relevant quotes??!!

OK, I will, but its probably going to be harder to find anything as I have
less to search on

> i will tell you why :
> since you are actually Bjoern Feuerbacher !!

Wrong

> you had a burning interest to find the
> correspondence between us and Moroney
> or else it is an irational motivation to do it for someone
> else !!

What is irrational about helping someone else .. oh sorry, you wouldn't
understand that notion.

> i have many indications that you are
> Feurbacher

Nope

> or else
> were did he disappeared ??

No idea. You'd have to ask him, or someone who knows him.

> 2
> you refuse to i reveal your real name

I have no reason to reveal it.

> and why you are so familiar
> and interested with what was
> 6 years ago while you are jsut a short time on that net with your
> new name

Because you brought it up

> and why you are so obssesed with me

I'm not

> you started attacking me the moment you went in
> with you new name

You're always on the attack, Porat.

> it is unreasonable !!

Nope. I've tried reasoning with you, and you attack and lie and make
unfounfed accusations of thievery and dishonesty and insult and deride.
You're incapably of a rational discussion, so there is no point in
approaching you in that way

> one ofthe reasons you are so obsessed withme
> was
> that i revealed you as the Fertz photon idea !!!....

Nope

> and i have many other indications
> for instanc that there is no decent reason
> why you should not reveal you real name

Of course there is

> but as for now
> just help PD to find his 'clearing ' documents'
> since you showed you are so capable of it
> and did it for morony and F
> so quickly (:-)
> why not for PD .......???

All I can find is you offering to send him the book and asking him to email
his details to you. I don't know what happened after that.

Inertial

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Nov 7, 2009, 5:36:17 PM11/7/09
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"Michael Moroney" <mor...@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
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Ok .. I'll accept as likely now that porat did not receive information for
where to send his book to you. Though from the google history, he clearly
had no intention to send it anyway despite his earlier offer to so.

Y.Porat

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:29:33 PM11/7/09
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On Nov 7, 9:43 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)

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so what was your interest
to get a copy of that book ??
(while i was -an still am a crackpot ??)

TIA
Y.Porat
-----------------------

Y.Porat

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:48:08 PM11/7/09
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On Nov 8, 12:36 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> "Michael Moroney" <moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message

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1 how can you say that i had no intention
to send it to Moroney
yuddint understand (as usual) why was htat offer tosend him
another book WITH MY REMARKS !!
it was because i wanted to show him
that thelittle fucker Feurbacher
could not understand it
**without my help *
because all of you come from the
parroting mathematics school
and you have not the slightest education
to understand something that is not
created in another system of research
done by a person with skills that you dont have !!
for instance to
create and analize a 3D STRUCTURE
not only qualitatively but quantitatively
accompanied my chemistry knowlwdge
for instance
why a 3d excat structure of a nuc
can result a cubic crystal of say
the Na Cl crystal
or why
the exact 3D structure of the nucs of
Na and Carbon
can make the double bond
and tripple bond of two Carbon atoms
and the exact distance between the nucs
in the double and tripple bond
while all that fits exactly my #d structure
of those nucs and Atoms
shwin as well that only 4 orbitals take place in that structure
and all of that by a always
again allways
A CONSTANT LENTH OF THE ELECTRON
ORBITAL
ALLOVER THE PERIODIC TABLE AS WELL
WITH OTHER COMPOUNDS !
so i wanted to show the fuckenmoron mathematicians that they are
pompous
ignorants
that got at the end to the
fucken Boson entity
that is now breaking the heads i LHC
and wasting fortunes of money and human resources
on crackpot religion science !!
but who cars while
all that stupidity
is nice income and salary - to so many people !!

ATB
Y.Porat
------------------------

Y.Porat

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:51:53 PM11/7/09
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On Nov 8, 12:36 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> "Michael Moroney" <moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message

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thank you inertial for giving me that slight little credit

now inertial
i have a question to you :

is it possible that there will be a photon with
the frequency of

one billion years per cycle ??

TIA
Y.Porat
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Inertial

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Nov 8, 2009, 1:53:07 AM11/8/09
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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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From your subsequent replies in the thread about it. Do i have post links
to more of what you said to prove you a liar again?

[snip more porat ranting and raving]

Inertial

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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I am always honest.

> now inertial
> i have a question to you :

Fine ... bet its nothing new ...

> is it possible that there will be a photon with
> the frequency of
>
> one billion years per cycle ??

As expected .. same old question again. I've answered this many times
before. But once more, because I feel generous ... There is no physics
theory I am aware of that gives a reason why there could not be, and no
logical reason why not. So that means is a possibility, unless proven
otherwise. Of course, we'll probably never know, as a photon with that low
a frequency would have such low energy that we could probably not ever
detect one if it did. And further, there is no reason why we would need to
go looking for such a photon, as there's plenty of other easier to find
photons around that we can do useful things with. So really .. it doesn't
make any difference if there is such a photon or not.

Y.Porat

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:46:39 AM11/8/09
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On Nov 8, 9:12 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
---------------------
you still didnt understand why i asked it
it is not only just to tease you

it has a much deeper *serious* meaning and better understanding
of physics
and if you like
the physics **system **

so i will ask another question::


is it possible that there will be a photon

with the frequency of
**on cycle per 100 Billion years ??**

TIA
Y.Porat
--------------------


Y.Porat
----------------------------

Y.Porat

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:52:36 AM11/8/09
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since the sci.chem was snipped out
i will send it again with the sci,chem included
it is important for me that sci,chem people will see it as well
so
-----------------
here again for the chemists :

> A CONSTANT one !! LENGTH OF THE ELECTRON
> ORBITAL !!


> ALLOVER THE PERIODIC TABLE AS WELL
> WITH OTHER COMPOUNDS !

> so i wanted to show the fucken moron mathematicians that they are still


> pompous
> ignorants
> that got at the end to the
> fucken Boson entity

> that is now breaking the heads i LHC
> and wasting fortunes of money and human resources
> on crackpot religion science !!
> but who cars while
> all that stupidity
> is nice income and salary - to so many people !!

>-------------------------
end of reminder

ATB
Y.Porat
--------------------

Y.Porat

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:57:34 AM11/8/09
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typo
while i said
the wrong Boson entity
it should be
The*** Higgs** Boson entity
Y.P
-------------------

Inertial

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:41:13 AM11/8/09
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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I really don't care. You're mentally unbalanced.

> it is not only just to tease you

You failed if that is what you thought you were donig.

> it has a much deeper *serious* meaning and better understanding
> of physic

> and if you like
> the physics **system **

You don't understand physics

> so i will ask another question::
> is it possible that there will be a photon
>
> with the frequency of
> **on cycle per 100 Billion years ??**

Wow .. what an incredibly different question .. that was sarcasm in case you
wondered

Same answer .. You've done all this before with me several times .. but then
,you're senile so you probably don't remember. You are boring me. Yawn.

Y.Porat

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Nov 8, 2009, 6:42:17 AM11/8/09
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Good for you Feurbacher
you made some advance since 6 yeas ago
but not good enough !!
try better you are on the right way
anyway
if you can help now PD you are welcome
Y.P
---------------------------

Inertial

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:25:05 AM11/8/09
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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You do know that you are wrong about who you think I am .. and not the first
time. But then, you can't help but lie and make false allegations .. that's
what we expect of dishonest people like you. And you never fail to live
down to our expectations.

> you made some advance since 6 yeas ago
> but not good enough !!

You are no judge of what is 'good enough' .. you're just a senile old fool
who is deluded in thinking he can understand physics without any education
or scientific understanding, and realizing his life is nearly over is trying
to find some purpose for it all by wanting to make 'innovations' but instead
makes a fool of himself. Sad .. very sad.

> try better you are on the right way
> anyway
> if you can help now PD you are welcome

Eh?

Y.Porat

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:58:32 AM11/8/09
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---------------------
i will twll you a sroty about why you donr help PD to restore some
diocumentaion

1
you cant
(actually no one can ...)
2
he next story:

a criminal wa sentenced todeath by the electric chair
so
his prisoners bring him to the chair
but the chap is too fat far too fat to sit in that chair
so
his prisoners tell you
common
you have 3 weeks to pull of 30 KG of your weight
do you understand ??
yes
now after 3weeks they come to sit him on that electric chair but
still the prisoner is far from fitting in..
so the prisoners ask him angrily
why didnt you lost 30 Kg of your weight??!!

he think a while and then say softly

I HAVE A PROBLEM OF MOTIVATION.....

keep well
Y.Porast
----------------

Aleph

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:53:45 AM11/8/09
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:28:28 -0800, in the mystical message
76234ee5-b67d-485e...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, Y.Porat
wrote:

<snip whining>
> 4
> suppose even that htis book is worth nothing

Which seems to be the case.

What are you charging for it?

> what is your piggish post to do with
> the fact that draper is a lier?
> is it a nasty attempt to divert the issue that you like him are thieves
> and crooks ??!! Y.P

Yawn, more whining..


Aleph

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:54:44 AM11/8/09
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On Friday 06 November 2009 04:52, in <3798d002-
c7a1-41ad-8c4...@d9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, BURT sat down and
wrote:


>
> Falling things get slower in time.
>

Aww, mitch, were you feeling ignored? Did you need to get your KookOn with
Porat?

--
Aleph

This message was posted to usenet so please reply that way. Emails to
this account are very likely to be ignored.

Aleph

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:56:42 AM11/8/09
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On Friday 06 November 2009 05:12, in
<4cd32b6a-57b6-40e4...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat
sat down and wrote:

> On Nov 5, 9:59 pm, david.bostw...@chemistry.gatech.edu (David
> Bostwick) wrote:
>> In article <S8KdnXTRd_V8i27XnZ2dnUVZ8oudn...@brightview.co.uk>,


>> "Cwatters" <colin.wattersNOS...@TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >"Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> >news:1fee88e0-d258-49a1-82d1-
ae4120...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>> >> ---------------
>> >>how could i sign a contract
>> >>while i ddint know he has got the book!!
>>
>> >Duh..Not with him. Gosh you are slow.
>>
>> >Sign contracts with everyone you give your book to preventing them
>> >giving their copy to anyone else without your permission.
>>
>> Why would anyone steal this book? I wouldn't even bother reading it.
>
> ----------------
> it seems that you have no idea
> about what you are talking about (:-)

How do you work that out?

> did you ever saw or understood what is in that book ??
>
> Y.P
> -------------

Message has been deleted

Y.Porat

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On Nov 8, 10:59 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
wrote:
> Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> writes:
> >On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:20:12 -0800, in the mystical message
> >b56e5222-71b3-4442-9f29-c63e1c818...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, Y.Porat
> >wrote:
> ><snip drivel>
> >Your whining is getting repetitive.
>
> I can't believe Porat is still whining over how I got a copy of his "book"
> some six years ago, or whenever it was.
>
> It was sheer chance I even saw this thread, I saw the title with Porat as
> author and just knew I'd be mentioned.

--------------------
where is now that copy ??

TIA
Y.Porat
-----------------------------

Y.Porat

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:24:34 PM11/9/09
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On Nov 7, 6:25 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
wrote:

---------------------
nasty little crook moron

you still ddint answer my question:

where is now the copy of my book
that you got from
the psychopath Feuerbacher

TIA
Y.Porat
----------------------------

eric gisse

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:30:34 PM11/9/09
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Y.Porat wrote:

Why do you feel it is any of your business, you fucking fruitloop?

>
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ----------------------------

Y.Porat

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:25:05 AM11/10/09
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=========================

just have a look
on the mug of this creature (:-)

http://www.facebook.com/eric.gisse

now i start to understand the disturbed behavior !!

Gisse
a friendly advice:
just erase that mug of yours
as quickly as possible
because if you science and integrity is like
you joke mug
you are not going anywhere -
ps if you can marry a girl
at lease marry your boyfriend !!
Y.P
-----------------------------


eric gisse

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Nov 10, 2009, 7:05:20 AM11/10/09
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Y.Porat wrote:
[...]

>> > where is now the copy of my book
>> > that you got from
>> > the psychopath Feuerbacher
>>
>> Why do you feel it is any of your business, you fucking fruitloop?
> =========================
>
> just have a look
> on the mug of this creature (:-)
>
> http://www.facebook.com/eric.gisse
>
> now i start to understand the disturbed behavior !!

Nothing says 'sinister' like earbuds. Then again I did have Tool on that
ipod.

>
> Gisse
> a friendly advice:
> just erase that mug of yours
> as quickly as possible
> because if you science and integrity is like
> you joke mug
> you are not going anywhere -
> ps if you can marry a girl
> at lease marry your boyfriend !!

That doesn't even make any sense. I know it is an insult but it is so
incoherent that I can't even muster offense. I can see you don't like how I
look, are equally unhappy with a picture of me as not a picture of me, and
ineptly reached for a sexuality slam.

So let's revisit the original question...what business is it of yours what
someone does with their property? Cuz when you send something to someone, it
isn't yours anymore.

> Y.P
> -----------------------------

Y.Porat

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:11:44 AM11/10/09
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1
we still remember your orrinional
picture on facebook
2
i vever saw
any of the participants of all tose NG
who publish anything in face book
3
if youwhabt to know seriously why i 'land ' on you merciless
it is becuse you have not the slightst eduation
about ethics among people
you say
sort of what is it your bussiness tofind out
what wa done with a copy of orriginal
of my book
first of a;; i can say
wHat is it YOUR FUCKEN BUSINESS??!!
you behave like ashemless animal
not to mentionthat you never has
a copyrighted book so you completely
lack the minimal sensitivity
to human property !!
if MOroney got it as a copyrighted book
a minimal standard of ethics
whould demand
that atleast he would treat it as a property
of someone else !!
he should ask me if i agree to pass it to someone lese
and laterinform me tha the did it !!
got it nasty animal
(iwill save you this time to menstion some
known nasty leader in central Europ
as one of your teachers and moral standards
(actually i find some connection between
your looks and its influence on your behavior )!!

4
if you will get of my back
i will get of yours
i never attack personally
unless someone did it to me first !!
and if fo r instance as the op included some NGs
and even if you just snip it it is a sort of personal offense as
well
you are an animal that has no respect to anything !!not only tome
personally

Y.P
-------------------------

eric gisse

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:31:51 PM11/10/09
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Y.Porat wrote:
[blah blah blah]

> first of a;; i can say
> wHat is it YOUR FUCKEN BUSINESS??!!

It became my business around the time you posted a long whine thread on a
public forum.

Once you send a book out, it isn't yours anymore. Copyright doesn't mean you
can tell people what they can do with it. Doctrine of first sale, and all
that.

[...blah blah blah]

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