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Re: Why against Stern-Gerlach experiment photons are said to be spin 1?

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Y.Porat

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Nov 20, 2009, 3:03:08 AM11/20/09
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On Nov 19, 10:58 pm, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> In article <a6ba690b-ab7f-4d69-a946-24718b0f4e76@
> 37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, y.y.po...@gmail.com says...
>
> > Pigy
>
> Ah, a new nickname from the homo homophobe stalker.
>
> > what was your previous name
>
> Erasamus Danilhof.
>
> > and what will  be soon your new name ??
>
> I was thinking of calling myself Y Porat, but then I realised I could
> never make crazy enough posts to carry it off.
>
> Why are you obsessed about names? Is it, (cue sharp intake of breath) a
> pathetic attempt to distract from your nonsense and the hard questions
> you've avoided?
>
> Heaven forbid....
>
> > you dont have a respect even to  youself
>
> You have no idea how much self respect I have.
>
> > socertainly most people here  piss on you
>
> Look, I am as broadminded as the next person but this little fetish of
> yours is really something better kept personal. If you really need a
> fix, fire up your P2P software and download some 90s German p0rn
> (Uromania would float your boat...)
>
> I am sure most people here dont have your water sports fetish.
>
> > 2
> > who is the idiot that is paying your salary as gangster
>
> You are. Seriously, do you have a reading comprehension issue?
>
> > it cant be me becuse i live fortunately in another country than you
>
> What country do you think I live in? As a clue, you will be wrong.
>
> > any way
> > even that idiot is going to  realize very soon
> > that he is wasting his money on you
>
> I doubt it. Very soon it will be realised I am worth a lot more and will
> get a suitable rise. Trust me on this.
>
> > may be you live on your wife s    money ?? (:-)
>
> No, she earns enough to contribute to our joint household. Thanks for
> asking and it is comical that you live in the dark ages, apparently
> thinking that there is something to be ashamed of if my wife was the
> larger earner in our family.
>
> You are homo-homophobic and sexist. Well done.
>
> > only God   knows how  is she making her money (:-)
>
> Really? I think her accountants know as well. Oh, I get it. This is some
> childish attempt to imply she is a prostitute. Wow, Wiley Poohrat you
> really have got your mind in the gutter. Shame on you for being a
> pathetic dirty old pervert.
>
> The comical thing is my wife earns more than you and is a better
> scientist. She would pity you if she met you.
>
> Now, go back to your little stalker fantasy about young boys and water
> sports. You are revolting.

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i have a little tp people whouse a nick name thoughi dont admire their
integrity there fore their physics judgment
a decent scientist
will ahve no problem to come here with his real name
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i have much more against
PROFESSIONAL CROOKS
THAT CHANGE HEIR NAME AGAIN AND AGAIN
that is a mathemetical proof
of someone that is a crook
withpersonal politics motivation
such a fucker gangster will never contribute
anything new to science
if you what to do on living withyour
Higgs Boson theories wellcome
3
by disturbing here creative people
you and others like you

WILL TURN THIS NG TO A DESERT !!! (of little parrots
4
you cant cheat evry body
forever !!
by that behavior you will never be able to be proud of yourself
unless you are a psychopath

just keep it in your psychopathic
distorted mind

Y.P
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Jarek Duda

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Nov 20, 2009, 3:10:44 AM11/20/09
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> Spin is a misused term. Rotation is right. What wave of the two waves
> in light; the E and M; is the photon in?

Yes - rotation of quantum phase around spin axis - its what spin is -
topological singularity.
Charge is also topological singularity but of different type - Gauss
law allows to count then number of practically point-like charges (e)
inside some volume.
Photons can be traveling clockwise/anticlockwise twist-like wave - but
its angular momentum not spin.

Y.Porat

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:46:49 AM11/20/09
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right!!
but i dont agree with your assertion that
say the electron is a point particle
(if that is waht you said )
because a point has no specific directions
while the lectron does
the ver fact that it has 'spin'
is a prove for it
(SINCE WE ALL AGREED THAT
SPIN IS NOT SOMETHING LIKE
A GYROSCOPE !!)
IE
sin is specific dieaction orientated
so
it is very important to understand
and internalize its application meanings

ATB
Y.Porat
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BURT

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Nov 20, 2009, 8:20:42 PM11/20/09
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Point particles do not rotate. Spin is misused for rotation. Point
particles in math can have no orientation of rotation or rotation
speed.

Mitch Raemsch

Jarek Duda

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:38:21 PM11/22/09
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Tom, You are right - I've omitted charge in formula for quantum phase
change ...
.. but still quantum phase makes topological singularity around the
spin axis - it's not like earth's rotation which is angular momentum.
What quantum phase makes around spin axis is:
http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/SeparationOfTopologicalSingularities/
How to translate this phase change along a loop around the axis into
electromagnetic field?
While taking limit of charges going to zero, we see that
electromagnetic four-potential should go to infinity...

And I completely agree that spin cannot be just pointlike - in the
center cannot be chosen any phase - it should somehow deform in
continuous way to be able to finally forget about directions in the
center.
In my paper it's made by ellipse field mechanism - they prefer some
shape (radiuses), but are able to deform finally into circle to not
emphasize any direction in the center. This enforced deformation cost
some energy - giving them mass (see fig. 8 in the paper)

Y.Porat

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:43:54 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 23, 5:03 pm, Igor <thoov...@excite.com> wrote:
> On Nov 19, 4:30 pm, Jarek Duda <duda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I never said it was.  I said you needed both in order to have a
> > > magnetic dipole moment.
>
> > So what about neutrino?
>
> According to the Standard Model, the neutrino is a fundamental
> chargeless particle, so it should not have a magnetic dipole moment.
> If it ever was discovered that the neutrino has a finite magnetic
> dipole moment, it would be back to the drawing board.

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and you Igor forgot to tell us
that a very long time

the neutrino was considered massless (as your brain)
but only much later the glassless --

became massive!!

the fact that some mass is hard to detect
doe snot mean it doe snot exist
it is just out fault not to be able to find it
but there is a new golden rule in physics
that should be a light tower:

NO MASS - NO REAL PHYSICS !!
one day
even a block head like you will get it
(or may be even discover it himself ?? (:-)
and only while it wil be discovered by a dumb mathematician like you
(only you !!).. only then
you will come out trumpeting it out (:-)

Y.Porat
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Igor

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:15:00 PM11/24/09
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I think all that doe snot is clogging up the logical receptors in your
brain.

BURT

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:05:57 PM11/24/09
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> brain.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Spin is a mistake. Rotation is more appropriate usage. Spin is when
rotation speed changes sizes.
The skater pulling in her arms. Spin is in the aether as this.

Mitch Raemsch

Darwin123

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:51:49 PM11/24/09
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Doe snot? You mean "Does Not"? Or "Doh! Nut!"

Igor

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:05:10 PM11/25/09
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You are the master of nonsensical jibberish.

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