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Angelo

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Jul 30, 2012, 4:41:57 PM7/30/12
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Hi all,

Pb 204
Atomic Percent Abundance: 1.4%
Spin: 0+
Half life: =>1.4E+17 years
Mode of decay: Alpha to Hg-200
Q-value from recommended values table: 1971.77 ± 1.35 keV

Pb 206
Atomic Percent Abundance: 24.1%
Spin:0+
Half life: => ? years
Mode of decay: Alpha to Hg-202
Q-value from recommended values table: 1136.56 ± 1.18 keV
Pb 207
Atomic Percent Abundance: 22.1%
Spin:1/2-
Half life: => ? years
Mode of decay: Alpha to Hg-203
Q-value from recommended values table: 391.47 ± 1.32 keV

Pb 208 (doubly magic!!)
Atomic percent abundance: 52.4%
Spin 0+
Half life: => ? years
Mode of decay: Alpha to Hg-204
Q-value from recommended values table: 518.80 ± 1.47 keV

I used these sites:
http://nucleardata.nuclear.lu.se/database/masses/
and
http://atom.kaeri.re.kr/ton/
From the first I found that the various isotopes of Pb,
believed to be stable to alpha decay, are even more apt
(energetically) to expell C-12 or C-14, with respect to
alpha-decay.
What do you think about?

Ciao, Angelo

Angelo

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Jul 30, 2012, 5:32:17 PM7/30/12
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> andhttp://atom.kaeri.re.kr/ton/
> From the first I found that the various isotopes of Pb,
> believed to be stable to alpha decay, are even more apt
> (energetically) to expell C-12 or C-14, with respect to
> alpha-decay.
> What do you think about?

BTW, could you help me to define the lacking half-life?

> Ciao, Angelo

Poutnik

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Jul 31, 2012, 6:26:33 PM7/31/12
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Angelo from patrizio...@libero.it
posted Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:32:17 -0700 (PDT)


>
> On 30 Lug, 22:41, Angelo <patrizio.pan-2...@libero.it> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Pb 204
> > Atomic Percent Abundance: 1.4%
> > Spin: 0+
> > Half life: =>1.4E+17 years
> > Mode of decay: Alpha to Hg-200
> > Q-value from recommended values table: 1971.77 ? 1.35 keV
> >
> > Pb 206
> > Atomic Percent Abundance: 24.1%
> > Spin:0+
> > Half life: => ? years
> > Mode of decay: Alpha to Hg-202
> > Q-value from recommended values table: 1136.56 ? �1.18 keV
> > Pb 207
> > Atomic Percent Abundance: 22.1%
> > Spin:1/2-
> > Half life: => ? years
> > Mode of decay: Alpha to Hg-203
> > Q-value from recommended values table: 391.47 ? �1.32 keV
> >
> > Pb 208 (doubly magic!!)
> > Atomic percent abundance: 52.4%
> > Spin 0+
> > Half life: => ? years
> > Mode of decay: Alpha to Hg-204
> > Q-value from recommended values table: 518.80 ? �1.47 keV
> >
> > I used these sites:http://nucleardata.nuclear.lu.se/database/masses/
> > andhttp://atom.kaeri.re.kr/ton/
> > From the first I found that the various isotopes of Pb,
> > believed to be stable to alpha decay, are even more apt
> > (energetically) to expell C-12 or C-14, with respect to
> > alpha-decay.
> > What do you think about?
>
> BTW, could you help me to define the lacking half-life?
>
It can be either measured,
either predicted by nuclear QM calculations.

It cannot be defined.

It cannot be either calculated from energetical change.
All kernels behind 60Ni has lower and lower binding energy per nucleon.

What matter is energetic barrier
and probability of breaching the barrier.


--
Poutnik

Angelo

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Aug 2, 2012, 1:46:53 PM8/2/12
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On 1 Ago, 00:26, Poutnik <pout...@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> Angelo from patrizio.pan-2...@libero.it
> posted Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:32:17 -0700 (PDT)

>
> > On 30 Lug, 22:41, Angelo <patrizio.pan-2...@libero.it> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
>
> > > Pb 204
> > > Atomic Percent Abundance: 1.4%
> > > Spin: 0+
> > > Half life: =>1.4E+17 years
> > > Mode of decay: Alpha to Hg-200
> > > Q-value from recommended values table: 1971.77 ? 1.35 keV
>
> > > Pb 206
> > > Atomic Percent Abundance: 24.1%
> > > Spin:0+
> > > Half life: => ? years
> > > Mode of decay: Alpha to Hg-202
> > > Q-value from recommended values table: 1136.56 ? 1.18 keV
> > > Pb 207
> > > Atomic Percent Abundance: 22.1%
> > > Spin:1/2-
> > > Half life: => ? years
> > > Mode of decay: Alpha to Hg-203
> > > Q-value from recommended values table: 391.47 ? 1.32 keV
>
> > > Pb 208 (doubly magic!!)
> > > Atomic percent abundance: 52.4%
> > > Spin 0+
> > > Half life: => ? years
> > > Mode of decay: Alpha to Hg-204
> > > Q-value from recommended values table: 518.80 ? 1.47 keV
>
> > > I used these sites:http://nucleardata.nuclear.lu.se/database/masses/
> > > andhttp://atom.kaeri.re.kr/ton/
> > > From the first I found that the various isotopes of Pb,
> > > believed to be stable to alpha decay, are even more apt
> > > (energetically) to expell C-12 or C-14, with respect to
> > > alpha-decay.
> > > What do you think about?
>
> > BTW, could you help me to define the lacking half-life?
>
> It can be either measured,
> either predicted by nuclear QM calculations.
>
> It cannot be defined.

OK, I trust you

> It cannot be either calculated from energetical change.

About this I something knew, thanks.

> All kernels behind 60Ni has lower and lower binding energy per nucleon.

Also for this.

> What matter is energetic barrier
> and probability of breaching the barrier.

OK, but some physicists insist to say that
I cannot speak of a barrier and the consequent
concept of going through that barrier.

> --
> Poutnik

Thanks, Angelo

Poutnik

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Aug 2, 2012, 5:18:45 PM8/2/12
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Angelo from patrizio...@libero.it
posted Thu, 2 Aug 2012 10:46:53 -0700 (PDT)

> > > BTW, could you help me to define the lacking half-life?
> >
> > It can be either measured,
> > either predicted by nuclear QM calculations.
> >
> > It cannot be defined.
>
> OK, I trust you
>
> > It cannot be either calculated from energetical change.
>
> About this I something knew, thanks.
>
> > All kernels behind 60Ni has lower and lower binding energy per nucleon.
>
> Also for this.
>
> > What matter is energetic barrier
> > and probability of breaching the barrier.
>
> OK, but some physicists insist to say that
> I cannot speak of a barrier and the consequent
> concept of going through that barrier.
>
> > --
> > Poutnik
>
> Thanks, Angelo

QM operates with potential barrier and its eventual tunnelling.
But evaluation would require deep knowledge of kernel QM.


--
Poutnik

Y.Porat

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Aug 9, 2012, 11:58:17 AM8/9/12
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--------------------
see the schemes of Pb and Bi
in detail

including the ''map''
of the location of any of possible isotopes
indicated by numbering of neutrons by the figures that gives the isotop its name
pleasenote that that map shwes among the othres
the maximum possible attached neutrons
thatis the highest possible isotope
iow
all the possible locations for neutrons are filled up .

Gogle)

The Y Porat Model - an abstract
towards its end

TIA
Y.Porat
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