Re: Obsticales to scientific progress
Y.Porat
> Obsticals to progress in science, Physics in particular.
>
> 1) Too many people in key positions that control desinemation of
> information, are more interested in who is right, and gets subjective
> credit for it, than what is more objectively right, and progresses
> science. Thank goodness for the internet and Google sci physics.
> ----------------------
absolutly right !!you forgot to add another
peoblem:
science became a BUSINESS !!
a source of living
nmo matter whatit is
just wait and see all the parasite gangsters
parrots
comming on you because you are threatening their business!!
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> 2) Basing too much on established scientific axions, that have proven
> themselfs in past, but are not nessesarily true for all cases, instead
> of going to the very foundation of science, which is looking at
> something as objective and free of preconcieved notions, as possible.
> This means transending the pre-established axioms such as
> "The speed of light is constant and the highest possible speed",
may be constant maybenot
but there are much more serious fucks:
like
aprticles without mass (Higgs Bosons)
3 quarks that their mass is 10percent of the mass of the proton
and therest is GLUEONS .. (:-)
exactly an electron for any proton in a heavy Atoms
'''the HUP prevents us from deciding the inner structure of the nuc
'''
photons without mass !!
etc etc
current physics was taken over by fucken
mathematician that have not the slightest physics touch
so they started loosing the ground of reality
and soaring above solid ground
etc etc
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> frequency along the electromagnetic spectrum is infinite, ect.
>
> 3) Desire to maintain "Uncertainty Priciples", mystery, instead of
> resolving it.
>
> 4) Physisist religious adoration for certain ideas and there authors
religion thats the correct definition
including the gangster priests !
> resulting in religious and artistic atatchments. The attatchment is so
> great, that some look at it as blasphemous and or defiling ones
> religion or artwork.
>
> 5) Non-recognition of natural ability, and too much relyment on title,
> repitation, and degree instead of letting evidence speak for itself
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right ! that is part of the gang system!
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> being its own credentials,
right !! 9a closed gild of interesants
when we can show an analogy between the
> natural ability of artist, is parrallel to the natural ability of
> science. It is well known that artist without formal training, can
> sometimes achieve much grester results, than their rigorously educated
> counterparts. This implies that natural ability, carries just as much
> or more, wieght as rigorious training.
>
> If we address these points head on, a new wave of creativity and
> discovery will be released.
>
> Conrad J Countess
well said Conrad
jsut dont detere from saing it
again and again
untle
THE HIGGS bOSONS WILL BE FOUND
WITH THE PROBABILITY OF
ONE TO 100 BILLION (:-)
and the Higgs is just one example
we have the W Boson the Z Boson
etc etc
and the crooks are selling it to the suckers
to swallow it without blinking an eye !!!
crooks and suckers was all along history
a winning game !!!
2
we cant say that** all* current science is wrong!!
but it is much worse than crooks(and suckers ) are ready to admit !
ATB
Y.Porat
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Aleph
e4fe5f...@s20g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Fri,
18 Dec 2009 09:35:43 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y....@gmail.com> imparted
these words of wisdom:
>
> current physics was taken over by fucken
> mathematician
Damn that Math. Its such a shame it is so important, isnt it? Physics
would be so much more fun if we could just make shit up and not worry
about how it works.
What fool thinks math answers anything, eh? Its not like we can use
algebra to solve anything.
Fight the power, Porat, fight the power.
--
Aleph
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cjcountess
2pi), and unifies special general relativity with quantum theory and
also = (G) as (c^2) is the ultimate (L/T^2) just as (G = L/T^2). Thus
(c^2 = h/2pi = G). They are all energy in circular motion with rest
mass at the quantum level. It is realy just that simple and is
probably why it was missed using such complex mathematics which seems
to have let this equality slip right through it. The Swartzchild
radius of (r=Gm/c^2), which is said to be the radius below which mass
becomes a black hole according to General Relativity and the reduced
Compton wavelength (wavelength/2pi) below which if a particle is
squarshed more particles will be created according to quantum theory
are equal here at the frequency/wavelength of (c^2). They are the
radius of the electron as a circle and diameter of elestron as a
spherical particle which is why squashing it below this has said
effects.
It doesn't matter if you agree or not it is still the case and will be
revealed in time
Conrad J Countess
Y.Porat
> 1) Planck discovered - E=hf originally stated E=hv, for photons
> ---------------------------
just a little example of wrong paradigm:
E=hv .....
and here you have the profe that
photon energy has mass !!!
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> 2) Einstein discovered - E=mc^2 for >electrons/matter
enery= matter and mass
actually - mass in motion as in macrocosm !!
no mass -- no real physics !!!
Y.P
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Y.Porat
> In article <e4e0e079-14dc-4dba-9c04-
> e4fe5fece...@s20g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Fri,
> 18 Dec 2009 09:35:43 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y.po...@gmail.com> imparted
> these words of wisdom:
>
>
>
> > current physics was taken over by fucken
> > mathematician
>
> Damn that Math. Its such a shame it is so important, isnt it? Physics
> would be so much more fun if we could just make shit up and not worry
> about how it works.
>
> What fool thinks math answers anything, eh? Its not like we can use
> algebra to solve anything.
>
> Fight the power, Porat, fight the power.
>
> --
> Aleph
>
> This article was posted to USENET, please reply in that manner. Emails
> to this account will be ignored.
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mathematics cannot make pioneering science
it can be only an aiding tool
(after that new*physics* ideas were introduced by physics thinkers
not paper thinkers !!)
Y.P
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eric gisse
> On Dec 18, 6:30 pm, cjcountess <cjcount...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 1) Planck discovered - E=hf originally stated E=hv, for photons
>> ---------------------------
> just a little example of wrong paradigm:
>
> E=hv .....
> and here you have the profe that
> photon energy has mass !!!
And thus Porat enters 2010 by failing the same introductory physics course
again for the thousandth straight year.
Dimensions do not dictate physics, chuckles.
Y.Porat
disturbed imbecile MORON !!
people like that psychopath Gisse
are a wonderful example OF obstacles to science progress !!!
that psychopth morron does not know
how a physics formula is built and used
and yet such a little kaker want to teach us physics !!!
they are not only parrots
THEY ARE GANGSTERS AS WELL
just little indiaction:
no one except those gangsters is snipping Ng s
from the above address
Y.Porat
Y.P
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Igor
> On Dec 14, 5:02 pm, cjcountess <cjcount...@yahoo.com> wrote:> Obsticals to progress in science, Physics in particular.
>
> > 1) Too many people in key positions that control desinemation of
> > information, are more interested in who is right, and gets subjective
> > credit for it, than what is more objectively right, and progresses
> > science. Thank goodness for the internet and Google sci physics.
> > ----------------------
>
> absolutly right !!you forgot to add another
> peoblem:
> science became a BUSINESS !!
Sounds like you're confusing process and product, Borat.
Igor
Let me guess. All of this was revealed to you by the Cheshire Cat and
the White Rabbit after you stepped through the looking glass?
Y.Porat
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what is your income from science parroting??
(and mumbling ??)
iow
from what are you doing your living ??.....
ie
what is your day job as well ??
Y.P
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Aleph
7cb3d7...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Fri,
18 Dec 2009 11:18:17 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y....@gmail.com> imparted
these words of wisdom:
>
>
> ----------------
> mathematics cannot make pioneering science
> it can be only an aiding tool
> (after that new*physics* ideas were introduced by physics thinkers
> not paper thinkers !!)
>
Are you some kind of retard?
Aleph
@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Sat, 19 Dec 2009
08:44:33 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y....@gmail.com> imparted these words
of wisdom:
>
> what is your income from science parroting??
> (and mumbling ??)
> iow
> from what are you doing your living ??.....
> ie
> what is your day job as well ??
What a retort! You were wrong, you were called on it and rather than
defend your nonsense or say sorry, you come up with that!
Fight the power Poohrat, fight the power.
Inertial
news:cd10333f-ae80-4da1...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 18, 6:30 pm, cjcountess <cjcount...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 1) Planck discovered - E=hf originally stated E=hv, for photons
>> ---------------------------
> just a little example of wrong paradigm:
>
> E=hv .....
Yeup
> and here you have the profe that
> photon energy has mass !!!
No .. it does show the energy of a photon is completely proportional to the
frequency of light(and so frame dependent). Which would imply that there is
no amount of the energy that come from a non-zero mass. Also, a non-zero
mass cannot be accelerated to a speed of c with a finit amount of energy.
This has been explained to you countless times, and you still persist with
your lies.
> ------------------
>> 2) Einstein discovered - E=mc^2 for >electrons/matter
>
> enery= matter and mass
> actually - mass in motion as in macrocosm !!
E = mc^2 is the rest energy of some mass (ie when it is NOT in motion). So
you claim that energy is only mass in motion is flawed.
> no mass -- no real physics !!!
There is more to physics than just mass.
Y.Porat
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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By Feuerbacher Nazi psychopath
imbecile moron parrot
Y.P
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Y.Porat
> In article <6f1d20b7-9a78-4695-b403-99b06fb49d23
> @j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Sat, 19 Dec 2009
> 03:53:01 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y.po...@gmail.com> imparted these words
> of wisdom:
>
>
>
> > just little indiaction:
> > no one except those gangsters is snipping Ng s
> > from the above address
>
>
> If so, you have managed to appear even more clueless than I thought.
> Wow.
>
> --
> Aleph
>
> This article was posted to USENET, please reply in that manner. Emails
> to this account will be ignored.
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Bye Aleph (Igor ) bolshevic psychopath
gangster
Y.P
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Inertial
You still lie about who I am .. you're clearly an idiot.
Y.Porat
> In article <64bda67c-fbdd-4e36-b551-0ea26a61c580
> @a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Sat, 19 Dec 2009
> of wisdom:
>
>
>
> > ------------------
> > what is your income from science parroting??
> > (and mumbling ??)
> > iow
> > from what are you doing your living ??.....
> > ie
> > what is your day job as well ??
>
> What a retort! You were wrong, you were called on it and rather than
> defend your nonsense or say sorry, you come up with that!
>
> Fight the power Poohrat, fight the power.
>
> --
> Aleph
>
> This article was posted to USENET, please reply in that manner. Emails
> to this account will be ignored.
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just let anyone here know
what is you ray job ???
(i was working 40 productive years
before retiring ...
and you ???)
Y.P
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Igor
You forgot to ask whether I've stopped beating my wife, Borat.
Y.Porat
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who knows ?? (:-)
considering your honesty and integrity
(of a Bolshevik )
it might well be (:-)
there is another possibility
ie
that *she is beating you* (:-)
therefore you come here to spill your frustration here ??? (:-)
if you believe in Higgs Bosons
anything can be believed .....(:-)
Y.P
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I was reading about St Anthony, the first monk. He had power over
politicians because he had no part of their world. Once they get their
hook, their subisdy, into you, you are finished.
Most of what we call religious extremism or oppresion came about that way.
Read Paul Johnson's Modern TImes on EInstein. Newton and Darwin have also
been abused. See Hofstadter's Social Darwinism book.
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> Science, religion and economics suffer when they depend on politicians.
>
> I was reading about St Anthony, the first monk.
>
Never heard of him. What's a "saint"?
> He had power over
> politicians because he had no part of their world. Once they get their
> hook, their subisdy, into you, you are finished.
> Most of what we call religious extremism or oppresion came about that way.
Did it really? Amazing.
> Read Paul Johnson's Modern TImes on EInstein.
Who is Paul Johnson and what does he know that I don't?
> Newton and Darwin have also
> been abused. See Hofstadter's Social Darwinism book.
Who is Hofstadter and what does he know that I don't?
Igor
Nobody believes in the Higgs Boson, dumbass. It's a prediction based
on a scientific hypothesis. They apparently still have yet to teach
scientific method to your elementary school class. Let us know when
you graduate from the sixth grade. Then you'll be as smart as Jethro
Bodine. But alas, not yet.
Igor
Congratulations for taking this thread, making a quick right turn, and
driving it into brick wall.
Autymn D. C.
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cd10333f-ae80-4da1...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 18, 6:30 pm, cjcountess <cjcount...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> 1) Planck discovered - E=hf originally stated E=hv, for photons
> >> ---------------------------
> > just a little example of wrong paradigm:
>
> > E=hv .....
>
> Yeup
>
> > and here you have the profe that
> > photon energy has mass !!!
>
> No .. it does show the energy of a photon is completely proportional to the
> frequency of light(and so frame dependent). Which would imply that there is
> no amount of the energy that come from a non-zero mass. Also, a non-zero
> mass cannot be accelerated to a speed of c with a finit amount of energy.
Cough, I already proved a mass can reach celerity within one lambda.
-Aut
Autymn D. C.
> On Dec 14, 5:02 pm, cjcountess <cjcount...@yahoo.com> wrote:> Obsticals to progress in science, Physics in particular.
> > themselfs in past, but are not nessesarily true for all cases, instead
> > of going to the very foundation of science, which is looking at
> > something as objective and free of preconcieved notions, as possible.
> > This means transending the pre-established axioms such as
> > "The speed of light is constant and the highest possible speed",
>
> may be constant maybenot
Of course not: Huygens, Chèrèncov.
> but there are much more serious fucks:
> like
> aprticles without mass (Higgs Bosons)
> 3 quarks that their mass is 10percent of the mass of the proton
> and therest is GLUEONS .. (:-)
Quarks are always in compounds; when one quark drifts froward the
others--that is, grows--it loses mass until its field--which is now
full of virtval quark compounds and weihty--breaks off into further
hadròns. When a hadròn is at ground, its quarks are at their
weihtiest. I think I got thet wriht...
> exactly an electron for any proton in a heavy Atoms
> '''the HUP prevents us from deciding the inner structure of the nuc
> '''
> photons without mass !!
> etc etc
> current physics was taken over by fucken
> mathematician that have not the slightest physics touch
> so they started loosing the ground of reality
> and soaring above solid ground
> etc etc
money without mass!!
time without mass!!
room without mass!!
charge without mass!!
color without mass!!
fasis without mass!!
freedom without mass!!
dumbshit
-Aut
cjcountess
This is such a SIMPLE, yet PROFOUND Discovery, it must be told
A new REVOLUTION in physics, revolves around THIS
(E=mc^2 = E=mc^circled) and (c= sqrt-1)
By CONRAD J COUNTESS
Quantum Gravity in 3 STEPS
1) c in linear direction
2) x c in 90 degree angular direction
3) = 90 degree arc which if constant creates a circle and balence of
centripital and centrifugal forces = c in circular motion, with
wavelength = (cx2pi) with angular momentum (h/2pi) and rest mass = to
G.
After this simple geometrical discovery, everything just falls into
place naturaly. c^2 as the ultimate L/T^2 = G which also = L/T^2. And
so c^2 = h/2pi = G and c = h = r or radius of circle = sqrt-1 = 2pi in
this special case.
All constants of nature, that I examined so far, can be directly
related to c. This seems to be a law of nature, which too, may have
profound effects.
I am so completely in awe.
I do not have to fabricate anything, the idea has a momentum of its
own. The style of my writing at time may be not just to develop the
idea but also to sell it. But it seems to me to be selling itself
starting with me. If I believe it to be true it radiates confidence,
if I believe it to be beautiful it adiates adoration, if sound it
radiates paitience. If all the above is true than it radiates wisdom.
If this appears to be circular reasoning than the point of all my
reasoning is to be circular as a self explanitory process. To connect
the cause and effect with the objective itself. To make it so clear
that it speks for itself and I can get out of the way.
In this way the argument will attain rest mass, having stibility in
motion and the gravitational attraction to attract you and be
attracted to you and to reasonate with what you know to be.
When it attains rest mass, I can get out of the way, let the truth
speak for itself, and rest my case.
The truth has its own beauty, confidence, and wisdom.
This project has put me in a state of "Zen". It to me, is so
wonderful. I am simply expressing an idea as ancient as that of Zen,
that matter is just a form of high vibrational formless primordial
energy, irculating at the speed of light in circular and or spherical
motion. E=mc^2 and m=Ec^2 as the universe expands and contracts coming
into and out of form.
Conrad J Countess
Autymn D. C.
> Go tell it on the Mountain - Go Tell it on the Internet
> This is such a SIMPLE, yet PROFOUND Discovery, it must be told
> A new REVOLUTION in physics, revolves around THIS
> (E=mc^2 = E=mc^circled) and (c= sqrt-1)
You are full of shit and no one believes you.
Inertial
news:4385fb19-d268-4fe8...@u25g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
Your sentence is nonsense as it stands, as you've neither defined a value of
celerity, nor to what lambda refers.
If you mean you have proven a particle with mass can achieve a speed of c,
then I'd like to see how. If you mean instead that it can achieve a speed
as close to 'c' as you want, then thats fine .. all you need is enough
energy.
Y.Porat
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so what happened?
suddenly you dont beleive in the Higgs ??
i just wonder what will you say
while Higgs will be found in the
LHC
what and how big - will be the trumpet that you will blow then !!
may e i am a moron
but CERTAINLY YOU ARE
A FUCKEN shameless BOLSHEVIC PIG !!!
Y.P
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Autymn D. C.
> "Autymn D. C." <lysde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in messagenews:4385fb19-d268-4fe8...@u25g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 19, 10:27 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:cd10333f-ae80-4da1...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> >> > On Dec 18, 6:30 pm, cjcountess <cjcount...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> 1) Planck discovered - E=hf originally stated E=hv, for photons
> >> >> ---------------------------
> >> > just a little example of wrong paradigm:
>
> >> > E=hv .....
>
> >> Yeup
>
> >> > and here you have the profe that
> >> > photon energy has mass !!!
>
> >> No .. it does show the energy of a photon is completely proportional to
> >> the
> >> frequency of light(and so frame dependent). Which would imply that there
> >> is
> >> no amount of the energy that come from a non-zero mass. Also, a non-zero
> >> mass cannot be accelerated to a speed of c with a finit amount of energy.
>
> > Cough, I already proved a mass can reach celerity within one lambda.
>
> Your sentence is nonsense as it stands, as you've neither defined a value of
> celerity, nor to what lambda refers.
Those are standard terms.
> If you mean you have proven a particle with mass can achieve a speed of c,
> then I'd like to see how. If you mean instead that it can achieve a speed
> as close to 'c' as you want, then thats fine .. all you need is enough
> energy.
The proof is in a link in my "gimme money" thread; sith then, I learnd
the Planck units are a limiting condition, and any ol wavespan would
work; a convenient wavespan is of your ranging probe's peak--microwave
or infrared, and therefore a mote's coherent width would be greater
and its packet longer matches its signal speed.
-Aut
Inertial
No, they aren't
>> If you mean you have proven a particle with mass can achieve a speed of
>> c,
>> then I'd like to see how. If you mean instead that it can achieve a
>> speed
>> as close to 'c' as you want, then thats fine .. all you need is enough
>> energy.
>
> The proof is in a link in my "gimme money" thread;
As if I'd read a thread with that title .. ha!
Autymn D. C.
> "Autymn D. C." <lysde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in messagenews:aa6cda93-82e4-48f0...@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
How would you know? Here're more foreign terms for you: sigma,
hilfensvariable, freedom, O(x), attractor, plasmòn, evanescent, fibre
bundle, residue, hýpergheometric, conformal.
> >> If you mean you have proven a particle with mass can achieve a speed of
> >> c,
> >> then I'd like to see how. If you mean instead that it can achieve a
> >> speed
> >> as close to 'c' as you want, then thats fine .. all you need is enough
> >> energy.
>
> > The proof is in a link in my "gimme money" thread;
>
> As if I'd read a thread with that title .. ha!
Troll, leave.
Aleph
@g26g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Sun, 20 Dec 2009
02:33:09 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y....@gmail.com> imparted these words
>
> On Dec 19, 9:05 pm, Aleph <Usenet....@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> > In article <64bda67c-fbdd-4e36-b551-0ea26a61c580
> > @a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Sat, 19 Dec 2009
> > 08:44:33 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y.po...@gmail.com> imparted these words
> > of wisdom:
> >
> >
> >
> > > ------------------
> > > what is your income from science parroting??
> > > (and mumbling ??)
> > > iow
> > > from what are you doing your living ??.....
> > > ie
> > > what is your day job as well ??
> >
> > What a retort! You were wrong, you were called on it and rather than
> > defend your nonsense or say sorry, you come up with that!
> >
> > Fight the power Poohrat, fight the power.
>
> just let anyone here know
> what is you ray job ???
I am a contracted consultant working in various large, multinational,
organisations.
Why do you ask?
> (i was working 40 productive years
> before retiring ...
And now you are senile.
> and you ???)
Well, since leaving school I have worked for 32 years and have been in
tertiary education for six years. I have another 10 - 15 years work left
in me, depending on how interesting I find it.
Do you still want to stalk me?
Aleph
@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Sun, 20 Dec 2009
00:21:24 -0800 (PST), Y.Porat <y.y....@gmail.com> imparted these words
of wisdom:
>
> -----------------
> Bye Aleph (Igor ) bolshevic psychopath
> gangster
>
Hey, Tony, why have you started calling me Igor? Is that your boyfriends
name?