Is this an Atheist convention?

[The Starmaker]

Is this an Atheist convention?

Hawkings quotes from Augustine, and the audience laughs. (the audience must be all dummies if they didn't know he is quoting Augustine)

“What was God doing before the divine creation? Was he preparing hell for people who asked such questions?”

http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/17/17797756-stephen-hawking-lays-out-case-for-big-bang-without-god?lite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqG33AOG97w



Big Bang without God, ...where have I heard this before? Is this a re-run?


Stephen Hawkings *still* believes in God, doesn't he? He cannot get that Guy out-of-his-mind.



The Starmaker


Why do you think God put him in that wheel chair? There is a reason, did you know that?? It's where he belongs..people
like him all they do is build atomic bombs.

According to him, you got a thousand years to live.

[bil...@microsoft.com]

>Big Bang without God, ...where have I heard this before? Is this a re-run?

>Stephen Hawkings *still* believes in God, doesn't he? He cannot get that Guy out-of-his-mind.

No I dont think he does
Dumbmass...

>Why do you think God put him in that wheel chair? There is a reason, did you know that?? It's where he belongs..people
>like him all they do is build atomic bombs.

So So lame. God did not put him in a wheel chair. only a god fearing
fool would ever say something as freakin mean hateful and just plain
stupid as that. Ya know if you actually believed in a god and the
values that your god stood for you would not ever say something like
that, unless of course your god was a mean hateful vengeful prejudiced
dumbass. Oh wait let me gues you are your own god
Dumbass...

>According to him, you got a thousand years to live.

I dont think he ever said anything like that
Dumbass...

[The Starmaker]

It's right there...dummie...estupido, imbelcile! (probably another atheist)

“I don’t think we will survive another thousand years without escaping our fragile planet.”

http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/17/17797756-stephen-hawking-lays-out-case-for-big-bang-without-god?lite

[The Starmaker]

[Martin]

On 18/04/2013 19:16, The Starmaker wrote:
> Is this an Atheist convention?
>
> Hawkings quotes from Augustine, and the audience laughs.

Who is Hawkings?

[The Starmaker]

He is the Oral Roberts, The Robert Shuller, The Pope of Atheist!

[bil...@microsoft.com]

>> >According to him, you got a thousand years to live.


>>
>> I dont think he ever said anything like that
>> Dumbass...
>
>
>It's right there...dummie...estupido, imbelcile! (probably another atheist)
>

>�I don�t think we will survive another thousand years without escaping our fragile planet.�

We as in the human race, not you as in a single person and I dont give
it 1000 I give it 2 or 3 more centuries and humans will start dying
out in mass.
and no I am not an atheist I am an anti-theist you believe in your god
wage your wars kill your innocent people and I will sit back and laugh
at how much of a hipocrit and a liar you are
Dumbass...

[Martin]

Strange, you'd think everyone would have heard of him in that case

[Virgil]

In article <51706F...@ix.netcom.com>,

He is much better known for his cosmology than for his atheism.
--

[Absolutely Vertical]

i don't know any well-known cosmologist named hawkings.

[Absolutely Vertical]

maybe he was thinking of eisenstein or knewton or marxwell or fineman.

[The Starmaker]

Well look at the Headline: Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God

http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/17/17797756-stephen-hawking-lays-out-case-for-big-bang-without-god?lite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqG33AOG97w


Is that about cosmology or about atheism?


His introduction is about atheism

“What was God doing before the divine creation? Was he preparing hell for people who asked such questions?”

Why does he want to know what God was doing before the divine creation? That's a stupid question. God was watching TV!!!!
I'm guessing he got bored with what they were showing on TV.

Now he can watch American Idol!

Download movies...

Come on already, He was simply bored!


The Starmaker



He probably had only one channel on Tv...

Now he's got cable!



You're on TV, get it?

[suzeeq]

Stephen Hawkings...

[Dakota]

On 4/18/2013 6:58 PM, suzeeq wrote:
> Martin wrote:
>>
>> On 18/04/2013 23:09, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Martin wrote:
>>>> On 18/04/2013 19:16, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Is this an Atheist convention?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hawkings quotes from Augustine, and the audience laughs.
>>>> Who is Hawkings?
>>>
>>> He is the Oral Roberts, The Robert Shuller, The Pope of Atheist!
>>
>> Strange, you'd think everyone would have heard of him in that case
>
> Stephen Hawkings...

The eminent scientist's name is Stephen Hawking. There is no 's' at
the end.

[linuxgal]

Dakota wrote:
> The eminent scientist's name is Stephen Hawking. There is no 's' at the
> end.

Multiple Stephen Hawkings would be Hawkii.

--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0

[kni...@baawa.com]

On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 17:58:20 -0600, suzeeq <su...@imbris.com> wrote:

>Martin wrote:
>>
>> On 18/04/2013 23:09, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Martin wrote:
>>>> On 18/04/2013 19:16, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Is this an Atheist convention?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hawkings quotes from Augustine, and the audience laughs.
>>>> Who is Hawkings?
>>>
>>> He is the Oral Roberts, The Robert Shuller, The Pope of Atheist!
>>
>> Strange, you'd think everyone would have heard of him in that case
>
>Stephen Hawkings...

His argument is now invalid.

Warlord Steve
BAAWA

[xxein]

On Apr 18, 2:16 pm, The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Is this an Atheist convention?
>
> Hawkings quotes from Augustine, and the audience laughs. (the audience must be all dummies if they didn't know he is quoting Augustine)
>
> “What was God doing before the divine creation? Was he preparing hell for people who asked such questions?”
>

> http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/17/17797756-stephen-hawking-...

>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqG33AOG97w
>
> Big Bang without God, ...where have I heard this before? Is this a re-run?
>
> Stephen Hawkings *still* believes in God, doesn't he? He cannot get that Guy out-of-his-mind.
>
> The Starmaker
>
> Why do you think God put him in that wheel chair? There is a reason, did you know that?? It's where he belongs..people
> like him all they do is build atomic bombs.
>
> According to him, you got a thousand years to live.

xxein: Do you promote a God or deny such an existence? I don't
really care about your personal beliefs but what taints them?

And now I see you in your final ignorance. Play in your mud. I don't
care except that you are trying to poison the minds of others. You
are a wannabe Hitler.

[Mahipal]

On Apr 18, 6:39 pm, Absolutely Vertical <absolutelyverti...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 4/18/2013 5:37 PM, Absolutely Vertical wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 4/18/2013 5:34 PM, Virgil wrote:

> >> In article <51706F21.5...@ix.netcom.com>,

> >>   The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Martin wrote:
>
> >>>> On 18/04/2013 19:16, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> Is this an Atheist convention?
>
> >>>>> Hawkings quotes from Augustine, and the audience laughs.
>
> >>>> Who is Hawkings?
>
> >>> He is the Oral Roberts, The Robert Shuller, The Pope of Atheist!
>
> >> He is much better known for his cosmology than for his atheism.
>
> > i don't know any well-known cosmologist named hawkings.
>
> maybe he was thinking of eisenstein or knewton or marxwell or fineman.

Speaking of Miss Spellings... where's her thong up now?!

-- Mahipal

[SkyEyes]

Maybe, but his name is "Hawking," no "s" on the end, dumbass. I think
you're probably conflating the name with that of Richard Dawkins, the
*other* Pope of Atheists.

--
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
--

[Martin]

On 19/04/2013 00:58, suzeeq wrote:
> Martin wrote:
>>
>> On 18/04/2013 23:09, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Martin wrote:
>>>> On 18/04/2013 19:16, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Is this an Atheist convention?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hawkings quotes from Augustine, and the audience laughs.
>>>> Who is Hawkings?
>>>
>>> He is the Oral Roberts, The Robert Shuller, The Pope of Atheist!
>>
>> Strange, you'd think everyone would have heard of him in that case
>
> Stephen Hawkings...

Still never heard of him. Who is he?

[Martin]

On 19/04/2013 00:26, The Starmaker wrote:
> Virgil wrote:
>>
>> In article <51706F...@ix.netcom.com>,
>> The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Martin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 18/04/2013 19:16, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Is this an Atheist convention?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hawkings quotes from Augustine, and the audience laughs.
>>>>
>>>> Who is Hawkings?
>>>
>>>
>>> He is the Oral Roberts, The Robert Shuller, The Pope of Atheist!
>>
>> He is much better known for his cosmology than for his atheism.
>> --
>>
>>
>
>
> Well look at the Headline: Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God

What's that got to do with Stephen Hawkings who you were talking about
^up there^ ?

>
> http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/17/17797756-stephen-hawking-lays-out-case-for-big-bang-without-god?lite
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqG33AOG97w
>
>
> Is that about cosmology or about atheism?
>
>
> His introduction is about atheism
>

> �What was God doing before the divine creation? Was he preparing hell for people who asked such questions?�

[Les]

On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 11:16:28 -0700, The Starmaker
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Is this an Atheist convention?

If the answer was no would you consider it good or bad?

>
>Hawkings quotes from Augustine, and the audience laughs. (the audience must be all dummies if they didn't know he is quoting Augustine)


>“What was God doing before the divine creation? Was he preparing hell for people who asked such questions?”
>
>http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/17/17797756-stephen-hawking-lays-out-case-for-big-bang-without-god?lite
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqG33AOG97w
>
>
>
>Big Bang without God, ...where have I heard this before? Is this a re-run?

Well I do not recall Fred Hoyle mentioning a god when he coined this
comical phrase. (but then he was a detractor of the theory)

>Stephen Hawkings *still* believes in God, doesn't he? He cannot get that Guy out-of-his-mind.

Are you sure it is not the* notion* there is such a thing as god that
he is concerned with?

We know this notion exists indeed there are thousands of such notions
all like 'my father house with many rooms' all looking alike with many
twisty passages.

>Why do you think God put him in that wheel chair?

I think no such thing.

> There is a reason, did you know that?? It's where he belongs..people
>like him all they do is build atomic bombs.

Well we have already placed Hawkins on the list of great Britons
alongside Shakespeare, Darwin, Newton and Adam Smith but whether he
will be interned in Westminster Abbey alongside such greats as
Darwin we will have to wait and see.

i guess he will end up pictured on our bank notes which would
be nice.

>According to him, you got a thousand years to live.

--
Les Hellawell
Greeting from:
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County

"When you are in a crowd and you stand out from the
crowd it's ususually because you are being carried on
the shoulders of others."
- Desmond Tutu

[Ben Kaufman]

For some, it's hard to breathe and type at the same time.

[raven1]

On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 11:16:28 -0700, The Starmaker
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Stephen Hawkings *still* believes in God, doesn't he?

No, and he's expressed that quite clearly. BTW, his name is "Hawking".
No "s".

[suzeeq]

Stephen Hawking with an S on the end that shouldn't be there... Sorry.

[Uncle Vic]

linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote in
news:aNadnWYAEunNOu3M...@giganews.com:

> Dakota wrote:
>> The eminent scientist's name is Stephen Hawking. There is no 's' at the
>> end.
>
> Multiple Stephen Hawkings would be Hawkii.
>

Hawkii Pearce?

--
Uncle Vic
aa# 2011
BAAWA

AA Quotemeister

Visit my You Tube Channel!
http://www.youtube.com/user/Vicman6311?feature=mhee

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:00:48 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:

>linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote in
>news:aNadnWYAEunNOu3M...@giganews.com:
>
>> Dakota wrote:
>>> The eminent scientist's name is Stephen Hawking. There is no 's' at the
>>> end.
>>
>> Multiple Stephen Hawkings would be Hawkii.
>>
>
>Hawkii Pearce?

Aye, aye, Jim Lad.

[Dakota]

His name is Hawking. There is no final 's'.

[Puppet_Sock]

On Apr 18, 10:09 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> Dakota wrote:
> > The eminent scientist's name is Stephen Hawking. There is no 's' at the
> > end.
>
> Multiple Stephen Hawkings would be Hawkii.

Or possibly Hawkim if it's a Jewish audience.

And when you look at the original Klingon,
it's Hawkingpu' for many Hawking, or
Hawkingmey for Hawkings strewn about.

[The Starmaker]

Martin wrote:
>
> On 19/04/2013 00:26, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Virgil wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <51706F...@ix.netcom.com>,
> >> The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Martin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 18/04/2013 19:16, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>> Is this an Atheist convention?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hawkings quotes from Augustine, and the audience laughs.
> >>>>
> >>>> Who is Hawkings?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> He is the Oral Roberts, The Robert Shuller, The Pope of Atheist!
> >>
> >> He is much better known for his cosmology than for his atheism.
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Well look at the Headline: Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God
>
> What's that got to do with Stephen Hawkings who you were talking about
> ^up there^ ?

This is Augustine:
http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1427207-confessiones
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo

and this is Stephen Hawking
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_waHqo7COehs/TPwpBpIsBxI/AAAAAAAAHJk/KCFRfXDFaco/s1600/the-grand-design.jpg

What's the problem here?

>
> >
> > http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/17/17797756-stephen-hawking-lays-out-case-for-big-bang-without-god?lite
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqG33AOG97w
> >
> >
> > Is that about cosmology or about atheism?
> >
> >
> > His introduction is about atheism
> >

> > “What was God doing before the divine creation? Was he preparing hell for people who asked such questions?”

[The Starmaker]

raven1 wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 11:16:28 -0700, The Starmaker
> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >Stephen Hawkings *still* believes in God, doesn't he?
>
> No, and he's expressed that quite clearly.

He's lying. He cannot stop talking and thinking about God.

There is no such thing as an athiest, ..there are only people *claiming*
to be atheist.

But deep down inside....they cannot get God out of their hearts.

They are at war with themselves.

Have you notice, atheist don't mention...The Devil? Cause atheist want
to go to Heaven.


Who wants to go to Hell?

[Martin]

On 19/04/2013 18:14, The Starmaker wrote:
> Martin wrote:
>>
>> On 19/04/2013 00:26, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Virgil wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In article <51706F...@ix.netcom.com>,
>>>> The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Martin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/04/2013 19:16, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> Is this an Atheist convention?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hawkings quotes from Augustine, and the audience laughs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who is Hawkings?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> He is the Oral Roberts, The Robert Shuller, The Pope of Atheist!
>>>>
>>>> He is much better known for his cosmology than for his atheism.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well look at the Headline: Stephen Hawking lays out case for Big Bang without God
>>
>> What's that got to do with Stephen Hawkings who you were talking about
>> ^up there^ ?
>
>
> This is Augustine:
> http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1427207-confessiones
> http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo
>
> and this is Stephen Hawking
> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_waHqo7COehs/TPwpBpIsBxI/AAAAAAAAHJk/KCFRfXDFaco/s1600/the-grand-design.jpg
>
> What's the problem here?

You were talking about Stephen Hawkings, as I said I have no idea who
that is. Then suddenly with no explanation you start talking about a
different chap called Stephen Hawking, I've heard of him (obviously) but
don't know what he has to do with the bloke ^up there^.

Is it REALLY so hard to comprehend?

[raven1]

On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:24:43 -0700, The Starmaker

<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>raven1 wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 11:16:28 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Stephen Hawkings *still* believes in God, doesn't he?
>>
>> No, and he's expressed that quite clearly.
>
>He's lying. He cannot stop talking and thinking about God.
>
>There is no such thing as an athiest, ..there are only people *claiming*
>to be atheist.

Oh my, you're one of those theists who are so terrified that we're
right that you have to try to convince yourself that we're just
pretending to not believe in your silly Bronze Age myth. How amusing.

[suzeeq]

Hawkings was a misspelling, I think they were talking about Stephen
Hawking who is supposedly an atheist. Or not. Many scientists are theists.

[Free Lunch]

On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:52:13 -0600, suzeeq <su...@imbris.com> wrote in
alt.atheism:

When you are engaged in science, religion does not matter. If your
religion does matter, you have abandoned science.

[The Starmaker]

raven1 wrote:
>
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:24:43 -0700, The Starmaker
> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >raven1 wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 11:16:28 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Stephen Hawkings *still* believes in God, doesn't he?
> >>
> >> No, and he's expressed that quite clearly.
> >
> >He's lying. He cannot stop talking and thinking about God.
> >
> >There is no such thing as an athiest, ..there are only people *claiming*
> >to be atheist.
>
> Oh my,

Weren't you're about to say..."Oh my God"? No one says "Oh my," anymore...

You got to let that "God" out. You cannot hide...everyone here can see the God inside you
burning to get out from within.

Try, "OH MY GAWD"...it doesn't matter...we all know deep down inside you're Love God.


God be with you, my child.

God lives inside you. God lives inside of us all.

You have eternal life.

You will live forever.



The Starmaker

[The Starmaker]

This is all about one letter 's'???

Hawkings, Dawkings, Schmawkings, what difference does it make????

[Martin]

If you're going to talk bull-shit about someone the very least you can
do is to get their fucking name right. Especially when it's the one
scientist everyone in the bloody world has heard of.

It might not make any difference to you, but if you're doctor didn't
prescribe you the right drug you'd fucking whinge

[raven1]

On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:10:42 -0700, The Starmaker

<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>raven1 wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:24:43 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> >raven1 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 11:16:28 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Stephen Hawkings *still* believes in God, doesn't he?
>> >>
>> >> No, and he's expressed that quite clearly.
>> >
>> >He's lying. He cannot stop talking and thinking about God.
>> >
>> >There is no such thing as an athiest, ..there are only people *claiming*
>> >to be atheist.
>>
>> Oh my,
>
>Weren't you're about to say..."Oh my God"? No one says "Oh my," anymore...

Seriously? Do you live in a cave, or have you really never heard of
George Takei...?


---
raven1
aa # 1096
EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
BAAWA Knight

[Syd M.]

Oh, good... Another theist liar.

PDW

[Syd M.]

My, how arrogant of you.

PDW

[The Starmaker]

You're want people to believe you're impersonating a chineese gay
guy????

[The Starmaker]

"My,"? Who says "My," anymore???

Where are all these God fearing atheist coming from????

[Bill Graham]

Have you heard of (Sir) Issac Newton? Well, Stephan Hawking has Newton's old
job......

[bil...@microsoft.com]

>>Stephen Hawkings *still* believes in God, doesn't he? He cannot get that Guy out-of-his-mind.
>
>Are you sure it is not the* notion* there is such a thing as god that
>he is concerned with?

why cant any of you realize that chances hawking never even said
anything like that. but maybe in fact it was a publicist. Just like
when it is said that leon lederman coined the phrase The God Particle
it was in fact his publisher that said it. Lederman actually said that
God damn particle.
but the real problem is the fact that the people who are complaining
ie. starmaker, are so offended because he is so afraid that his god
may not be real.

[bil...@microsoft.com]

>Have you notice, atheist don't mention...The Devil? Cause atheist want
>to go to Heaven.

No actually if you would use your brain.. If there is no god then
there is no devil. atheists dont talk about god either unluess queued
to do so

[bil...@microsoft.com]

>There is no such thing as an athiest, ..there are only people *claiming*
>to be atheist.
>

Yes there is such a thing but it is obvious that your simple mind and
one way thinking can not grasp the concept

[Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway]

"Bill Graham" wrote in message
news:XOidnbz0-vK1RezM...@giganews.com...

Have you heard of (Sir) Issac Newton?

===================================
No, but I have heard of Sir Isaac Newton.

Well, Stephan Hawking has Newton's old
job......

=====================================
Haven't heard of him either, did you mean Stephen Hawking?
In case you did, that idiot can't hold a candle to Newton.

-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway.
When the fools chicken farmer Wilson and Van de faggot present an argument I
cannot laugh at I'll retire from usenet.

[bil...@microsoft.com]

On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 15:38:25 -0700, The Starmaker
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


>Where are all these God fearing atheist coming from????

I dont have a fear of your god I have a fear of the people that
believe in a god. and use thier god to kill people and start wars ie.
WWII, The world trade centers, and now the boston bombings. and that
is just to name a few.

[bil...@microsoft.com]

>Oh, good... Another theist liar.

I know everyone loves to make the religous people look and feel
incredibly stupid but it is just sometimes best to ignore them. The
worst "sinners" and those that believe in a god

[Uncle Vic]

The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:5171C0...@ix.netcom.com:

Wow. The conversation evolved from Stephen Hawking to homosexuality in
five posts! Is that some kind of record?

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 19:27:48 -0500, bil...@microsoft.com wrote:

>
>>Oh, good... Another theist liar.
>
>
>
>I know everyone loves to make the religous people look and feel
>incredibly stupid

We don't need to, they do that themselves.

[raven1]

On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 15:08:18 -0700, The Starmaker

<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>raven1 wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:10:42 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> >raven1 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:24:43 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >raven1 wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 11:16:28 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >> >> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Stephen Hawkings *still* believes in God, doesn't he?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No, and he's expressed that quite clearly.
>> >> >
>> >> >He's lying. He cannot stop talking and thinking about God.
>> >> >
>> >> >There is no such thing as an athiest, ..there are only people *claiming*
>> >> >to be atheist.
>> >>
>> >> Oh my,
>> >
>> >Weren't you're about to say..."Oh my God"? No one says "Oh my," anymore...
>>
>> Seriously? Do you live in a cave, or have you really never heard of
>> George Takei...?
>

>You're want people to believe you're impersonating a chineese gay
>guy????

Oh, so you're also a racist and a homophobe? Color me shocked.

[Bill Graham]

That's because we have no ax to grind. If he doesn;t exist, then why bother
with him? That's like arguing over what Alice found at the bottom of the
rabbit hole. We have better things to do. Its the religious guys who make a
pain in the ass of themselves over it. They think they will get brownie
points for pestering the hell out of the rest of us.

[Bill Graham]

Funny.... I say the same thing about the religious. Surely they can't be
that stupid, to think that this whole universe, with more galaxies in it
than there are grains of sand on all the beaches on earth, was created by
some old guy up in the clouds who created man in his own image, and watches
over my bunk at night to make sure I get a good night's sleep! I mean....
Give me a break!

[Bill Graham]

Oh, I see. You are a typo debater. Well, I'm sorry, but at 77, I can't be
bothered with you, so you have to go into my kill file. I make too many
typo's to be able to handle your kind. I apologize, be3cause you might share
my general philosophy and I reallky hate to turn you off....

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <47q3n8h8po2d2tqb7...@4ax.com>,

And such a moron that he doesn't know the difference between Chinese and
Japanese.

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[benj]

On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 18:34:17 -0700, Bill Graham wrote:

> Oh, I see. You are a typo debater. Well, I'm sorry, but at 77, I can't
> be bothered with you, so you have to go into my kill file. I make too
> many typo's to be able to handle your kind. I apologize, be3cause you
> might share my general philosophy and I reallky hate to turn you off....

Andro "might" share your philosophy? At 77 you can't really be THAT
stooopid, can you? You have Andro right where he belongs!

[Olrik]

Well, to its credit, it did *not* hide its religiosity.

> ---
> raven1
> aa # 1096
> EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
> BAAWA Knight
>

--
Olrik
aa #1981
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division

[SkyEyes]

On Apr 19, 10:24 am, The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> raven1 wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 11:16:28 -0700, The Starmaker
> > <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > >Stephen Hawkings *still* believes in God, doesn't he?
>
> > No, and he's expressed that quite clearly.
>
> He's lying. He cannot stop talking and thinking about God.
>
> There is no such thing as an athiest, ..there are only people *claiming*
> to be atheist.
>

> But deep down inside....they cannot get God out of their hearts.
>
> They are at war with themselves.
>

> Have you notice, atheist don't mention...The Devil? Cause atheist want
> to go to Heaven.
>

> Who wants to go to Hell?

There's as much evidence for consciousness persisting after death as
there is for a god, i.e., none at all. There's only the mind, which
is the product of the brain. When the brain is ill or injured, the
personality changes. When the brain dies, consciousness winks out.
No heaven. No hell. Just oblivion, which is nothing to be afraid of.

There is no evidence of either a god or a devil. The reason we don't
mention the devil is that is, essentially, just another god: a being
of begotten of fantasy and ignorance, banished by the bright light of
reason.

--
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
--

[SkyEyes]

Takei is Japanese, not Chinese. That's three things you've gotten
horrifically wrong in this thread. How many more things are your
horribly wrong about?

[Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway]

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Equations and Names.
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[benj]

On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 23:04:24 -0700, SkyEyes wrote:

>> Who wants to go to Hell?

Obviously this does not scare atheists.

> There's as much evidence for consciousness persisting after death as
> there is for a god, i.e., none at all. There's only the mind, which is
> the product of the brain. When the brain is ill or injured, the
> personality changes. When the brain dies, consciousness winks out. No
> heaven. No hell. Just oblivion, which is nothing to be afraid of.

See? I told you so. The only problem is that while the above is an
excellent synopsis of the beliefs of Social Darwinism, it's nothing but
imaginative assertion with no effort to examine any evidence suggestive
of other ideas. In other words the above is nothing but religious belief
presented as such. It's true because the faithful SAY it is true.

> There is no evidence of either a god or a devil. The reason we don't
> mention the devil is that is, essentially, just another god: a being of
> begotten of fantasy and ignorance, banished by the bright light of
> reason.

Obviously your assertion of "no evidence" is clearly based on ignorance
either natural or chosen. Of course, you expect me to assert the polar
opposite to your faith, but in science that isn't how it works.

To say that there is "no" evidence of the persistence of consciousness
after death or for functions of mind beyond those of the brain is simply
a statement that you have no knowledge of what has been studied in these
matters. There is much evidence that has been accumulated and developed
that provide strong suggestions that your simplistic views are dead wrong
even if politically correct in certain circles.

The fact that this body of evidence has not established credibility for
OTHER religious theories does not discredit the observations. It only
discredits your assumptions.

Attempting to prove a negative with mere bluster and personal assertion
is hardly convincing debate.

[casey]

On 19 Apr, 23:04, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
> [...]

> There's as much evidence for consciousness persisting after death as
> there is for a god, i.e., none at all.  There's only the mind, which
> is the product of the brain.  When the brain is ill or injured, the
> personality changes.  When the brain dies, consciousness winks out.
> No heaven.  No hell.  Just oblivion, which is nothing to be afraid of.

And yet when your brain developed your consciousness winked in?

If it can wink in once why can't it wink in again?

[linuxgal]

bil...@microsoft.com wrote:
> but the real problem is the fact that the people who are complaining
> ie. starmaker, are so offended because he is so afraid that his god
> may not be real.

They are literally afraid of nothing.

--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0

[raven1]

I'm sure he's scratching his head over that...

[Mason Barge]

On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 08:06:22 +0100, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of

Better a type than someone who can't quote and post normally.

[Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway]

"Mason Barge" wrote in message
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[The Starmaker]

SkyEyes wrote:
>
> On Apr 19, 10:24 am, The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > raven1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 11:16:28 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >Stephen Hawkings *still* believes in God, doesn't he?
> >
> > > No, and he's expressed that quite clearly.
> >
> > He's lying. He cannot stop talking and thinking about God.
> >
> > There is no such thing as an athiest, ..there are only people *claiming*
> > to be atheist.
> >
> > But deep down inside....they cannot get God out of their hearts.
> >
> > They are at war with themselves.
> >
> > Have you notice, atheist don't mention...The Devil? Cause atheist want
> > to go to Heaven.
> >
> > Who wants to go to Hell?
>
> There's as much evidence for consciousness persisting after death as
> there is for a god, i.e., none at all. There's only the mind, which
> is the product of the brain. When the brain is ill or injured, the
> personality changes. When the brain dies, consciousness winks out.
> No heaven. No hell. Just oblivion, which is nothing to be afraid of.
>
> There is no evidence of either a god or a devil.

Of course there is evidence of a god and a devil. God is positive, the Devil is negative. Plus, Minus. +, -. Good, Evil.

You might as well just say there is no evidence of positive and negative.

Every person born is incorporated a positive and a negative. The positive is on one side, the negative is on the other.
The good is on one side, the bad is on the other.
God is on your right side, and the devil is on your left side.
Your right side is your positive side. Your left side is your negative side.
There is only Love and Hate, there is no inbetween.

There is only a positive charge and a negative charge.

If you're looking for evidence of God, you need to look inside you.


(on the right side)

no, no, no, no...a little bit more to the left...that's it.

It's very simple...God is good.


The Starmaker

> The reason we don't
> mention the devil is that is, essentially, just another god: a being
> of begotten of fantasy and ignorance, banished by the bright light of
> reason.

banished? He's on your left side!


Take a look in the mirror. The evidence is there. Which is your pretty side.....Brenda?

[The Starmaker]

Did I write it down wrong? Okay, I'm talking about 'the people with the slanted eyes'...in this case he's gay also, probably a genetic defect.

[The Starmaker]

linuxgal wrote:
>
> bil...@microsoft.com wrote:
> > but the real problem is the fact that the people who are complaining
> > ie. starmaker, are so offended because he is so afraid that his god
> > may not be real.
>
> They are literally afraid of nothing.

where everything is supposely suppose to come from...

[raven1]

On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 11:44:38 -0700, The Starmaker

*Yawn*. Go away, child.

<plonk>

[The Starmaker]

bil...@microsoft.com wrote:
>
> >Have you notice, atheist don't mention...The Devil? Cause atheist want
> >to go to Heaven.
>

> No actually if you would use your brain.. If there is no god then
> there is no devil. atheists dont talk about god either unluess queued
> to do so

If there is

no god no devil
then there is
no good or evil
no positive or negative
no right or wrong
no plus or minus
no + or -
no good or bad
no love or hate

God is not bad. God is not evil. God is not negative. God is not wrong.


God is good.
God is positive.
God is Love.


The Starmaker

[Free Lunch]

On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 12:01:56 -0700, The Starmaker
<star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in alt.atheism:

>bil...@microsoft.com wrote:
>>
>> >Have you notice, atheist don't mention...The Devil? Cause atheist want
>> >to go to Heaven.
>>
>> No actually if you would use your brain.. If there is no god then
>> there is no devil. atheists dont talk about god either unluess queued
>> to do so
>
>If there is
> no god no devil
>then there is
>no good or evil

So you claim. Please support your assertion.

[The Starmaker]

_.-._ ..-.. _.-._
(_-.-_) /|'.'|\ (_'.'_)
.\-/. \)\-/(/ ,-.-.
__/ /-. \__ __/ ' ' \__ __/'-'-'\__
( (___/___) ) ( (_/-._\_) ) ( (_/ \_) )
'.Oo___oO.' '.Oo___oO.' '.Oo___oO.'

see no evil hear no evil talk no evil

[bil...@microsoft.com]

>If there is
> no god no devil
>then there is
>no good or evil
>no positive or negative
>no right or wrong
>no plus or minus
>no + or -

Your god is not an eletric charge

>God is not bad. God is not evil. God is not negative. God is not wrong.

Yes your god is mean bad hateful yada yada
I have already said this but I will say it again. any entity that
would allow others to kill torture murder and mame in its name is all
those things.. IE. almost every war every suicide bomber you fill in
the rest.

>God is good.
>God is positive.
>God is Love.

How so?
dude you are a scared dumbass.

[Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess]

On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 11:16:28 -0700

The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Is this an Atheist convention?

No. This is the "alt.atheism" newsgroup.

> Hawkings quotes from Augustine, and the audience laughs. (the
> audience must be all dummies if they didn't know he is quoting
> Augustine)

That's a fallacious ad hominem attack against the audience, unless the
audience was supposed to have a minimum set of scholarly qualifications
of some sort (please clarify if that's the case).

Who is "Hawkings?" (Please clarify.)

> “What was God doing before the divine creation? Was he preparing hell
> for people who asked such questions?”

What divine creation are you referring to? As far as I'm aware, there
aren't any.

> http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/17/17797756-stephen-hawking-lays-out-case-for-big-bang-without-god?lite
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqG33AOG97w
>
> Big Bang without God, ...where have I heard this before? Is this a
> re-run?

Science class in elementary school? That's one place where most people
hear about it at least once in their lives in most technologically
advanced modern civilizations that value education and freedom.

> Stephen Hawkings *still* believes in God, doesn't he? He cannot get
> that Guy out-of-his-mind.

Who is "Stephen Hawkings?" (He's obviously not "Stephen Hawking,"
clearly an atheist, who you mentioned earlier.)

> The Starmaker
>
> Why do you think God put him in that wheel chair? There is a reason,
> did you know that?? It's where he belongs..people like him all they
> do is build atomic bombs.

Who is "The Starmaker?" (Please clarify.)

If a deity permanently confines any able-to-walk person into a
wheelchair without their consent, then that deity is cruel and
oppressive.

Are you implying that those who engage in the activity of "building
atomic bombs" are malevolent? (My own anecdotal experience with people
who work with this type of technology is that they're not malevolent.)

> According to him, you got a thousand years to live.

Are you repeating something that "The Starmaker" suggested?

--
Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
"This year? A factory of semiconductors. Next year? A factory of
whole conductors!"
-- Todor Zhivkov

[Steve O]

On 20/04/2013 20:01, The Starmaker wrote:
> bil...@microsoft.com wrote:
>>
>>> Have you notice, atheist don't mention...The Devil? Cause atheist want
>>> to go to Heaven.
>>
>> No actually if you would use your brain.. If there is no god then
>> there is no devil. atheists dont talk about god either unluess queued
>> to do so
>
> If there is
> no god no devil
> then there is
> no good or evil

Non sequiteur.
The rest fails.

[The Starmaker]

What does God have to do with religion?

[The Starmaker]

bil...@microsoft.com wrote:
>
> >There is no such thing as an athiest, ..there are only people *claiming*
> >to be atheist.
> >
>

> Yes there is such a thing

No, there is no such thing..


It's just self-hypnosis.

God lives inside us all, that includes atheist..

that includes Dolly Parton and idi amin.


The Starmaker

[linuxgal]

The Starmaker wrote:

> God lives inside us all, that includes atheist..
>
> that includes Dolly Parton

Plenty of room in THERE.

[The Starmaker]

bil...@microsoft.com wrote:
>
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 15:38:25 -0700, The Starmaker
> <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >Where are all these God fearing atheist coming from????
>
> I dont have a fear of your god I have a fear of the people that
> believe in a god. and use thier god to kill people and start wars ie.
> WWII, The world trade centers, and now the boston bombings. and that
> is just to name a few.


I know guys that use God to get into girls panties...I might have use that
technique a few times myself.

You should be more concern somebody using god to get into your sister panties.


In Israel, whenever they want to kill their neigbors women and children at lands
near them, they dig up Jesus Christs artifacts and say, "We found Jesus grave!"
Then they go about killing their neigbors.


Everyone uses God to get into girls panties. Whats wrong with that? I don't even think it's against the law.

And since God lives in us all, He is one of the guys pulling down your sister's panties.


I really think people don't understand God. He is not even that religious...


The Starmaker

[The Starmaker]

I don't how you people can tell the difference...
they all have slanted eyes!

Is it slanted a different way? Sorry, they don't tech this stuff in skool.

Is there a class people take that explains how to tell the difference?

There is this girl, chinese, japaneese, korean, I don't know which...
she wears a t-shirt that reads:

Why Are You Staring At Me?


The Starmaker


Does anyone know the answer to that question, or am I the only one as usual?

[linuxgal]

The Starmaker wrote:
> I know guys that use God to get into girls panties...I might have use that
> technique a few times myself.

Other guys just raid girls' panty drawers when they want to get into
girls' panties.

[William December Starr]

In article <5172E6...@ix.netcom.com>,

The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> said:

> God is not bad. God is not evil. God is not negative. God is not wrong.
>
> God is good.
> God is positive.
> God is Love.
> The Starmaker

If God allows you to exist, he can't be very good.

Now please go kill yourself. Thank you.

-- wds

[Tom McDonald]

On 4/21/2013 4:15 PM, linuxgal wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>> I know guys that use God to get into girls panties...I might have use
>> that
>> technique a few times myself.
>
> Other guys just raid girls' panty drawers when they want to get into
> girls' panties.
>

I just buy them myself...

erm., I have said too much...

[Dakota]

Biblegod admits that it created evil.

Isaiah 45:7 King James Version

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil:
I the Lord do all these things.

[Mitchell Holman]

linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote in news:74qdnVR_-pGP0-
nMnZ2dnUV...@giganews.com:

> The Starmaker wrote:
>
>> God lives inside us all, that includes atheist..
>>
>> that includes Dolly Parton
>
> Plenty of room in THERE.

"You have no idea how much
money it costs to look this cheap"

- Dolly Parton

[The Starmaker]

You're missing the whole thing.

God is good.
God is positive.

Devil is bad
Devil is negative.

That's two, count them, *two* different sides.

One side is good
the other side is bad.

God is on the good side! He's alllll goood!

I already pointed out, God lives in us all...
He just happens to live on one side only.

The good side!

The + side.

Is this for some reason not clear? I thought I made it simple to understand.



The Starmaker

[The Starmaker]

Someone asked a question and I seem to be the only one in the world with the answer...

A baby in Brazil is born with two heads. They usually remove one head...
The question they asked was:
"If both their brains are functioning, how are we going to choose which head to remove?"


The answer is simple! The head on the left side.


The Starmaker

[bil...@microsoft.com]

>You're missing the whole thing.

What you dont realize is that you are missing the whole thing

>God is good.
>God is positive.
>Devil is bad
>Devil is negative.

No god created evil
god created bad AND
god created the devil

>That's two, count them, *two* different sides.
>
>One side is good
>the other side is bad.

2+2=4
in other words according to your rules and standards your god is good
and evil
kinda hipocritical.. LOL does that sound famaliar? dude you are
digging yourself a hole deeper and deeper just give up while you have
a change You have Lost the God argument like 3243434y39 times already

[The Starmaker]

Where did you get this idea God created the Devil?


God is good. God was created Good.

[bil...@microsoft.com]

>> >One side is good
>> >the other side is bad.
>> 2+2=4
>> in other words according to your rules and standards your god is good
>> and evil
>> kinda hipocritical.. LOL does that sound famaliar? dude you are
>> digging yourself a hole deeper and deeper just give up while you have
>> a change You have Lost the God argument like 3243434y39 times already
>
>
>Where did you get this idea God created the Devil?
>
>
>God is good. God was created Good.

I said according to your rules or beliefs. kinda funny though when god
was crating the world in the old testamant your god never actuallly
created the devil. The devil only appears in the old testamant a few
times and mentioned heavily in the new testamant. but according to
your beliefs god created everything right? so I guess you can say that
you said that god created the devil. but according to my beliefs There
is no murdering hipoctirical lying higher power know to you as god, so
in fact there is no devil.

[bil...@microsoft.com]

uhh I did not say religon. but according to your beliefs god said you
were an idiot so deal with it

[SkyEyes]

Who created God, good or otherwise?

--
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
--

[The Starmaker]

SkyEyes wrote:
>
> On Apr 22, 3:19 pm, The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > bil...@microsoft.com wrote:
> >
> > > >You're missing the whole thing.
> > > What you dont realize is that you are missing the whole thing
> >
> > > >God is good.
> > > >God is positive.
> > > >Devil is bad
> > > >Devil is negative.
> >
> > > No god created evil
> > > god created bad AND
> > > god created the devil
> > > >That's two, count them, *two* different sides.
> >
> > > >One side is good
> > > >the other side is bad.
> > > 2+2=4
> > > in other words according to your rules and standards your god is good
> > > and evil
> > > kinda hipocritical.. LOL does that sound famaliar? dude you are
> > > digging yourself a hole deeper and deeper just give up while you have
> > > a change You have Lost the God argument like 3243434y39 times already
> >
> > Where did you get this idea God created the Devil?
> >
> > God is good. God was created Good.
>
> Who created God, good or otherwise?

What difference does it make who His parents are, Brennda? Do you go around asking your friends "Who Created You?"

[Bill Steele]

In article <517052...@ix.netcom.com>,
The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> bil...@microsoft.com wrote:
> >
> > >Big Bang without God, ...where have I heard this before? Is this a re-run?
> >

> > >Stephen Hawkings *still* believes in God, doesn't he? He cannot get that
> > >Guy out-of-his-mind.
> >

> > No I dont think he does
> > Dumbmass...

> >
> > >Why do you think God put him in that wheel chair? There is a reason, did
> > >you know that?? It's where he belongs..people
> > >like him all they do is build atomic bombs.

> > So So lame. God did not put him in a wheel chair. only a god fearing
> > fool would ever say something as freakin mean hateful and just plain
> > stupid as that. Ya know if you actually believed in a god and the
> > values that your god stood for you would not ever say something like
> > that, unless of course your god was a mean hateful vengeful prejudiced
> > dumbass. Oh wait let me gues you are your own god
> > Dumbass...

> > >According to him, you got a thousand years to live.
> >

> > I dont think he ever said anything like that
> > Dumbass...
>
>
> It's right there...dummie...estupido, imbelcile! (probably another atheist)
>
> �I don�t think we will survive another thousand years without escaping our
> fragile planet.�
>
> http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/17/17797756-stephen-hawking-lays-out-
> case-for-big-bang-without-god?lite

If we believed we had a thousand years to live we would stop destroying
the planet.

[SkyEyes]

Yes, it absolutely *does*. I know who created my friends - their
biological parents did.

You claim your god was created. I want to know who created him. Put
up or shut up.

And while you're at it, you can provide logical, objective, verifiable
evidence that this god of yours *actually exists*. Until and unless
you do that, you're just blowin' smoke.

[The Starmaker]

I don't understand the question! You know your friends were created by their biological parents, it's the same thing..
God was created by His biological parents. They brought up a nice good kid, what else can I say? Don't aks me what
high school he went to, please....i don't exactly keep track on everyone in the universe.

God lives in us all. You don't have to go too far to search for him, do you? He's right inside you. I already told
where to look...if you're looking for his exact location inside you...look in the mirror and look at the pretty side of you.

God is on the pretty side.

The good side.

You want to see God, look right in the mirror...you can dsraw a straight line down, ...He's on the pretty side.

I don't want to get on your bad side, Brennnda.


The Starmaker

[casey]

On 23 Apr, 13:00, The Starmaker <starma...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> [...]

> You want to see God, look right in the mirror...you can dsraw a straight line down, ...He's on the pretty side.

So in my case God is on both sides :)