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BURT

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Nov 19, 2009, 4:42:43 PM11/19/09
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I believe they are round. There are 4 fundamental sizes of the atom.
They can change when there is a quantum jump as in heating water or
light absorbtion for energy level transition. 4 electron shells mean 4
sizes of the atom. This is important.

Mitch Raemsch

Aleph

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Nov 19, 2009, 5:27:20 PM11/19/09
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In article <c74cb44e-7f11-43e0-99b5-ba1bca3b4465
@x25g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, macro...@yahoo.com says...

>
> I believe they are round. There are 4 fundamental sizes of the atom.

Wow. What are these sizes?

> They can change when there is a quantum jump as in heating water or
> light absorbtion for energy level transition. 4 electron shells mean 4
> sizes of the atom.

Amazing. Do you think that *every* atom has four electron shells? What
about subshells? How do you explain anything heavier than Krypton?

> This is important.

You conflate crazy with important.


PD

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:23:01 PM11/19/09
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Chapter 8 of any introductory chemistry book.

BURT

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:37:22 PM11/19/09
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No. Chapter * is different in every book because they are written by
different people.

Mitch Raemsch

Y.Porat

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Nov 20, 2009, 2:46:50 AM11/20/09
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a lot of fairy tales !!!
in aheavy Atom
there is no direct connection between
number of elctrons and Protons

some of the Protons lost their
electric charge
while making the inner nuc connections!!

in your fucking crippled models
there are no' inner' Protons and
peripheral -outer Protons
for you it is all one big mess
(of ignorance !!)
so you teach people your ignorance !!

Y.P
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Aleph

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Nov 20, 2009, 4:34:30 AM11/20/09
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In article <e5c9886a-6f71-4c72-934f-
089896...@u25g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Thu,
19 Nov 2009 16:37:22 -0800 (PST), BURT <macro...@yahoo.com> imparted
these words of wisdom:

How would you know? How many text books have you read in your life?

(based on your "four electron shells" idea, I'd suspect the answer is
indistinguishable from zero)

--
Aleph

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Aleph

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Nov 20, 2009, 4:48:14 AM11/20/09
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In article <2645b2dd-cb12-49ff-8c06-416f7b5bc243
@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Thu, 19 Nov 2009
23:46:50 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y....@gmail.com> imparted these words
of wisdom:

>
> On Nov 20, 2:23 am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Chapter 8 of any introductory chemistry book.
>
> -----------------
> a lot of fairy tales !!!
> in aheavy Atom
> there is no direct connection between
> number of elctrons and Protons

ROTFLMAO.

> some of the Protons lost their
> electric charge
> while making the inner nuc connections!!
>
> in your fucking crippled models
> there are no' inner' Protons and
> peripheral -outer Protons
> for you it is all one big mess
> (of ignorance !!)
> so you teach people your ignorance !!

You are priceless. You are so clueless you dont even come close to
realising how clueless you are.

Wonderful.

Inertial

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Nov 20, 2009, 4:29:29 AM11/20/09
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"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2645b2dd-cb12-49ff...@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...

> On Nov 20, 2:23 am, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 19, 3:42 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I believe they are round. There are 4 fundamental sizes of the atom.
>> > They can change when there is a quantum jump as in heating water or
>> > light absorbtion for energy level transition. 4 electron shells mean 4
>> > sizes of the atom. This is important.
>>
>> > Mitch Raemsch
>>
>> Chapter 8 of any introductory chemistry book.
>
> -----------------
> a lot of fairy tales !!!
> in aheavy Atom
> there is no direct connection between
> number of elctrons and Protons

So they have a new charge

> some of the Protons lost their
> electric charge
> while making the inner nuc connections!!

Then they aren't protons any more

> in your fucking crippled models
> there are no' inner' Protons and
> peripheral -outer Protons
> for you it is all one big mess
> (of ignorance !!)
> so you teach people your ignorance !!

The ignorant one here is you .. not us

Uncle Al

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Nov 20, 2009, 2:19:33 PM11/20/09
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BURT wrote:
>
> I believe they are round.
[snip crap]

The atom is flat and only 6000 years old.

> Mitch Raemsch

Hey stooopid Raemsch - hypo-orchidism plus hypospadias? How greatly
empowered you are to piss into your own eyes.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm

PD

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Nov 20, 2009, 2:44:22 PM11/20/09
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OK, then:
Chapter 5 in McMurry/Fay, Chemistry, 5e
Chapter 7 in Tro, Chemistry, 1e
Chapter 6 in Averill/Eldredge, Chemistry, 1e
Chapter 6 in Brown/LeMay/Bursten/Murphy/Woodward, Chemistry, 11e
Chapter 7 in Hill/Petrucci/McCreary/Perry, General Chemistry, 4e
Chapter 3 in McMurry/Fay, General Chemistry, 1e
Chapter 8 in Petrucci/Harwood/Herring/Madura, General Chemistry, 9e

BURT

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Nov 20, 2009, 2:54:44 PM11/20/09
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> Chapter 8 in Petrucci/Harwood/Herring/Madura, General Chemistry, 9e- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

The four sizes of the atom have not been properly recognised by
science.

Mitch Raemsch

PD

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Nov 20, 2009, 3:34:02 PM11/20/09
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Yes, of course. Then there's the problem that experimental
measurements agree with what science has recognized, not with what you
propose.
But heck, experimental measurements are just pesky details. Why worry
about them?

It's also not been properly recognized by geographers that there are
in fact four undiscovered continents.

It's also not been properly recognized by biologists that tables and
chairs are alive.

It's also not been properly recognized by mathematicians that there is
no such number as zero, because zero is nothing and therefore can't be
a number which is a something.

PD

BURT

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Nov 20, 2009, 3:44:17 PM11/20/09
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> PD- Hide quoted text -

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Because chemistry's shell form is all wrong they could not determine
the four fundamnetal sizes of the atom.

Mitch Raemsch

PD

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Nov 20, 2009, 3:45:52 PM11/20/09
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Chemistry's shell form is what agrees with experimental data. It's a
little hard to announce that it's all wrong anyway, given that it does
so well with experiment.

PD

BURT

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Nov 20, 2009, 3:48:10 PM11/20/09
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The shell form is sphere. Spheres are universal form in the aether
even light.

Mitch Raemsch

Aleph

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Nov 20, 2009, 4:32:44 PM11/20/09
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In article <c881f1b1-ab5e-46e0-b7da-d9bb06552c85
@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Fri, 20 Nov 2009
12:48:10 -0800 (PST), BURT <macro...@yahoo.com> imparted these words
of wisdom:

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> The shell form is sphere. Spheres are universal form in the aether
> even light.
>

You must be a bot. A clueless bot at that.

socratus

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:40:25 PM11/20/09
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Can such heretical atom exist in the nature ?
Atom : Electron & Proton / new idea /

Pauli wrote in 1924
" Each quantum state in the atom is not limited
of two electrons, but only of one electron"

It means in the atom can be only one single electron
The electron manages the atom
If the atom contains more than one electron
(for example – two) this atom represents “ Siamese twins”
Save us God of having many electrons in one single atom
and one single cell.
=== .
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. Socratus.

BURT

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Nov 20, 2009, 6:00:07 PM11/20/09
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Shells are full of electrons. They are their aether.

Mitch Raemsch

Y.Porat

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Nov 21, 2009, 1:44:49 AM11/21/09
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On Nov 20, 11:29 am, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message

-----------------
Hi Mr Feuerbacher from Heidelberg

i think we had an agreement
that i dont bother you
and you dont bother me
rigth Mr psychopath moron parrot??
that cant control lhis primitive instincts??
2
there are no 2 kinds of charge
there isonly one kind of stupid parrots!!
3
the Proton is not defined only by its electric charge
it has its inner structre of your silly quarkes as well
while in fact those quarks are only
10 percent of the whole story
4
dont you idiot moron crook
teach me physics
you have my book and you should understand better that i am talking
about
5
you are a Nazi pig **thief*** as well !!

Y.P
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Aleph

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Nov 21, 2009, 4:24:26 AM11/21/09
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In article <02e72aad-aef8-456e-9a9b-
4e962c...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Fri,
20 Nov 2009 22:44:49 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y....@gmail.com> imparted
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>

> i think we had an agreement

It seems fairly clear to me that what you *think* is rarely even close
to reality.

> that i dont bother you
> and you dont bother me

What makes you think you bother anyone else? You are a clown and, as a
result, poking fun at you is entertaining.

Keep it up Yogi Pootrat.

jdawe

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Nov 26, 2009, 9:22:13 PM11/26/09
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On Nov 20, 8:42 am, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I believe they are round

+

Linear

-Josh.


BURT

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Nov 26, 2009, 10:54:48 PM11/26/09
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> On Nov 20, 8:42 am, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I believe they are round
>
> +
>


Shells because they are sphere have no slope. And they are immaterial
aether.

Mitch Raemsch

jdawe

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Nov 26, 2009, 11:53:33 PM11/26/09
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The shell ( path ) through aether is not physical.

However, it requires 2 opposing ways of movement to operate:

Circular

or

Linear

In other words:

Circular orbiting\circular spin

+

Linear vertical axis\linear horizontal axis

-Josh.

BURT

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Nov 26, 2009, 11:59:44 PM11/26/09
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Josh the atom is not straight.

Mitch Raemsch

jdawe

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Nov 27, 2009, 12:11:40 AM11/27/09
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> Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

It's:

Circular

+

Linear

All shapes of energy\matter are formed through:

Circular

+

Linear

Want me to say it again?

-Josh.

BURT

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Nov 27, 2009, 12:24:22 AM11/27/09
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> -Josh.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

NO. But shells are not straight in any way they are round all of the
way.

jdawe

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Nov 27, 2009, 12:33:43 AM11/27/09
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> way.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

all of the way around a linear vertical axis and a linear horizontal
axis.

-Josh.

BURT

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Nov 28, 2009, 6:58:37 PM11/28/09
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Electric force is radial flow pushing electrons away from one another
in the aether.

Y.Porat

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Nov 29, 2009, 10:33:56 PM11/29/09
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On Nov 29, 12:53 pm, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> In article <2997d6bd-dbb1-41ee-83db-
> 36f538a82...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Sat,
> 28 Nov 2009 20:31:31 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y.po...@gmail.com> imparted
> these words of wisdom:
>
> > Josef Goebbels could be proud of you
>
> I doubt it, in fact I think we would disagree on pretty much everything.
> You dont realise that though, because you are blinded to reality by the
> mix of  your senility and frothing hatred of everyone who disagrees with
> you.
>
> > you never spoke  a single word of science
>
> Neither have you. Your vague "predictions" are not science.
>
> > it is a fact that
> > anyone can see it
>
> woooo... I am so hurt.
>
> >  fucken homo gangster psychopath
>
> Since when did I become gay, or is this just you letting us know what
> your fantasies are. Is your real name Bernie Maddoff?
>
> > i just wonder who is the idiot gangster who pay your salary    !!
>
> Do you know how many times you have asked this? Do you know how many
> times I have answered?

>
> --
> Aleph
>
> This article was posted to USENET, please reply in that manner. Emails
> to this account will be ignored.

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